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 No.33783

It started with a war in a far away land,

The death of a nation,

A King and his people gone mad,

Never ending darkness,

Now the moon has turned red with the undead walking the lands

In the distance, the angels blow their horns, the apocalypse has begun...

 No.33784

should someone set up a 3.0 thread?


 No.33785

>>33783

c-can we occupy zero zero and make a general chancity


 No.33786

IS THIS LEGIT?

My plans for a weeaboo bloc may finally be relevant. My question is whether or not I should establish Aki 2.0 by Gensokyo 2.0 or just make Aki a district of Gensokyo's major city, much like Akihabara is a district of Tokyo. Having a distinct town nearby would be cool. But living in a bigger city would be more efficient to further a single cause


 No.33787

File: 1447056142369.png (66.28 KB, 388x223, 388:223, waiting for this.png)

Forgot my my picture


 No.33788

>>33785

>general chan city

No way, Chanada died for a reason. What makes you think it'd be any different if we were all together? Endless infighting and arguing, with people who disagreed with power players having to suck up to whichever actual authority was in power at the time. It sounds like hell. I would be okay with living together in the same quadrant/area again, of course, but not as a single unit.


 No.33789

>>33788

>No way, Chanada died for a reason

Chanada could have lived on if we hadn't grown lax.

Way back in the day, Chanada actually felt like a union. Everyone was friendly and on good terms with each other, it felt like a truly strong community. We never let kike tier shit fly, if someone was a shitter, they were out and that was the end of it. Flash forward a few months, people like Dave, HanTzu, Kovio, Immelol, etc either quit or went generally inactive, that's when things started to go bad.

The few remaining oldfags got too lenient with newer players. People that were even worse than Chrisaspie got to stick around. The fact we gave people like Syncrates, Logibear, Darkcrow, Kallak, Denim, Savvy, etc second, and sometimes even third chances is why Chanada fell apart. We let these shit stirrers, these assoles that held contempt towards older players for no reason other than the fact they felt superior stick around, and why? Why did we keep them? There was no point, I still to this day don't understand why we didn't just remove a lot of these people.

The reason Chanada died is because we got weak. It could have continued being a great thing if we had just put some effort in.


 No.33790

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>>33789

>The fact we gave people like Syncrates, Logibear, Darkcrow, Kallak, Denim, Savvy, etc second, and sometimes even third chances is why Chanada fell apart. We let these shit stirrers, these assoles that held contempt towards older players for no reason other than the fact they felt superior stick around, and why? Why did we keep them? There was no point, I still to this day don't understand why we didn't just remove a lot of these people.

K


 No.33791

>>33790

Sorry Denim, you weren't a very good leader. I don't think you should have been pearled or exiled, but you shouldn't have been allowed to be in a leadership position.


 No.33792

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>>33791

True, i am too in experienced to run a soverieng entity. I just hope i earn from my mistakes.


 No.33793

>>33788

A single chan city is the only viable option. If we work together, we won't be recognized as our own separate countries, rather as a city state. Of course, we can have our districts.

Due to working together, it won't be /pol/ vs /k/, or spainland vs /k/ anymore. No infighting, still probably some arguing. I dont know how you say living in a single unit does not work, when living seperately is what killed us.

did you really even think that post through man?


 No.33794

>>33789

>The fact we gave people like Syncrates, Logibear, Darkcrow, Kallak, Denim, Savvy, etc second, and sometimes even third chances is why Chanada fell apart.

It's cute that you think that Darkcrow, Kallak, and I ever had the relevancy needed to contribute to Chanada's downfall.

I joined the server with the intent to fuck shit up and be entirely a shitter. I didn't expect to meet people in Polynesia that I would quickly consider to be friends (Bg, Immer, Bobnamg, etc). So I tried to contribute on a few projects (donated a few hundred diamonds from mining to poly, created large cocoa farm for poly, etc) until I tried to recruit some of my friends (no one had a problem with that then though hmm) and they wanted to be under a baneposting nation.

By the time I created Cian it was already apparent that Tazmily was eventually going to secede. Though I didn't expect anything else to happen (losing more than half of federal land, /k/ completely suiciding). The idea of Cian was to foster a small tight knit community much like a smaller version of what /k/ is/was (they all still play games together, so pretty good on that end tbh). I succeeded in bringing in a few active friends but eventually it all went south when I was having RL issues.

