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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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537d38  No.785185

>raised protestant (Church of Christ)

>agnostic at 13

>atheist at 14

>gnostic occultist at 15

>protestant (Church of Christ) again at 17

>Orthodox at 20

9a893a  No.785209



faa5b8  No.785212

>family Muslim

>raised atheist

>got baptized Orthodox at 21

>burned myself out, had a mental breakdown, was theistic Satanist for a few months then looked into Catholicism, at 22

>back to Orthodox at 22

>still Orthodox at 23

pretty boring

c4cbe0  No.785220


Your sins are terrible, as are all sins, but God is eager to forgive you for them. The devil is the great accuser, the voice telling you you're unworthy of God's mercy is from the enemy. In a manner of speaking you are unworthy of God's mercy, as is everyone else, but that's how mercy works. Mercy doesn't come from your own level of worthiness, but rather it flows from God's infinite love. In fact, God is already bestowing a certain amount of mercy upon you; if He wasn't then you, and everyone else, would have been sent to Hell a long time ago. You can't beg for mercy because you deserve it, but you must beg for mercy because you need it

471d4c  No.785223

>parents baptise me catholic

>parents take me to mass every sunday

>relunctatly go through the motions

>thankfully its usually only a 30min novus ordo mass

>be around 8-9 mum asks if i want to do first communion, say ok because I was prevented previously being 'underage' dueto roman rite customs

>do first confession, give priest token sin and leave asap

>never catechised

>continue taking eucharist, since I never saw parents or anyone goto confession before, so unwittingly think its optional

>have no concept of being in a 'state of grace'

>goto catholic highschool, no one is actually catholic

>become crypto deist since atheist cosmology never made sense to me, otherwise philosophy or religion didn't cross my mind

>continue to reluctantly goto mass because of parents

>finish high school

>sometime later middle of the night decide to read bible, don't know why, start reading genesis, taking notes, naturally I move forward and back like a jew does when reading the bible idk why (lel)

>somehow find 8chan, don't remember how, didn't even go on 4chan before or even frequent reddit

>with the help of /pol/, they show me the absolute state and degeneracy of the modern world

>be on /christian/, exposes me to true christianity or atleast a glimpse of it and among that apologetics and in turn philosophy

>someone posts meme of being in a state of grace to recieve communion, realise i have been doing christianity wrong

>start going to church, no longer reluctantly, still don't know what a catechism is so i search on random places on the internet for 'lists of sins' (looking back now that was silly), so i can confess

>goto confession on my own accord for the first time, start weeping while confessing

>later get exposed to conecpt of sedevacantism, start thinking maybe they're right, stop going to mass out of doubt

>later decide sedevacantism is wrong

>then i start considering orthodoxy, never really thought of considering them since i was content with Catholic Answers tier arguements against them

>decide to see what orthodox perspective is, consider them for a couple of years

>stop going to church because don't know which is true

>finally decide in favour of catholicism making peace with novus ordo mass and vatican II

I strongly believe i was brought here by providence

da7b9b  No.785224


Just go to Confession, and preferably attend a Mass right afterwards. When you experience God's mercy firsthand you'll truly believe it in your heart. If you can't silence the voice of the accuser then tolerate it, because it'll stop when God triumphantly snatches you away from your sins.

5f7494  No.785236


>raised in a diet coke Reformed Christian family

>atheist at 12-16

>Roman Catholic inquirer at 17-18

>Orthodox inquirer at 19

583196  No.785238


Pray the rosary and be lukewarm no more.

fce1ea  No.785247


>raised in a diet coke Reformed Christian family

What do you mean by "diet coke"?

7ac615  No.785251


>Raised Christian since age 5 since God ended my mother's alcoholism

>Grow up non-denom/Baptist Lite

>Start researching the Church Fathers and the earliest Church in the past 3 years or so (25 now)

>No longer anti-Apostolic, but still Baptist Lite

c6c88a  No.785252

>raised pentecostal

>atheist 13

>libertarian 14

>socialist 17

>occultist / witchcraft 18

>conservative 20

>high church lutheran 21

>catholic or orthodox ???

95ceec  No.785255


Literally me to a T except the sed/ortho stuff.

95ceec  No.785256


Which teachings?

95ceec  No.785274



adb4b0  No.785312

>normal Catholic childhood

>around middle school: cultural catholic/agnostic

>end of high school: general cultural catholic

>college to present: christian identity woke

d3fd6c  No.785393

>Raised with no religion

>At 17 I begin to study philosophy

>I vacillate between schools of thought

>Mistakenly think of Socrates and Plato as irreligious people

>Come to conclusion that Christianity was historically in the wrong

>Discover Laconism and Stoicism

However in 2015 there seemed to be a wind of change in the air, and I hoisted sail to see where it would take me. Turns out I was wrong about everything. Socrates and Plato were deeply religious, and it was the Sophists who were the atheists. Took my leap of faith and returned to the church.

78ecdd  No.785401

>Raised Baptist.

>Apostatized due to cognitive dissonance of my lukewarm worldliness in contrast with Christianity, along with the half-hearted catechism I received.

>About one year spent, of alternating between Nihilist, Agnostic, etc. Whatever I felt like at the moment.

>Briefly became New Age Wiccan-esque LARPagan due to emptiness, plus infatuation with Norse myths and "roots to muh ancestors."

>Quickly turned into Reconstructionist LARPagan after coming across more academically sound material which opened my eyes to most "pagan" books in the New Age section at the Barnes and Noble being just "pagan" flavored mystery religion/feel good fluff bunny garbage.

>Start to Idolize Bill Linzie and hang out at sites like Asatru Lore.

>"Alt Right" gets tagged onto Reconstructionst LARPagan, after exposure to the pro "traditionalist" pagan ramblings of datejesus.com (I kid you not. He's a pseudo intellectual troll who started out owning and using the jesus.com domain, and then switched over to the former for whatever reason) which serves as a gateway to the Alt Right/Manosphere as detailed below

>One of the articles on his site sent me to a site called corrupt.org, which proceeds to springboard me to other "radical traditionalist"/PUA/"red pill"/manosphere sites like Amerika/Brett Stevens; American Nihilist Underground Society; altright.com under Richard Spencer before it became a blog, Roissy/Heartiste, RooshV/ROK, The Rawness, The Spearhead, Jack Donavan, and In Mala Fide/Matt Forney.

>Exposure to GamerGate and, soon after, /pol/, exacerbate this.

>During this time period, start my own LARPagan kindred, and said kindred collapses due to the petty anthill politics and toxic personalities that are endemic to LARPaganism.

>Ironically also get wrapped up with Hippies/Hipsters/Punks, Drugs and the Occult during said time period as well. Go figure.

>Building nagging doubts over the course of years, plus trying times that included almost literally losing my sanity, and the toxicity of the above communities, bring me back to Christ and Christianity.

> The "Ex Effect" takes effect on LARPaganism and the above (i.e. how you often don't see the flaws in your ex or your relationship with them until you finally break up with them.) The moral relativity/glorified Nihilism cosplaying as Theism aspect of LARPaganism especially sticks out like a sore thumb by now.

>Still once bitten, twice shy about weak catechism and overall experience with Baptist church and Protestantism in general.

>Investigate Catholicism and Orthodoxy, and even give Protestants and Baptists a couple more college tries.

>Fall in love with worship and theology of Orthodoxy.

>Currently catechuman in Orthodoxy, prepping for baptism.

d65528  No.785615

>raised United protestant

>Atheist by 12, as most united protestants do

>Go through hard times around 16

>Fall back into God

>start reading bible

>Become non denominational

>Go to catholic church but get super sick and get heart pain the closer i get to the building, take it as a sign from God not to be catholic (Although looking back it may have been a satanic trick and/or coincidence.)

>eventually my life starts going great and i'm happy again

>Become lukewarm and feel shame every time i see my crucifix

(I am here)

>hopefully finally pick a denomination and stop being a fair weather Christian.

c2b8ac  No.785649

>Raised without anything, told to do whatever I please

>Atheist at 13

>Slowly realise atheism is pretty gay so grow out of it, vaguely believe in karma

>Start LARPing as a crusader at 17/18 to derail Islam threads on /pol/

>Eventually realise everything the bible says is true both socially and scientifically, decide to start praying

>Begin actually reading the Bible and looking into things properly around 19, attempt to stop living as a degenerate

>Eventually reach the conclusion around 20 that Protestantism cant be true based on the reading church fathers, leading to me wanting to become Ortholarp or Cathokek

>Attended my first mass yesterday, was better than I expected even though I usually avoid as many social situations as I can

Will probably go again, still not entirely convinced on veneration but I assume whatever the answer is it will come as long as I truthfully seek the Lord

bf2130  No.785652


probably they only observed christian traditions and not believe it. lot of that going on in the world : /

e05d6a  No.785657


>Protestant upbringing

>my family stopped attending our Baptist church at age 11 because the pastor was adulterous and greedy

>agnostic at the age of 12

>my mother took me to a few Protestant churches during my teens, but they were stupid as well (pastors complaining about their money problems during sermons, congregants acted as if on drugs, cliques, etc.)

