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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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f883a7  No.748849

What books are you reading at the moment?

What are you up to?

d08ef9  No.748852

I just started Confessions by st. Augustine.


14d941  No.748873

Going to read Sayings of the Desert Fathers


347274  No.748939

reading the benedict option right now. its boomer pro-israel garbage overall, but it has some wisdom in it and its definitely worth a read.

i think next i'm gonna read By Man Shall His Blood Be Shed: A Catholic Defense of Capital Punishment by edward feser. i don't know anything about it, but it popped up in my amazon recommendeds and it looks interesting, anyone read it?


864968  No.748942

>>748849

Just started "Becoming" by Michelle Obama and am almost done with "Broken Things" by Lauren Oliver.


347274  No.748944

File: bb8aa11550364ec⋯.jpg (68.24 KB, 640x960, 2:3, michael obama.jpg)

>>748942

>"Becoming" by Michelle Obama

is it about her transition to becoming a woman?


476489  No.748945

>>748939

Tried reading it but its bad. I should have known it would be by how much mainstream press it got. I'll have to get the other one thow. Thanks.


ac6194  No.748955

I'm reading through the Divine Comedy, almost done with the Inferno. I tried reading it before, but the translation I read back then was written in a way that put me to sleep every time I tried to read it. I'm reading John Ciardi's translation now and it's much better.

>>748939

I pirated that book and read a little of it. It makes some solid arguments for capital punishment. Ed Feser's stuff is always good.


c9a6de  No.748979

Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike.


44e445  No.748985

>>748942

are you an actual homosexual?


9c8f75  No.748991

>>748985

No, I just don't LARP that I'm reading some "holy lofty marble encrusted super duper" books. OP asked and I gave an honest answer instead of trying to pretend I'm sitting in a monk's hovel reading ancient tomes.


84ac63  No.748992

I'm waiting for my book to arrive.

"Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma" by Ludwig Ott.


347274  No.748995

>>748991

the mom-fiction i can understand if thats what you're into, but really, michelle obama? why on earth would you read that?


75dc9e  No.748996

Bible, psalms


864968  No.748998

>>748995

I like politics. Funny thing is, though, if I said I'd read Trump's book, I'd be met with praise and ass licking. Such is the state of /christian/.


0c16f9  No.749004

Currently reading through Numbers.

After reading the entire NT first its mindblowing all of the parallels between what was said in the OT and what occurred in the NT


347274  No.749007

>>748998

>trump

>anti abortion

>puts conservative judges into the supreme court, one of which is catholic

>obama

>pro abortion

>is literally a muslim

yeah, weird how a christian board would prefer one to the other.


c9a6de  No.749008

>>748998

>I like politics

Doubt

>Funny thing is, though, if I said I'd read Trump's book, I'd be met with praise and ass licking. Such is the state of /christian/.

No, not from me at least. Especially if you mean "Art of the Deal", there really is nothing good about learning such a vulgar trade.


91bcf2  No.749012

Trump makes me laugh sometimes, but I didn't even vote for him.. and not sure the Supreme Court will really change anything. America is broken by design.

I'm just re-reading the scriptures (started around church calendar beginning). I must have read them many times, but never front to back, funnily.


842914  No.749013

>>748939

Anything by Ed Feser is good


00b5a9  No.749017

With Epiphany coming up, I'm re-reading Psalms and Ephesians. Otherwise, just whatever junk book I have laying around.


cc1214  No.749022

Phillipians and Collosians I read almost weekly. They're my favorite epistles. I just finished CS Lewis' The Great Divorce.


347274  No.749026

>>749022

>The Great Divorce.

whats it about?


cc1214  No.749041

>>749026

The Great Divorce is a fictional account of what souls in hell experience in the afterlife.

Specifically, souls from hell are brought to the edge of heaven once a year and are shown its beauty and asked to enter. These souls, still obsessed with themselves, refuse repent and choose to stay in hell.

It's a fairly decent illustration of the brokenness and wickedness of fallen man's soul. The dialogues consist of a person who is in heaven trying to convince an old friend or aquitance, who is in hell, to come to heaven.