Tried to revitalize Cian after my return, I made some promises I couldn't keep, only about 2 people of the 6-7 I listed actually stayed on the server. I got called out understandably, though half of it was either a misunderstanding or not even an issue (no one complained the first time I recruited friends from a non-chan site (who were channers anyway) and again misunderstanding about the other people who joined being chan). I feel like my response to being called out was a bit much but it IS just a game, though I feel a lot of people have taken the things I've said/done personally.

I do feel like creating Cian in the first place was a mistake but I don't really think it contributed to the downfall of Chanada in any way. If anything our closeness with /k/ prolonged their suicide, which imo really killed Chanada.


 No.33795

>>33794

You're missing the point of the post, I never said you were one of the big shitters. I was just listing off examples of people that caused problems and were given multiple chances. You're one of the lesser ones.


 No.33797

>>33794

again, no one cares what you think. Eat a Dick.


 No.33798

>>33795

Prior to Cian I never made any mistakes that weren't misunderstandings/misinterpretations or not immediately visible as beneficial.

After Cian was founded there was no way to remove ME specifically from Chanada, unless Cian was removed from the union.


 No.33799

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>>33797

WHAT YOU JUST SAY NYUGGA

YOU EAT A DICK NIGGA

YOU EAT A DICK


 No.33800

>>33793

keep in mind that spainland isnt a thing anymore, and i the only true spainlander left, could fit in with /pol/ or /int/, we could also shill for k again if wanted. I can invision this as being a temporary city and a hub for trade, since we are zero zero,

>>33798

maybe starting a country makes us shitters, or gives us teh pressure to become shitters


 No.33801

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>>33794

>I joined the server with the intent to fuck shit up and be entirely a shitter

this answers your question as to why I trusted gbrbgryn and sburc with wealth and important groups months before I trusted you

>no one complained the first time I recruited friends from a non-chan site

asking a skype friend like niceman to start a nation with you is VERY different than recruiting a /bane/ nation on kongregate.com.

>and they wanted to be under a baneposting nation.

First came the idea for a /bane/ nation, then came the recruitment on kongregate.com not the other way around. dont get it twisted. you talked about it for weeks before bringing in niceman and making a claims thread.

>After Cian was founded there was no way to remove ME specifically from Chanada, unless Cian was removed from the union.

Cian was never part of the union. This ALL could have been prevented if you had simply recruited on /bane/ - but I've repeated this ad-infinitum.

>If anything our closeness with /k/

>only about 2 people of the 6-7 I listed actually stayed on the server.

>only about 2

>about 2

>our closeness

>our

>2

Ironic that you always talked in the third person about Cian when it was literally only you 95% of the time. (niceman sporadically if you want to get technical)

Your (you personally) closeness to /k/ was the fact that you sought solace with them in being perpetually shitstirring self-identified outsiders, working against directly against cooperation, competence and unity.

Everything that has even come out of that meme town (meme as in the town was a fucking joke, not meme as in the played out 'bigguy4u' (hahhahahahaha XD XD XD)) has been a huge exaggeration, or a straight out lie dude. I like you in the sense that I hope you don't go broke and be forced to suck dick to survive in serbia - but god-damn if you weren't as shifty of a shitter as humanly possible about that whole situation.

>>33800

maybe starting a country makes us shitters, or gives us teh pressure to become shitters

tell that to Neustria, Wulfkhaine, Tygrus, Akihabara, Versailles, and Tasmily. Your only crime, rick was being a poor leader. I like you quite alot but without someone to tell you 'no' you make really stupid decisions. Perhaps starting a country affords you the opportunity to be shitters. If anyone tries to stop it you get to cry "muh sovereignty", help me pol, chanada, reiko, (& in logi's case) reddit! Shitter is as shitter does.

Personally I would probably help found a 3.0 /pol/ town with the same people, push it in the right direction and step down from (or maybe not even initially assume) leadership.


 No.33802

>>33801

>asking a skype friend like niceman to start a nation with you is VERY different than recruiting a /bane/ nation on kongregate.com.

They happened at the same time. Look at the date on my thread, it matches up within a day or two of the claims thread I guarantee it.

