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bba05d  No.3466

>>>/pol/13196423

Shooting suspect John Earnest

1 Jew dead

Alleged manifesto: https://pastebin.com/VXXFQMTW

Here's what he had to say to us:

<“How can you call yourself a Christian and do this? Surely the Bible calls for you to love your enemies?” Firstly, just because someone calls themselves a Christian does not make them one. Plenty of people wrongfully identify with being Christian. Beyond the scope of time the Father and the Son made a covenant in eternity—that the Son would bring a people to Him that He may be glorified through them. I did not choose to be a Christian. The Father chose me. The Son saved me. And the Spirit keeps me. Why me? I do not know. And my answer to loving my enemies? Trust yids and their puppet braindead lemming normalfags to take one quote from the Bible and grossly twist its meaning to serve their own evil purposes—meanwhile ignoring the encompassing history and context of the entire Bible and the wisdom it takes to apply God’s law in a broken world. Is it lawful to let a thief murder my friend instead of killing the thief to prevent the death of my friend? To ask such a question is to answer it. It is not loving towards your friend to let him be murdered. It is not loving towards your enemy—the thief—to let him murder. A child can understand the concept of self-defense. It is unlawful and cowardly to stand on the sidelines as the European people are genocided around you. I did not want to have to kill Jews. But they have given us no other option. I’m just a normal dude who wanted to have a family, help and heal people, and play piano. But the Jew—with his genocidal instincts—is insistent on poking the bear until it tears his head off. The Jew has forced our hand, and our response is completely justified. My God does not take kindly to the destruction of His creation. Especially one of the most beautiful, intelligent, and innovative races that He has created. Least of all at the hands of one of the most ugly, sinful, deceitful, cursed, and corrupt. My God understands why I did what I did.

Is he right or wrong? Why?

cf97a6  No.3467

>>3466

he is wrong, we don't endorse violence. Everything that can be considered anti-semitic is completely satire. You can leave now fed


bba05d  No.3468

Here's a series of yes/no questions on the topics he's bringing up:

Is violence in self defense biblical?

Is preemptive action of violent self-defense biblical?

Is preemptive action of violent self-defense on behalf of others biblical?

Can the killing of your enemies be biblically justified in light of "love your enemies"?

Is it against God's will for a racial group to be eliminated?

Are the Jews conspiring for the elimination of the white European race?

Here's the most pivotal ends/means question:

If yes to all above, can those Jewish targets at that synagogue be justifiably linked to the existential threat against whites that warrants their attempted execution?


bba05d  No.3469

>>3467

define anti semitism


8155d9  No.3470

>>3468

>Yes

>Yes

>Yes

>Yes

>Yes

>Yes

>No

Guilt is individual because sins are individual. When Sodom and Gomorrah were to be destroyed, God promised to relent if just people could be found, and he spared Lot and his family in spite of their membership of the degenerate city.

Deuteronomy 24:16 NASB — “Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin.


bba05d  No.3471

File: 17c07709b97c630⋯.webm (15.48 MB, 768x432, 16:9, fantaisie impromptu.webm)

Piano performance at 14 years old


ddbf92  No.3479

>Super intelligence

>Musically gifted

>Claims to be influenced by Christianity

>Now will languish in prison or death row

What a stupid waste of life! What a pathetic waste!

>>3468

>Is preemptive action of violent self-defense biblical?

He means pre-emptive as not of immediate and urgent concern. Of course not! You're now in the realm of punishing violent and clearly murderous or subversive men and that's only for the realm of the state, God's earthly avenger.

>Is it against God's will for a racial group to be eliminated?

By whom? For what reason? Still not an individual's right to act as an avenger.

>Are the Jews conspiring for the elimination of the white European race?

Only some Jews, but there's the thing. What is happening to the West is partially the West's fault due to gross apostasy. God is not above using evil people to punish other evil. See the passages in Jeremiah about Assyria as a rabid dog on God's leash. And we already have a clear example of what happens when you try an anti-Gospel, violent en masse solution to rich or intellectual Jews trying to subvert your culture. It didn't end well. Only preaching the Gospel and getting rid of American dispensationalism will help us.

>>3469

Being against Jews as a whole for past sins on their collective part, real or imagined, and focusing on their Jewishness or something about their culture/ethnicity as the main issue.