>by age 20 I'm moved out of my parents and have a car, and I feel God calling me to attend church once again

>the only one I know of that seems okay is a "non-denominational" church that my uncle and cousin go to

>get baptized there

>discover that church has the same issues as all the other ones I've been to and get fed up with it

>research the Roman Catholic Church and the history of Christianity leading up to my 21st birthday

>my eyes are opened to the inherently flawed nature of Protestantism

>after debating between the RCC, sedevacantists, and Orthodox, I conclude the former is the true Church

>on my way to becoming a candidate in the RCC at 21

While I'm still very immature in my faith, I have no doubts I'm finally home now. Perhaps I'll study Latin and attend a TLM in time, but for now I'm more than content with Novus Ordo.

ac5d37  No.785676


>Go to catholic church but get super sick and get heart pain the closer i get to the building, take it as a sign from God not to be catholic

It's good to fear god. If you've sinned a lot you want to stay in the darkness where no one can see, but if you fear the lord you know you will be judged sooner or later so you might as well ask for his forgiveness and not disobey him again.

The same thing happened to me the first time I went to confession and it still happens when I go back to confession after not having gone for a while. But after that first time, I swear the world smelled better. I would still have panic attacks at mass for the first few months but they went away but I was super fugged up in the head when I started going.

Also I should mention that you can't just go to confession as a non Catholic. You have to be going through rcia and be taught by a priest how to confess properly and what confession is all about. I didn't have to do this because I was confirmed as a lukewarm kid who's lukewarm mom made him do it for cultural reasons.

f35f8b  No.785689


One of the signs of demonic possession is an aversion to holy things, such as Churches or crucifix. You feel pain and shame from both things, so maybe you would need to consult a Catholic Exorcist to deal with whatever is inside you.

725b0c  No.785721



This. It's time to get rid of that evil spirit that sank it's claws into you.

e924b7  No.785928

>raised by lukewarm Methodists

>decided to be edgy fedora to fit in with local branch of the trench coat mafia

>decided not to be edgy fedora when i was nearing my mid 20s

i just want to forget everything that happened between 13 and 24.

394c59  No.785933


>raised by atheist parents, mum a "whatever faith makes you happy" type, dad a literal reddit atheist, raised atheist ofc

>always had a slight feeling God was real and didn't like that bc I didn't want to be judged

>become major fedora between 14-17

>start browsing pol, they get me to read Evola and I come to the conclusion godlessness has been the cause of society's moral collapse. No clue which religion to be though

>become unironic vargfag at 17

>realise that's gay at 18 and start looking into the church, come across this board and meet some decent lads on discord who explained the basics to me

>decide on the RCC after months of back and forth between that and Orthodoxy, hoping to be received next year

3910e6  No.785938

>raised baptist

>larped pretty hard as a christian fundementalist simply to be a contrarian

>found ifb steven aderson stuff at 20

>actually started reading the bible

>figure out the baptist church isnt very biblical at all on many doctrines

>search for the true church as described in scripture

>21 til now (26yo) church of Christ

3e142e  No.786658


>grew up agnostic to two fallen away catholic converts

>had little to no idea of religion until teens

>became interested in philosophy and literature during early high school

>spent half of high school a closet christian, studying the bible and revered writings while discerning a denomination to join

>want to be orthodox bc of mysticism but due to distance from church and ethnic focus I settle for Catholicism

>convert, became a very devout catechumin.

>few months after reception into the church become tortured by guilt, would write pages of my sins to bring to confession weekly

>dislike how there is no serious devotion in the local community

>became pagang about a year ago, mostly to escape said guilt, dived into the occult to satisfy need for mysticism

>faith in paganism is now gone, realize that most of the actual positive influences from it and the occult were already within christian mysticism

>started lurking here to find my path again

Not gonna lie my journey has been pretty bad, do you guys have any advice for my current situation?

68d36d  No.786659



No seriously, go read Damick's Orthodoxy and Heterodoxy, it clears up a lot of misunderstandings and misconceptions about many denominations, not just Orthodoxy.

5881d8  No.786661


Don't go into Christianity looking for a true mystical experience, that will only bring disappointment. A true mystic experience is a gift from God that he bestows only on those truly fit to receive such a blessing. Very, very few people are.

78ecdd  No.786679


^^^^ A thousand times THIS. Had "mystical experiences" myself while a LARPagan. Can say from personal experience, that if you have a "mystical experience", there is a 99.99999% chance that your are literally just being trolled by demons. Even bona fide canonized saints were tempted with false visions of angels, paradise and even Christ himself. Always test such things and be on your guard.

6a3b30  No.786682

>raised in atheist household

>become innate theist 6-8

>become 'Christian' - I believed in Christianity, but doesnt understand the new testament or significance of Jesus. Just believed the God of the Bible was right and that new testament was significant. From 8-12

>12-18 Agnostic

>19 - Come close to God again

>19 1/2 - Become Christian, look at various denominations, theology and history

>20 - Get baptised Catholic

>Present, still a strong Catholic.

5dadc8  No.786686

>raised nominally non-denom with Charismatic leanings and rarely went to Church

>odd spouts of caring about God and occult or spiritual matters

>never super serious about it despite spiritual experiences until 17

>become a gn*stic heretic

>study Christian esotericism

>somehow find orthodox Christianity, latch on to Christ

>slowly convert to Catholicism despite many difficulties

>lapse into Orthodoxy and Calvinism during the conversion process

>somehow remain Catholic

>get fully solidified in the teaching at 19

>begin to doubt and question while still somehow maintaining Catholicity

And here I am just before baptism, but God will save me.

a1b505  No.786688


>raised Anglican-Light (Methodist)

>stop believing God cares at 11-12

>become Deist

>Become born-again Evangelical at 17

>Loner-Christian for a decade

>Realize Evangelical theology is retarded

>Power of the Holy Spirit oddly absent from other churches though…

>Teach fellow Evangelicals better theology while going out and spreading the gospel on weekends for the win.

3e142e  No.786694





I wasn't really implying mysticism as talking with spirits, but more along the lines of spiritual fulfillment (yoga, meditation), but I see your guys' points. Thanks a ton, this is really gonna give me something to chew over the next few weeks.

598f16  No.786706

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>Raised Agnostic (thnx state sponsored education)

>become Christian by 17 (started reading Bible and theology, but despised church for being curroupted to core)

>get memed into watching Anderson a year later

>Find out KJV is the one and only authentic word of God

>plan on becoming Baptist soon

Thanks /Christian/ for introducing Anderson to me.

242d2c  No.786711

>My only connection with Christianity growing up was my (still living) maternal grandparents (Salvation Army, think Methodists but they reject Baptism and Holy Communion.) taking me to church when I visited on the weekends

>Effectively 0 catechism, I legitimately didn't even know who the Apostles were for years

>Go through the usual bratty 'I don't wanna go to church reeee' period

>wind up the sort of atheist you'd expect to unironically wear a fedora and have a neckbeard, a point I thankfully never reached

>The 'tism eventually gets me into history, starting I think with the typical 'muh romans' and expanding into the Medieval and Hellenistic eras

>My memory's a bit foggy here but it was either that or my delving into imageboards that finally pushed me into a 'Hey maybe I jumped to conclusions on this whole religion thing, this all looks fascinating'

>Coupled with general discontent as to my current state of affairs, become a quasi-Deist/gain a vague 'cultural' appreciation for religion

>Still averse to Christianity due to past years of fedora tippage

>Desire for actual substance leads me to Zoroastrianism. My understanding of theology was shaky at best at this point, but it clicked with me that Monotheism was the 'sensible' stance.

>The other part of my mentality was 'something that ancient had to be more correct than what came later, right?' Not the best argument but it kept me out of new age rubbish, so a small blessing nonetheless.

>Due to my location, I have access to neither the Avesta nor a Fire Temple, so my enthusiasm eventually burns out.

Though I will admit to it making me an iranaboo, and my fondness for the Mazdaists remains

>Dive deeper into my historical 'tism

>learn more about Christianity in a burst of cobbled-together self-Catechism than the rest of my life up to that point put together

>Finding this place helped to solidify my faith and pull me out of depravity

In hindsight, thank the Lord I didn't go to Reddit first. /r/Christianity would've sent me right back to Zoroastrianism

>Feel called to the Orthodox Church, which has absolutely no presence where I lived. Tons of Mennonites, a Latin parish, one of those Lutheran churches that's actually decent, etc.

>Only get to act on this pull when I leave for college

>stumble, falter, and struggle.

Not to imply I've ever stopped doing that, mind

>Baptized about two years ago

I can't thank you all enough for being there for the early steps of my walk with Christ. I love you all, God bless you.

even the mods

I actually cried while typing this and I don't even care how lame that sounds

4d5f93  No.786713

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Out of all Satan worship you choose Zoroastrianism

Out of all nations, you choose to like the worst one, Iran.

Inspiring story btw

1fc459  No.786717


You're probably not around by now but I meant it as in "feel-good loosely Christian, very under catechized and non-practicing Christian family".