>First came the idea for a /bane/ nation, then came the recruitment on kongregate.com not the other way around. dont get it twisted

I didn't recruit from the website, I recruited from a subforum in which I knew everyone there and they all had to go through me to get the server address. People from there are the reason I started it FaM

>Cian was never part of the union.

Two voting nations agreed to recognize us tbh

>Ironic that you always talked in the third person about Cian when it was literally only you 95% of the time. (niceman sporadically if you want to get technical)

Your (you personally) closeness to /k/ was the fact that you sought solace with them in being perpetually shitstirring self-identified outsiders, working against directly against cooperation, competence and unity.

>perpetually shitstirring self-identified outsiders, working against directly against cooperation, competence and unity.

yeah /k/ totally isolationist

>you and your guys can use our factories whenever you want logi

>kapt, darkcrow, and spongy all came down to donate supplies when we first started (more than any other chan nation I might add)

>allow me in their mumble to this day

>dubs went to Cian to defend it when there was suspicion of someone raiding

/k/ literally did everything possible to ensure cooperation and friendship between us and /k/.

>Everything that has even come out of that meme town (meme as in the town was a fucking joke, not meme as in the played out 'bigguy4u' (hahhahahahaha XD XD XD)) has been a huge exaggeration, or a straight out lie dude. I like you in the sense that I hope you don't go broke and be forced to suck dick to survive in serbia - but god-damn if you weren't as shifty of a shitter as humanly possible about that whole situation.

I'm talking out of character right now so I obviously won't defend everything I did given that. But holy shit I never expected the response to the initial post I received, in character or out of character. Literally what I expected was "logi you're full of hot air" and then depending on how many of them stick around I would either be apologized to or laughed at. But holy shit you guys overreacted.

Like I said this post (as well as any other posts I make ITT) are out of character. I have a specific character for each of my accounts on games. Understand that using a persona in-character does not prevent me from feeling friendship with any of you out of character - I stop in to /k/'s mumble from time to time, I have pretty much everyone in pol government added on skype despite having banned them from Cian in the past. Though I feel a good lot of my true personality has been shown on the Logibear2 persona, at least at most times.

If 3.0 happens I'm going to be hopping on an unknown alt and either playing as myself or with a persona more similar to my actual self and likely joining a chan nation that migrates to 3.0.


 No.33803

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>>33802

>I didn't recruit from the website

https://www.kongregate.com/forums/2-off-topic/topics/527489-are-you-a-big-guy-for-me-do-you-have-autistic-tendancies-do-you-like-e-legos-well-you-came-to-the-right-place-ot-minecraft-autism

sure you didn't

>Two voting nations agreed to recognize us tbh

they did it to prank you since they were gonna seceed anyhow, moron.

>/k/ literally did everything possible to ensure cooperation and friendship between us and /k/.

you mean yourself and /k/. we've been over this

>I joined the server with the intent to fuck shit up and be entirely a shitter.

>Though I feel a good lot of my true personality has been shown on the Logibear2 persona, at least at most times.

indeed it has.

I don't think you're a bad guy. But since ive known you in civcraft you went from being an absolute shitter, deflecting everything from criticism to 'hey come help replant' with >help replant (meme arrow XD XD XD) - to decent loyal guy - back to supreme shitter and ultimate reddit sympathizer, honestly worse than chrispie ever was.


 No.33804

>>33803

>sure you didn't

fam that's a specific part of the website

don't act like some 12 year old shitter playing XxAwesomePenguinRobloxxX can come on here and immediately be a part of Cian. OT is a single forum on the website with a high density of people who do go on 4chan/8chan and I'm personally friends with anyone who I would've let join anyway.

>they did it to prank you since they were gonna seceed anyhow, moron.

Kompound-senpai didn't prank me!

>you mean yourself and /k/. we've been over this

you forgot niceman and hammi!

>ultimate reddit sympathizer

fam in character or out of character it's a fucking website I'm not going to hate people from it or refuse to work with them because they browse a website. That's just silly. Not to mention in game I only have about, two friends from reddit.

>image

I said it earlier in the thread too fam don't act like it's some major relevation


 No.33805

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>>33804

>I didn't recruit from the website

>that's a specific part of the website


 No.33806

>>33805

yeah that's like saying "i recruit from all of 8chan" instead of "I recruit from a board on 8chan"


 No.33807

>>33805

>>33806

kekekekekeke

gotem


 No.33808

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>>33806

you have got to be kidding me...

