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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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edf582  No.791786

How is that possible that this pope has way more facility to kiss the feet of muslim african economic invaders than to let devout Catholics kiss his papal ring ?

Is this a clown world seriously ?

He goes out of his way to help people who don't deserve to be helped since they extremely abuse the Catholic generosity and yet, he plays all shy and timid when faced with devout Christians who are dedicated to the Church.

To be honest with you, I find it disrespectful.

3676e5  No.791790

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>>791786

You people over think things too much.

The Pope wanted to prevent an outbreak of the flu.

Now, can we please get over the fact the Pope didn't want his ring kissed?


edf582  No.791792

File: 34b8050781864db⋯.jpg (41.45 KB, 367x613, 367:613, 234e32r.jpg)

>>791790

Was it hygienic to kiss the feet of African people then ?


3676e5  No.791798

>>791792

Thats why the feet were washed before hand, or did you conveniently forget about that?


edf582  No.791801

>>791798

I forgot about that but even then, it's a very unhygienic part of the body, especially since we wear shoes.

Furthermore, it's easy to take a paper and clean the ring between each kisses.


3676e5  No.791803

>>791801

But he didn't have a wet wipe at the time. No sense crying over spilt milk. The past is the past.


5ca9b9  No.791811

>>791803

Sure dude. The Holy Father didn't have a wipe in all the Vatican. The diseased peasants were just reeking of the flu. It's not like Christ embraced the lepe- ah heresy! I've been excommunicated.


5bc9ba  No.791815

So, he was worried about spreading germs.

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5ca9b9  No.791819

File: b838b232731b6b3⋯.jpg (77.13 KB, 600x300, 2:1, Christ_cleans_leper_man-e1….jpg)

>>791815

Again, Francis is nothing like Christ.


34aaf4  No.791830

>>791819

Do you think the Pope is supposed to be the literal Christ?


5ca9b9  No.791838

>>791830

No, I'm just doing a compare and contrast. Look at how he recoils from his own followers.


5bc9ba  No.791841

File: b8f8346db4f2b02⋯.jpg (45.68 KB, 594x413, 594:413, horrified.jpg)

File: 273df98ce7f606a⋯.jpg (57.07 KB, 638x927, 638:927, Recoiling.jpg)

File: 0c6eb861939a230⋯.jpg (27.31 KB, 760x507, 760:507, terrified.jpg)

>>791838

>Look at how he recoils from his own followers.

Yeah … so horrified.


5f3fe2  No.791843

>>791830

>Should the pope follow Christs example?

YES


34aaf4  No.791845

>>791843

How many lepers have you embraced today?


6dd293  No.791862

>>791790

And exactly how many influenza pandemics can be traced back to the Papal ring? Or for that matter any outbreak throughout the history of all the rings?


7fdfb0  No.791864

>>791790

no you retard, he is a vessel with whom the tiggas kiss the ring. It's for the sacraments, you being able to kiss the ring helps with the sins.


e40c77  No.791866

>>791786

>people who don't deserved to be helped

this post was good except for this part


7d59b9  No.791871

File: ec57a09451652e3⋯.jpg (46.33 KB, 700x467, 700:467, 8664252-3x2-700x467.jpg)

>>791864

I know what kissing the ring does, bud.

>>791862

Thankfully, none, thanks to the Pope's discernment.

If you think this is supposed to make me lose my faith in Jesus' Church, you try in vain.


5b094e  No.791878

We have this thread every week, and every week the same things are reiterated:

1. The Pope is not without sin or personal error.

2. The Pope is not, by virtue of his very person, infallible.

3. There have been—and likely will be—worse popes than Francis.

4. The Faith is not represented by the Pope, it is shepherded by him ;the Faith is represented by you and me.

5. God is the supreme leader of the Church.

6. Acts of charity, e.g., washing the feet of the migrants, are a holy obligation which the Faithful must participate in.

6a. The recipient of charity needn't be without sin or personal error.

7. We have a thread for these kinds of petty complaints >>491187


efb648  No.791962

>>791786

It is not "economic invader"

It is simply invader who goes replace europeans. They are fully aware of it. They do it because muh economics too. But their invasion is not about economics in the end.