507087  No.786720

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>raised non-religious (not atheist)

>dad didn't care or talk about god

>mom new age type

>identify as atheist by age of 10 or 11

>start reading philosophy at around 14

>keep reading philosophy and some mythology for next couple years while realizing modern materialist egalitarian society is wrong and need to find alternative

>become larpy vargite neo-pagan white nationalist at age 16-17

>eventually realize pagan religion makes no sense to me and I don't believe it and many people who claim to be neo-pagan are way stupider than me and have no idea what they're talking about so yeah def not true religion

>big fan of Tolkien

>realize he was a Catholic

>start watching and reading Catholic stuff explaining existence of God i.e. Thomistic necessary being etc

>Accept there is one metaphysical creator God

>Read the Bible

>Fascinated and not what I expected

>Read Gospel of Matthew

>Blown away by Jesus

>Feel extremely inspired but also convicted

>Get on knees and submit to God in prayer

>Get up from prayer and see whole new world in a whole new way

>Feel forgiven and empowered by Holy Spirit

>Most compelling experience of my life before or since

>Knew God was real in that moment never felt happier best day of my life by far

>Continued in prayer and study and living life

>Present day now

ff444f  No.786798


>raised Protestant

>from x years old to ~12 we went to various churches in search for the truth, ended up just doing Bible-study at home every Sunday

>abandoned Christianity at ~17 because I thought it was preventing me from living life the way I wanted to

>at 22 I realized that life has no meaning without God, so I started searching for the truth about Him

>24 now, I'm convinced that God lives and I'm happier than I've ever been. Still doing Bible study at home instead of going to church. I consider myself non-denom, but would probably fall in the category of Protestantism.

581d00  No.786800


>literally hasn't attacked another country in centuries

>Shia more moderate than Wahhabism

>yet still resists secularism

>doesn't have any nukes while Israel does

>hosts Dr. E. Michael Jones, Catholic intellectual

Iran isn't so bad anon. Don't listen to the Jews.

78ecdd  No.786803


Aye, in addition to more archetypal occult phenomenon, I also count so called "spiritual highs" amongst pseudo "spiritual experiences.

When I first apostatized from Christianity, I remember having one of the best feelings in the world. Like I had a 50 ton weight lifted off my shoulders, was free and everything was going to be okay from that point on. It lasted a good while…. but it didn't last. Eventually the emptiness came. I even had good warm and fuzzy feelings, and a sense of being on the right path that I would be on for the rest of my life, in addition to the more intense occultic experiences. That lasted for an even longer while… but even that ultimately eroded over time.

In contrast, the good feelings I get with Christianity are simultaneously more and less intense. They are much more profound and grounded. To make a comparison: if the spiritual high from false paths is akin to puppy love or casual flings or a childish crush, in contrast, Christianity gives you a much more deeper, stable and consistent feeling, akin to the sense of long-term companionship acquired in marriage.

Which is why I'm taking my catechism much more seriously. Good feelings alone can still be deceptive, and I know that baptism is a deadly serious commitement. I know that reading every theology book every before I get baptized is not realistic, but I still want to be well grounded in the theology and understanding of my Church and other denominations as well before I take that big step.

4d5f93  No.786871

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>literally hasn't attacked another country in centuries

Iran controls Lebanon through hezbollah and funds pro government rebels in yemen. It's imperialistic like America.

>Shia more moderate than Wahhabism

They ain't, once when they outbreed you they'll persecute Christians. Also, Christians are persecuted in Iran and soul winning is punishable by death.

>yet still resists secularism

They don't, it's a sugar coating. Deep within cities there's degeneracy, heck even homosexuality.

>doesn't have any nukes while Israel does

They do try to make one

No Muslim is an ally, Iran is no better than Saudi.

4c50dd  No.786880

>0-16 Catholic

>16-21 atheist

>21-28 new age

>28-29 Weird Christian/new age hybrid

> 29-32 Non Denominational

> 32-33 High church Lutheran

6cf7c6  No.786882


52ae86  No.786949


>0-10 Nothing in particular.

>11-12 Baptist.

>13-14 Catholic.

>15 Agnostic.

>16-18 Catholic again.

I will be Catholic forever now.

66974e  No.786953

>Baptised UMC at 8 years old

>Became Buddhist (Mahayana) at 15 years old

>Returned to UMC at 35 years old

>Became Catholic at 38 years old

I suppose I'll be Catholic until I die.

3a1c78  No.786962

>raised in a traditional sicilian catholic home

>became agnostic in middle/early high school

>returned to the faith in high school, just couldn't deny God is real and Christ was who He said he was

>tackled with theology an became confessional lutheran in college

>not even lutheran for a year then it closed because no people no money

>more or less returning to catholicism our of necessity

fce1ea  No.786968

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>raised Catholic

>attend Catholic school from grades 1-10

>begin to not take it so seriously

>fall in with some reddit-tier internet communities

>become one of those lukewarm fags who says stuff like "Oh I'm sure the Church will approve of gay marriage sooner or later."

>only basis for believing is "well I was raised this way and also you can't disprove faith"

>grade 11 get dropped into the public school system

>immediately uncomfortable with the open displays of extreme degeneracy

>discover 2012-era /pol/ at this time

>witness the birth of *tips fedora*

>Catholic generals start popping up

>somebody posts pic related

>suddenly actually really seriously believe in God

>suddenly actually really start taking my faith seriously

>get progressively more religious over the next three years

>reaches its peak in the Lent of 2015

>massive nofap streaks, Lectio Divina every day

>finally forced to take on soulless wageslavery

>it all falls apart

>constant feeling of being burnt out

>apathy, chronic masturbation, shitposting addiction

>say stuff like "well I know that logically there must be a God but I can't really feel it in my heart for some reason"

>made a concrete plan to commit suicide, got within an hour or so of doing it and only refrained because I suddenly felt too apathetic

>still attend Mass every Sunday, as long as my wageslavery allows me to

>a month or two ago

>read C.S. Lewis' The Problem of Pain

>get to the part where Lewis writes about how our sins really are abominable

>really affects me deeply

>Lent of 2019

>Rosary + Lectio Divina every day

>day 17 of nofap

>finally starting to "feel" it again

>desperately hoping that God will give me the grace to keep this going for the rest of my life

9b216c  No.787014


>Raised with no religion

>Had a life changing experience that convinced me to believe in Christ. While I wasn't a Catholic, it was a nun at a Catholic school I attended who first planted the seeds of the gospel.

>That said, I never officially became Catholic despite the seed she planted. I ended up being baptized in a neighbor's church (the Church of Christ like you originally), but they turned out to be the more congregational variant and way too insular and small to convince me they were the true church

>Since going my own way, it's been 20 years of asceticism and being on the outskirts of other denominations since. I see a lot of good in many, but might come closest to Orthodox. The only reason I'm not Orthodox is that they would "re-baptize" me again.. simply because I have no proof of baptism from that Church of Christ congregation. I refuse to be baptized again. There is one baptism, and God has blessed me greatly this far.. and it's just plain insulting to be baptized again. I know they mean well, but I can't do it. I can't even think about it right now without feeling a little sick and tense over it.


>So I'm just an informal Christian ascetic with Orthodox leanings.

78ecdd  No.787166


>and it's just plain insulting to be baptized again. I know they mean well, but I can't do it. I can't even think about it right now without feeling a little sick and tense over it.

I'd encourage you to contemplate and pray about this deeply. Being involved with a community and under the guidance of a church is essential to one's spiritual journey.

51ac46  No.787450


>baptized state church lutheran

>atheist for most of my childhood(family is not religius)

>decided to do a christian confirmation, cause why not do it the real way and not some wierd atheist copy.

>began beliving after that, and have since. still in the state church.(the only lutheran church in my area)

bc27ec  No.787466

File: fd82dbde3e7ee4f⋯.png (501.44 KB, 939x469, 939:469, Recent IQ.png)

>Born Baptist, never took much interest in it since I was always materialistic and rationalist, to the point I did math in the pews.

>Family moves away from local church, stop going and I'm glad for it, become atheist.

>Fast forward to 13, when I start digging into philosophy due to the naturalistic perceptive losing its intrigue to me, become Stoic.

>Studying religions after having a breakdown in the snow one winter, quickly filter out all non-Abrahamic religions due to their origins of folk gods and/or pseudo gnosticism ala Buddhism.

>Decide though to try occultism at 14 because I wanted to see what this new-age foolishness was all about.

>Get a literal demon, which is a whole story in and of itself

>Begome Christian at 15 because Islam is incoherent and Jews are tribalistic and I'd had years of /pol/ by this point, not to mention the winnie the pooh demon

>Basically be a non-demon (actually) until I got more solid theological understanding, go to a Baptist church in the meantime. Catholic and Orthodox friend ask me about my beliefs on things like the Eucharist, authority of the Church, priestly orders, etc, and they start calling me a Crypto-Catholic.

>Get into Cathodox theology, eventually decide on Catholicism at age 16 due to their theology being much more developed and less unknowable like Ortho theology tended to be

>Due to a terrible living situation, couldn't go to a church for two years, at 18 finally get to a RCC and become a catechumen.

>Get baptised at 19, confirmed, the works.

>20 now, finally got rid of the demon after a long battle and still happily Catholic.

A lot of friends of mine moved onto Orthodoxy though, and that's a bit shaky for me. I can't abandon sound truth that easy though.

2b5e99  No.787474


>get a demon

tell story?

b016cc  No.787899

>raised irreligious

>edgy fedora during teens

>get interested in Taoism for some reason

>drug induced existential crisis at 17

>long story

>read about Christianity to try to disprove/debunk it

>five years later of intense study

>Slowly came to believe in the Christian faith over that time

>Now Christian

537d38  No.788026


When I converted, the Orthodox Church didn't re-baptize me. There was a tiny dispute between the two parishes that I went to, and the one I went to most went ahead and chrismated me without baptizing me a second time. Maybe just try to find a different parish?