If you recruit from a sub-entity of an entity - by extension you are recruiting from that entity.

If you recruit militants from Afghanistan, you are recruiting from the middle east

If ypu recruit Texan in a militia you are recruiting Americans.

if you recruit from 8chan/v/ you are recruiting from 8chan.

if you recruit from kongregate.com/forums/offtopic you are recruiting from kongregate.com

its honestly not a difficult concept...


 No.33809

>>33808

It's more accurate as it gives a better representation of what you're trying to say. OT is very different from the rest of the website and as such should be referred to as such. It's more like saying "I recruited from the world" instead of "I recruited from this country"


 No.33810

hurr durr im a faggot hurrrrrr


 No.33811


 No.33812

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>>33809

good point. The difference between kongregate.com/forums and kongregate.com/forums/offtopic is huge.


 No.33813

>>33812

Maybe not as much but the difference between the flash gaming portion and forum portion is huge. Most people on the forum don't even play flash games regularly.


 No.33814

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>>33813

Well thank fuck for that we were getting worried that the people you recruited from Kongregate played flash games. Thanks for reassuring us that you have in fact only recruited people from the forums of a site made for flash games for your /bane/ town.


 No.33815

>>33814

Every person who has joined thus far is a baneposter tbh


 No.33818

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>>33815

Baneposting is only okay in moderation, tbqh fam.

Also it's a mixture of funny and sad to see how good you are at digging holes for yourself. You never came across as *this* retarded in OT, although I guess the general user there is also dumber than they are here by a fairly considerable margin. (nicememe is a giant retard, for instance) :^)


 No.33819

>>33818

THIS ISN'T WHAT I MEANT BY SHOW SUPPORT FAM


 No.33820

>>33819

You shouldn't need to ask me to fight your battles anyway.


 No.33821

>>33820

You had me talk to your ex for you! Had me convince her to get an abortion.

but noooo god forbid you support me on an anonymous imageboard


 No.33822

>>33821

you are a baby killer?

What the fuck is wrong with you?


 No.33823

>> thread originally about apocalypse

>> derailed by logibear cancer

Pearl him & his multi accounts and ip ban him from /civ/. End this cancer once and for all.


 No.33825

>>33823

literally who the fuck takes my shitposting serious enough to be this butthurt


 No.33826

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>>33823

There is no need to be this upset. So Logi made a mistake or two. So what? I've made mistakes, everybody has made mistakes. Cian was a mistake, but it didn't actually hurt anybody, it didn't do any real damage to things, if anything people did damage to it, including Jasiel the shitter who basically flattened it the other day. (We got him and threw away the key this time too.)

Seriously, this level of assblasted-ness, serious or not, only serves to piss on the ashes of what was once a group of friends. I say give Logi a break.


 No.33827

>>33826

>I say give Logi a break

Exactly what I'm talking about...

>>33789

Jasiel was also given a second chance.


 No.33828

Patchy, Immer and Han were chanadas beat leaders tbh


 No.33829

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>>33828

>Han

>Titan, to this day, is a LITERAL smouldering crater as a DIRECT result of his lackluster decisions

>Best leader

Hang in there Ryden. You'll pull the city back together eventually.


 No.33830

>>33826

If you don't think shit stirring like this didn't contribute to the downfall of Chanada then you're blind. Sometimes cancerous tumors need to be cut off.


 No.33834

>>33830

Yes they do, but the most cancerous tumors weren't the dank memers or the idiot newfriends, it was the toxic individuals who would kill off their communities.


 No.33836

>>33833

Bg is it hard living with special needs


 No.33837

>>33836

>when in doubt, call your opponent a retard, this will surely work


 No.33838

>>33833

/pol/ survived because the shit stirrers left pol to either join /k/ or start their own country, Spainland, Cian, etc. The cancer however remained in Chanada.


 No.33839

>>33837

sorry but it gets exhausting trying to argue with you

>HanTzu was the single most destructive leader we ever had, bar none. At least the dank memers didn't kill their communities, they just neglected them. HanTzu was a greedy, asshole elitist who did not deserve the cult of personality he had. it's easy to think he's a good leader when the only people left are his friends.

Explain why HanTzu was a bad leader?

