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 No.29939

Tell me chanadians, will we indict lailynator for chanadian treason?

 No.29940

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


 No.29941

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>>29939

I would


 No.29942

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>gives ok for the ultimate leddit teir wp faction to build and develope for 2months under radio silence with out telling us if its ok

>hurr dur muh land back off chanadians

>can i be part of chanada XD

I honestly dont think he should get off that easy


 No.29943

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I don't think he should be let off scot free, that's for sure.


 No.29944

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personally I say naww -- going forward we need to be crystal clear towards all chanadians states what is acceptable procedure towards granting land claims. I suspect that Mir squatted on his claim without his knowledge, raided him

https://www.reddit.com/r/Civcraft/comments/3ahnog/bounty100d_for_shanemaxell_and_sempha/

and then cut a deal with him after the fact. He's been on our side more often than not throughout this whole ordeal.

Was it handled a bit poorly? yes.

Were his actions criminal? ehhh no not intentionally


 No.29946

>>29944

Cant argue with those dub dubs, treason as op said is a little but too far, but he should have came to us for help when this first started, for now we need to spaughter the pig before we decide how to cook it.


 No.30019

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 No.30021

>>29944

>>29944

>>29944

this, laily is a good boy from what i can tell, no bully


 No.30023

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They brought redditors into sacred land, behind the back of authority. I might not have much over the newer power players of Chanada, but I do have knowledge that they don't. I remember Civcraft in its darkest age.

I began playing this autistic cesspool of a server between the first and second HCF wars. I lived in the Bryn-Aurora-Fellowship area. I remember almost being pearled for saying nigger. This was a server ruled by SJWs content with roleplaying and all other sorts of faggotry. I could never really fit in with these folk, and their political conversation usually surrounded around a roleplayed LibSoc vs. AnCaps debate that looked like it came out of an Intro to PolySci course. I could never really jive with these folk, and I never wanted to.

It was no surprise that when the invasion happened, that these folk were completely unprepared for it. The guys with prot (eg mcgerbic, gordon ect.) essentially ruled the redditors, but the redditors seemed too enthralled in their endeavors to understand the dangers. The invasion caused the formation of the WP, which was an alliance of power plebbits bent on being the antithesis of the HCF. On multiple occasions, they would claim to be fighting in the name of Civcraft. In many ways they viewed themselves as defenders of the realm. If you look at previous wars, you can understand why they felt this way, The previous invasions almost wiped out the entire server. They quickly took control of their region and ruled with an iron fist.

Then the ol boys from /b/ came into town. I was so pumped. I packed and headed out, but Sloths_Rock got there before me. The plebbitor demolished the upstart town and massacred the inhabitants. The wp didn't want more problems during this time, and the Channers were seen as a nuisance and possible source of grief. Apparently, the solution they felt was fitting was extermination. Chew on that for a little bit.

Luckily, those dudes survived and went on to create the FAGT. The federation declared war on the WP, which was something I really was hoping for since I joined the server. I wanted a group to finally put their foot down and take aggressive action towards these totalitarian plebbit fags. Best of all, I could use profanity and not have to worry about international hug zones.

The Titan guys were the greatest generation. They were the genesis of Chanada, and if it weren't for them, I doubt Chanada as we see it could not exist. My advise: please don't become the baby boomers. Don't take the ball and fumble it. The plebbitors have always seen channers as the prejudice side, but the reality is that the plebbitors fired the first shot. We need our side, and they need theirs. When these faggots intrude on our side of town, it is an insult to everything Chanada stands for. It is our responsibility to continue the work of our ancestors, and not be afraid to stand up to these goons. If the past proves anything, it's that the WP only control what people let them control. I lived in a place where people let the WP rule. Trust me, you wouldn't like it.

Unfortunately, I understand there's some politics behind this. Chanadians have always been the most forgiving, and this guy doesn't seem like a complete douche. From an observers perspective, I assume that the Chanadian leaders will chose the peaceful, faggoty solution. This guy brought pigs into the temple, and although these guys might not be full-blooded WP'ers, these are the folk that create these institutions. If we don't stand up to the WP, who will?

tl;dr This guy committed the greated crime to Chanada, but I understand that politics and the good nature of our people will cause us to go easy on the guy.


 No.30026

I'm reluctant to consider him completely ignorant in this ordeal. He was smart enough to message me for permission to use my land a year ago, he was smart enough two months ago to alert Chanada of what he was doing. To me that says two things:

Either he was paid off, which is wrong of him, or he supports Mir, which is wrong of him. I don't see room for an "oops" here. This has brought war to our doorsteps. Unnecessary war. Had we been notified of this upfront, we could have told them to pack it up immediately or take them down and out right then and there. Now we have all this time spent on considering options and division among whether we should take it in the ass or stick it in theirs, or some mixture of the two. Laily, although a nice guy I can easily admit, knew there would be repercussions of this deceit. He knew the nature of these people having just been raided by them before being so gracious as to letting them into our homeland to settle. Reddit aside, these people are just genuine shit-stirrers. Always have been. Without fail.

Ignorance is no excuse yet I do not see that applies to Laily. Negligence, on the other hand, is very apparent, and the type of neglect he is guilty of should not be taken lightly. As there had to be intent within this scenario, I would consider this criminal negligence and should be addressed with a heavy hand.


 No.30027

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>>30023

>>30026

>>30019

He knew what he was doing.