66dd71  No.788045

>born in 95% Catholic country to parents who essentially never were part of the faith in reality

>parents get evangelized by protestant missionaries, non denominational afaik

>move to another country, mainly protestant

>parents too busy adjusting to really do much churchgoing for the first couple of years

>we're turning into a meme Christian family that doesn't really understand much except what we memorized from our church back in the home country

>once we've slowed down a bit, we start looking for churches that speak our language

>all of them are trash, in hindsight now I understand that they were all prosperity gospel churches

>we just don't go to church

>we are now a meme Christian making basic bitch theology mistakes

>I spend my time as a cultural Christian until maybe the latter half of college, mostly the "Christianity is how I worship God, but every religion leads to God, also yay homosexuality!" type

>gaymer gate (very pathetic) hits and it seems like the institutions I trusted are attacking me unfairly while the institutions I hated are defending me

>slowly go from liberal to conservative, by the end of college

>begin to see how stupid the religious beliefs I had are, and basically ask God to show me the way

>out of college, I start work and my boss is an elder at his non denominational protestant church

>he notices my curiosity and invites me Bible study for lunch, then eventually his church

>I start going autistic about it and have been attending for three years now

>preaching the gospel to all of my friends, my wife's family, my family

I feel very fulfilled, lads. About to go read the Bible to my mother in law.

cf0fa7  No.788238

File: f643ca58968e58e⋯.png (36.75 KB, 800x600, 4:3, sketch7.png)


geez was everyone here once an apostate / larpagan? Well I had gave in with the memevacantist thing once so I guess I can't brag.

prepare for blogpost rip.

>Raised Catholic in family of 5 boys by very religious mother, loving parents.

>Have an older brother who i'm a lot alike, who debated atheists

>Honestly family in general is rightwing, willing to be controversial, not conspiricy kind of based tho - always been of a more intellectual grain, so thomas sowwel / milton freedman individualist types.

>rubs off on me, try to defend the faith. Don't have absolute certainty, or even that much understanding in the faith, but generally speaking want to do what is proper *[i was obviously not doing things proper then].

>Randomly as a 10 year old decide to abstain from swearing. Basically I figured if swearing was a sin, then I could save out on a lot of sin by never getting the habit. Honestly i'm not even sure if it is a sin, though St. Peter did say not to be a potty mouth.

>Randomly as a 13 year old decide that, seeing as I don't understand the faith very well, i'll become a priest so that i'll have to get my religious life in order one day.

>Some occasions I considered other dreams, but never gave up on wanting to be a priest in the end.

>Struggle in learning anime - teaches me a lesson more useful than anything I learned in school (which I sucked at) - to see things as they are with your eyes.

>Fast forward to when i'm like, what, 16, 18? I don't even remember.

>William lane craig does the cosmological argument / disproves the multiverse theory.

>Finally understand why this argument works. My exact words were "oh crap you really do exist, I mean I'd always thought, but now I really know."

>Convinced with certainty that God does in fact exist, though nothing really happens other than that I change; My belief is strong and unironic for sure - you can't fake belief of this kind, and honestly it seems essential, but I think this is just God's build up for the next part. Oh and I learn my traditional arguments for God's existence.

>be 20 or so now. Have been trying to quit masturbation on and off for a long, long ass time, way before WLC, but always, always end up failing. Even watch degenerate futa hentai (the big gay) by making excuses. By happenstance, after a trip to the cottage without internet, me and the lads agree to not fap once there because we were in bunk beds, but mostly as a joke.

>Notice when I come back from cottage that it is suddenly really easy to resist temptation to fap - like i'm a fortress.

>Piece it together that maybe the reason why it's so hard for me to quit, is because i'm surrounded by lewds all the time, and so it makes my willpower weak, and if I isolate myself from it better, my willpower will be strong enough to deal with.

>holy crap that makes sense.

>Feelin pretty good about this one. I think it's gonna work.

>Actually I'm so sure, this is actually probably the last time i'll ever masturbate, so how about one last go, for the last time. I thought as I washed the dishes. AS i'm thinking that, i'm washing the inside of a cup, feel something wrap around my finger - it's a big ass centipede. Fling that shit off. Procede to stand around blown away that that actually just happened, that a massive centipede just wrapped around my finger.

>Immediately realize - Could I have received a clearer sign? I mean the timing is so perfect, this is obviously from God.

>didn't fap that night (though I wanted to).

>Start seeing signs from God in the bugs he sends me, opening communications to receive commands from him for the first time.

>Lots of little taps, little things

>Get a job, for some reason things work out in such a way that i'm thinking all day and write my thoughts down during break in a notebook to compare thoughts day by day, and I learn more than i'd ever learned in my entire life, at a rate so much faster than what i'm used to. Also it's nice having money. I don't know how anyone could complain about work, work is great if you get to think and write down your thoughts.

>I am of course, long since on /pol/ and such by now.

>completely lose interest in debating atheists, refuting protestantism and studying the diamond brothers as well as theology in general is waay, way more interesting.

> aaa learning interpretive/intuitive style reasoning. Aaa the memevacantist phase. So many little things.

cf0fa7  No.788239

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Well, I want to believe what is proper, did I not say? Which means I hate wishful thinking, and doing things in bad faith, and I hold out for the Catholic faith, they're always right in the end, so when the diamond brothers show their stuff, I can't see any way out. For the first time ever, I concede - this is the catholic faith and vatican II is false, and that revelation stuff, as well as church history honestly makes it seem like anything is possible. Though rationally I felt the arguments for sedevacantism were fullproof and I couldn't see how I could get around it, conceding just didn't feel good. Not like a betrayal or anything like that, more like i'd just never given in to an argument before - i'm so used to resisting that actually not resisting felt weird. Didn't like it. I also didn't like how I found myself identify that I am a sedevacantist, as though I were something different from a Roman Catholic. But what got me out wasn't my own reason but grace - the whole time I knew that if God would give me the sign that it was wrong, I would drop it; I became more and more convinced, yet he never seemed to give a sign 1 way or another - it was really annoying actually. Between the paralels between luthers reformation and trumps awoovement, sedevacantist issues, and Catholicism, I had never been more confused in my life, and I said it frequently. One time I knew this was the one where I was going to receive the confirmation 1 way or another, and in the genius way in only a way God could think to do it, he gives the strongest confirmation… of a halfway inbetween answer. So I took halfway as the answer - I was to wait and continue the struggle, but at least this time with more hope and more ease. It had been bothering me that I hadn't seen anything from him since the start of these troubles, it made me even more concerned if I was on the right path. Eventually I agreed to go to a latin mass, something I wanted to do before as a traditionalist, but ultimately became forbidden by sedevacantist principals of not going to the counter church, traditionalist or no. "Halfway" made me think it was right to violate these principals. The priest was based af traditionalist Jewish convert to the faith, some of the most beautiful and genuine people you'll ever meet. A man who cries at the sight of the priest, walking up to the altar merely by the sight of his thoughtful reverence. People who give a shit, who participate, women who wear the nice little cloth thingies on their heads in modesty, and man was it beautiful. You could see that it was made by Christians for God - even the lights had crosses embroiden in them, the latin and pastel colors. This was the way church ought to be, it was everything I had always wanted to see, but there in front of me. More importantly, I talked with him after mass, and he was familiar with the diamond brothers and all that. Basically he gave the impression of "the guy has good points and I don't think I could refute them all, but naw, stay in the faith", and that's what I did. Eventually I did find problems with it, so it's no longer just on faith to have good reason to think they are wrong, but that's what it took to get out. Well now as a symptom of the diamond brothers, he got me praying the rosary 2-3 times a day for a time, and he ultimately made me not let anyone hold that type of high influence over me anymore.

And more or less, now I'm here, practicing more. It's been a few months since then tho.

7d7eac  No.788252


Atheist: 1-15

Atheist leaning Agnostic with Gnostic/Dualist and broadly Christian sympathies: 15-19

Atheist leaning Agnostic with primarily Catholic and broadly Christian sympathies: 19-now

I cannot convince myself to believe, but I fully support Christendom's efforts against secularism. I hold Atheism to be true, but a truth that is not useful may as well remain unknown.

f9c2a8  No.788261



bb46bd  No.788327


>I'd encourage you to contemplate and pray about this deeply. Being involved with a community and under the guidance of a church is essential to one's spiritual journey.

I appreciate the concern and advice. I will do so.. and honestly, I have. It seems that I'm constantly asking God lately in particular.

That said, I think we've always had elements that separated. Not just the church with it's hermits and desert dwellers.. but also in Israel. There is the tradition of the shepherd - the wanderer.. and the farmer - the man of civilized community. After Moses, it extended to inward turning prophets and the outward focused Levites. Not to say I'm a prophet though! By no means. Just that Imaybe I'm still safe standing a bit on the outskirts. It's not necessarily by choice though.. I don't say this out of pride. I don't always like it, and wish I fit in somewhere. At least from time to time.

This is a nice thread btw. I know we all don't agree on many details, but I like hearing your stories.

718815  No.788335


>baptized and raised eastern orthodox

>agnostic at age 12

>atheist at age 13

>switched between the two for 3 years due to lack of hope in humanity

>sort of went back to orthodox at age 17, though am still nihilistic, doubtful, and depressed

>still orthodox at age 19

Pretty much me right now.

