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8c22bc No.587595

Is anyone here a fellow computer science major/software developer?

With the descent of our culture so aided by technology, it feels immoral to participate. What can we do?

3bb5c3 No.587601

well we don't need anymore computer tech, so it's a pointless sector to be in unless you just want an easy payday.

get a physically demanding job, sitting on your butt looking at paper and computer screens all day is for secretaries


9e971c No.587602

>>587595

>With the descent of our culture so aided by technology, it feels immoral to participate.

No


e34454 No.587611

About to graduate.

With every profession there's the option to do bad or do good. I'm not going to go out and make only christian themed games and programs, but I'll do what I can to help people and make an honest buck instead of something harmful like writing viruses. I'm a bit leary about AI though.


3bb5c3 No.587612

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>587611

>I'm a bit leary about AI though.

AI just does what its programmed to do


f6eef8 No.587694

File: 02d1281a9b2c2a6⋯.gif (2.85 MB, 200x234, 100:117, Happy terry.gif)


8f4053 No.587742

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>>587595

I feel quite the sam, even if I don't want to become a computer scientist or a professional developer.

Maybe I have some sort of cognitive dissonance… Being an extreme reactionary, I consider that the industrial revolution was a grave mistake and wish we could go back to a more simplistic yet meaningful life.

I'm also very interested in computers. I'm learning python and I know the basics of C, I don't plan to work in these sectors tho. Maybe I'll go studying law at college (I'm 19 btw).


20ca49 No.587746

>>587595

Don't take jobs for projects that will be used for immoral purposes.

Software is a tool, it's as bad as we choose to use it.


38d6df No.587762

>>587595

One semester remaining for me. My long term goal is to form a right-leaning clique in tech.


8f42df No.587769

>>587595

I'm starting to think we should rename this board to /scrupulosity/


3ff30c No.587771

>>587762

Learn Urbit.


20ca49 No.587805

>>587771

>Learn a meme language

Learn C and Common LISP instead


e34454 No.587816

>>587805

>best language in their respective areas

literally my languages

/christian/ is really the best board


20ca49 No.587841

>>587816

We've already managed to have more technology discussion in one thread than in the entirety of /tech/.


d05485 No.587857

>>587841

/christech/ when?


a7e143 No.587865

>>587805

C programmers are the KJV-onlyists of programming.


cc99ad No.587969

>>587865

What are ASM programmers then?


08385d No.587998

I am but I do things that are VERY back-end - distributed competing/GPGPU work. People ask if I can make a website, I could, but it's really not my area of practice. Making things work properly and reliably is very Christian, near as I can figure.


08385d No.588000

>>587969

Interlinear only


08385d No.588003

>>587805

This but I would accept Haskell and Rust too


69d12d No.588014

Anybody have ideas for a christian themed coding project?


cc99ad No.588019

>>588014

Video game


01b09e No.588041

>>588014

No, but I have an old program that spits out sigils and gematria calculations. I could probably change it into something holy like a prayer generator and redeem it.


20ca49 No.588066

>>587969

Baptists: C

Anglicans: C++

Catholics: Java

Prot: Python

Orthodox: Common LISP

Lutherans: Perl


cc99ad No.588077

>>588066

Holy C?


e34454 No.588082

>>588066

>Orthodox: Common LISP

>Catholics: Java

I didnt know they were that different


a7e143 No.588085

>>588082

So Eastern Catholics = Clojure?


20ca49 No.588088


a11bcc No.588826

Alan Turing was gay.


b4217e No.589070

>>588826

Yeah he was gay, and that is why his work is shilled so much. If you are really bothered by his homosexuality you can use lambda calculus instead of turing machines. Both models of computation can express everything that is computable.


51e8e2 No.589122

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>>588014

anything written in perl


3cbead No.589226

>>588826

Von Neumann was a Catholic who created and executed the stored program concept (through the creation of an EDVAC) before Alan Turing. Turing is shilled because he's a fag, but the world would have gone without him as he wrote out the theory.


3cbead No.589228

>>589226

Neuman also created the IAS machine, which set the foundation for computers today.


a7e143 No.589235

>>589228

Are you sure Von Neumann was Catholic? I could've sworn he was a Hungarian Jew.


a7e143 No.589238

>>589235

Oh, he was a deathbed convert.


53d9eb No.589415

File: cf12cb828536c20⋯.gif (281.09 KB, 490x639, 490:639, JohnvonNeumann-LosAlamos.gif)

>>589235

>>589238

>deathbed convert

Born Jewish, he converted upon marrying his first wife. He began to take the faith seriously when death was near.

http://www.eoht.info/m/page/Neumann+on+god


a85145 No.590278

>>587805

C is good, but Common Lisp will only be useful if you either find a handful of people who are also enthusiastic about it or do it all by yourself, and never intend to grow the number of programmers. Everything decent that gets written in Common Lisp gets eventually ported to another language because you cannot find enough Common Lisp programmers to grow the team. In addition to that, I would not trust a language without static typing with anything important.


c54757 No.590281

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d7370b No.591796

>590281

>Using a quote specifically talking about someone repenting of their sins and turning to god, and even remotely comparing it to those that defend sinful practice.

