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a580f8 No.532864

Brothers, what is the proper way to respond to aggression?

I had a horrible situation today – some gay dude came up to me and started sexually harassing me. First he just said he wanted to bum a cig but when I told him no he said something like "you're kind of cute, let's make out." I told him no and tried to walk away but he kept going in front of me and following. He kept saying weirder and weirder shit, like how he was going to masturbate to me when he got home, how he wanted to follow me to walk, touch me etc.

He eventually walked away but I basically just kept responding with "yeah," "ok," "please leave," and trying to get around him. It was even worse because my wife was there and he was harassing her too, but mostly me. I feel like I should have stood up for myself and done something but I acted like a coward instead. My wife tried to tell me it was ok but I could tell I was completely emasculated in her eyes. I am not strong or tall but I feel like maybe I should have tried to respond with force, or at least have yelled at him or something.

Have I sinned? What would be the proper response to this? What would you do? What would Jesus do? What would a priest do?

60e8ec No.532881


This is pretty pathetic honestly. You essentially got sexually harassed in front of your woman and now it’ll always haunt her.

Jesus doesn’t want you to be a pussy. You had a chance to punch a sodomite with no repercussion and you blew it.

e4b629 No.532887


Welcome to what it's like being a woman.

8f3d15 No.532888


In a loud and firm voice you should have told him to go.

a24516 No.532889

Matthew 5:39 "But I say to you, offer no resistance to one who is evil. When someone strikes you on [your] right cheek, turn the other one to him as well."

Deuteronomy 32:35 "Vengeance is mine and recompense, for the time they lose their footing; Because the day of their disaster is at hand and their doom is rushing upon them!"

if you punch him, you might make him angry and you might feel like you got your justice, but he'd expect that. I bet if you turned the other cheek and said you'd pray for him because you felt bad for him, it'd have a greater effect on him to possibly lessen his sins or turn him towards the truth. either way, it's what Christ would do.

say "I forgive you. I love you and I will pray for you because I see how broken you are" or something like that.

don't let our culture's definition of manhood as violence define your actions.

the LORD Himself came as man and was meek. He patiently bore wrongs against Him despite all His strength. to have strength yet refrain from using it is true humility.

God bless you.

9619f5 No.532891

remember sodom? angels flashbanged fags and then God had an AC130 on their ass

e4b629 No.532892


What does that have to do with OP's situation? OP is not God.

e350f0 No.532905

File: 2c7c5d288e68c43⋯.png (46.19 KB, 881x343, 881:343, turning the other cheek.png)


When he harassed her, then you should have gotten violent.




e350f0 No.532907


I vaguely remember Matthew threatening someone. Anyone remember what that was?

e350f0 No.532915

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


Seriously OP, you were fine until your woman was being threatened. Not standing up for her is a sin and you kind of disgust me as a result. Don't do it again.

Also, if you feel illegitimate in her eyes, don't try to "make up" for it, because that seems kind of pathetic honestly.

>"Here honey, I cut down this tree to make up for my moment of emasculation. Do you see me as a man now?"

You don't have to "prove" to her anything—you're the man. You don't have to "show" her you're manly, just as a rock would not attempt to "prove" to you it's a rock. It is a rock, and whether or not you can see that doesn't matter. Do you see what I mean?

520f53 No.532951

How much stronger did he appear to be than you?

Do you think if you told him to fuck off it would have become violent?

e53477 No.532964

File: ac8651a56bfb97e⋯.jpg (16.85 KB, 268x284, 67:71, 1468902532879.jpg)

OP, you probably made the right decision. Words can cause pain but they cannot harm.


>angels flashbanged fags and then God had an AC130 on their ass

10/10 post, but >>532892 has a point.

5433a0 No.532969


Sometimes criminals will test you with words before attacking.

271f8a No.532973


You should have put his eyes out with your fingers

06c4ea No.532975

Are Catholics allowed to tell people off/stand up for themselves?

b23add No.532980



I'm in tears anon.

