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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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12cf3c No.648604

I thought this guy was a meme?

I've been watching his sermons for a while now and he makes a lot of sense to me. Everything he preach is straight from the bible and it disprove all denominational work based salvation. After wathing him it makes sense only faith based salvation is real, and OSAS.

8a32ce No.648607

He's a closeted homosexual


002783 No.648611

>>648604

>I bombarded myself with a single source

>Now I'm buying into it

Cults do that, friend.


0be834 No.648617

>>648611

>I bombarded myself with a single source

>Now I'm buying into it

This. Learn more and in depth about pretty much any subject he talks about, and you will quickly realise why he is a meme.


dd1b2c No.648618

Can someone post his bee yourself advice here?


f5287b No.648624

>>648617

>>648611

>implying Andrson is the only one that teaches the doctrine he believes


40b3e8 No.648625

>>648624

No, not just him. His cult followers teach it too.


f5287b No.648632

>>648625

What does he teach that's cult like and not in the Bible? Worshipping people and putting what they say above the Bible like c*Tholics do is a lot more cult like.


8a32ce No.648635

>>648632

"repentance is works salvation"


002783 No.648636

>>648632

The fact that you can't type out the word "Catholics" is evidence that you literally have no argument.


6b4209 No.648641

>>648632

You claim cathodox put man above Christ but you put your context of the Bible above the context of Jesus and the apostles.

How disgusting and arrogant. Swaping what Christ and his apostles meant by your own interpretation is literally satanic.

Re-evaluate your faith.


11fc63 No.648652

>>648607

This 100%


12cf3c No.648698

File: 62f46c6378ac6df⋯.jpg (25.17 KB, 600x512, 75:64, nick-young-confused-face-3….jpg)

>>648635

He never said that, nor did the bible. Repentence from sin is works, and implies that you can and must stop sinning to be saved, which the bible said time and time again that you can never be without sin. BUT we should strive for good works, even if it has no role in salvation


0f8c82 No.648706

File: 6292333eb80ee1f⋯.jpg (57.66 KB, 587x618, 587:618, 6292333eb80ee1f63181127ea0….jpg)

I think he is a little naive. Such as the 6000 year old earth thing, or universe, whatever. The bible ultimately does not concern it's self at all with the details of the subject, nor as a whole. It's not important, and that should be the final word. When a subject no longer comes under the scrutiny of the bible, I really find that god would not mind it. at all. You would think he might give a little divine revelation on it if it weren't the case. Btw, fyi, tbh, creating the universe is pretty complex especially if it was created " Ex nihlo ", transmuted from the un-comprehensible to the obvious, and mundane is of course more complex then is found in Genesis, reality check. There is worldly knowledge, and wisdom the bible might have both, but one of these supplies the other.


570649 No.648730

>>648706

…..Zabujard viewer??

REALLY small world


b87992 No.648737


8a32ce No.648738

File: 017bdd05ac8d567⋯.png (53.25 KB, 403x448, 403:448, brainlet .png)

>>648698

>Repentence from sin is works, and implies that you can and must stop sinning to be saved


12cf3c No.648742

File: bf0ab7b1ec44d24⋯.png (595.32 KB, 640x550, 64:55, 0mtj2d8dv0k01.png)

>>648738

Cite me a single verse that says "repent from your sin"


7da772 No.648743

>>648742

Acts 3:19


16c3f4 No.648745

>>648743

S-show me Jesus s-saying it

t. Baptist


7da772 No.648746

>>648745

Luke 5:32


7da772 No.648747

>>648745

Also Luke 13:3


16c3f4 No.648748

>>648747

>>648746

Thanks

I was being ironic and preemptively saying it before the andersonites flooded the thread


7da772 No.648749

File: 36f1aff17bb83a1⋯.jpeg (46.43 KB, 526x799, 526:799, sips in latin.jpeg)

>>648748

I know, but I knew someone was going to unironically ask it anyway


28e96e No.648758

>>648607

This is what every faggot says about people they don't like.


a8ad68 No.648760

>>648758

Anderson isn't gay at all. He's very foolish, however.


a74295 No.648820

File: 20fd9c3e68bf0d4⋯.jpg (37.5 KB, 810x540, 3:2, mel bless.jpg)

>>648743

Classic mistake: 19 Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord,

It's not written repent OF YOUR SINS, but to repent. Catholics been driven this so hard in their head their insert words in scripture. Repenting mean a complete change of mind, yea, change your mind that you may work your way in heaven and trust in christ and his sacrifice. Trust in his blood, not your works. Every single time repentance is mentioned in the new testament there is no sins added after. Learn to read my friend.


a74295 No.648821

13:3 I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.

5:32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance


7da772 No.648825

File: 068167c9fb62f2f⋯.jpeg (154.98 KB, 960x640, 3:2, 1442407877747.jpeg)

>>648820

>Trust in his blood, not your works.