42f1cf  No.788350

File: 65451473159a9cc⋯.jpg (108.68 KB, 1080x1281, 360:427, 1553451249104.jpg)

>Dad's a pagan

>mum is Catholic

>born berber

>become a hedonist at age 17

>become a father by this time

>later become a Manichaeist cause why not

>fast forward 15 years

>break-up with my gf and abandon my son

>prepare myself to marry new heiress, but she's 2 years away from being legal (she was 10)

Hebephilia isn't pedophilia okay ?

>fast-forward some years

>break up engagement and become celibate

>fast forward some years

>move to Italy and get introduced to works of plotinus

>mfw at this moment I feel euphoric

>begome gadolig

>shitpost irl about donatist and dualist

>shitpost soo hard that I became a bishop

>be me

>be Augustine

394c59  No.788383


Come on anon, you can't say you got a literal demon and not tell the story

2b5e99  No.788388


ikr? where's the demon story anon

684199  No.795955

>raised nonreligious but felt intuitive connection to God

>atheist at 10

>"spiritual" at 13

>gnostic occultist at 15

>started looking into Christianity at 20

>currently looking to take the jump at 22

2b37d3  No.795959


>Raised protestant

>Never became an athiest but fell for leftwing memes like 'islam is peacefull terrorists are extremists" also didn't know how to answer fedora fag memes like "Christianity ripped off other religions"

>browse 8chan and find this board

>Get's redpilled on why leftwing and fedora fag propaganda is trash

Feels good

537d38  No.795960


Still prottie or convert?

2b37d3  No.795963


>Still prottie

More or less yeah. I might be non-denominational or something.

d59560  No.795977

Guess I'll do it

>raised "Catholic" in a family that didn't care at all about religion

>abandon faith at 9-10

>apatheist until 17

>come back to Catholicism, novus ordo/prottie LARP type at 18

>abandon faith at 20-21, crushed by scrupulosity basically (I have OCD and Asperger's)

>become redpilled on /pol/

>come to the intellectual realization that Catholicism is the ultimate redpill through reason and observation

>looking to make the leap to traditional Catholicism, but still hesitant because of OCD stuff that made me miserable a couple of years ago

Pray for me, I'm about to jump back into it but something's holding me back.

9af46b  No.795989

File: 75fdb24c5111741⋯.jpeg (25.8 KB, 282x252, 47:42, 6916695B-9B33-4F63-8DAC-7….jpeg)

Mine’s really exciting:

>raised Protestant in Nazarene church

>go to Southern Baptist church now

>do traditional kid things while there like going to church camp and vbs sometimes

>questioned stuff (atheism)

>found this board

>questioned more stuff (denominations)

>grew in my faith as a result

>mfw I realize that this board is the one thing that separates my spiritual journey from others’ (not trying to complain- it’s better than nothing but still a pretty ordinary/ cliche modern day prot’s journey)


I know that feeling man. I go through the same thing. Just know that those thoughts are of no value to you and that they shouldn’t stop you from doing what God tells you to. I’ll be praying for you

9af46b  No.795990


>go there now

What I mean to say is that I transferred there when I was like in 5th grade, (hence the kid stuff) and I’ve been there since. Figured I’d clarify before people started saying that I was underage

2745ad  No.796035


>reject NO

You're not a Catholic. Stop false flagging, Baptist.

2549b4  No.796038


>Grew up in an atheist household

>/x/ tier paranormal experiences

>Put grandfather's icon of Jesus in my room

>/x/ tier paranormal experiences stop

>Secret faith in Christ since then

>Grandfather was a part of the Catholic Church, so I attended the RCIA program

>Now a Traditionalist Catholic

>Laugh at S*d*v*c*nt*sts.

be8766  No.796056

>raised Methodist

>go to church nearly every Sunday until I graduate high school

>stop going in college but still called myself Methodist

One thing to note is that I almost never read the Bible or prayed outside of church all those years

>move to go to a different school, decide to go to church again

>Methodist churches here are gay-loving left-wing propaganda spreaders

>randomly go to an Orthodox Church out of almost pure frustration with Western Christianity

>never left

>read the Bible and pray daily, as well as attending as many weekday services as possible

Last weekend marked one whole year in the Church.

537d38  No.796096


Prottie and non-denom overlap to a certain extent.

Either way, welcome aboard.

a520a1  No.796099

File: a3cd52a44233654⋯.jpeg (18.93 KB, 480x340, 24:17, 0E11D83C-4625-4AC7-B72F-2….jpeg)


NO is such cancer don’t even try to defend this blasphemy. Just become orthodox already.

828da4  No.796189

>raised a Moonie ("Unification Church")

>atheist at 12

>agnostic at 13

>wannabe Gnostic at 14

>grew out of it rather quickly

>begome'd ordodogs at 16

f95043  No.796232


>which church is true

Please dont tell me that you're actually talking about different autocephalous churches

230eed  No.796245


Would you like 3 marriages and birth control with that faith

5cd608  No.796380

>i guess orthodox by form until 15,16

>new age and occult until 18

>orthodox till 19

>not orthodox any more and I can't go back

>very sad

9af46b  No.796393


Baptists will always welcome you, no matter your past

cf375a  No.796450


>not orthodox any more and I can't go back

Why not?


No one needs the breakaways of the breakaways of the breakways of the breakaways(im not exagerating) of Apostolic Christendom.

e0de07  No.796499


You’re just afraid of going back. This is pride.

e0de07  No.796508

d59560  No.796581


Yeah, I see. I think I'll go talk to a priest soon enough. I'm really torn, and it's hard to describe how I feel. Deep down I really want to come back to Christ, but I still remember the pain of religion-induced OCD, the anxiety and everything that came with it. It made me really miserable. I'm trying to fight it though, I really am. I'm a winnie the pooh-up and an introvert but I'll go talk to somebody. I feel like I really need it.

f72a68  No.796658


>pope lets priests forgive the grave sin of abortion in the confessional

>somehow equivalent to orthos allowing remarriage and contraception

032f8a  No.796684


>>agnostic at 13

>>atheist at 14

>>gnostic occultist at 15



Is it wrong that I think occultist are less cringeworthy than atheists?

532145  No.796711

>raised in a soft baptist household, very little interaction with any church except on the rare occasion my aunt would take me to sunday school

>turned away from God due to my lack of conceptual understanding and the void offered to me by those in my family who would be interested in my spiritual growth

>the concept of the afterlife I was equipped with seemed boring to me in a very Letters from the Earth way

>felt guilty even as a child for abandoning God, asked for forgiveness that I was abandoning Him even though I was courting atheism

>came to forget my guilt as I became a teenager, focusing on earthly matters and pleasures

>became entirely atheist, though never supreme fedoralord tier

>spent the majority of my teenage years atheist and under the heaviest spells of degeneration

>developed a yearning to understand Truth as I studied mathematics in university

>pursued this yearning with passion, gorging myself on philosophy and then psychology

>came to understand the futility of my nihilism and the infinity of potential which exists beyond the boundaries of perception through the Transcendental philosophy of Kant

>came to understand the foundations of the perceptions of divinity through Jungian psychology

>finally read the Bible for the first time, with eyes equipped to understand

>converted myself to an unstructured Christianity where I still am today

I've been a Christian for about 6 months now. I've converted a friend of mine recently which has been fantastic, though I feel like I am lacking a disciplined understanding of Christianity other than what I have learned from the Bible in my own way. I have never been baptized, though I wish to be soon. I've had waking visions of a baptism by Christ (and many other visions, all of them religious since my conversion) in times of great anxiety which have left me eager to sanctify my awakening through the ritual.

My conversion has permanently changed me in ways I never thought possible. I have found a wellspring of infinite depth from which to draw strength. I have become a patient man, though prone to err in my journey along the narrow path. The most important thing I've learned in all of this is that there is a pathway I can take to better myself in every choice I make.

a2f1a5  No.796735


>raised Orthodox

>atheist at 14-15 (but personally even before)

>became Objectivist at 21

>looked into Satanism/Occultism/Transhumanism until I realized how extremely evil it actually is, and that it is the ideology/religion of the people who are responsible for all the wars in the world - Talmudism and Satanism being pretty close to one another

>back to Orthodox at 26

Nothing like a good scare of the Devil to put back your faith into God.

cedf08  No.796748


LARPagans are even worse. At least fedoras are honest about not giving a damn about God. Pagan LARPers not only insult Christ, by they also pretend worshipping semen-drinking homosexual deities is based and redpilled in the year of our Lord 2019. They're atheistic nihilists in denial, they don't really believe in all of the pagan mythology, even LARPagan supreme Varg said so.