299a54  No.3487

Also in the manifesto:

<To my brothers in Christ of all races. Be strong. Although the Jew who is inspired by demons and Satan will attempt to corrupt your soul with the sin and perversion he spews—remember that you are secure in Christ. Turn away from your sin. Not because it is required for your salvation—for nobody save Christ can merit heaven based on his own works—but rather out of gratitude for the gift of salvation that your God has given you. Always remember that it is God that is keeping you alive and in faith. All sin stems from the arrogant belief that one does not need God. Satan was so prideful that he actually truly believed (that he, a created being) could overthrow the Ancient of Days—the Creator of all in existence. Satan inspired this rebellion among humanity. Christ alone is the only source of life. Know that you are saved in Christ and nothing—not death, nor torture, nor sin—can steal your soul away from God.


8302a7  No.3490

>>3466

Is it me or is /pol/ shutting down threads on this?


df2450  No.3491

>>3490

they are, theres screencaps of the deleted posts


34d271  No.3497

Reminder that race idolatry is still idolatry.


2d2eb6  No.3500

>>3466

>My God does not take kindly to the destruction of His creation

>My God

A common preface to idolatry these days.


2d2eb6  No.3501

The kid is half jewish btw. He's in the style of Elliot Rogers.


2d2eb6  No.3502

>>3490

>>3491

They're deleting any threads which question the wisdom of mass murder. That board is totally infested and run by wignats.


3444dc  No.3507

>>3479

>Super intelligence

That is doubtful considering what he did.


df2450  No.3512

>>3497

Boring platitude


94a0cb  No.3525

>>3467

While this shooting was wrong violence can be biblical in circumstances look at ecclesiastes 3 for more detail.


ddbf92  No.3531

>>3507

Intelligence =/= wisdom or morality


574b19  No.3535

>>3466

>Beyond the scope of time the Father and the Son made a covenant in eternity—that the Son would bring a people to Him that He may be glorified through them. I did not choose to be a Christian. The Father chose me. The Son saved me. And the Spirit keeps me.

Based and Reformedpilled

>Is he right or wrong? Why?

He is right and this is an act of war, not murder, so it is justified.


2d2eb6  No.3536

>>3535

>act of war

No it's not, it's murder by a newfag who didn't lurk for 2 years before IRL shitposting. War is declared by a nation or state.


574b19  No.3540

>>3536

good goy


751e88  No.3548

>>3535

I agree with the sentiment of opposition to the jew but how can you justify that killing? Isn't it possible that any given Jew in attendance was merely a nominal observer? What if a Jew there was actively arguing against white displacement?


2d2eb6  No.3569

>>3548

>trying to reason with someone advocating murder


457fdc  No.3572

>>3548

>Isn't it possible that any given Jew in attendance was merely a nominal observer?

Yes, and?

>What if a Jew there was actively arguing against white displacement?

please be realistic


3a35ea  No.3611

Apparently his father is president of a conservative Presbyterian church. Anyone know what kind?


70f55b  No.3615

I've been reading De Civitae Dei and I just feel like pasting in this paragraph. Sorry if this seems lazy.

<21. Of the cases in which we may put men to death without incurring the guilt of murder.

However, there are some exceptions made by the divine authority to its own law, that men may not be put to death. These exceptions are of two kinds, being justified either by a general law, or by a special commission granted for a time to some individual. And in this latter case, he to whom authority is delegated, and who is but the sword in the hand of him who uses it, is not himself responsible for the death he deals. And, accordingly, they who have waged war in obedience to the divine command, or in conformity with His laws have represented in their persons the public justice or the wisdom of government, and in this capacity have put to death wicked men; such persons have by no means violated the commandment, "Thou shalt not kill." Abraham indeed was not merely deemed guiltless of cruelty, but was even applauded for his piety, because he was ready to slay his son in obedience to God, not to his own passion. And it is reasonably enough made a question, whether we are to esteem it to have been in compliance with a command of God that Jephthah killed his daughter, because she met him when he had vowed that he would sacrifice to God whatever first met him as he returned victorious from battle. Samson, too, who drew down the house on himself and his foes together, is justified only on this ground, that the Spirit who wrought wonders by him had given him secret instructions to do this. With the exception, then, of these two classes of cases, which are justified either by a just law that applies generally, or by a special intimation from God Himself, the fountain of all justice, whoever kills a man, either himself or another, is implicated in the guilt of murder.


ec4e61  No.3666

>>3611

OPC. Orthodox Presbyterian Church. Small denom of about 30k. I don't know much about the reformed world but it seems tl be a conservative breakaway from PCA (someone correct me if im wrong)


