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584dc3 No.24144

>flat, clay walls

>low, feature-less buildings

>garish, visually offensive, nasty combinations of blocks

I guess the suburban sprawl that consumed /V/iridian and the rest has finally reached us. I'm not saying that we should have building codes, because that's a can of worms we shouldn't open, but I'm saying that when you make a building, you need to be cognizant of the fact that you are helping to build a city, not just your building. Anything you build should be measured up to the other buildings in town, everything that is made must be in the context of the others.

Immer, I did give the seal of approval for your building, but in retrospect it doesn't fit with the overall 'feel' of Volkstadt. It's not a bad building, it's just...off with the rest of the town. The other buildings pictured are, well, not at all fitting with the town as a whole.

I love the way that Volkstadt is going and I know that people have lots of architectural talent, so I'm not trying to be a dick about this. All I'm saying is, in the future, try to take the whole town into account, please.

584dc3 No.24145

File: 1432411348497.png (344.37 KB, 1366x706, 683:353, 2015-05-23_14.52.34.png)

Immer's build is not garish at all, the colors fit very well together and I appreciated that enormously. It's not a bad building at all, so don't take it like that, please.


584dc3 No.24146

File: 1432411371582.png (564.17 KB, 1366x706, 683:353, 2015-05-23_14.52.51.png)


715f8d No.24153

File: 1432419426024.jpg (54.23 KB, 500x752, 125:188, mfw.jpg)

>>24144

fuck off faggot. As a measure of respect I asked you before I even got started and you said it was fine, I asked if you had any suggestions for alternative blocks and you said no. I suppose you'd prefer I make it from cobble - your self proclaimed favorite block.

>implying the fuhrer needs your approval in the first place.

I really don't see how it stands out poorly in any way - most buildings are made from clay, stone brick and sandstone - I'll be damned if I build another gray stone-brick monstrosity. I'm NOT tearing it down.

>garish, visually offensive, nasty combinations of blocks

>Immer's build is not garish at all, the colors fit very well together and I appreciated that enormously.

so then what the hell is the problem, exactly?

I swear to fucking god between the worthless reichmarks which I opposed (talk about putting all your eggs in one basket, and having the basket stolen) and your reckless demolition of buildings without prior approval (whilst quoting a lame long dead trashman.jpg meme) - its time I put my foot down.

If I say no to something it means NO, not go encourage others to set it up behind my back and guilt me into allowing a trial period, since 'so much work was done already'. Part of having a authoritarian leader means that he has authority. Every difficult major decision falls on my lap and I've done my best to be benevolent, taking peoples hard work and even feelings into account - it's only when I get soft and feel bad for being too much of a 'dictator' that this kind of shit happens.

If you and tigen had listened to me in the first place instead of relentlessly shilling for your pointless paper currency, Volkstadt would still have a treasury. Now it has nothing. Turns out I was right, again.

I am the one in charge of /pol/ynesia and you need to respect that, or you can fuck right back to polandcraft. You're supposed to be minister of infrastructure - how about you finish the fucking railroad?

>>24146

the gas chamber does look like shit though, even for a meme building - but this kind of thing does not require a thread, it is a cowardly put-down and a divisive action.


c6de82 No.24155

File: 1432420089343.png (115.41 KB, 330x357, 110:119, 1420048753544.png)

>>24153

>"Turns out i was right, again"

>Mfw Immer is /pol/ incarnate


477ea7 No.24156

File: 1432420573674.gif (741.62 KB, 300x168, 25:14, hp0RXrG[1].gif)

>>24155

Pic related


890e3f No.24157

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>24153

AND HIS NAME IS DER FUHRER

GET REKT BG


4acac1 No.24160

This thread makes me go hmm..


fd71fd No.24161

Hmmmmmmm


c6de82 No.24164

>>24155

I posted this.


5ada77 No.24165

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>24153

The general consensus of this short writing piece will focus on a more, circumscribed area of tribalism. The hierarchy - In national socialist Germany, die Fuhrer, was onto of that command chain, bellow, follows the government and then the Volk (The common people). Generally, the leader is most likely fits one of these three categories (however, is not bound to only one): the wisest, the strongest, and the most experienced. Most certainly above all.

When a member of the lower party, acts on their own behalf to take a shot at the leader, it better be for a just cause, in a case like this, the fuhrer will be sympathetic to the issue and work with the team. However, if the cause is not just and attacks the fuhrer, it would be a surprise if the furher was not resilient.

Take this video for example. First of all, we must, understand that humans, are tribal animals. Generally the leader will react in a violent way - in a functioning and composed society, the leader tends to use social tactics, called BTFO


a66735 No.24169

File: 1432434317720.png (347.77 KB, 1132x588, 283:147, 2015-05-23_22.21.36.png)

THE VOLKSTADT STANDARD


3fec2e No.24170

>>24153

>I swear to fucking god between the worthless reichmarks which I opposed (talk about putting all your eggs in one basket, and having the basket stolen)

You want me to admit that I was wrong immer? Fine, paper currency was a case of mistaken execution. Through my own fault, I put the system in a position where it could collapse with a single heist like this. I didn't protect the crib from those who would wish to smother the child.

Do I regret it? No. You told me you didn't want a paper currency adopted nationwide. Fine, but that's not going to bar me from applying it on a local level with the power YOU delegated to me. You had your opportunity to put the foot down and shut it all down before it was truly applied, but you retreated. I didn't guilt you, and I mentioned that I would change it back if ordered. You let it run though, be it out of trust for me or because you wanted to watch it crumble as part of some sadistic game. Regardless, the consequences of the currency collapse have been surprisingly minimal upon reflection, and Volk to this day brags a healthy treasury despite our losses. In the end, short of the bounty you placed on the head of the perpetrator (which I could have still easily self-funded), the consequences this fiasco has on you or the government as a whole is minimal. People weren't generally getting any more Reichsmarks than they needed, thus there is little that still needs to be paid back to the citizens. The only major inconvenience is trying to change back all the shops to iron/diamond, which will take a day tops.