130297  No.796887

>be """"""""""baptized"""""""""" as a baby as liethuran

>when I get a laptop read the Bible, though it was Non Inspired Version (NIV), until around Acts

>Watch a movie in history class about Luther which gets me more interested in religion

>check this board sometimes

>someone on /pol posts a link to Pastor Vitamin K's, Bible way to heaven video

>get saved

>switch to KJV

Start going to an Independent, tempramental fundamental right-wing radical chicken eatin Baptist church

>Get baptized on 3-4-18

2cd513  No.796919

>Go through the motions of Sunday Catholic Mass during childhood

>Uncaring regarding religion during teenage years

>Start browsing /fringe/ at 21 and practise meditations for self-improvement

>Psychosis hits me at 25

>Try to resolve it through occult means

>All fail (except the one where you call upon Satan but I didn't want to go that far)

>Turn to God

>God helped me in my struggle when I asked for help

>God even intervened at one point and heavy-handedly suppressed my ability to think unless I came up with a solution he approved of

>God healed my brain when I was on the brink of having a psychotic break (I felt the restoration)

>Catholic now

935ffb  No.796921

>raised agnostic

>atheist during a mayor part of my life (9-16)

>was agnostoc for a while

>now I am a practicing Catholic looking for a church that does the Latin Mass and has mostly Spaniards

funilly enough it also coincided with my race realism/fascism realization

8b1054  No.796929

File: f9781bfed283503⋯.jpg (58.91 KB, 499x499, 1:1, 1467604642503.jpg)

>raised protestant (Baptist)

>agnostic at 13

>atheist at 14

>agnostic at 19

>catholic at 21

8b1054  No.796930

File: efa5b6f8cc7c7c4⋯.png (217.33 KB, 317x499, 317:499, ClipboardImage.png)


Begome gadolic

Read Chesterton

a1e95c  No.797176


I'm so glad to see native americans (that sounds like an american story) adopting the Orthodox faith and actually integrating it into american culture and lifestyle: something the other ethnic churches are not doing as actively. Just don't go too far (some converts do that sometimes and it's a sorry sight) and you'll receive a blessing not only on you but on your family as well for taking the cross when the world rejected it.

f57999  No.797232

Raised lukewarm Christian, become an atheist "intellectual" around 13, had sex at 16 and got pregnant and had an abortion, super depressed for 4 years just party and drinks and am a thot consider suicide but way too scared of dying to do it, met the guy who I got pregnant with by random chance. He had been super depressed about the abortion as well (he agreed to it). We start dating again and become interested in spiritual things due to psychedelic drug use but are still both "intellectuals." Still depressed but super liberal so don't know why. We try to have another baby but think I must be infertile because we try for a whole year and nothing which makes us more depressed. We don't believe in marriage. We end up going to a retreat with Catholic monks and volunteering. They planted some seeds in our heads by answering questions about the Bible that were blocks for us. We start reading the Bible and God just came to both of us. When we both finished reading it we were new people literally. Stopped having sex, stopped doing drugs. We both changed our majors from liberal arts to nursing and agriculture. Got married a year later and found a church that wasn't a money-making megachurch with liberal pastors. We thought I would still be infertile but got pregnant the first month we were married. Had a perfect baby boy which pretty much cemented both of our faith. Babies are living proof of God and forgiveness. Got a farm and house. Life is going so smooth.

a1e95c  No.797237

File: ff95b231b304bc2⋯.jpg (15.49 KB, 184x174, 92:87, chick_pepe.jpg)


Based and redpilled. God bless you and your family.

bf2130  No.797281


what kind of /x/ tier experiences did you have anon? please tell

38bfd8  No.797301

File: 3619968f0f3543f⋯.jpg (102.97 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, charlie.jpg)

>raised agnostic with a very, very heavy atheist leaning

>dabbled in nondenominational Christianity in college while going through a rough time, but my heart wasn't in it

>started taking Christianity more and more seriously around late 2017, early 2018

>finally saw an infographic that got me down the Christian rabbit hole, researched Christian answers to common problems like why does evil exist, blah blah blah

>Orthodoxy kept making the most sense to me

>Reformed theology still kinda made sense too though

>Catholicism also made sense, but Papal supremacy (yes, even when in ex cathedra) killed it for me. That just makes zero sense to me at all.

>Came down to traditional Lutheranism, reformed, or Orthodox

>Orthodox arguments against TULIP seemed to make sense

I'm attending an Antiochian Orthodox parish right now. I have to admit, it does still make the most sense, however I still have very big problems with the concept of human free will, which would put Reformed theology back in front, since it seems to deny it. Also the singing and stuff during the service seems quite unnatural to me, it just seems like it wasn't meant to be sung in English (I'm from the Ozarks region, pretty hillbillyish). I do still respect traditional Lutheranism, Reformed, and the Wesleyans, and am tempted to dive into those theologies more at times. I'm also worried about putting my potential future kids into a religion that is so small in America, compared to the Catholics and Protestants.

pic related, me, trying to figure this stuff out

cf0fa7  No.797305

File: 3016ced6e970929⋯.png (6.98 KB, 191x263, 191:263, 0d48435ce99dbc9c0fb9aa109f….png)


what about papal supremacy makes no sense, seems pretty simple if you ask me dawg.

38bfd8  No.797309


I should say, Papal Infallibility is what makes no sense. If you are Catholic, than Papal Supremacy of course makes sense.

bf2130  No.797906


>You have Asperger syndrome.

have you tried praying to saint thorlak?

Helps me A TON

a3ea19  No.797911



Seconding this, would love to hear

a3ea19  No.797916

File: 2d92193643811f8⋯.jpg (75.48 KB, 618x741, 206:247, apu jesus.jpg)


Also I guess I'll post my story:

>Grandparents were devout Irish and German Catholics when they raised my parents, but not so much anymore

>Parents are pretty much non-religious, basically just "Easter and Christmas" Christians

>Went to an Episcopalian private school until 1st grade

>Went to a Methodist church on Easter and Christmas only after that, eventually stopped going entirely

>21 now, looking into Orthodoxy and Catholicism but can't decide

Also I had an experience two nights ago that was pretty crazy.

>I was coughing up blood in my saliva and my chest hurt and I had trouble breathing, along with throat pain

>Could have possibly been an allergic reaction, but I'm not aware of any specific foods that I'm allergic to, never had a problem before

>Think it could possibly be lung/throat cancer, I used to smoke sometimes back in my teenage years

>Completely friendless since junior year of high school, never had sex or a serious gf, have been depressed for years and was indifferent to dying, but actually being put into a position where I have to face my own mortality sent me over the edge

>Cried for the first time in years

>Got on my knees next to my bed and made an attempt to pray and repent for my sins, asked God if he would give me more time to live so I can find a wife and raise our children in his name

>Instantly start to feel better

>Symptoms completely disappear when I wake up the next morning

Could have been some freak allergic reaction, but the timing seems too good for something like that.

What do you guys think?

366afc  No.797942


Sounds like the demons had to stop harassing you when you turned to God.

bf2130  No.797957

9af46b  No.797958


And that my friend, is an awesome miracle!

c10d56  No.797975

>rised in a mainly Communist area of Italy;

>mom family is “docile Catholic’s”, even if very devout “, dad family is old fashioned Stalinists;

>truly prideful of being Christian until I end up becoming an outcast and outsider to all the youth because of that: girls even turn me down because I’m Christian;

>slowly but surely drift towards the “group of the exiled, outcasts and weirdos”: first interactions with broken people, like homosexuals and furries;

>having a very emotional personality and listening to such sad stories of abuses, broken families, mental and physical issues, I get drawn into their circles, whilst still retaining some of my Christian roots;

>in 2011 “fall in love” with an American furry, he openly says he would like for the two of us to “meet”;

>as starved for human contact and anything close to “love” as possible (parents were busy rising all my young siblings), rush to the opportunity and in a few months all the savings are spent in passport, visa and tickets/hotels;

>once there, spend close to a month in the guy’s arms, for once feeling something I never felt, despite knowing how wrong all this is;

>after coming back home, reluctantly go to confession…deep inside knowing the temptation will only grow;

>2013, the American guy tells he has now a boyfriend would like for the three of us to go to London, UK, to work…affair, use all the money to move there: he, however, can’t due to family issues…dream of him in such an intense way I almost have a stroke;

>see all this as God giving me another chance…go back to church and finally start to get over my SSA issues;

>2014, the real watershed moment: roommate rapes me, for 4 months the brain goes in full denial, until the dam breaks and all the pain and tears flood over me;

>since then, turned into a lukewarm Christian who did some awful things: got drunk and forced a girl I just met to kiss me, then started to flirt with an 18 years old guy who is in the furry community.

I am trying to get out of there, it the endless well of sorrow I see compels me to stay, and try to help even if I get dragged in all kind of sins. Please understand that those people, most of them, are broken people in need of love and settling for the closest thing they can handle as that: I am one of them.

6e9672  No.809256

>gran told me Bible stories as bedtime stories, not much more than that (Noah's Ark, etc.)

>watched Veggietales growing up. Idk if it was the legit version or the censored TV version

>When I was 9 I started praying. Did it in secret because I was a little embarrassed. We didn't go to church or anything.

>When I was 12 my mom started becoming more Christian

>when I was 14 my dad went through severe mental issues, he became Christian (my mom makes it out like he was agnostic before. I was too young to really notice.)

>when I was 16 I went to church for the first time

>decidedly protestant

>19 and still protestant, interested in Eastern Orthodoxy

da05f5  No.809258


I pray for you, Anon. Stay strong for us.

d3e3a4  No.809261

File: 5391317f7abb8ec⋯.jpg (69.1 KB, 350x350, 1:1, 1535186556743.jpg)

>raised agnostic with heavy atheist leanings

>flirted with nondenominational Christianity in college at 18-19, along with Buddhism (lol)

>went nowhere, gradually returned to agnosticism and apathy with bouts of atheism

>at 27, read an infographic on /pol/ that made a lot of sense to me and put together a lot of pieces of Christ that I didn't understand, got back into Christianity, joined an Orthodox Church, became a catechumen

>left after a year due to theological disagreements and generally being unsatisfied with Orthodoxy

>leaning heavily Protestant now at 28, still have some Orthodox sympathies though

People were not happy when I left the Orthodox church I was going to. They were a weird, aggressively superior bunch. They shat on Protestantism all. the. damn. time. Which turned me off in a very major way, not the least of which because they kept getting Protestant arguments flat out wrong. To say nothing of the just general un-Christlikeness of it.