I'll leave it at that. It was a good read.


d96169  No.749090

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>>748944

Those shoulders.


145bd8  No.749091

the second book of History of the Christian church by philip schaff, 1 Corinthians and nipping on the Gulag Archipelago.


d96169  No.749093

I honestly don't know *what* to start reading. Can someone give me like a book to start with? Books on the Christian theology, etc.


145bd8  No.749097

>>749093

The Canon Revised is a good start. It addresses the objections by secularists regarding the origins of the New testament.


4d1c0f  No.749099

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8f41c5  No.749100

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Right now. I'm reading his whole chronicle right now. Along with more serious material the priest gave me, Catechism book, a book to help with reading the new testament from Blessed Theophylact.But mainly Mr. Lewis most popular book after i got through his, Mere Christianity book. Pic related from the Magicians Nephew. Really was probably one of the most memorable reads in my recent memory. And just the sheer fact of having a Creation ex nilo event happen. Which i don't see that often in pop culture. Cause everything is just saturated in this Darwinian outlook on life. Or *Insert Kermit the frog, Jordan Peterson voice*,*Order out of Chaos It's order out of Chaos*, Yea it's not. And that's not the biblical worldview. So it was actually nice to see that in some pretty good literature. Overall really good book. But his apologetic's what i'd still recommend out of all his works. C.S Lewis's journey out of Atheism really helped me in the Intellectual department.


82233d  No.749111

File: 04d6abad2641644⋯.jpg (49.53 KB, 546x900, 91:150, 1224x.jpg)

I picked this one up a week ago


84ac63  No.749118

>>749111

Triggered Americans in 3, 2, 1…


d96169  No.749119

>>749097

Thank you, anon.


86b70c  No.749135

>>748849

Any recommendations for a beginner christianity book? An illustrated bible would be great (not drawings but additional notes/texts beside the biblical scripture I mean, sorry if not the right word).

I'd like advice on how to get more into the christian faith, the churches near me or not ones I'm interested in because reasons. Books would be a good way for me to explore on my own.


86b70c  No.749136

>>749135

replying to myself here: Mere Christianity by C.S Lewis looks good


0ba070  No.749137

>>749111

>>749118

>implying all Americans are degenerate leftists

You might as well lump all of Western Europe in there aswell.


2911a9  No.749141

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Reading both of these right now, though I put the former down for a minute because it's just so profound. I need to read fiction with my nonfiction or I start getting burned out. I used to be a much better reader than I am; I blame the internet for stunting my attention span.


36acee  No.749144

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Believe it or not, actually has a section from William Jennings Bryan himself. It'll be coming in tomorrow along with some others, a great way to kick off the new year.


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a192d3  No.749147

File: 4f46d8abfcbb212⋯.jpg (92.24 KB, 467x700, 467:700, 9781585422500.jpg)

I am just interested the in western esoteric traditions apart from Christianity.


c9a6de  No.749243


ffdc29  No.749256


b1a94e  No.749335

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>>749147

>Hall

>not Guenon, Evola, Schuon or Eliade


c9a6de  No.749378

>>749335

Not that guy, but Secret Teachings of All Ages is simply an overview of all religions that have ever existed. Or at least, that Hall knew of.

>>749147

It's not just western, but I guess you could skip the other chapters.


f883a7  No.749959

I am currently reading Black Edelweiss - war memoirs. Apart from that I try to read Scripture. When I am done with the war stories I will probably move to church fathers.

>>748873

>>748852

>>749141

Nice


f883a7  No.750431

>>748942

> "Becoming" by Michelle Obama

hard to believe anyone reads those books - as well as "Trumpwave" literature.

But well everyone's got a different taste I guess


14d941  No.750447

>>750431

I don't know.

I hear Trump's Art of the Deal is an okay and fun read.


d96169  No.750449

>>748849

More than a Carpenter by Josh McDowell


b254e8  No.750459

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>>749135

Mere christianity is good

have a bread pill


af618f  No.750461

im trying to read the bible and the going is really slow

i heard youre not supposed to read it like a novel (front to back) is there a preferred order im supposed to read it in?


f883a7  No.750852

>>750447

Fun read maybe. Personally I would not read it because it would probably be a waste of time. For fun I mostly meet friends, go out. When reading I prefer serious stuff.