864427 No.532986

File: 34f0d9970389d13⋯.jpg (52.89 KB, 800x430, 80:43, Anderson-Cooper-Surprised-….jpg)

AC130 v. AC360, who would win?

ca8c6f No.533029

File: 54d96652ebbe392⋯.jpg (62.5 KB, 540x405, 4:3, 1336399106163.jpg)

When unexpected things happen then its really easy to lock up out of fear so don't blame yourself too much. When someone gets up in your face then just shove him or tell them off, it's all about drawing a line in the sand with sodomites/punks who are looking for a fight. If they then start to get violent then a few bruises never killed anyone.

This is why every man worth his salt should lift and not be weak, so that they won't be powerless when they are needed.

dd1bae No.533039

File: 6daeec2103391fc⋯.jpeg (76.02 KB, 1024x576, 16:9, 0AB33E69-B745-4D08-A142-3….jpeg)


All of the responses to you have been terrible. Dude, you were attacked by a demon. The homo knew exactly what he was doing. He practices this stuff and does it to many people. He targeted you for the purpose of humiliating you in front of your wife. Your behavior was commendable and you have nothing to be ashamed of. Fantasies of a violent and righteous reaction can be fun but are unhealthy for your soul. Aside from praying for the afflicted soul the only other thing that you should do is examine your sense of situational awareness. Did you lead your wife into a situation where she was physically at risk? That is all that matters.

dd1bae No.533041


>escalate the situation to violence

Because it’s a good idea to get in a fistfight with an HIV positive, coked up, mentally ill criminal who is carrying a couple of razor blades on their person.

be6477 No.533043


Top lol brother.

b23add No.533044


The best thing OP should have done was be assertive, tell the faggot to fuck off and to take a bladed stance and shove that faggot away when he started to harasses his wife.

e0eacc No.533076


A lot of them bait you into doing your worst towards them, later to tweet about being persecuted by mean homophobes and linking their gofundme. Be glad that you didn't fall for their trap as they'll claim that it's an unprompted attack while denying any wrongdoing.

The community thinks that sexual harassment is normal because they think that's how flirting works. Instead of asking about platonic interests like heterosexual relationships, they outright ask you to suck their dick in public. No tact, standards, or build up whatsoever.

546bf3 No.533100

Tough situation, op. You really don't want to get physical with a faggot. That's one way to catch GRIDS.

ded89a No.533111


1) Cast out his demons

2) Stomp his head

3) Be rude

4) Be a polite door mat

No one will respect you for doing 4. No one. It is a mistake that has cursed many men.

t.washed up and bitter after a lifetime of doing 4

254ca9 No.533156



I agree. Its good that you turned the other cheek to a degree, but when your wife and children are also at risk then you need to take a stronger stand against the sodomites.

Please remember that everytime someone is harassed by sodomites in the Bible it results in somebody being raped. First they tried to rape Lot and his family, and in the second instance they wanted to rape a man but he threw his girlfriend out and they raped her so brutally all night that she was found dead in the morning. So the man chopped up her body and sent pieces of it all over the country to show what the sodomites had done. Then a big rebellion removed the sodomites out of the land.

254ca9 No.533182


They should be removed out of the land. Even their blood is toxic to the point where its too filthy to spill.

3411a7 No.533183


You should have punched that faggot in the face.

>I am not strong

Lift, brah! Your body is a temple. >>>/fit/

>Have I sinned?

I don't think so, but you embarrassed yourself in front of your wife. To make this right, I would recommend being more masculine, dominant and assertive with your wife in the near future, at least until she forgets about this.

546bf3 No.533195


Agree fully. We should not be forced to live in "societies" where what happened to op didn't end with this sodomite being lawfully put to death.

84d319 No.533298

OP if you'd hit the guy you'd be in the national news for attempting to murder a peaceful homosexual, and sitting in jail right now, awaiting prosecution for committing a hatecrime gaybashing. Your wife's testimony would have been thrown out of court and you'd spend years in prison, and your family would be flooded with death threats for the rest of their lives, and their businesses would be ruined. You made the right decision.

e4b629 No.533308


You do know you can move, right? Society isn't going to change, but nothing is forcing you to stay here.

ec47a4 No.533312


Society will change or God will destroy it.

