/civ/ - CivCraft

In any case, I think it's time for a Chan meeting and time for us to deal with some of these issues.

1. Vision and purpose of our confederation

2. Recruitment/new towns/revitalization

3. Leadership and representation within Chanada

I've been planning on trying to recruit in these next two days, as I won't be playing for much longer. I'll return one day, but I want to try to make one last push for Akihabara.

>>25029

>leaving

Why, Centi? There is much you can do yet. (Before you go, tell me about the /s4s/ town.

>>25030

I'm not quite leaving willingly, and I do know there's much I can do.

About the [s4s] town, I once tried to get people from [s4s] to join me on civcraft in a town. However, like none of them stayed. So basically it was just me mining away for hours while in the Viridian Mumble. One day however, it got completely removed in like an hour or two without me even knowing. Though my stuff was reinforced. The floating remains are still there (as it was built on a floating island in a mountain biome). It was sometime in October that it got ruined I remember,

>Versailles is struggling as usual

We're working on shilling and bringing in a new wave of players. It's easier for /pol/ considering the server is centered around politics and the mods are less shitty than /v/ mods.

Honestly fuck off with this, it annoys me that people rag on Versailles so much. We still have a decent amount of active citizens.

Just because these people don't get in the mumble doesn't mean they aren't there.

>>25032

I actually really appreciate /V/ersaille's tenacity. You guys are a power center in and of yourselves and I don't quite shit on you as much as some do. Of all the nations least likely to collapse, /V/ersailles is among the top of the heap, and I'm sure that your structure will allow you guys to move forward. Trust me, I'm not like Beamish who loudly crows at every opportunity that "/V/ersailles is kill :^)"

As for getting people in mumble, that's a pretty important part of assimilating and keeping newfriends.

I thought someone made a thread yesterday announcing a meeting for tonight but I guess they forgot. I do plan to address each of your points whenever the meeting does occur.

>>25033

As it turns out either 8ch /v/ has 0 interest in minecraft anymore or our threads are completely wrong, because not one single new person replied. The same thread on the /monster/ board got more replies.

>>25034

>>25034

But anon I was going to make a monster town

Manticore is best girl

>>25027

Looks like its time for me to singlehandedly stimulate chanada's economy again

>>25031

Why are you leaving? Get on steam or something if you don't wanna talk about it here

Chanada will always be kept down so long as you guys try to pretend you're not on the same server as the reddit cities. I mean fuck reddit, seriously, but you should recognize that unless we magically become wealthy as fuck, there will never be a relevant Chanada.

Carson was not built in a day. You guys want to ruin these motherfuckers? Do better then them. There is nothing that Carson and Hjatland and Aeon can do that we can't. Build up XP infrastructure, bot the fuck out of it, we have the numbers, we have the territory, drive every market we can into oblivion. Ruin what little server economy there is, that way we end up on equal terms with the rest of the server. Then, they won't be so quick to shit upon us.

In summery, and remember that I've been quietly working on a huge project in reddit, the BEST thing for Chanada to do is to create a powerbloc of anti-World Police/Carson cities, and use our economic means to reduce their cities' importance and power.

1. Pan-chan union

2. reddit genocide

3. ???

4. Profit

>>25040

This is what I mean by vision. The fact is, if we want to dominate the server or at least dominate the WP, that is what we have to do. Build a massive network of Anti-WP cities that have no need for the WP's 'protection'. They fucked up bad in Mt. Augusta by showing their true colors. If we wanted, we could capitalize on that and draw Mt. Augusta into some sort of alliance, perhaps.

However, the prevalent opinion I've seen so far is that we should remain irrelevant, surviving in our corner of the server alone. This strategy is technically viable, but we would need a number of people and a level of competence beyond anything we've yet had. Unless we are able to challenge Reddit head-on, us versus the entire server, we cannot hope to remain untouched. Eventually, a war will come and the WP will show up. Better to die alongside some allies than die alone, an isolationist stranger in the experiment.

>>25043

Agreed. We just need to get our shit together.

>>25040

>uncapitalized

>spelling mistakes

if you're gonna try to impersonate oldfriend, at least put some effort into it

>>25040

Man I'd like to discuss this with you privately but I guess that's not possible

>>25027

>/k/ is almost universally disliked for their isolationism

their newfriendiness has made me cringe and it's easy to rustle their jimmies, but they were easy for someone who had no experience with board culture to get along with, and they got me browsing /k/ eventually. They seem like an battered asset with poor placement, and if you guys dislike them so much then I'd be happy to help them build a /k/ city near Thule. You guys should be backing them up so much more.