>it's not repenting from your sins, it's repenting from your good works

For once, I am completely speechless. I thought I heard it all when it came to misinterpretation of the bible, but this one hits a whole new low. God have mercy on us all.


a74295 No.648835

>>648825

Stop thinking that your works has any merits in salvation, realise you are a sinner deserving of hell and that only Christ can save you, put all your faith and trust in him as your savior, and this faith will be counted as righteousness. Read romans


7da772 No.648839

>>648820

>Every single time repentance is mentioned in the new testament there is no sins added after.

Wow that's so #True I never realized that! Wow really makes me- o wait

>Luke 24:46: He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, 47 and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.


a74295 No.648848

>>648825

I don't have time right now but I can post every verse that I know that confirms what I am saying later if you want


a74295 No.648853

>>648839

Yes, repentance for the forgiveness of sins, which is what the gospel is about: have faith in Christ Jesus and your sins shall not be imputed. You read it all wrong. Get saved my friend


7da772 No.648866

>>648853

Repentence and belief are two different things, and both are necessary for salvation.

>Mark 1:15: “The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!”

>Acts 8:22 : Repent, therefore, of this wickedness of yours, and pray to the Lord that, if possible, the intent of your heart may be forgiven you.

>Revelation 2:5 : Therefore, keep in mind how far you have fallen. Repent and perform the deeds you did at first. But if you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.


a8ad68 No.648901

>>648835

faith without works is dead


a8ad68 No.648903

Scripture: Faith without works is dead

Catholic Church: Faith without works is dead

Baptists: woah there, works cannot merit u anything, u gotta be saved, works aren't worth anything!

Catholic Church: wut


a74295 No.648913

>>648866

If one verse go agaisnt hundred of others, maybe you don't understand that one verse well.

https://youtu.be/sCkANfg9SgU


36390a No.648916

>>648866

God repented more times throughout the Bible than men did. God never sins. Ergo, repentance does not necessarily involve repenting from sins.

Jonah 3:10 explicitly says that turning from their evil way was works.

>And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

Thus, repenting from sins is works. There are other things one could repent from as well, such belief in works salvation, and this would be what the New Testament is constantly referring to. If you cannot forsake works salvation, then you have not repented of the work of your hands.


011875 No.648918

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>648604

>OSAS, easy believism


8a32ce No.648936

>>648742

>>648820

Hebrews 6:1


a74295 No.649078

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>>648918

>work-based salvation

>basically claiming that Paul went to hell Rom 6:14-20,25

None righteous: Is 64:6; Ps 14:3; Mt 7:21-23; Rom 3:9-12, 19 (2:13),23; Job 9:1, 20-21, etc.

But Christ cleans us of our sins with his blood and bought us: Rev 1:5, 5:9-10; 1Jn 1:7, 2:2, 4:10; 1Pt 1:18-21, 2:24, 3:18-20; Heb 2:9, 17-18, 7:27-28, 9:11-12, 14, 22; Titus 2:14; 1Tim 2:5-6; Col 1:11-14, 20; Eph 1:7; Gal 1:4, 2:20, 3:13; 2Cor 5:14-15, 17-19, 21; 1Cor 9-11 (directly linked to verse 20), 15:3, 21-22; Rom 3:24-25, 5:6-11, 6:2-7, 8:31-35; Mt 1:21, 19:26, 20:28, 26:28; Mk 10:45, Jn 1:29, 3:14 (Nb 21:6-9), 17, 10:11, 11:49-53; Is 53; Ps 34:22, Lev 16:15-15, 17:11.

You can receive this free gift through faith, being made righteous by it: Rom 1:16-17, 3:20-30, 4:2-16, 23-25, 5:1-2, 15-18, 6:7-9, 23, 9:30-33, 10:3-4, 8-10, 13, 11:6; Rev 2:11, 26, 3:6, 20-21, 21:7 (all these see 1Jn 5:1-5); 1Jn 5:10-13; 1Pt 1:3-6, 8-9, 3:21-22 (Col 2:12), Heb 4:2, 10:38-39, 11:7; Titus 3:4-7; 1Tim 1:16; 2Tim 1:9-10, 1Thess 4:14, 2Thess 1:10, 2:12; 1Cor 1:17, 21-25, 3:14-15, 15:1; 2Cor 4:13-14, Gal 2:16, 21, 3:5-14, 21-26, 5:3-6; Eph 1:13-14, 2:8, 3:12, 4:7; Ph 3:9

If you also want some verses that support eternal security, just ask.


7da772 No.649080

>>648913

>show you a dozen verses

>hurr it's just one verse saying it

??????????

>God repented more times throughout the Bible than men did.

Lolwut.


a74295 No.649085

>>649080

God repent about 30 times on the OT


7da772 No.649095

>>649085

Proof?


12cf3c No.649108

>>649095

Genesis 6:6-7, 1 Samuel 15:11, Exodus 32:12-14, 2 Samuel 24:16, 1 Chronicles 21:15, Psalm 106:45, Jeremiah 4:28, 18:8, 26:3, 13, 19, 42:10, Joel 2:13-14, Amos 7:3, 6, Jonah 3:9-10, 4:2


94e5b8 No.649145

>>649078

>work-based salvation

Where in the video?