546bf3 No.533323


>You do know you can move, right?

Move where? Some other, worse, godless hellhole?

Society has changed a ton, even in the last few years. Thanks kikes

e4b629 No.533324


How's that workin' out for ya so far?


>everything is the Jew's fault, not my own!

That's just sad. If you think society can change then go out and change it. Stop sitting on 8chan, whining about Jews.

ec47a4 No.533338


Well I saw 500 degenerates gunned down last night in Sodom, so its going pretty well

546bf3 No.533339


Every single thing about society that I despise–and all of it goes against Christian values–was spearheaded by Christ-killing kikes. Every. Single. Thing.

That said, I take responsibility for my own life, while despising this Judaized society. My issues with society itself have nothing to do with my own level of contentment in life.

Keep shilling for the murderers of God himself, though. It feels good now, but I'm sure Christ Himself won't be too please.


546bf3 No.533340



271f8a No.533344


>Christ killers

Actually it was the romans who killed him, just saying.

No one's denying that the jews are amoral anti-Christs, but stop with the "Christ killers" meme

ec47a4 No.533347



22 Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified.

23 And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.

24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.

25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.

546bf3 No.533348


His blood be on us, and on our children.

281172 No.533358


>even the pagan Romans who were executing the Messiah would confess His innocence, but not the Pharisees

really makes you think

9619f5 No.533360


get good reddit seriously

e4b629 No.533400


But not our grandchildren, so the blood libel is long, long over.

281172 No.533402


Since the quote doesn't end in "Hey Hershel those little ones proclaiming their faith in Christ look delicious!" that's not the so-called blood libel. Please keep posting your goofy errors for our amusement though.

546bf3 No.533411


>But not our grandchildren, so the blood libel is long, long over.



So much said in one word, Chaim.

546bf3 No.533412


>But not our grandchildren, so the blood libel is long, long over.



So much said in one word, Chaim.

17788c No.533449


You're of your father the devil.

8f3d15 No.533473


I don't like Jews but I believe Pope Pius II condemned the idea that all Jews are responsible for Christ's death.

e350f0 No.533543


An actual rabbi literally said that.

17788c No.533553


Your "pope" is a false prophet

40856a No.533566

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79ba76 No.533579




2b6c79 No.533639

File: 83ca2048be9dd05⋯.jpg (25.78 KB, 624x294, 104:49, jews and papists.jpg)


Sounds about right


2de3a1 No.533650

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

546bf3 No.533651


>Jews and papists

Too bad so many protties today hate the latter so much that they side with, and repeat the lies of, the former. It might just be me, but I find philosemitism to be a much worse thing than any dislike for the Catholic Church, though.

3a71e2 No.535529

If any man here still gets hung up on being "nice" or a polite doormat, realize that is not kindness at all but harmlessness. It is NOT good to be harmless.

Shit sucks OP and you were caught offguard. The answer is as others have said: bladed stance in front of wife, assertive and firm in your voice telling the man (forgive Him Father for he knew not what he did) to leave.

But that didnt happen. Ill pray for you OP. I have no idea what to say to your wife Im unmarried and 23.

1803e4 No.535559

File: c9e523b32085ad2⋯.jpg (5.96 MB, 5001x3906, 1667:1302, jesus chases moneychangers.jpg)

>What would Jesus do?

Man up and beat the shit out of them.

3f534f No.535706


Turn the other cheek and tell him he'll go to hell for his hideous sin, and start quoting from the new testament about not being gay, and exactly why you want absolutely no part of him.

4a2927 No.535720



This isn't right. On the right track, but missing the correct cultural context.

"offer no resistance" is a bad translation of the Greek word ἀντιστῆναι. ἀντιστῆναι means to stand in opposition, it derives from military usage. "Do not square off against an evildoer" would be a better translation. "Resist" in English implies all methods, the original Greek implied only foregoing physically forceful resistance.