 No.30029

>>30027

based protomen is based


 No.30037

>>29942

Look, this was all a mess to begin with, first of all I assumed the mirians to be some group of friends who didn't want anything to do with civpolitics, so I let them have some land near the city of Bielefeld so they could build their small castle project in peace. I went on vacation and they decided to move their castle site to where it is now. It was foolish on my part not to have done a background check on their names, I rarely browse the subreddit anyways.

I did not know they were mirians, and they didn't tell me about the nether factory they built until after the conflict started.

I gave them the land because there was so much unused space, I thought why not?

This was all before I was asked to join chanada, which I never begged to happen. It was chanada who wanted me to join so that both halves of chanada wouldnt be divided by my land anymore, and I reluctantly agreed, cause I knew some stupid shit like this would happen and someone would try to take my power away because of it.

I did not commit treason to chanada, I was trying to be an objective, neutral third party to solve this peacefully. I don't care much about national pride (maybe cause Im german?) And they weren't being asshats to me, so why not let them keep theit castle if they let us use their portal? Cause thats what it was about in the beginning.

Then lysika went all hcf radical bullshit and so and chanadians were pissed at that and went down to the same level of hot headedness.

In the end, my only intention was that people have fun building their stuff and playing civcraft (and have access to a portal they didn't build), but to indict me from the land that was given to me and the city that I built by myself in the last 12 months over this shit is just petty and ridiculous.

If anyone from chanada needs something from Silesia and theyre not complete jackasses, I'm almost always willing to comply.


 No.30038

>>30037

I agree with Resin when he says that we shouldn't punish this. The rules regarding who can or cannot live where are not written, how was Laily supposed to know a rule that didn't exist?

Yes, it was a mistake, but I believe him when he says he really didn't intend to cause this. This mess is the fault of Mir, not of him, we shouldn't push the blame off of Mir simply because it's convenient to go after Laily.


 No.30062

>>30037

>I don't care much about national pride (maybe cause Im german?)

;_;


 No.30077

>>30037

In the end I am sorry for the trouble I've caused, but they did say they would use military force (also towards Bielefeld) if I didn't comply, so they would have caused trouble there regardless of me granting them land or not.


 No.30080

>>30077

So literally cucked out of your own land?


 No.30083

>>30077

>they did say they would use military force (also towards Bielefeld) if I didn't comply

Wait, so was that even before the rest of us found them down there?

And yeah, I agree with immer and bg here, I don't really think you're to blame for anything, and I can understand you being in a tough position here especially if they had been threatening you from the beginning. It would've probably helped things a bit if you had informed us earlier about this but that's not treasonous or whatever people are claiming.


 No.30088

>>30077

Yea I'm not mad at youse all, just wish you informed us earlier as it would have made the situation a lot less messy.


 No.30093

>>30037

fair enough

>>30077

the dub gods have backed you up.

I understand that this was a mistake in which we all at one point dungoofed.


 No.30097

>>30077

I wouldn't even say you've caused any trouble, really. The biggest thing I'd say is to get into mumble or tell us, if some shit like this happens again. The Mir people are bullies and clearly pushed you around. You're part of Chanada for a reason, if you came to us from the beginning, we'd have told them to pack it up and get the fuck out before this became a real problem. We're your friends and all the people advocating indictment are in danger of burning a bridge that doesn't need to be burnt.


 No.30110

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>>30037

> I don't care much about national pride (maybe cause Im german?)

This makes me sad.

>>30077

>they did say they would use military force (also towards Bielefeld) if I didn't comply

When did this happen? before chanada discovered them or after?

do you have proof of that?

Important stuff here...


 No.30126

>>30110

Well normally german pride only shows during the world cup, thats where Im proudest too.

It was some reddit post from them where they mentioned any military action to achieve their goal and some ingame messages from lysika, and at that point I only played along to gain a few diamonds through the deal which I knew would end in war anyways.


 No.30127

>>30126

When did you get those messages?


 No.30133

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>>30126

yes i'm well aware that germanic pride has been successfully neutered post WWII. There is almost a sense of societal shame in Deutschland - showing any form of nationalism outside of a World Cup or champions league run. It's a beautiful country, my father was born there and I have been there myself many times. The native Germans seem to walk on eggshells for fear of 'ebil nazi' accusations.

Any time germany becomes TOO good at something; sport, technology, economy, politik - something like pic related materializes. Its a real shame.

Regarding mir, I take it lysika messaged you this AFTER Chanada discovered them?


 No.30137

>>30127

When I visited their castle for the only time, before the conflict, lysika was the only one online there and told me that he doesn't accept another leader and I better not get in their way, upon which sempha pm'd me in which he apologized and offered me a few chests of clay and leather, and later after the crisis, the purchase deal.


 No.30139

>>30137

Of course, sempha back then apologized by saying I'm still in power and that he'll dropchest me the stuff. I was on already on vacation at that point and tried not to think about civcraft, and then the whole drama started a few days later.


 No.30142

>>30133

>Regarding mir, I take it lysika messaged you this AFTER Chanada discovered them?

Apparently not: >>30137

Looks like they were making threats well before the "PACK IT UP" debacle.


 No.30216

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>>30037

THE NIGGER LIVES

>mfw Mir is wiped off the map


 No.30245

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>>30037

>I don't care much about national pride

>maybe cause Im german




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