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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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a32b11  No.781779

Americans to split with United Methodist Church over same sex marriage.

77b848  No.781781

>>781779

Won't be the first time. "United Methodist" isn't the only branch of Methodist.


a0cd94  No.781786

>>781779

Is it official yet & do you have a link?


a32b11  No.781790


1174cd  No.781791

File: a6dbebc5de8b480⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 283.64 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, njet6a1e1ii21.png)

>>781779

Man…if only the methodists had a central authority figure to keep order and everyone unified. If only.

>feelsbadman


c1af24  No.781810

>>781791

They have a mechanism for central authority that explicitly rejected the demands of the sexual revolutionaries


37474c  No.781813

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>>781791

I know what you mean. Feels bad man.


4f9f5b  No.781815

>>781791

The Pope couldn't even keep the British from breaking away from the RCC and brits are the biggest bootlickers on the planet.


1174cd  No.781817

File: 2d6e766cbbdfa5d⋯.jpg (79.4 KB, 800x422, 400:211, henry-with-wives.jpg)

>>781815

Something something martin luther something something led everyone astray something something muh dick


02ecaa  No.781821

>>781791

remove the log from your own eye


02ecaa  No.781822

>>781790

did you seriously just link an actually gay site to this board


1174cd  No.781823

>>781821

>t. doesn't understand what that verse means


111b18  No.781824

>>781779

It would be nice if they did split off and form their own "church" that is ok with sodomy, but the thing you guys need to understand is that THEY WILL NOT.

Their goal is not to form their own gay-accepting denomination, there have already been attempts at that and they are tiny.

Their goal is to completely subvert and destroy the established churches.

THEY WILL NOT LEAVE ON THEIR OWN. THEY MUST BE FORCEFULLY EVICTED.

>>781791

unified behind pederasty and sodomy? Behind the filioque? Behind ecumenism and pandering to every NWO fad (including increasing homosexuality acceptance) under the sun?

Hard winnie the pooh pass, papist.


fc5ec9  No.781827

Can I get a quick rundown on Methodist doctrine? Are they trinitarian?


661646  No.781843

>>781827

Yes, they're trinitarian. Methodism arose out of the holiness movement in episcopalianism.

Methodism is Wesleyan in theology, which is generally considered arminian reformed.


b2ea5e  No.781844

>>781824

>unified behind pederasty and sodomy? Behind the filioque? Behind ecumenism and pandering to every NWO fad (including increasing homosexuality acceptance) under the sun?

Imagine being this much into the hands of the ZOG media machine.


8cc1ec  No.781854

I left my local UMC about 5 years ago because it became too progressive. Back then people were saying a split was inevitable, and 5 years later it still hasn't happened. I don't see it happening. Mostly the progs will keep peeing their pants until 2020 General Conference, then they'll use their dirty tricks to force the progressive plan on the entire church.

I'm just glad I'm not around anymore to deal with this crap.


a22ffb  No.781856

>>781779

When I drive past one of these fag churches my blood boils and I want to walk in and rebuke the priest/pastor/bishop/whoever. Then I remember nobody goes to these churches anyways.


77b848  No.781861

>>781856

>nobody goes to these churches

That's not true at all. There are 12 million members of the UMC in the US alone.


02ecaa  No.781863

>>781854

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I left the UMC in late 2017 because of the liberal grandstanding I saw there, among other things. A split (probably) won't happen because of all the money tied up in the property, neither side wants to either lose that or have to pay for it all.

>>781856

They can be relatively full.


a22ffb  No.781867

>>781861

>>781863

It’s kind of a “pearls before swine” thing you know. These churches are not places of morality in any way. I would have the same results trying to win souls in a whorehouse, WHICH is not a bad idea by any means. However, it’s just an uphill battle.


77b848  No.781868

>>781867

>it’s just an uphill battle

Long is the road and narrow the gate that leads to salvation.


ebd9f8  No.781870

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>>781824

Just do it anon.

Become Orthodox.


a32b11  No.781875

File: 835b5a27b172a71⋯.jpeg (95 KB, 640x960, 2:3, methodist leader.jpeg)

>>781868

Freedom of Religion has created a Free Market of Faith. Promise the sheep an easy and popular path to salvation and keep the collection plates full.


eda907  No.781877

>>781875

This.