The three examples that follow show you how, as Christians, we are supposed to resist an evildoer, as opposed to "squaring off against" them:

1)TURN THE OTHER CHEEK: Backhands were the way to dominate a wife or slave. Open-handed slaps were a challenge to an equal. Hitting left-handed was unthinkable, social condemnation would fall on the hitter. So, by turning the other cheek your assailant must either: be ostracized, stop hitting you, or acknowledge you as an equal. You've won.

2) GIVE HIM YOUR CLOAK TOO- This was a reference Jews would've understood. Exodus 22:26 reads - If you take your neighbor's cloak as a pledge, return it by sunset, because that cloak is the only covering your neighbor has. What else can they sleep in? When they cry out to me, I will hear, for I am compassionate. It was to shame the creditor who was demanding your clothes by reminding him and anyone watching that God will hear your cries.

3) GO THE EXTRA MILE - This is a reference to the Roman law of impressment. A Roman soldier traveling in a subdued country could demand any civilian carry his pack for one mile. If, however, he made them carry it further than one mile, he could be beaten severely for it. Thus, by attempting to go the 2nd mile, the soldier is placed in the comical position of having to beg you to put it down lest his commanding officer see and get the wrong idea.

Christ doesn't want us to be doormats, he wants us to prevail against evil. Don't fight evil on its own terms - that's the message.

66af35 No.536288


>What would a priest do?

Met up with him later, obviously

66af35 No.536290


I thought Jesus killed Jesus.

God is the almighty, His plan guides both the sacred and the sinner.

1a7881 No.536354

First you call 911, it does not matter when they come, if at all, you are raising the alarm and telling you your own version.

You don't escalate because even if you have done some martial arts, if you are not angry and hateful like the other guy chances are you lose.

But you don't ever let the guy near, you raise a hand towards him and say stop, and prepare to hit eyes or throat if he does not stop. Go see some youtube on anti aggression.

You may have f.d up with wife, but OTOH women after a certain age appreciate males that cannot be provoked easily.

> But deliver us from the evil one, amen.

6e662a No.536379


2263 The legitimate defense of persons and societies is not an exception to the prohibition against the murder of the innocent that constitutes intentional killing. "The act of self-defense can have a double effect: the preservation of one's own life; and the killing of the aggressor. . . . The one is intended, the other is not."65

2264 Love toward oneself remains a fundamental principle of morality. Therefore it is legitimate to insist on respect for one's own right to life. Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow:

If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful. . . . Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one's own life than of another's.66

2265 Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for one who is responsible for the lives of others. The defense of the common good requires that an unjust aggressor be rendered unable to cause harm. For this reason, those who legitimately hold authority also have the right to use arms to repel aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their responsibility.

2266 The efforts of the state to curb the spread of behavior harmful to people's rights and to the basic rules of civil society correspond to the requirement of safeguarding the common good. Legitimate public authority has the right and duty to inflict punishment proportionate to the gravity of the offense. Punishment has the primary aim of redressing the disorder introduced by the offense. When it is willingly accepted by the guilty party, it assumes the value of expiation. Punishment then, in addition to defending public order and protecting people's safety, has a medicinal purpose: as far as possible, it must contribute to the correction of the guilty party.67

2267 Assuming that the guilty party's identity and responsibility have been fully determined, the traditional teaching of the Church does not exclude recourse to the death penalty, if this is the only possible way of effectively defending human lives against the unjust aggressor.

If, however, non-lethal means are sufficient to defend and protect people's safety from the aggressor, authority will limit itself to such means, as these are more in keeping with the concrete conditions of the common good and more in conformity to the dignity of the human person.

Today, in fact, as a consequence of the possibilities which the state has for effectively preventing crime, by rendering one who has committed an offense incapable of doing harm - without definitely taking away from him the possibility of redeeming himself - the cases in which the execution of the offender is an absolute necessity "are very rare, if not practically nonexistent."68

t. Catechism of the Holy Catholic Church

3a71e2 No.536509


"Fight smart, not hard" eh?

d26caf No.536513

File: f0f4c7bbb47d356⋯.webm (628.95 KB, 632x718, 316:359, Who can it be now.webm)


You could've reacted here in a mild, violent way to be honest.