Unless you are a Pastor Anderson-tier fundie, there is literally no room for dispute with what the Pope said in this quote. If a man who has committed a grave sin but wants to turn to Christ, and as such give up these old ways, then yes, you shouldn't hound on them for that.


d7370b No.591798

>>591796

Was supposed to link to >>590281


d9b60b No.591898

>>587762

Do wall street related programming. Stocks, bonds, etc. I'm in a brokerage in the Midwest, and pretty much everyone who isn't immediately replaceable to the company (traders, comp sci guys) are all right wing Christians.


20ca49 No.592187

>>591898

How would I get into WS programming?


08385d No.592194

>>592187

The best way is a degree in a quantitative science, or CS. The banks and insurers recruit on campus. If not that, any kind of programming experience that shows you can hack verifiable code will do it - embedded systems/real time programming, industrial work. You can also go frontend and that would be a typical webdev path. The great preference is for someone who'll take system ownership, not a brute force javashop. Not to say Java the language is bad, but the culture around it is not great.

If I'm interviewing, my big question is, can this guy produce consistently correct and readable code with reasonable performance? And to do that, I need to know you have an idea what's going on under the hood - the basics of CS, if not the bones.


c06176 No.592422

>>587771

lmao fuck off Curtis


4d0745 No.592438

>>592194

Im currently trying to learn Python as a complement to my applied math degree. What other languages would you suggest?


e5d290 No.592476

I have a CS degree, and have been working as a programmer for over 10 years. I work from home a lot, it's a good fit for my personality.

I struggle with the question posed by the OP. I've worked for content delivery platforms that were mostly playing garbage TV shows and other smut. It's like any other pursuit, you have to be mindful about your effect on the world, and not just your paycheck.


a85145 No.592505

>>592438

Not him, but a fellow mathematician. Python is good if you want to be able to whip up a small script and get something done quick & dirty. A good everyday language, it allows you to go from throwaway scripts to pretty powerful scripts. Just don't try to stretch it beyond what it reasonable.

Since you are a mathematician you should look into one of functional programming languages. Their deal is that functions are first-class objects: you can pass them as arguments to other functions, return new functions as results and compose them. I have been reading "Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs" (SICP), it's a must-read and they use Scheme. The book is free, and there is a very nicely typeset version:

https://sicpebook.wordpress.com/

I should warn you however that Scheme is just an academic toy (more appropriately a scam by MIT to get you to pay tuition), you will never write anything useful in the Real World with pure Scheme. That is why pretty much every Scheme implementation adds their own extensions to actually make it useful, the only problem is that each one does its own thing and in the end each one is a language on its own. If you want a Scheme that is actually useful look for Racket:

http://racket-lang.org/

They have lots of libraries and a good ecosystem. It's a lot like Python it that regard. Two more interesting Schemes are GNU Guile (official extension language of the GNU operating system) and Chibi Scheme (best for embedding in other programs rather than running on its own).

I should also mention Haskell and the ML family. I don't have experience with those, but I know that OCaml is being used in the industry.

https://ocaml.org/

Haskell takes purity (no mutation of data and no side effects) very seriously while OCaml is less anal about it. You can write pure code, but you don't have to jump through hoops if you want to be impure.


1e71e3 No.592540

>>589415

Whew, of all the places you could've linked to. That one's a doozy. The facts don't exactly paint a bright picture because he was an agnostic who just got really scared of death.


a7e143 No.592555

>>592540

I'd be willing to give von Neumann the benefit of the doubt. He's one of the saints of Scientism and apostasy, like in all religious orthodoxy, is unacceptable, so there's an incentive among his peers and the scientism crowd to reduce any belief he had in the supernatural to a footnote at the end of his life.


08385d No.593571

>>592438

Python is widely used but it doesn't teach you to code well. You'll eventually need to learn C++, but there's no need to jump there. Python is good to be productive quickly in programming and gain familiarity - and there's a good market for it. OCaml, Scheme, and Haskell are the kinds of languages that teach you the fundamentals. You can learn the fundamentals in C++ but the jump straight to it is ill-advised - C++ isn't fun till you've programmed for a few years. I know people who are die-hard about Ruby, but I don't speak it myself. The syllabus for this course looks promising, though it'll take a bit of time to get used to. Try to find someone to ask for help when you need it.

https://www.edx.org/course/cs50s-introduction-computer-science-harvardx-cs50x


cc7c79 No.595844

>>587595

>>587601

Subvert technology and the technology sectors to bring it back to the glory of God. The SJWs and Marxists subverted the technology sector long ago as evidenced in the SJW faggot games that are out there. Also be aware of how the spying and monitoring in our software (Windows telemetry for example) and hardware (backdoors left intentionally in our hardware) can be used to persecute Christians after the SJWs take office or other positions of power.

If you're going into the technology/IT sectors, use your gifts to protect the privacy of Christians, so they can preach the word of God without persecution/monitoring by the SJWs in power and anyone else who wants to destroy Christianity. However, since the industry is so cucked and so many evil people are in power of those sectors, you will face a very hard uphill battle.

If you are going to do it still, practice living without technology so you won't become over reliant on it. Something like >>587601 says. Keep your independence.




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