But if you're that butthurt about it all, by all means: fire me. I'll happily leave you to sort out the tangled, bureaucratic web that Volk's administration has become to be able to run with any degree of efficiency or responsiveness. If not though, perhaps it is best to leave things at our initial understanding: with the powers I have been delegated, I will run the town with a certain degree of autonomy until called upon to act towards national interest. At the same time, you let the powers you delegate to operate as they were designed, understanding that occasional straying from a largely unspoken national agenda is inevitable but, in general, easily rectified.

And as for the architectural concerns, there is a reason that most foreigners who come to our town are captivated. It is a beautiful city in most cases, and it is important for the fostering of future growth that it stay aesthetically consistent. Having a thread devoted to it was pointless, but that does not make the concerns themselves invalid. Your bookstore is fine for the most part, but there are a number of buildings involved that are shit, and there is no reason why we shouldn't be able to call them out as such, especially when they were built with a known, written building code as part of the property-holder's agreement.


a66735 No.24172

I told Immer to give the RM a chance because you worked really hard on it... I also coached Tigen to go through with the paper currency for the same reason.. please no fighting. please?


715f8d No.24174

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>>24170

> I didn't protect the crib from those who would wish to smother the child.

> perhaps you wanted to watch it crumble as part of some sadistic game.

tigen pls these are some dangerous implications.

>by all means: fire me.

Hell no I dont want to fire you dude, you do a fantastic job and have turned volkstadt from a farm into something really special. The only fuck up IMO is trying to over-complicate the Volkstadt economy. Diamond and Iron are the currencies used across the entire server. It works perfectly for everyone - from the capitalists to the ancaps. I don't understand the obsession with being different.

Emerald was an experiment that ultimately overpriced the cost of xp but boosted the wealth of the town.

Reichmarks would probably have worked for a time despite its redundancy and dependence on exchanges and meticulous record keeping to unsure it was diamond backed -eg lots of extra work for no reward.

Your most recent idea of an Iron exclusive currency is also rather pointless - seeing as diamond is worth 18 times the value. If i sell a Prot IV chest for 30d that means somone needs to be carrying 540 iron ingots on them. I could buy a good amount of sets myself with my diamond wealth but only a few with iron. That equivalent to forcing all stores IRL to accept nickles and nickles only as currency.

You're correct that I have given you a certain amount of autonomy but when I see things that are going to be detrimental or excessively needless I must have my say.

I still consider you one of the most valuable people in our little online community - it would be a real blow to /pol/ if you left.


584dc3 No.24177

Though we have already discussed this in mumble, I want to set the record straight and justify a little of my action here.

Firstly, I never supported the paper currency, so any talk of me pushing for it and getting Tigen to implement it behind your back is untrue.

Secondly, I haven't said anything the rest of the nation hasn't already said. Literally every single newfag in Volk with an eye for architecture has noticed the housing trend that Azjerben and Sanshi are helping along: out of place buildings. Just because I'm the one to bring it to attention doesn't mean that this is just an opinion I have alone. I've never done a single thing that other people haven't either told me to do or told me was a good idea. The difference is that a lot of the consul I have gotten on my words and actions has been from the civilian populace, not the government. (This applies to every building demolition, by the way. I wouldn't have taken out a block if people like Bonkymnobols and Kallak hadn't said it was a good idea.)

I respect immer enormously, you guys are my friends and the last thing I need is for infighting to become a reason for us to not get along. That being said, I'm caught in a catch-22. You can have self-directed or somebody who checks in at every turn. It is not feasible to have both, even in real life it's a pain in the ass, never mind a game like this. I am, I would say, reasonably successful, and most of that is due to projects I have undertaken of my own accord that just happen to not be something you disagreed with.

I think everybody has a remarkably similar vision of /Pol/ynesia, but at the end of the day I am caught between being an inferior member of government, but yet also one of the prominent members of the civilian populace. There are many times when my heart tells me to take charge of a situation and I follow it's lead and it ends up fucking me in the end.


752d63 No.24179

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>>24164

>>24164

meme noted, nice one mcrip

>>24177

>>24174

>>24170

So is the deal here that paper currency was set up and then everything went to shit after a governor took too much power in their own hands?


715f8d No.24180

>>24177

you are good guy bg. I must caution you - if you wear your heart on your sleeve expect people to tear it off. Don't take it too seriously - Its only a game.

>>24179

nah we had a paper currency for a bit - everything was dandy until someone broke into and stole from an exchange chest. I later learned all the printed bills and diamonds backing it were in the same chest. DonaldDucktheDev was the thief.

We worked everything out with a mumble conversation - all is well once again.


938a39 No.24189

>>24174

>>24177

when are you two gonna fuck?

livestream it pls


cd4abc No.24190

File: 1432484685699.jpg (111.2 KB, 1024x683, 1024:683, ohHELLNAW.jpg)

Bumping for great hilarity


11441a No.24210

>>24144

Someone is getting gassed, LOL

>>24153

Immer, it looks like shit. Replace the brown clay with acacia logs and replace the moss stone with a mix of acacia steps and fences maybe?

Pls don't gas me.

>>24165

Ooo a brick build which doesn't look like shit.

>>24170

>fire me

Pls fire him, kolima needs strippers.

Also don't you know, the best currency is saplings so you are getting close. Well done!

>>24190

Please don't dox sploodington from kolima.


04c764 No.24216

tbh this looks like shit


1da30c No.24254

>>24153

wow volk looks like shit now




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