>all those verses

Ok let's pick a random one. Psalms 34:22 - "The Lord redeemeth the soul of his servants: and none of them that trust in him shall be desolate." Ok, nice proof text (??).


12cf3c No.649168

>>649145

Litterally says that the Lord saves us, and whoever trust in him perish not. You can proceed to every other verses thanks. Obviously you are looking to win the argument rather than be saved. My friend I don't care about this, just take the time to read scripture and realise the falsehood of work/lordship salvation. Do your research, trust in the lord that you may be a new creation in him


94e5b8 No.649293

>>649168

You are saved by faith, not of works. But you will know a tree by its fruits. A saved person will have a change in behavior towards sinning less. That's not "works salvation".


5cb034 No.649301

File: d4ae785cfe55a22⋯.jpg (327.2 KB, 2048x1072, 128:67, holy-spirit.jpg)

>>649168

You can't work your way into Heaven, and you can't faith your way into Heaven either. You need balance, and the Holy Spirit will give you this balance.


05a767 No.649302

File: c5d1c09276ecb86⋯.mp4 (9.18 MB, 960x720, 4:3, Steven Anderson.mp4)

>>648604

I think he might have been molested by a gay man. I am a catholic but i think he is a great guy and listen to alot of his stuff


8a32ce No.649305

>>649301

>Jesus can't save you, you need to do it yourself


f56783 No.649309

>>649293

Totally agree, salvation not being work based is not a reason to "grieve the Holy Spirit of God"


a8ad68 No.649328

>believe in Christ

but u disobey him and do not follow his commandments -> hell

>believe in Christ

and listen to his commandments, and do good works -> heaven

so it's a faith, then good works based salvation.


f56783 No.649329

>>649328

Rom 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

Rom 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Again, Rom 4: For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. (See james 2, you may be justified by work, but not before God)

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.


f56783 No.649330

>>649328

You make up your own soteriology, it is not founded in scripture


a8ad68 No.649331

>>649329

>>649330

So I can just believe in Christ, and disobey Him and all his commandments, and still go to Heaven?


f56783 No.649332

>>649331

11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.

15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Brother, all the letter of Paul are about it, did you even read them? They just repeat again and again how Christ cleans us by his blood and when we are in him no sin is inputed on us. We are baptized in Chrisr by His Holy Spirit at the moment of trust and faith in his sacrifice:

In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

When you are in Christ, you also become co-heirs to his inheritence. Check out ephesians, 1Pt, etc. I wont list every verses but even letters of Peter and John says that through faith in his precious blood we are cleaned and become child of God. Just study scripture


a8ad68 No.649333

>>649332

bro, it's a simple answer

yes or no.

if no, then you agree with

"have faith, and then do good works by obeying Christ and His commandments"

if yes, then you contradict yourself

which is it?


f56783 No.649334

>>649333

Yes and I'm not contradicting myself, or are you saying scripture contradict itself?


a8ad68 No.649335

>>649334

Yes, then I can have faith in Christ, but still choose to disobey Him and break all his commandments?

This is what you are saying yes to?


f56783 No.649336

>>649335

Believe that his sacrifice is enough to pay for your sin and trust in him alone for salvation, not your works. Then yes


a8ad68 No.649337

>>649336

you don't get to change the argument

So you believe I can still go to Heaven by believing in Jesus Christ, but disobeying Him and breaking, tossing into the tiber, every commandment?

I can fornicate, sleep with my brother's wife, I can masturbate, and indulge every night in pornography, I can sleep with a whore, and still make it to Heaven?

Is this what you believe, Satan?


36390a No.649343

>>649335

>Yes, then I can have faith in Christ, but still choose to disobey Him and break all his commandments?

How does this make sense? Jesus Christ told you to believe his word, so if you broke all his commandments then you wouldn't believe him either, because that was something he told you to do. The two conditions contradict.

>Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

>And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.


b66773 No.649613

>>648698

It says "you" cannot stop sinning, which is to say of your own volition but the Holy Spirit can.


688fb5 No.649654

>No Steven Anderson copypasta

I'm surprise, /christian/.


4cd679 No.649659

>>649654

As much of a meme as he is I am surprised as well, but I bet there are some true believers of his on here that might take offense.


26ef03 No.649665

> Everything he preach is straight from the bible

bible never says that the bible is literally God, yet he preaches this directly and loudly.


a8ad68 No.649745

>>649343

>How does this make sense?

Because you're either intentionally or unintentionally butting into the middle of an argument.

This post >>649328 is the argument you're butting into.


edd380 No.649825

>>649745

>butting into the middle of an argument.

Well I'm sorry if you feel you can't defend yourself, you linking that doesn't change a single word that I've said.


9237a5 No.649861

>>648604

>I thought this guy was a meme?

He is. Basically Varg: Protist edition.




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