462db2  No.792942

>>791878

Another Catholic in denial of their own religion. Your pope is actively assisting the genocide of Christians and the destruction of Christendom. Your priests and cardinals are raping children on an industrial scale. There are a higher percentage of homosexuals in your clergy than a leather bar in the Castro. The Jesuits have been kicked out of over 80 nations for plotting against the government.

The Catholic church is evil. It is as far from Christianity as it can possibly get. If you actually loved God, you wouldn't be defending the Roman cult, you'd be warning people to stay away from it


4dc71b  No.795356

File: b139e2ce08096e1⋯.jpg (153.88 KB, 640x960, 2:3, Brap.jpg)


16b1b5  No.795381

>>792942

I guess I gotta convert to Basedtists huh, with the King James Bible who God himself wrote correct?


53928f  No.795400

>kisses feet to beg the Sudanese not to murder each other

I don't know, I'm not exactly certain what's wrong with this? How do Protestants and Orthodox accuse the Pope of being a crazy God-Emperor, but then jeer him when he does acts of tremendous humility? If Francis accomplished cooling relations through this, he's done a palpable act of peace-making.


946b76  No.795468

>>795400

>then jeer him when he does acts of tremendous humility?

Notice how all of these "acts of humility" just happen to have press photographers in attendance? What an odd coincidence!


71420e  No.795484

>>795468

He's a world leader, what's so coincidental about it?


7a02bd  No.795485

>>795400

>>795484

It's sad seeing people rationalize like this… It isn't 2013 anymore, we know what Francis is now.


946b76  No.795487

>>795484

>Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.


eff6f5  No.795504

Virtue signalling isn't humility just like the pope isn't Christian.


c2f0fe  No.795511

>>791786

He's a shill. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if he is an actual satanist..


171758  No.795635

File: 4c66cdea4366a69⋯.jpg (101.52 KB, 640x960, 2:3, 1555051427136.jpg)

>>791786

Why do mods keep deleting this image?


171758  No.795636

>>791798

He is literally kissing their SHOES lmao


53928f  No.795637

>>795468

would you rather have him kiss feet in private?

in any case, there's nothing Francis could do to please you. you're a reviler.


53928f  No.795638

>>795487

so what you're saying is that doing any public acts are null, which isn't what Christ is saying

did Christ sin by healing the sick on the Sabbath?


eec70c  No.795639

Catholics on this board will actually defend this.

I'm a Catholic, and I'm not wondering so much whether or not we should accept this… moreso whether or not a reformative war against the vatican is justified. To say it's been compromised would be like saying porn might be harmful.


53928f  No.795641

>>795639

>Catholics on this board will actually defend this.

13 “You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am. 14 Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet. 15 I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. 16 Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. 17 Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them.

Begone Satan.


171758  No.795642

>>795637

If he stopped facilitating the Islamification of Europe that would please me. God gave us this pagan welcoming, Jewish press fearing cuckold to punish us.


53928f  No.795643

>>795642

Who are you to know the Will of God? At the least, you shouldn't revile a man for following the Word of God, much less the Pope.


946b76  No.795644

>>795637

Yeah, I'm saying that if this had been an act of genuine humility he would have waited to do it until they were in private. "Acts of humility" done in front a camera are rarely motivated by genuine humility, I'm sure you would agree.

>>795638

Jesus didn't go into the synagogue dragging a crowd behind him for the express purpose of showing off.


19ee3d  No.795645

>>791786

Ratzinger is pope until death. This guy here is a sodomite criminal, who harbors child abusers, that were planted to destroy the catholic church. He is fully financed by the jewish mafia to support the invasion wars, create as much confusion in the catholic followers, create hate in all non Catholics, and protect the terrorist state "Vatican City" by being the untouchable mascot for a religious denomination, that was marked for destruction since it's inception, because it was created to oppose jewish crimes. Yet the real criminals on top are not the khazarians, the jews, the fake pope or the pedo monsters…it's the Catholics who let it all happen and still support this nightmare.


eec70c  No.795647

>>795641

Me, Satan… I accuse you of a cowardly, untrue faith


946b76  No.795649

>>795645

Ratzinger covered up for child molesters, too. It's funny that you actually think there are any major differences between post-VII Catholic Popes.


0b5530  No.795650

>>795643

Matthew 23:9

And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.


