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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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34ac0d  No.725154

Help, I fear that I have commited Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and have lost my salvation. I feel empty kind of, I prayed and stuff since then. But I don’t know what to think.

fd67e2  No.725162


This is one of those verses that only concerns people who it shouldn’t. The Bible says reprobates don’t even want to retain God in their knowledge, if you are concerned and upset about having lost your means of salvation you’re automatically not a reprobate. Take a cool shower to calm down, say your prayers, and read your Bible. Jesus loves you.

61c085  No.725164

This isn't something you can do accidentally, it's an entire lifetime of rejecting God

ada51d  No.725166

Honestly, I've never understood what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is

c5173a  No.725168


It is the literal, purposeful, clear-minded (ie not possessed or mentally impaired), and open rejection of God without remorse.

59424f  No.725180


Believing that Jesus did miracles in the name of Satan

59424f  No.725181


>lost my salvation

You can't lose salvation, friend. If you believe that you can, then you aren't saved.

2281b4  No.725199

there's the atheist "blasphemy challenge" where edgelords egg each other on to outright deny the Holy Spirit's presence

9b4ce8  No.725203

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


I've heard of that. The trash man did that

when I went looking for this clip, cause I'd heard of it before, I found out Penn Jillete has three cars with the license plates "atheist", "nogod", and "godless"

2281b4  No.725208

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why is it so important for atheists to pronounce their atheism? even the majority of the godless secular people I encounter are just disaffected and agnostic

19ac75  No.725213

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We are all sinners anon. Pray and repent if you are really sorry. God still loves you.

Ephesians 2:8-9

>For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.

70de82  No.725222


"Losing your salvation" is a terrible meme. Someone who has accepted Christ cannot commit blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, and there is no sin that can be committed that will erase or negate salvation.






>Believing that Jesus did miracles in the name of Satan

Not just believing, but knowingly and outwardly denying the works of the Holy Spirit as acts of God and attributing Christ's power to Satan.

It's clearly stated in the Bible. Matt. 12:22-32 says, "Then there was brought to Him a demon-possessed man who was blind and dumb, and He healed him, so that the dumb man spoke and saw. 23And all the multitudes were amazed, and began to say, "This man cannot be the Son of David, can he?" 24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This man casts out demons only by Beelzebub the ruler of the demons." 25 And knowing their thoughts He said to them, "Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste; and any city or house divided against itself shall not stand. 26" And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then shall his kingdom stand? 27 "And if I by Beelzebub cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? Consequently they shall be your judges. 28 "But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. 29 "Or how can anyone enter the strong man's house and carry off his property, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. 30 "He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters. 31 "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32 "And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come."

By simply looking at the context it becomes apparent that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is saying that Jesus did His miracles by the power of the devil. It is not saying bad things, doing bad things, or blaspheming God's name. It is deliberate deception in the context of Christ's presence, claiming that the power of the Holy Spirit is in fact the work of demons.

b1d6b9  No.725223


Thank you, this sounds like the correct interpretation.

b512dc  No.725313

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is never done accidentally. Ever. You hold the same fear that I once held and it is the whisper of the devil that will convince you with scripture that you have committed a sin that cannot be forgiven. The Pharisees blasphemed the Holy Spirit by calling his works of Beezelbub, but if you call the works of the Holy Spirit of the devil in ignorance are you condemned? No, because the Pharisees made this accusation with full intentionality and out of holding onto their own power. They knew what they were seeing, and they consciously and deliberately rejected it for the sake of their own power. Pay attention to the theme of this blasphemy. Intentional rejection. That is what the sin against the Holy Spirit is, because when you intentionally reject it, how can you ever be saved?

And anyone who says "Jesus be cursed" does not do so by the Holy Spirit, but no one can say "Jesus is Lord" in their heart and with their mouth except by the Holy Spirit. Fear not! For whatever work the Father has started in you, he will finish, because when we are unfaithful, he is faithful.

Don't fall into the trap of refusing to forgive yourself because of your sin, either logically or in your heart. Not only are you required to forgive others, but the same applies to you. If you refuse to forgive yourself "the master will throw the wicked servant where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth until he pays back everything he owes."

Refuse to forgive yourself, and the Lord will chasten you heavily if you are his child until you forgive yourself. This is the weapon of the devil, that you believe you cannot be forgiven when the Lord has declared you forgiven. Is your judgement higher than his?

God bless

51abfa  No.725333


I'll just quote part of the footnotes of my Bible, they explain it well:

>"… Now this kind of sin is usually accompanied with so much obstinancy, and such wilful opposing the Spirit of God, and the known truth, that men who are guilty of it, are seldom or never converted: and therefore are never forgiven, because they will not repent. Otherwise there is no sin, which God cannot or will not forgive to such as sincerely repent…"

c26085  No.725340

Go confess Anon, talk about it with priest. I think you just blasphemed in your mind, devil put some thought in your mind. God is merciful and I do think the "rejection of Holy Spirit" is quite a different thing.


Rejection of Logos. Rejection of Christ.

Not some thought that satan puts in your mind to to make you doubt your faith. It's a rejection of the Holy Spirit through whole life. Opposing, hating Truth.

17615e  No.725703


I fear that blasphemous intrusive thoughts might also count as such even though I try to repress them and clean them out. Is this true?

3a8ea7  No.726024

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>tfw brain-washed yourself to constantly chant in your head because you were afraid of thinking something nasty towards Him.

4b8ed2  No.726093

248d87  No.726130


>Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and have lost my salvation

"Go on.jpg"

248d87  No.726139

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61c085  No.726325


Christians are expected to be watchful of their mind and what they allow themselves to entertain. You'll open yourself up to demonic influences otherwise.

22bf26  No.726528


22bf26  No.726530


WTF why doesn't sage worK???

61225f  No.726543

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b55a23  No.726557


>I fear that blasphemous intrusive thoughts might also count as such even though I try to repress them and clean them out. Is this true?

Just breath in and watch them pass on, like birds on a clear sky. Thoughts are like taffy. The more you try to mess with them the sticker they get and the more they spread.

93f0d8  No.731248

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sweet mom jeans tho

32d619  No.731279

You can't lose uour salvation so don't worry if you were actually saved

6480bb  No.731287


>my salvation


That isn't how it works. God provides efficacious means of salvation for all who turn from their sin.

982ebc  No.737334


That sounds batshit insane when you put it like that.

5c3272  No.737374



This is something that worries many who have come to the Way, I know it worried me. But you're quite right, it must involve willful and persistent rejection when confronted with Truth.

ec2529  No.738521

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