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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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a7c77d  No.769635

My relationship with my wife is falling a part. I have been praying so hard but nothing is getting better. I have tried everything to fix this and now I just don't know what to do. :(

0fbfc4  No.769647

What's the conflict?


99ec86  No.769737

File: 5f84b5b2a9610af⋯.jpg (46.67 KB, 800x1006, 400:503, IMG_20180723_115912.jpg)

Pray to the immaculate heart of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Pray a rosary daily with the intention of healing the divide. It will work, our blessed mother always prays for us, especially for families.


1c71b3  No.769739

Divorce.


9cc8b2  No.769742

>>769739

Might have to be the case. However OP, it would have to be only a civil divorce, in the eyes of God she is still your one and licit wife. You cannot re-marry.


e26623  No.769743

>>769635

If push comes to shove try to get it annulled, but before you do that let us try to help. What's going on? Why is the marriage failing?


1c71b3  No.769745

>>769742

Yes he can.

What is it with you people and your arhaic laws?


9cc8b2  No.769749

>>769745

Every one that putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and he that marrieth her that is put away from her husband, commmitteth adultery.

Luke 16:18


1c71b3  No.769753

>>769749

That's sweet that you can quote scripture, but where is your understanding?

What about that a husband and his wife are to be one flesh?

What about that if a part of you that offends you, would be better to have cast off?

Sins are to be repented, not wallowed in.


9cc8b2  No.769755

>>769753

>That's sweet that you can quote scripture, but where is your understanding?

it's right there. sorry, repentance is changing your ways to suite the ways of God, not changing the commandments of God to suite your ways.


1c71b3  No.769757

>>769755

God sees though all our hipocricy.

And Jesus himself said that the law is a living thing, not some words on a stone that'd be cast at by some at others.


9cc8b2  No.769758


1be507  No.769759

>>769753

Yes, that is why he should embrace his marriage, and he should cut you away, snake.

>>769757

The law is eternal, something isn't adultery now and a wonder tomorrow.


1c71b3  No.769762

>>769759

The law is alive and no one is sinless.

What do you advise OP then?

To suffer his wife's madness? Lock her up somewhere maybe?

How about they both start to drink and abuse substances?

Where is your advice that is pure and leads not to sin?

Hipocrate.


1c9c20  No.769779

>>769762

The advice of St. Paul. Separation from bed and board.

Anyway if one of them "marries" another they are committing adultery.

Repent and submit to Rome liberal.


1c71b3  No.769781

>>769779

I repent every day.

Live by what you preach.


5a2ebd  No.769784

>>769635

Have sex with her. Stop using contraceptives. Have a baby.


e535fb  No.769827

>>769781

And so I do.

Are you that new kind of heretics in the Church that say the "rules" are impossible to keep? That divorce should be allowed because otherwise it would make people's life harder?


1d1aa9  No.769829

>>769745

God isn’t “archaic”, and He doesn’t change. When He said remarriage was adulterous, He wasn’t joking.


e12d6f  No.769831

>>769737

You do realize that's idolatry, right?


85edd7  No.769857

>>769831

The apostles were wrong again.

Remind me why do we like those guys after all?


0372ad  No.769866

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>>769857

I can understand asking God to send his servants to help you, whether they be a saint or an angel but >>769737 literally says "Pray to the immaculate heart of the Blessed Virgin Mary", please feel free to justify why you think praying to anyone other than God is acceptable, especially in light of Revelation 22:9-10.


0f92ae  No.769871

Anon, check the nature of women thread if you haven't already, and if you want more specific advice you better be more specific about it.

To be plain and simple, don't argue with her, give her back love regardless, but also don't expect anything back, and try to heal yourself from passion.


022aea  No.769872

>>769857

find an apostle who prayed to mary


7bd88c  No.769875

>>769872

John 19:26-27


022aea  No.769876

>>769875

26 When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son!

27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

>ctrl+f "pray"

>no results found


94bcbf  No.769910

>>769876

Prayer to saints is not prayer to God. It's intercession. No different than asking your pastor for prayers to God. Except Catholics and Orthodox see the Church in heaven and earth as a whole. Not just on earth.