>>25043

u3p tried pretty hard to get MTA to join their alliance and failed from what I remember. If you guys want a reddit alliance sucking folter's dick isn't a bad route.

>>25040

>You guys want to ruin these motherfuckers? Do better then them.

once again oldfriend is the smartest guy in the room

>create a powerbloc of anti-World Police/Carson cities

>isolate chanada

choose one

>>25036

plz

>>25040

>>25045

It's oldfriend btw

>>25054

We were prepared to help new people out yesterday but there was literally not a single person who replied or joined. This was 8chan. Recruiting on 4chan was a lot easier before but now the mods are very quick to delete threads.

It's obvious you haven't been keeping up with Versailles recently because all of that's pretty far from the truth. You are just shifting the blame to /v/ culture when it was you who scared off most people at the beginning.

You are right about pvp though. Only a couple chanadians take it seriously. It is in our best interest to git gud whether or not we remain isolationist.

>>25058

Honestly, /v/ really does have tough lot recruiting. I don't think that 'board culture' has a lot to do with why /v/ is suffering.

1. The 4chan and 8chan mods are kikes and will delete literally any thread that isn't sneaky to the point of being ineffective

2. /Pol/andcraft and Chancraft derail and shill on the threads and are more able to do so if the thread is a sneaky thread

3. /V/irgins don't play minecraft as much as they used to (applies to all boards, but /v/ especially)

4. The /v/irgins that do play minecraft are already hooked into a particular server or are very burnt out from people shilling their crappy 10 man vanilla servers run from their mom's basement. They are jaded against advertising of any servers or any kind.

I have said this before, I think the best bet is for us to get our server added to the /mcg/ server list, if you want a steady (if small) stream of recruits. I could be 100% wrong on that though, so call me out if I am.

I added the server to the /mcg/ list about a month and a half ago.

>>25053

> sucking folter's dick isn't a bad route.

chanada already has a good relationship with him despite his being very pro WP leaning. We want little to do with the Jew3P.

Also talking about potential alliances on a public board seems kinda dumb and desperate, maybe that's just me.

>They seem like an battered asset with poor placement

/k/ greatly damaged their relationship with the rest of chanada by following prind the flacid's lead and taking an aggressive stance towards every other nation around them. 'remove facist' 'remove /v/irgin' 'remove jaja' was all that we received when we went to help them or simply take a look around their town. Bear in mind /pol/ynesia and Versailles built their early factories, showed them how reinforcement works, and generally were very willing to donate resources and time to get them off the ground - only to be thanked by animosity and a preference to conduct >tradedealz internationally. A country in iron and leather armor that formulates an attack strategy on their allies and friends is NOT a battered asset. Only recently have they decided to come to the table and work with us.

>You guys should be backing them up so much more

We have a policy of getting a country on their feet and letting them find their own way. Like a mother bird kicking the baby out the nest, /k/ will either soar, or fall to their death.

>>25055

Yeah I had cleared my cache so I rewrote my name, but I was also post-GOT drunk so hence spelling errors

Hey Im Mustang from /k/ and honnestly we have no problems with the major powers of Chanada.

Actually me and katjankaffe wanted to see if there was any newfags who wanted to settle in southern FAGT or help shill and rebuild Titan so theres another dynamic faction besides us and Pol and that the southern half of a territory isnt uninhabited.

We also would be happy to invite anyone else in Chanada and make like a Pan-Chan devlopment .

Also, whats with the Soviet Faction across the sea of FAGT to the east?

>>25069

See we keep getting into these situations where the government of /K/ seems to say one thing, while the people say another. You guys need to work together and do better to figure out who is leading what, otherwise you'll get ChrisChrispie'd and it'll be a shit show. Get a spokesman for the whole of /K/ (like Dave for Viridian, Centi/Woj for Aki or Reiko/Yearn for Versailles) and be more organized. Run it like a city, not a faction.

As for the Soviets, those would be the fellows of the Eastern Bloc. Mildly inactive, they're a bunch of RPer's who have been deemed so little threat by the rest of the server they're largely left alone. Would be.. interesting, if an alliance could be struck with them.