You could've repeatedly knee-kicked him in the nuts thus preventing him of using his junk for a few days at least.


Here ya go m8.

4a2927 No.536515


Upon my verification of this stuff (e.g., actually looking up the Roman law of impressment, reading Exodus 22:26, etc.) I couldn't see how that wasn't the most appropriate take. Christ certainly wasn't a doormat when he chased the money changers out of the temple - but why did he attack them?

Because it's not violence versus nonviolence, it's about attacking evil where it's not expecting an attack. The money changers relied on public complacency and civility, so Christ shook it up, evil rulers rely on their strength to subdue good- so don't use a tactic that can be subdued by violence. Always fight evil to win, not out of some masochistic martyr complex (of course, if you lose while trying to win, martyrdom is holy and beautiful, but it's only legit if you were trying to win).

640814 No.536540

File: 30f26cd85cf81d1⋯.jpg (157.98 KB, 1023x815, 1023:815, 30f26cd85cf81d10e5aa4509de….jpg)


>Have I sinned?

Yes, defend yourself next time.

2de3a1 No.536547


Thank you.

4a98c5 No.536638


You should have punched him in the face. Not doing so 100 years ago would have not only been an embarrassment to your church and community but to your family as well. The crusaders were in fact absolved of their sins for fighting against enemies of the church.

59bdfc No.536745


No way this happened…. Biggest lie i've ever heard

f3989c No.536933

You resisted the temptation of striking him, well done. That is turning the other cheek, not many of us have the inner strength, calm or compassion to do that in the face of deliberate provocation.

Dont worry so much about these kinds of trials. Even if you make a mistake and bury your fist in the guy's face you can always ask for forgiveness afterwards as long as you regret it.

God will understand that you were hurt and provoked, that you are not truly at fault.

4a2927 No.536951


Common misunderstanding about turning the other cheek, see:


e4b629 No.536952


God may forgive, but if you "bury your fist in someone's face" for saying words to you, the courts won't be forgiving and you will go to prison for battery.

0edb7d No.537018


Does any catholic/orthodox/protestant church even recognize this?

f3989c No.537041


Nothing wrong with that. I'd accept going to prison for battery or bodily harm. It's a lot easier to live with hurting someone else than the regret of not fighting your own corner.

1d27d3 No.537109


I don't like Jews but I believe Pope Pius II condemned the idea that all Jews are responsible for Christ's death.

They are, so are we. Agnus Dei for the sins of the world.

The problem is they do not acknowledge it, which is a sorry state for a man.

It is very evil to say jews, and muslims on the same boat, do not need conversion, because they need it more than everybody else. One thing is refusing the idea of God like atheists do, another is refusing the idea that God did not sacrifice himself for you.

The fact that the three religions are monotheistic is totally irrelevant. It is not the same god.

Sorry for the derailment.

f3989c No.537114


Of course its the same God, they disagree over the divinity of Jesus and obviously think Mohammed was a prophet. What a bizarre statement.

4a2927 No.537157


If they understood the nature of God, then they would know that Christ was his incarnation. The Jews think God is unknowable- is praying to the unknown the same as praying to a God you have a relationship with?

690116 No.537542



we have a containment board for "you people"

690116 No.537543



messed up the link like a heathen.

5e9a90 No.537546

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>All these people calling for violence against sodomites

What if you cut your hand on his teeth punching him in the face or his saliva somehow got into your eye? You don't know what he might be a carrier of.

Take care of yourselves.

3452bb No.537695


So I just went there and one of the first threads is of a woman complaining that her boss touched her boobs and that makes him a sick rapist. The OP in that thread basically said she got molestered by a guy cuz he touched her tit and now she is a poor victim that is too afraid to go to the police. So in other words it didn't happen.

Even on the chans women are delusional and inferior specimens.