Now I really am just searching and reading as much as I can. Don't really belong to a church and don't intend on formally joining one anytime soon.

6a3b30  No.809377



I enjoyed this anon. Thank you, God bless you and that Jewish convert Priest.

I love Jewish converts more than anything else.

e3dd3f  No.809395

> raised Catholic in a Puritan area

> fedora by 14

> always fascinated by Christianity, occasionally consider going back

> 30s, nondenominational

78ecdd  No.809641




>Have left Orthodoxy after becoming disenchanted with the Pharisaical unmercifulness of the upper echelons of the leadership in general, the worldliness of the parishioners, the emphasis on tradition, ritual, and cultural identity over Christly living, and the ridiculous amounts of cognitive-dissonance I had to engage in, in order to rationalize the crypto-paganism, crypto-works based salvation, and various other just flat out insanely extra-biblical doctrines (i.e. toll houses, 40 day ritual and then particular judgement, the fast isn't salvific and is just for spiritual training….but you can be denied communion if you don't do it plus toll house/particular judgement aerial demons can totally drag you down to hell for that, plus being able to pray people out of hell in a manner that comes off as "Purgatory: Orthodox Edition", etc.)

>This drives me to investigate Protestantism further.

>M. Night Shyamalan plot tweest: upon doing further research, the Protestants were right all along, and I realize that I didn't truly give them a fair shake, nor truly understood them after-all.

>Currently in the process of becoming Baptist.

bf2bb7  No.809804


>raised catholic

>le confused atheist at 9

>deist by 15

>notice world going to shit because of socialism and nihilism. thanks karl marx

> at 18 it was very obvious marx was a satanist / luciferian. thanks internet

>i already hated marx so i figured id be the exact opposite of him now (other factors led me to do this too like hating hook up culture)

>i return to Christianity and start studying the bible. also start nofap

i dont know if picking a religion based off of hatred for something else is honorable but i guess the enemy of my enemy is my friend. i really do like being christian. feels much better than when i was nihilistic. can someone help me choose what sub religion to pick? orthodoxy seems pretty popular here.

78ecdd  No.809814


>can someone help me choose what sub religion to pick?

A lot of reading (i.e. the Bible; Early Church writings; books, websites, Study Bibles, etc. slanted toward a particular denomination so that you can understand their doctrine, theology and exegesis/eisegesis of the Bible.):


A lot of visitations; attend multiple churches of various denominations; judge them by their fruit (i.e. the general character of the pastors/priests, parishioners, how well does said church match up with Biblical doctrine, etc)

The sad truth is everyone who leans towards a denomination, including me, is going to try to nudge you in that direction. But you're honestly better off investigating and figuring out things on your own and coming to your own conclusions while doing the aforementioned, and praying to God on this matter without ceasing.

The sad truth is that the time when you could just hear the gospel, and just jump into baptism just like that seems to be a distant memory. Unfortunately, nowadays, there are too many false prophets; too many wolves in sheeps clothing; churches that tell you to just shut your brain up and just trust their authority; churches that specifically prey on the human desire for an emotional/spiritual "high"…. if God wills it, you more than likely will have to become somewhat of an amateur theologian in order to be truly confident in your faith.

Read, Test the churches, and most of all: Pray. Pray with all your might and all your sincerity to Almighty God, that He may lead you to his one True Truth.

38bfd8  No.809870


This is basically me, anon, except I havn't found a particular Protestant denomination I really agree with yet.

But being a catechumen myself has been an eye opening experience for me. I'm glad I did it, but damn does Orthodoxy take extra-biblical stuff to a level I don't think even Catholics would be ok with if they knew the true depths of it.

d8e85f  No.809907


Gonna get banned probably, but here it comes:

> born Orthodox

> at age 7 realize I'm afraid of God's wrath, end up praying every evening before sleep saying "God you aren't an idiot, and I love you a lot"

> don't doubt God's existence until 14-16, a guy memes me into becoming atheist (I literally based my belief on memes)

> between 16 and 18 I pretty much call myself a deist/atheist

> at 19 I call all people who believe in God retards, and publically reject them. I literally told people "sorry I don't think I want to speak to you, you're Christian and that's delusional

> somewhere here I almost sell my soul to the devil (didn't cut my finger to get blood, but not sure whether it was legit), also said Shahada as a joke

> at 20-21 start searching for spirituality, I even try buddhism, meditating often and shaving my head as well as offering food to spirits according to buddhist rituals

> at 21 start realizing that belief is not that irrational as some smart people were Christians as well, get rebaptized as a joke, or so my friends thought (I acknowledge only one baptism - the one when I was a child). Join Lutheran Church, as I agreed with many of their points (not woman priests or gay marriage though).

> decide on studying theology to know Bible better, while I was a semi-Andersonite

> start accepting women as priests

> still conservative on gayhood

> 23 now, will most likely become a priest, as there are few of them in my country. in the recent weeks started supporting gay marriage - I believe that in our decadent society making gays live a faithful to eachother life is the best option. Still believe that the Scripture teaches that homozegz is a sin, but it is the best call in my opinion.

I'm sorry if you disagree with me, this is just who I am, and what I believe. I hope that God is merciful to my soul if I'm wrong

78ecdd  No.809926


> start accepting women as priests

Time and time again, this is one of the first camel's noses in the tent that starts the slippery slope to compromise, heresy and apostasy….

>Still believe that the Scripture teaches that homozegz is a sin, but it is the best call in my opinion.

<God says homosexuality is a sin. So let's corrupt his church, body and doctrine further by making this sin more legitimate and acceptable.

I love you anon, in Christly love….but I honestly have no words.

993aab  No.820098


>Raised Catholic

>Atheist at 13

>Deist at 16

>Almost becoming a JW

>Ended up joining the Catholic Church

>Almost 17 and still a Catholic

8421a3  No.820105


Good job avoiding the JW trap and welcome home. Their whole thing is disclaiming much of the supernatural/hard-to-understand (the trinity, for instance) and going "All that other stuff doesn't make sense".

8421a3  No.820107

>raised a JW

>broke out at 16 due to incontrovertible evidence they were lying about some stuff (jw's think the united nations is of satan, evidence came out they were involved with the UN, they denied it)

>spend the next 11 years floating, getting involved in the occult, accidentally found out I can read tarot cards

>turn into an edgelord

>sadness and misery

>stumble onto fisheaters.com

>actually start studying up on catholics


>stumble onto /christian/ and /rel/


>enroll in RCIA


411ac3  No.820130

Raised atheist, drawn towards zen Buddhism as a child, briefly dipped into Hinduism, settled as a holistic non-materialist agnostic for years. Started begoming more sympathetic towards Christianity but didn't know whether to be Ortho or Cath. Discovered TradCats which have all I need. Still uncertain about baptism because here in Germany nearly all (but not all) priests teach open heresy and I need a SD that's orthodox in his beliefs.

Now going to ask SSPX to catechize me privately. In before "but anon, they are in schism!" - no you dweeb, the priests in my country are, agitating for female priests, married priests after divorce, homomarriage, etc. If the only place I can find TLM and solid doctrine in my country is SSPX I'm afraid it's not up to me. Be happy I'm trying to learn at all.

0e2069  No.820132


convert here; why defend the new mass?

bf2130  No.820154


It may be a stupid question, but why not Poland? I know its not Germany but I THINK they may have what you need

f7d9b5  No.820187


You wrote this exact thing before in a different thread. What would you have me do, move to Poland? If I were to move I would move to Hungary because my dad is Hungarian.

33d0de  No.820194


The Cathpocalypse (the subversion of Catholicism in the West) is actually quite sad. Most Caths I know are assimilated into Americanism aka the culture of mammon worship.


He's German, not Polish. I guess he could move to Ostpreußen but I'm not sure there are any Germans left there anymore. Culture and ethnicity we should all hold dear.

fc0231  No.820195

File: 15527512534fc2b⋯.jpg (90.43 KB, 749x799, 749:799, traditionalmassbackonit.jpg)


Most only have the NO near them/are raised with the NO, so there is a kind of personal attack they feel when someone goes after it. You can make the NO look like a Tridentine Mass anyways. Also the people at the Tridentine Mass tend to be more devout.

0e2069  No.820224


i grew up prot. it's not a good enough reason to defend bad intentions. i'm trying to convert my prot family on the regular, and i've got to convince them what they've been practicing since birth is some cult offshoot from the true Faith.

if they wanted to convince me to go to the new mass over the Tridentine Mass what would be their arguments?

95e920  No.820515

File: 567d3a519fe786b⋯.jpeg (527.55 KB, 800x1111, 800:1111, Transfiguration_by_Feofan….jpeg)

>born orthodox

>raised orthodox

>get more serious about it at like 15 years old

>still serious about it

221fbb  No.820535


>Baptized as Catholic

>Never confirmed but catholic dad would take me to mass every now and then.

>Mom is a Protestant who had me listen to evangelical stuff. Also had me go to a youth session at a Pentecostal church that was popular in the area.

>Never really understood the difference besides one looked "cool and trendy" the other strict.