Also stop using the word faction. It grates against many here, and will cause others to look more critically at who you are.

>>25054

One day perhaps we can live in a server where we don't need the redditors, a server where every Chanadian can be judged not by his board but by the strength of his convictions. A server where Chanada is a driving force for politics, an amorphous blob that deters all external transgressions. A blob so powerful the PVPers need to fight with us, or not at all.

But that day has not yet come. So we must work with those of the reddit cities who do not advocate for the wanton destruction of Chanada. To do so, we must open ourselves up not like tradedeals wanted, but a new Chanada that works with the opposition to the WP. We must either stand together with the opposition, or forever live in chains.

We must join those who seek our freedom from the heel of our enemies. We must do so, or we risk forever being slaves.

>>25073

Hey can we talk on mumble or something? You can remain anonymous, I just want to discuss some stuff with you

>>25073

Normally, Oldfriend, I agree with you about things, but I find myself nervous about what you propose given that the other week you suggested outright allying ourselves to Libertas. There is an inherent danger is shackling ourselves to the foreign policy of other nations, especially when the most commonly vetted potential allies of Chanada are also other non-redditors. If we are to quick to jump into an alliance, we risk boxing ourselves in diplomatically and finding ourselves the victim of people screaming "destroy these invaders".

That is at least my fear with Libertas: the WP easily casts them as HCF invaders, the last thing we need to do is to jump on board with them and be able to be labeled the same way. We should look first to reddit, not the HCF, if we want to find allies, because it will increase our legitimacy.

>>25069

If /k/ would be willing to help bring new boards onto the server, that would be great. I was, actually, in favor of letting Ayyyyyyylmao and his friends set up another chan state somewhere in FAGT in hopes that they would calm down and be more than griefers. That being said, recruiting new boards is extremely difficult. There's a reason I picked /k/ as the board I brought on, and not /mu/ (despite Kyle asking me to. I'll honor that someday, dude). You guys already had a culture of banding together and surviving innawoods, so it was easy to create a town based on being innawoods. Reviving Titan with /b/ recruits is certainly possible, the question is whether we actually should. The answer to that, I leave up to Shady and Draz, since Titan is neither my home nor my business.

>>25075

/k/ should have no involvement in setting up settlements until they get their own shit together.

After all, their president did get banned and ttheir vice president quite. (pastrie is now vice president)

>>25075

I agree that we should be careful not to find ourselves allied with invaders, since that is what brought about the ruin of Vale/Nexus. HOWEVER, I think that Libertas/Nox has a seriously good chance of succeeding where Titan failed, and that if they had the support from one of the most active player bases on civcraft, along with the tacit neutrality of a plurality of reddit cities, they could truimph. If they bring down the World Police, it opens the door for a much better server almost immediately.

>>25076

Honestly all I've seen from /K/ is fuckups and hostility. I see a young ChrisChrispie nation in the works, and if something isn't done relatively quickly I fear that they will do something stupid to non-Chanadians, and bring down some serious hurt on us all.

>>25058

>when it was you who scared off most people at the beginning.

you're forgetting there was another /v/ town called Viridian that I helped massively. the reason it died can be attributed basically to me leaving and the incompetence or unwillingness of everyone else to lead

versailles was a different story but you have to remember I was the one who actually invited ya'll to the server in the first place

you can argue all you want that i caused a bunch of people to leave the server but in reality they left later down the line and it wasn't because of me. but we're not going to agree on that so there's no point

>>25082

Failures don't work like sums, Kovio, you can't counterbalance you fucking up Versailles because you helped Viridian and you can't claim this holier-than-thou status "Well I invited you here"

Great, you helped found Chanada, you're still able to be judged and you're still able to fuck up, anyone who denies that fact has definitely fucked up somewhere

>>25084

>leadership of Prind

In that thread where Prind was insisting on his/her ridiculous fucking cavalry idea I saw a new Chris being born.

What I'd like to see from /K/ is a clear, definite leader or group of leaders that we can go to whenever one of their shit-stirrers does something, and say "What the fuck guys?" As of now, since they appear to have no spokesman, we are forced to take everything they say as real or legitimate, even the shitstirrers, especially the shitstirrers.

>>25084

>>25083

I never said Antioch wasn't a fuckup but I really don't think it was as bad as it's made out to be.