That's just me though.

>>750461

How about getting a calendar/subscribe to daily readings of a particular church and then stick to it. You read what you read. If you feel like it take one book apart from this and read it regardless, perhaps a page a day or so.

That's my system


28a757  No.750866

Just finished Bella Dodd’s “school of darkness”, interesting read…about to start Tolstoy’s “what is art?”.


f883a7  No.751848

Finishing Selected Writings - Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera.

A good read.


7c3f0e  No.752280

>>748849

The Communist Manifesto

It's really confusing though. Marx sucks. He's a bad man.


f883a7  No.752289

>>752280

Yeah I remember when I read it.

Tear down family, tear down nations, tear down religion.

Pure poison. One needs to read that to understand bolshevism


28a757  No.752294

>>748939

I disagree with that book on many things, but like you said: some nuggets of gold here and there. For example: I agree we need to first build a “stronghold” in our communities where we can go to find God and fellow Christians, and retreat from the horrors of modernity to collect our forces and energies. I agree we need to discover again the value of prayer and unity. He even somehow managed to make a case for basic distributism (yes, make fun of it but I still admire that idea)!

I suggest as a read: The Death of Common Sense and the Builditof Character…good books, even with their own flaws.


766751  No.752304

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Getting through pic related but honestly I keep getting sidetracked


ebd124  No.753356

Religious Vocation: An Unnecessary Mystery by Fr. Richard Butler


55251e  No.753930

Sort of off topic, but it has to do with books so…

What is meant by Ecclesiastes 12: 11-12? I'm pretty sure it's not as simple as "don't read/write books outside the Bible" or even "don't read/write about things other than God and Christianity" though it might be a caution about other kinds of wisdom books or false teaching? Not sure.


6343bd  No.753943

Can I get some recommendations for Christian books on audible?

I like to listen to books while I work


c2b283  No.753951

>>753943

there is always text to audio converters but some sound too synthetic. But some might be fine.


779a09  No.754208

Just finished Tom Soyer, now on to Cuckleberry Finn.


8a8311  No.754395

Libido Dominandi by E. Michael Jones


40c04c  No.754555

Libido Dominandi.

What do you guys think about Meditations on the Tarot?


817c41  No.754558

I’ve got Robert Hugh Benson’s ‘Come rack! Come Rope!’ after hearing about his Lord of the World book.


370456  No.754566

>>754555

It's wonderfully articulate heretical trash that brought me back to the faith, but heretical trash nonetheless. The wheat can easily be found in the notable mystics of the Church, particularly the spanish, and the chaff is the kind that plays off of the same air of secret wisdom that leads people to seek gnosticism out of pride. It would be a competent bridge from the occult to the Church if readers could expected to separate said wheat from said chalf, as I, by God's grace, was able too, but sadly I see no reason to believe so.


27c7c4  No.754661

>>749145

Melanchthon's Treatise is top tier


c2b283  No.754724

The Protocols.


9fa73b  No.754798

>>749137

Liberalism in this context doesn't mean "leftist" like it does in an American context. It means something more along the lines of putting man as the measure of things, centering society around rational thought, and enlightenment values, with a focus on liberty, democracy, equality and so on…


11228e  No.754807

I am currently reading Apologia Pro Vita Sua.


c7b7ad  No.754882

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I just finished The Brothers Karamazov. I think it may be my favorite piece of fiction I've read yet, even above Dostoevsky's other works. I like that Dostoevsky grants ideological opponents like Ivan the most credit and fairness possible, while still showing the truth and imparting a Christian message through Alyosha and Zossima.

I only wonder how so many profligate writers such as Nietzsche and Sartre could have read and loved his works and yet continued to promote their atheist and arrogant philosophies. It seems odd that so many have read it and yet tragically so few have understood and taken to heart the beauty of Dostoevsky's message at the end, which is the foundation of Christianity; to love others absolutely as you would yourself.