Freedom of religion must die.


b2ea5e  No.781879

>>781875

It wasn't always this way you know. It wasn't until the past 70 or so years that this whole "muh freedums" became enforceable. If you tried to preach homo acceptance in 1910 you would find yourself running from an angry lynch mob.


a22ffb  No.781896

>>781875

An “easy” path to salvation? Are you serious? Most of these people think you get to Heaven by being a good person, which is impossible. Next to none of them actually have faith in Jesus’ atoning sacrifice. And if they say they do, then they believe that they can lose their salvation.


b26b63  No.781900

>>781824

I'll take the filioque over the blasphemous "distinction" between essence and energy any day tbh.


a32b11  No.781918

File: a52ed83f828f0d5⋯.jpg (413.7 KB, 1002x1390, 501:695, burned at the stake.jpg)

>>781877

go back to the old ways.


ebd9f8  No.781919

>>781900

How is it blasphemous?

As I understand all its saying is that God's energies are different from God's essence. The Orthodox are not saying there are two eternals or pantheism or any of that. God is both energy and essence. Idk maybe I'm misunderstanding their position.


a32b11  No.781920

>>781896

what could be easier than this?

…9that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For with your heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved. 11It is just as the Scripture says: “Anyone who believes in Him will never be put to shame.”… Romans 10:10


b26b63  No.781922

>>781919

It contradicts purus actus, and therefore implies that God has potentialities, which implies both that He's imperfect and that He requires a creator. You're basically an atheist if you believe in this false distinction.


77b848  No.781924

>>781920

>believe in your heart

That's the hard part. A lot of people proclaim Christ the Lord, but don't believe it in their hearts. Not truly believe.

Matt 7:21


ebd9f8  No.781931

>>781922

I reconcile that with the belief that while God could have decided to not create the world, this is a choice He would never have taken. He would always choose to create the world. So there aren't potentialities but the world is still contingent on God.

In the Orthodox tradition philosophy is the handmaiden of theology. Also the Catechism of the Catholic Church is pretty clear about us not being able to define/know everything, pretty clear about there being mysteries that befuddle our logic. In RC recently however there seems to be more of the opposite mentality, he who defines God best loves God and we have to obsessively define everything. No offense.


613333  No.781935

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>>781791

I know that feel


1174cd  No.781940

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>>781935 (ID check)

Lol


7de184  No.783394


c63bbc  No.783535

>>781791

>the United Methodist Church

>being anything but divided

Don't be silly, friend; if they followed the example of Catholics, they might actually be a united church.


07c1f0  No.783557

>>783394

Chads are gluttonous fatasses now.. who throw fits over a mere woman (and then just kill her later anyways)?


1e101e  No.783615

Splitters gonna split


a340de  No.784170

>>781875

>all ages

>all beliefs

What did she mean by this?


4301f3  No.793783

>>793765

HELLO, CHARLIE


88b268  No.793786

>>793783

Not me, I swear.

I'm not an edgy atheist.


ab0355  No.793788

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>>781813

Your leader shattered the church into thousands of denominations. Even the Pope has kept better order.


a750ad  No.794104

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>>781791

>Popeposting

They do have central authority figure, He is the same as yours. However, does not mean that they won't rebel and disagree with one another.


40a36b  No.794123

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>>794104

>the prot Pope is the same as the actual Pope

Last I checked Jesus gave the keys to the kingdom to St. Peter not pastor Jimantha.


d38a90  No.794126

What's going to be the new name? Are all the US Methodists pro LGBT?


3d8496  No.794130

>>794126

There are Free Methodists that don't share the UMC's stance on homosexuality. There's also the Wesleyan Methodist Church and the Association of Independent Methodists. The UMC won't schism, but those who don't like the LGBT crap will simply move on to another Methodist church.


fcd311  No.794152

>>794130

I like to use these types of events to reach out to disaffected members and tell them about Orthodoxy. I agree with your take in general, but there's always the opportunity to poach a few, maybe even a whole congregation may come over, it's happened before with other prots.




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