>Giving people second chances is why /pol/ynesia has survived and the other nations have died. Fostering a community, one that people enjoy being in, one that people find fun to log into daily or weekly is precisely why /pol/ynesia and Volkstadt thrive while every other Chan state has inevitably declined and fallen.

Imagine you have a toxic person. They drive away other people, but some can handle the toxic environment, so your community shrinks. And every day that passes, more and more people who can't take the toxic people leave. And soon enough, you have a whole community of toxic people who are so abrasive and nasty that 99% of people who join want nothing to do with it once they see how rotten it really is. And to boot, the toxic people actually BLAME the people who left. "Ha, they just couldn't handle our memes, they can't handle the bantz, hahaha, what faggots, go away, hahaha, we can just get more people JUST LIKE US". And soon enough, you have a whole bunch of countries that are either offshoots or controlled by this toxic group of people who cannot and will not foster a community, drive people away, and constantly take a massive, gigantic, egotistical toxic shit on top of anybody who dares to call them out on their behavior.

That is precisely what killed most of Chanada and it's what will kill Tazmily as well, make no mistake. It's what turned /K/ountry into North Korea, with Kim Jong Syncrates, it's what killed /v/iridian, /v/ersailles (koviocaust, anyone?), and Titan.

>Actually using the word toxic unironically

Titan died because all the hcfers moved on and nobody bothered trying to revive it, Versailles and Viridian died from rapid expanison, /k/ountry was shit from the beginning, and Tazmily is doing just fine.

You have literally no idea what you're talking about like usual


 No.33840

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>bg deleted his post


 No.33841

>>deleted bg post

â–¶Anonymous 11/10/15 (Tue) 13:27:46 No.33833>>33836

>>33827

Giving people second chances is why /pol/ynesia has survived and the other nations have died. Fostering a community, one that people enjoy being in, one that people find fun to log into daily or weekly is precisely why /pol/ynesia and Volkstadt thrive while every other Chan state has inevitably declined and fallen.

Imagine you have a toxic person. They drive away other people, but some can handle the toxic environment, so your community shrinks. And every day that passes, more and more people who can't take the toxic people leave. And soon enough, you have a whole community of toxic people who are so abrasive and nasty that 99% of people who join want nothing to do with it once they see how rotten it really is. And to boot, the toxic people actually BLAME the people who left. "Ha, they just couldn't handle our memes, they can't handle the bantz, hahaha, what faggots, go away, hahaha, we can just get more people JUST LIKE US". And soon enough, you have a whole bunch of countries that are either offshoots or controlled by this toxic group of people who cannot and will not foster a community, drive people away, and constantly take a massive, gigantic, egotistical toxic shit on top of anybody who dares to call them out on their behavior.

That is precisely what killed most of Chanada and it's what will kill Tazmily as well, make no mistake. It's what turned /K/ountry into North Korea, with Kim Jong Syncrates, it's what killed /v/iridian, /v/ersailles (koviocaust, anyone?), and Titan.

>>33828

HanTzu was the single most destructive leader we ever had, bar none. At least the dank memers didn't kill their communities, they just neglected them. HanTzu was a greedy, asshole elitist who did not deserve the cult of personality he had. it's easy to think he's a good leader when the only people left are his friends.


 No.33842

>>33838

But that's just not true though. /Pol/ynesia has had plenty of shit-stirrers, they didn't all run off and join /k/ountry. As for the 'cancer remaining in chanada', I really don't know what you're on about.

>>33839

>Explain why HanTzu was a bad leader?

1. He misrepresented things in order to get power, ie the nether portal. According to several people, TokyoDrifter donated a lot of End Stone, Shady, Draz, a bunch of other Titan people donated end stone that hanTzu claimed was 'his' donation, thus why he 'owned' the community portal. It's greedy at best, outright lying at worst.

2. He regularly talked down to people, outted people on the /civ/, and generally acted like a dick towards other people like Resin, who had been part of FAGT and Titan before he was.

3. He regularly would block reforms or discussion about procedures within Chanada, including the constitution, something that could have helped prevent the collapse of the Confederacy.

4. He claimed to speak for Chanada on the subreddit and would do so without being active ingame, having solely Chanadian citizenship, or even having the full support of the Chanadian members before making decisions.