946b76  No.795651

>>795650

The way they get around this verse is they claim that they are only calling priests "father" in their capacity as substitutes for Christ, so they are actually only calling God father.


0b5530  No.795653

File: 7d35db261232a53⋯.jpg (27.2 KB, 320x240, 4:3, BibleKJV.jpg)

>>795651

I just can't stand to see someone act like they're in the word of God when they are not, like that guy in this thread.


19ee3d  No.795654

>>795649

You misinterpreted my post. I in no way defended Ratzinger or any other pope, they fully deserve capital punishment. What I meant was that one cannot quit being a pope. You also cannot be a catholic without opposing jewish crimes and you can not be a Christian if you put down the old testament. There is only one truth, everything afterwards is based on corruption. That is a sin.


946b76  No.795657

>>795654

>you can not be a Christian if you put down the old testament

Actually the major new trend these days is "Christians" rejecting half the New Testament because they claim Paul was hateful and not Christian for condemning homos.


19ee3d  No.795661

>>795657

It's all heresy. Same with shirking away from your responsibilities by creating new denominations. There is one God, one Cross, and one Bible. Believe it. Live it. Protect it.


d929f0  No.796819

>>791786

Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

>To be honest with you, I find it disrespectful.

Of course you do, Pharisee.


4b52ac  No.796820

>>791786

He needs this erratic behavior in order to mask the pedophile scandal.


b02a31  No.796821

>>791786

All Latins ever want to talk about is the pope.


ce8650  No.799185

>>796821

>all protestants ever do is complain about the Pope

FTFY


ce8650  No.799226

>>791786

you don't have to understand, all you have to do is SUBMIT!


2f2e0c  No.799231

>>795661

Matthew 23:9

And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.


45d484  No.799237

>>799231

>he still calls his Dad, father


bf4cd0  No.799356

>>791786

He spent an hour letting people kiss his ring. I agree that's it's really not a good look getting impatient but let's try to give him his credit.


7d1cf6  No.799452

>>799185

If anything, I'm grateful that we're still at the point where someone like Francis can be the pope. If the average lay Catholic was pope, we'd already have the church ordaining women, doing away with clerical celibacy, permitting contraception and preaching universal salvation


976f08  No.799498

>>799231

>what is context

Christ was simply asking his disciples to be humble, unlike the Pharisees and scribes who sat in Moses' seat, drank the finest wine, wore the finest clothes, and otherwise held themselves in high regard. If we were to be as literal with the following verse, we would call no one on Earth but Jesus Christ "teacher", and yet I don't see Protestants rallying outside of schools with Matthew 23:10 signs.


b0a285  No.799539

>>799237

It says "call no man YOUR father upon the earth", and in the KJV the word "you" is plural, while "thee/thou" is singular. Jesus was talking to "the multitude, and to his disciples" (Matthew 23:1), and because He used the plural form instead of the singular we know that He is talking about multiple people all calling one man who is not their father, "Father" as a title.


89392c  No.799587

>>799539

Yes, father is a title you give to the man that helped make you. If you call your Dad "Father" and not "penis Mommy" you are the highest of hypocrites.


8faa6d  No.799640

File: 4249d9b60d0c30e⋯.png (2.59 MB, 1269x2009, 1269:2009, 1547406795111.png)

>>792942

>He hasn't read After the Ball.

Those child diddling priests are pedophiles. For most of history, there has been no distinction between a homosexual and pedophile.


b0a285  No.799742

>>799587

Ok let me try to explain this again because you obviously didn't get it. Jesus commanded A GROUP to not call one man their collective father. THAT GROUP has one Father who is in heaven, to call a man the father of THAT GROUP would be to put him in the position of God as the Father of a group of people not related by blood. It has nothing to do with calling your biological father by what he is, because in doing so you're not placing him in the position of God you're just calling a spade a spade.


53928f  No.799899

>>799742

Jesus was commanding that God, the Father, be acknowledged separately in His Divine Personhood. It could not be applied to blood-relations, for obvious reasons; neither can we then take your claim because the Apostles themselves frequently referred to their catchumen as spiritual children in the Bible itself.

When Catholics call the Pope Holy Father, they are paying respect to the institution, they are not considering the Pope 1:1 with God, the Father.




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