Those people would have left with or without me imo, but yeah they shouldn't have had their shit ended so fast.

The only thing about Antioch was I wasn't only to blame. If those fuckers didn't burn down the church over and over mino wouldn't have felt the need to declare independence and ask me for help. You can't lay the blame entirely on me, I was just supposedly helping out a friend. It turned into a shitshow the second I came to help mino though, and that was bad and would've been avoided had I just not shown up.

But I didn't know that at the time, this wasn't some pre-planned rampage, why would I invite all these people to the server just to kill them all and kick them off? It doesn't make sense

I was passionate about helping Versailles, but my friend that I've known for like 5 years came first and I'm sorry but it's true. I didn't think when I came to help him that it was going to turn into what it was. I thought it was just going to me pearling a few griefers like it was in ABR.

I wasn't acting any different than I did in Viridian, I went in to pearl the griefers like I did in Versailles but I guess the circumstances were different, so instead of being the savior that came to save Viridian from the Redditor Insurgents I WAS the redditor insurgent, since there had been no incidents up to that point.

I'm not saying I'm not to blame, I'm deeply sorry about how the events turned out that day, but the entire thing cannot be shifted to me.

>>25089

In any case this is mostly in the past, but you do have a knack for recruiting which is what we really need right now. I'd like to discuss plans with the remaining population and then do a serious recruitment drive.

>>25088

Yeah, that is when /pol/ realized that something had to be done. Prind was under a LOT of pressure to hold an election, both from /pol/ and also from his own Senators and citizens. For the first time, I see a leader of /k/ taking responsibility for their actions and laying down the law with the people who fuck up, in the form of Syncrates. Give him a chance, he's shaping up to be a good leader.

One interesting thing is that there is a theory of politics that states that the best leaders are those who don't want leadership, but are rather just competent in what they do. Syncrates says that he just wanted to build and ended up being president. I think that having a leader with humility and groundedness is a very good start for /k/. Every nation has its rough start, /k/ was no different.

>>25027

/k/, /pol/ and all the ones that are playing now will have the same fate as intis, viridian, and so one, because this game becomes boring, it's as simple as that.

>>25093

I disagree. The only reason a community will completely die is if it doesn't recruit and everybody slowly loses interest at the same time. The only reason it gets boring is if you sit alone and never take any risks, never challenge yourself to accomplish anything incredible.

Do you think /pol/ would be as powerful as we are if we'd never recruited? I get a lot of flak for valuing high numbers, but ultimately we survive and grow because we have and continue to bring in new blood and innovate. Not a day goes by that some suggestion or another to improve /pol/ doesn't get put out there and we're constantly making new farms, factories, and production material.

The only reason a town loses interest is if the only reason they were there in the first place was to build personal homes. This is what we've realized in Volkstadt and why we shove newfriends into apartments right off and make them pay for plots, then evict the ones who leave. You can never keep everybody active, but you can at least have your town grow and shift with the population.

If people are losing interest, you should start asking yourself what the purpose of playing here is, what your vision for the future is, what your end goal or ideals are. What keeps people here is community, nothing more nothing less. Doing shit together, hanging out in mumble, fighting hackers and shitters side by side. That's what people enjoy, not coming in, building a house, and then sitting around wondering what to do.

I bash on /k/ a lot but honestly they're not as awful as they originally were. In the beginning days of /k/, they were very isolated and hated the other chan states with a passion even though it was us that brought them here and helped them get set up.

Through recent events, and /k/ as a whole smartening they've gained some actual Chanadian pride and respect for the other states which makes me happy.

My only problem with /k/ at this point is that they make piss poor decisions sometimes and disregard the good advice of older players who know how the server works a lot more than them.

Newfriends will be newfriends though, it's not fair to call /k/ chrischrispie tier until more time has passed. I think /k/'s future is bright personally.

soooooo, to unfuck titan we get one of them back on and then start shilling on /b/ for newfriends?

>>25095

Reiko you just described how i feel about versiallies

>>25094

>The only reason it gets boring is if you sit alone and never take any risks, never challenge yourself to accomplish anything incredible.

It's fucking minecraft dude, you'll get bored sometime.

>>25113

>>25130

Nicely thought out reply, I like it

>>25113

Y-You mean how you used to feel right

So it turns out that I'm staying a little longer because things that were not part of my plan occurred.

So I can properly shill now :^)