6475ae  No.3670

>>3666

It broke off from the PCUSA not the PCA


55e029  No.3727

>>3666

The OPC is the greatest calvinist denomination ever. You're not lukewarm if you're in the OPC and they clearly, deeply teach systematic theology from the pulpit; from a calvinist perspective.


c9f974  No.3729

File: 88d8506b470f42c⋯.png (644.44 KB, 1023x924, 31:28, earnest jail.png)

WAPO made an article investigating his theology:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190502162217/https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2019/05/01/alleged-synagogue-shooter-was-churchgoer-who-articulated-christian-theology-prompting-tough-questions-evangelical-pastors/?utm_term=.d754a6e44c8c

<The manifesto, which circulated online after the attack and before numerous mainstream social media websites attempted to remove it, reeled off grievances against Jewish people, many of which had little to do with religion. But the writer also spoke of biblical justification and of Christian belief throughout the document. The two main themes were: Jews’ guilt in the biblical narrative, and his own salvation.

<Several pastors said they found the manifesto’s parts about salvation significantly more troubling. Because when it came to what it said about salvation, they agreed with it. “I did not choose to be a Christian. The Father chose me. The Son saved me. And the Spirit keeps me,” the writer said, espousing a Reformed, or Calvinist, theology. He also wrote that his salvation was based not on his actions or lack of sin but on God’s will.

<In the manifesto, “you actually hear a frighteningly clear articulation of Christian theology in certain sentences and paragraphs. He has, in some ways, been well taught in the church,” said the Rev. Duke Kwon, a Washington pastor in the Presbyterian Church in America, another evangelical denomination which shares many of its beliefs with the Orthodox Presbyterian Church.


7a2e06  No.3751

First off, a c*lvinist, just want to say, this is among the logical conclusions of broken theology. Muh "I'm saved already" nonsense which obviates moral responsibility. The Father does not predestine souls as the shooter suggests, this should be obvious from Pauline theology; oddly the same verses which indicate the rejection of the Jews "Now if some branches have been broken off, and you, a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others to share in the nourishment of the olive root, do not boast over those branches. If you do, remember this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you…" Romans (11:17-18) then later "do not be arrogant, but be afraid" Romans (11:20). The bitter fruits of heresy gentlemen.

Second off, and on another level entirely this wouldn't be the first time that Jews and Christians have been at one another's throats. The moral cancer known as blood libel has a long history, the fact that it resurfaced indicates social instability. Blood libel is a known quantity that comes about when people haven't kept their house in order morally, politically and socially. Just another sign that something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

>>3468

>Is violence in self-defence Biblical?

Yes, but this is not an instance of self-defence. Moses slew the Egyptian for beating a fellow Hebrew, Judith slew Holofernes, and David ordered the deaths of those who threatened Susanna all these were instances of justice.

>Is preemptive action in self-defence Biblical?

Preemptive action in self-defence is contradictory.

>Can killing enemies be Biblically justified as loving them?

Warfare, if we are speaking of just war theory, is an unfortunate necessity, but we do not speak of loving the enemy, rather loving the neighbour who is threatened by that enemy. (See Judith and Holofernes, David and Goliath, etc.)

>Is it against God's will for a racial group to be eliminated?

There has never been a 100% successful genocide of a cultural group, even in Joshua, so it would seem that it is against God's will. I think it's more important to note that nobody since has used the book of Joshua for justification of additional genocides, and nobody since has been given a sanction to perform one, so safe to say that the answer is no.

>Are the Jews conspiring to eliminate the white race?

Nice try FBI, but in all seriousness I think Jews and Gentiles misunderstand each other; Gentiles have this view, inculcated in them, that Jews possess some special something, Jews know however that they do not. Regardless of who is right and who is wrong, both sides exist in uneasy tension between Gentile hope and Jewish despair. Both don't understand each other, so both hate each other, but also both mutually fear each other. There is a code of respect you might say, but it can be broken in political turmoils. It's a love-hate relationship. I'm mixed race between them, though a Gentile by Rabbinic law so I've seen both sides and I prefer the hopefulness of Gentiles, but no, except for rare racist Jews, most understandably want to get through life without any Jew-Gentile warfare. They know they would lose due to numbers, and most don't really believe in God enough to interrupt their affairs for religious reasons.


ec7f93  No.3758

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>>3751

>Preemptive action in self-defence is contradictory

Do you wait for a robber to shoot before you're allowed to shoot him?

What if he pointed it at your daughter?




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