53b252 No.537696



That board is a horrible hellhole full of thirsty beta whiteknights an hysterical tumblr-tier BO they orbit around

Avoid it like sin

e60e25 No.537745


you need to man the fuck up

you obviously give off an impression for a random FAGGOT to approach you in the first place then has the balls to utter "lets make out"


if this continues you can kindly tell them to fuck off

you were probably brought up in some liberal bishopric where the emphasis is "Love Thy Neighbor" bullshit. even the crazy evangelicals have an iota of sense

well guess what its 2017 you need to be hostile when you fulfil your duty as a christian


e60e25 No.537746


I don't even know why we're bothering to reply to you. As far as we're concerned and from what you've posted you're a lost cause

e4b629 No.537749


>well guess what its 2017

[le current year]

9a5584 No.537756

File: 34212771850921c⋯.jpg (145.69 KB, 1023x815, 1023:815, chrisostom.jpg)


You're a faggot. Cowardice is a sin.


ce1c22 No.537757

b9672a No.537759

I'm starting to wonder if half the posters on this thread are behaving more wickedly than the sodomite did.

3e48ff No.537760


Didn't the sodomites literally follow the angels around to try to rape them? That's a pretty high standard of filth, sounds more islamic atm

b9672a No.537761


I was referring to the homosexual OP encountered.

3e48ff No.537766


Personally I think things that happen IRL are more damning than shitposts.

ce1c22 No.537767

File: fd7e83f0d6ee267⋯.jpg (89.7 KB, 338x254, 169:127, 1433889734261.jpg)


>Didn't the sodomites literally follow the angels around to try to rape them?


What verse(s)?

de50e8 No.537770


Genesis 19.4 . But they didn't follow them around, they they rioted at the front of Lot's house and tried to storm it.

b9672a No.537772


I disagree. James 1:26, "If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless."

ce1c22 No.537775


What is disagreeable? Every post other than "You did the right thing", or just the ones encouraging actual violence.

b9672a No.537784


I was referring to the ones verbally abusing OP and encouraging violence without self-restraint.

3452bb No.537800


Yes the Sodomites did try to rape the angels, but I believe that Lot gave them his virgin daughters or a slave girl or something instead.


No we absolutely are not actually. The Sodomite was going around trying to provoke anger from people and emasculate and berate men for his own amusement. We don't do that, the worst person on this board basically said that the Sodomite should have been confronted with violence, which is a pretty respectable position.

3452bb No.537806

File: 2c2580be618450e⋯.png (268.31 KB, 598x452, 299:226, Concealed Carry.png)

By the way, my personal opinion is that OP should have carried a gun in a holster and when something like that happens, you don't need to resort to violence with someone potentially infected with Med resistant AIDS just pull out the gun so they can see it and they will back off. That is what concealed carry is really for.

9a5584 No.537835


Oh come on now mod squad. I've had my shirt ripped open by a homo and had the gall to tell him to cut it out, I don't swing that way, and let him know that I will defend myself. Letting yourself become a victim is indeed a sin, as even the apostles carried swords.

e4b629 No.537849


Concealed carry doesn't work like that. If you pull out your gun when your life is not in danger (and, no, some fag saying "I want to fuck you" is not your life being in danger), then you are violating the "concealed" clause of the permit and you will go to prison for not only violation of that clause, but for brandishing a weapon in public and a host of other charges - depending on the state.

You'll also lose your permit and may not ever be able to get another.

I'm going to say this again and, hopefully, it will be the last time it's needed: You cannot legally, in ANY state in the US, respond to words with physical violence. It does not matter if you are "morally right". What matters is that you are not "legally right". Do not go to prison just because some sodomite provoked you with words.


>had my shirt ripped open

See, that is physical assault and you were well within your legal rights to defend yourself using force.

>even the apostles carried swords

And when one of 'em tried to use it, Jesus said "put that away." Matthew 26:52

9a5584 No.537875


And when they asked them how many to bring with them, He said "two is enough". Don't ignore the context of Jesus knowing He had to be betrayed with the apostles attempting to defend themselves and The Lord, literally and physically.

>No guns

In free states, drawing a weapon to deter a threat, without pointing it at any one person, is not just allowed but is considered part of the escalation of force, especially when outnumbered.

e4b629 No.537886


You didn't read a word I typed, did you …

>In free states

You better check your local laws, son, before you go waving your firearm around at someone who just said words.


One fag outnumbers you?

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