Regardless, I really liked it.


ac6194  No.754885

>>754882

>I only wonder how so many profligate writers such as Nietzsche and Sartre could have read and loved his works and yet continued to promote their atheist and arrogant philosophies

It's amazing how many people love that book yet completely miss it's message. Even Hilary Clinton claimed that it's her favorite novel. I guess the themes just go over their heads.


c7b7ad  No.754886

>>754885

>Even Hilary Clinton claimed that it's her favorite novel. I guess the themes just go over their heads.

Exactly, the sheer arrogance of someone like that who can read of Alyosha's final speech and continue in their infirmity astounds me, not with contempt, but just sheer confusion. I think their simplicity of intellect can be an explanation (not excuse) for some, but for others I can only think of pride as an explanation for that level of mental gymnastics and willful-ignorance; they either think they know better, or simply chose wickedness regardless out of convenience or weakness. Probably the greatest tragedy about the book is people's not adopting or at least understanding it's message.


00c3eb  No.755021

>>754566

Thanks for the info. I guess I'll skip it, then.


020248  No.755073

>>748939

Any books about a Catholic defense against the charges of paganism?


020248  No.755075

>>754882

Should I read Crime and Punishment before reading this?


a192d3  No.755080

File: f707992877a270f⋯.jpg (23.72 KB, 310x475, 62:95, 2830937.jpg)

>>755073

The Pagan Temptation by Thomas Molnar might interest you


c2b283  No.755116

>>754798

Western liberalism is just a logical conclusion of

>muh liberty

>muh equality

>muh democracy

Either in its most extreme form or its more subtle form…it's still the same thing.


797fd2  No.755123

>>755116

It's really not. . . Totally different perspectives on

> The role of the state

> The role of the individual

> Freedom of speech (of thought really)

> Different definitions of freedom on general

It's a confusion of terms. The one anon is talking about is a product of the enlightenment, Voltaire et al whereas progressive liberalism in the other sense of the word is a product of Marxism. The former was and is all about the liberation of the individual in the pursuit of realising his full potential in the world free of the tyranny of state and church. The latter was and is about the liberation of classes of peoples from the oppressions of other classes. Eg. the bourgeoisie/proletariat economic oppression which developed into what we have today in identity politics. The difference between the two is most clearly seen today in the free speech debate.( See for example: https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/01/04/we-must-be-free-to-criticise-islam/ which a classical liberal could easily say but a progressive (american) liberal couldnt as minority rights need protection.) What the two have in common is they both place man at the centre with no place for God so if that's what you mean we are in agreement. But they go about their business with different modes of discourse which need be recognised of they are to be spoken against in the public sphere.


fc2ac4  No.755143

Inb4 getting called a /pol/ock, but I tried reading Mein Kampf just to see what it said, but i gave up on it. Most recently finished the Rule of St. Benedict, will try to see if I can find the Rule of St. Basil and start the Sayings of the Desert Fathers.


92e533  No.755148

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>>755143

>i tried reading Mein Kampf

For My Legionaries > Mein Kampf 10000% and a more enjoyable read.

Summary:

Codreanu, fed up with [((communists))] ruining his country, creates the Legion of St. Micheal the Archangel and does good deeds for his people while undermining the [((synagogue of satan))]


6343bd  No.755162

I started reading David Copperfield


c7b7ad  No.755206

>>755075

>Should I read Crime and Punishment before reading this?

I think Brothers Karamazov is the better of the two, honestly. But ultimately it depends entirely on what you are interested in. Crime and Punishment is a bit shorter and better for people interested in penance and are newer to Christianity, while Brothers' message is best for those struggling with faith and learning to love other people. I definitely recommend reading both, though.


e35059  No.755258

Currently read Behold A Pale Horse. Should have picked up a copy years ago.


e35059  No.755264

>>749118

Actually the majority (perhaps slim) would are conservative and would probably agree that liberalism is a sin, if they were believers that is.

You would be surprised at the number of Christian conservatives in America.


55251e  No.756329




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