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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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1a59a2  No.789191

Baptism, confirmation, eucharist, and reconciliation are mandatory for Catholics. Everyone’s called to do these, you can’t have a “vocation” to not take communion.

On the other hand, not only can you be a good Catholic while not being married or clergy, but also you can’t do both. Shouldn’t you be able, or even required, to do all seven sacraments?

aed852  No.789195

The original priests DID marry. The prohibition against marriage was almost certainly a way to build the wealth of the church


794676  No.789196


f20b48  No.789197

>>789195

Yes. The spiritual wealth of the church :^)


bec71a  No.789198

>>789195

That’s not even the main issue thought. You can’t be a good Catholic and not receive communion. You can be a good catholic and not be married or a clergyman. So how are they sacraments?

I am OP my IP reset


9ef823  No.789200

>>789195

Early in the Church there were problems with nepotism in the selection of Bishops and the fact that small parishes can't really afford to support a priest and his family. That is the practical argument. While it's true that clerical celibacy is a discipline, not a doctrine (set in stone), it is still an important part of the Church, especially when liberals are clamoring to tear it down. What most people don't understand about canon law is that any minister, priest or deacon, married or not, is called to clerical continence (that means no sex at all). I believe when the married diaconate was re-allowed back in the middle of the 20th century, deacons were encouraged to be older since there would be no touchy-touchy with the wife. Wives needed to give their consent to this too. The last thing the Church needs to do right now is give in to the modern idea that sex is paramount. There is also the issue that many parishes are in debt and can barely afford to run themselves, much less support the priest's family.


f20b48  No.789205

>>789200

Deacons don't have sex with their wives? That's kinda weird


a05e82  No.789231

>>789196

>most holy memestery

lol


1ae987  No.789274

The two ordinances are baptism and the Lord's supper.


e0ff74  No.789278

>>789196

cringe


3f763c  No.789280

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>>789191

Roma locuta est, causa finita est


5e2d5f  No.789313

>>789198

Because seven is a nice number. So they included enough things on the list to get to seven.


c57895  No.789441

>>789191

They are sacraments because they were raised to that dignity by Christ. The sacraments of the Old Law were not efficacious for salvation, but the new ones are; marriage and Holy Orders are not necessary for salvation but they do provide sanctifying grace (which is why it’s a mortal sin to contract marriage while you’re in a state of mortal sin!).


510fb9  No.789443

>>789191

Only baptism and the Lord's supper are sacraments


510fb9  No.789444

>>789441

>The sacraments of the Old Law were not efficacious for salvation

Hebrews says they were




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