>Became an atheist in my teens but not an edgy fedora since the times I went to church whether RCC or Prot, goers seemed like good people.

>Get into college and become agnostic deist. Know that there is a divine power but can't say for sure it's God.

>Get really depressed and self abusive during college and drop out. Party life and consumption was horrible. A friend back home was going to church more and reading the bible, telling me this without any knowledge of my situation.

>Start reading and finally get a sense of purpose and peace.

>Start researching Prot groups, RCC, and Orthodoxy.

Plan on going through confirmation, I'm just nervous if my schedule would allow for the 10 or so months of RCIA.

933604  No.820536


That's pretty close to what I went through, but with catholicism. I'm still looking for a good Baptist church to belong to at the moment but things are going well otherwise.

c60ffe  No.820541

File: 503371295c05fe0⋯.jpg (137.86 KB, 746x736, 373:368, hermes_mercurius_trismegis….jpg)

>Raised "non-denom". Distant family is Catholic but we never go to church growing up unless we're visiting family. Really don't talk much about religion at home

>Step dad is ardent Atheist

>Fluctuate between Agnosticism and Atheism at various points through adolescence

>Start getting into New Age and Gnostic stuff

>Move out at 18, go full Taoist

>Gradually shift to Confucianism

>Always kind of into Gnostic and Hermetic stuff but never understood what was so special about Jesus

>Discover /christian/ in it's early days when "Gnostic Christians" were still openly posting

>Watch them get BTFO by Christians and hear actual explanations for taglines you always hear like how he died for our sins

>Deploy to Europe a couple years ago

>Start going to Mass with by unit's Padre

>Ask him about Catechism

>We decide I'll start RCIA when we get home

>We start one on one meetings

>He gets posted away six months after we get home, so I finish RCIA with the local parish

>Baptized January this year

God Bless this board. Who would have known an imageboard would bring so many to Christ.

530ac2  No.820543

6f73bf  No.820544

Can someone explain to me the OP picture? Thanks in advance.

245ee7  No.820554


Just a crap meme comparing Braptists to Sonic (the orginal) and Catholics to Shadow (the copycat). Study history and you will see why it is crap.

245ee7  No.820555

Get steal lol

0bd9eb  No.820591

>grow up in protestant church in a sea of Catholics

>parents don't really teach me much so I identified as "some sort of Christian"

>move to globohomo country (US)

>grow up surrounded by constant anti Christ propaganda

>by teenage/college years, never stopped identifying as a Christian, but in practice I was constantly moving between new age horsepoop and "Christian agnostic" because I read about it in Wikipedia and it sounded good

>basically promise God that I would submit to Him if college went well

>He took it seriously

>my first job out of college was under a guy who was an elder at his church

>he basically gave me the resources to answer everything I was thinking about for years but didn't have the education/drive to look for

>joined his church

>grow up a ton in Christ

>can genuinely myself a Christian now

>reaching out to my wife's folk religion/, pseudo atheist family successfuly

59a12a  No.821137

File: f1ea86691e13f80⋯.jpeg (50.23 KB, 689x500, 689:500, 426DD8BD-CE7A-473C-BB74-9….jpeg)

>raised vaguely baptist

>church hopped (different protestant churches) in the Tennessee/Kentucky with my parents in my elementary school years, not really finding any good ones; most were either Pentacostal-esque or big mega churches (this was back when televangelism was in-vogue)

>eventually move to home state of Virginia (8-9 y/o now)

>get baptized in family baptist church and start attending church there for the rest of my dependent years

>100-year old historical black church in the countryside of VA; comfy and traditional

>liked the focus on scripture and praise, didn’t like the uncomfortably close dips into Pentacostalism (some church goers would occasionally try speaking in tongues, though it was largely frowned upon; the Pastors would “get the Holy Ghost” and shout and stomp during their sermons, etc)

>in middle school and high school, attend a private protestant Christian school

>non-denomination, but old-school

>learn a lot about scripture through Bible classes and made the decision to get saved (really, more like a Confirmation than anything) after a particularly emotional sermon from a pastor at the school about “reaching for the Savior” in everything we do

>go really hard into learning more about scripture and start getting into online debates with atheists and LGBT (this was mid-2000s); learned apologetics and about where atheists and LGBT are coming from

>graduate and go to Liberty University where I continued to build on my knowledge of scripture with more Bible courses and Theology courses

>get exposed to contemporary non-denomination churches and start to like the worship and sermons a lot

>my family back at home has a falling out with our family church involving a lot of petty jealousy and egos clashing in the wake of the church pastor dying, leaving a power vacuum; unfortunately has jaded my parents to the point that they barely attend church anymore

>start to grow tired of contemporary worship and see it as nothing more than a concert with a mini-self-help seminar in-between sets

>stick to small groups for a year and am content for a bit before growing tired of the liberalisms that were slipping into the way things were done (inevitable when you have a bunch of 20 something y/os with worship degrees running things)

>graduate and enter the military; leave for Ft Leonard Wood, Missouri

>attend a Korean Presbyterian church and loved how stripped down and simple it was compared to my other church experiences; hard to get into due to language barrier

>left and returned to VA and did not attend church for awhile until I went to a mega church in Northern VA

>typical non-denomination church, complete with a conce—I mean worship, self-hel—I mean sermon, and the closing worship; did not like it

>attend a black “baptist” church in southern Maryland; it was mostly using Malachi 3:10 to guilt people into tithing with money

>attend a catholic service in DC

>was blown away at how reverent and quiet the service felt; the homily was concise and to the point without the self-help garbage mantras or the usual “I used to do drugs, then I found Jesus!” story

>felt humbled when I knelt during the eucharist and was in awe at how the sacrament was conducted; was used to it being a very informal and relatively small event during protestant churches

>still not convinced to begome since I had a deeply ingrained distrust for catholicism built over 15 years

>slowly warm up to it as I attend more services

>get married in the catholic church and am inspired by how thorough the priest of our church was in dealing with our pre-marriage counseling and how sacred the sacrament was; no bombastic entrances, no clappistanis, none of the trappings of modern marriage ceremonies; just the sounds of the organ and a crystal clear soprano singer, a relevant and challenging homily about the importance of our marriage in witnessing to Christ, and the solemn ceremony itself

>go through rcri and finally begome

>am still in awe to this day of how I can be in any town and know that I have a good church to go to

fc0231  No.821141


>am still in awe to this day of how I can be in any town and know that I have a good church to go to

Tell that to everyone complaining about "Novus Ordites"…

e7fc74  No.821192

>raised Catholic and attended Catholic middle/ high school

>not very strong in my faith, mostly going through the motions

>parents begin to become more invested in the faith: volunteering for rcia, icons, dad began wearing a scapular

>begin to take it more seriously

>start to dislike feel-good youth group type stuff from our church

>begin to dislike novus ordo

>parents take me to a latin mass, beautiful experience

>consider myself a conservative catholic

>first year of college

>stop going to mass

>see how many people go about life with nothing deeper than money/partying/etc

>protestant evangelical friend and another questioning friend ask me some questions about catholicism

>realise i cant answer all of them and i dont know the faith as well as i should

Where do i start in returning to the church and learning about the faith? I want to know everything i can so that i can actively “debate” my protestant friend and inform my questioning friend as correctly as possible.

4a942d  No.821199


Denzinger, Erick Ybarra, Bishop Williamson, and the Catechism of the Council of Trent are all edifying.

933604  No.821209


Learn about apologetics from both sides, pray, and see side God pulls you to. That's what I did and I've never been stronger in my faith than I am now.

52f0b4  No.821524


>apostate to religion of apostate killers

>converts to religion of proselytizing martyrs


Breh meme occultists are boring for jackin' it to Harry Potter, it took some balls for you to go to church

b1cfea  No.821699

File: 0700873600010ac⋯.webm (Spoiler Image, 7.63 MB, 464x447, 464:447, Αγνή Παρθένε Δέσποινα.webm)


>secular fam


>believe in gnostic demiurge around age 22

>get into the occult at around age 28

>always irked me how occultists didn't care about summoning demons or going to heaven or hell

>start praying out of pure desperation

>decide to go to orthodox church and ring the number but never get through (later realise a demon hung the phone up once)

>winnie the pooh it go to catholic church

>nothing happens until about 7 months in when i notice my prayers being answered

>snap out of the occult and end up in emergency

>get put on anti-psychotics but only take them for 2 weeks

>takes 4 months to get it out of my system and feel normal again

>catholic church isn't doing it for me

>only good thing i see at church is a byzantine icon of mary

>ring the number for the local orthodox church again and finally get someone that tells me when the next liturgy is on

>be around age 30 and go to my first divine liturgy

>instantly realise this is The Church (first thing said to me was "you're in the right place" by an old women)

>still not baptised but see no need to do it straight away (managed to go to one catechism class but got sick and never went back)

fb17cf  No.821705

>born Orthodox

>pray when I was a kid

>Grow up agnostic

>15-ish atheist

>back to being agnostic until 21

>Dabble into Buddhism all of a sudden

>22 back to Christ, really struggling

24 now

b56b99  No.821706

>Raised agnostic

>Self declared atheist at 12-13 though I still believed in some sort of deity

>looked into occultism at 14

>Started to get interested in Christianity at 15

>Converted to Catholicism at 16

>Stopped going to church after I turned 17 for a year

>Recently started going to church, nearly 18.

Also pray that I keep on track lads.

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