And asking for help from those faithful to the Lord helps: "The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much." - James 5:16

Except the Church is much bigger than your eyes can see. So call upon it all. Only an atheist or uber-rationalist doesn't believe this.


a5faaa  No.769912

This thread shit the bed fast.

What's troubling your marriage OP?


0e6e10  No.769917

>>769910

The challenge was "find an apostle who prayed to Mary"


85edd7  No.769936

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>>769917

And of course St. John who was with her lots of times personally.


1be507  No.769937

>>769866

>why you think praying to anyone other than God is acceptable

Are you thinking properly? Why wouldn't it be? Those verses have nothing to do with prayer.

Why do you oppose what every christian has done since the first one, defending your noinsense with verses that have nothing to do with prayer?


1d1aa9  No.769941

Mods please clean up this thread


31b9eb  No.769943

>>769917

Why would they pray to her when she's on earth? They were blessed with her company and could simple ask her to keep them in her prayers.

Just like we do to any fellow Christian. That's my whole point. The only difference is that Protestants are essentially materialists when it comes to Church, and don't see themselves as one with the Church in Heaven.

As the Nicene Creed states however: There is only ONE Church.

I'm same anon you're replying to btw.. sorry for the confusion/change in IDs.


83e732  No.769950

>>769635

Dude, are you just one and done-ing, or are you gonna tell us what's up?


0e6e10  No.769953

>>769943

This is terribly frustrating

Re read the exchange

>Pray to Mary

<That's idolatry

>I guess the apostles were wrong

<When did the apostles pray to Mary?

Here we are

Did the apostles or did they not pray to mary? The obvious answer is NO


1d1aa9  No.769954

>>769953

Off-topic


f560b3  No.769969

>>769953

><That's idolatry

Hey mom pray for me to God = you are my god and I will worship you

><When did the apostles pray to Mary?

Look at the previous posts and see how they honored her, including St. Luke.

And btw St. John was the only one alive when she died, and its actually from his mouth that we know she was assumed into the heavens.

And the tonnes of evidence everyone prayed to the saints specially to the martyrs.

But history is fake because it doesn't say the early church was the early baptists nor the pope St. Steve Anderson I.


0372ad  No.769973

>>769937

>Are you thinking properly? Why wouldn't it be?

I apologise, I mis-quoted, my intention was to quote Revelation 22-8-9

>8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.

>9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

Now here the Angel essentially states that he is a member of the Body of Christ as the prophets and followers of Christ are i.e. Mary and the saints are. After this he tells you to worship God.

If I am missing something here please inform me


2708b3  No.769974

Lol did this anon ask for help and then the near immediate responses devolved into infighting.


f560b3  No.769976

>>769973

>I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.

>the angel condemns worship other than God (aka idolatry)

Who would have known?

>See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

This is exactly why we ask them help and for they to be our advocates to God.

What do you thing catholics do?

Mary, or St. Something but no Jesus?

We ask their help because they are next to Jesus and the prayer of a righteous man can make wonders for us, like again the bible says.

Once again idolatry: worship something that's isn't God as a god

What catholics do: recognise that the saints are creatures (angels or man) and ask them to intercede to us next to God, yes to the True God, since they are a lot closer to Him than we are.


093b5c  No.769987

>>769635

Can you give us more detail on what the problems are in the relationship?


cb17ec  No.769991

>>769635

The solution is simple but arduous. All you have to do is be open to communication, and get her open to communication. Love isn't something you get for free just because you're in a relationship or even married, it's something you build together. If you guys have built any love at all between you, you will be able to communicate a solution.

Don't stand for silences or unfinished disagreements. Air everything until you both completely understand how each other thinks about any conflict in your lives. Explain reasoning for poor behaviour, and resolve to correct it.


d4d03a  No.770102

Are you an evangelical boomer?




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