5. He backstabbed Papa_Pound and Nox after all his whining to retain his dual citizenship with them and stonewalling to prevent other people from moving things forward.

In short, a leader leads and a leader is beholden to the respect of his people. HanTzu did not lead or earn people's respect as much as people like Patchy or Immer. Yes, he could lead on the battlefield and he was even respectable for some of his efforts. But a leader does not stonewall things in order to retain special privileges or try to lie or straight up jew his way into controlling public infrastructure.

All HanTzu had to do to earn my respect was say "I was wrong about outting people on the /civ/". That's it. But he couldn't even do that. Prideful and narcissistic to the end, I guess.


 No.33843

>>33842

>1. He misrepresented things in order to get power, ie the nether portal. According to several people, TokyoDrifter donated a lot of End Stone, Shady, Draz, a bunch of other Titan people donated end stone that hanTzu claimed was 'his' donation, thus why he 'owned' the community portal. It's greedy at best, outright lying at worst.

>Titan people

Was his city at the time so yeah...

>2. He regularly talked down to people, outted people on the /civ/, and generally acted like a dick towards other people like Resin, who had been part of FAGT and Titan before he was.

What did Resin ever contribute to Chanada? Just because he was an oldfag doesn't entitle him to special treatment if he didn't actually do shit. Remember when he was gonna revive Titan? Remember when he was gonna start an all new /b/ town? I don't agree with him calling people out though.

>3. He regularly would block reforms or discussion about procedures within Chanada, including the constitution, something that could have helped prevent the collapse of the Confederacy.

He was kind of hotheaded over that stuff, I won't lie. He never did any of that to sabotage Chanada as some people seem to believe though...

4. He claimed to speak for Chanada on the subreddit and would do so without being active ingame, having solely Chanadian citizenship, or even having the full support of the Chanadian members before making decisions.

When was the last time he stated he was officially speaking for Chanada? Most of the time he just subreddit pvped for us and it worked out heavily in our favor. He put his reputation to good use.

5. He backstabbed Papa_Pound and Nox after all his whining to retain his dual citizenship with them and stonewalling to prevent other people from moving things forward.

This makes him bad how?

>HanTzu did not lead or earn people's respect as much as people like Patchy or Immer

Whose respect did he fail to earn?


 No.33844

>>33842

so who are the worse shit-stirrers in pol? Want to call them out? Are they as bad as the others?

>>I really don't know what you're on about.

Chanada needed a purge of its toxic undesirables but was too content with its own stagnation to do anything.


 No.33845

>>33843

>Was his city at the time so yeah...

So because the majority of the donations were from Titan, HanTzu controlled it. Okay, I can see that. But when HanTzu stepped down from leadership, he handed it to Shadyguy, which was perfectly fine in that case. But then he started claiming ownership after renouncing it to Shady. If he owned it because of the donations from Titan, once he was no longer leader of Titan he shouldn't have owned it.

>What did Resin ever contribute to Chanada?

Every XP bottle that was made for several months in /pol/ynesia through his sand donations, among other things. Although I agree, Resin didn't do a huge amount, but he still donated far more than most people during the war.

>He never did any of that to sabotage Chanada as some people seem to believe though...

Intended no, but it had the same effect. I agree, I don't think it was malicious, just short-sighted.

>He put his reputation to good use.

And I appreciated him for it, I can concede that. But then he would make statements on the subreddit without all of Chanada agreeing or in some cases being consulted (because I don't think that a consensus was possible).

>This makes him bad how?

Because a large part of the reason he blocked reforms that could have helped maintain power in Chanada was because he was a dual citizen and didn't want rules put on him. Is it understandable? Yes, but it's just scummy to backstab people, even if they have gone full retard.

>Whose respect did he fail to earn?

I have not met a single person who joined the server within the past eight months who has any respect for HanTzu. This doesn't prove anything, but within /pol/ynesia and the surrounding territories I can assure you he failed to earn the respect of the general populace. Honestly, the only reason I have a problem with him is because he just can't admit he was wrong about two things: the nether portal ownership after he gave up Titan leadership, and the outting people on the /civ/. Everything else was and is excusable, all I ever wanted was him to admit he was wrong about those two things. I literally don't even care about the actual issues anymore, it's over and done with.


 No.33846

>>33844

Chanada needed a purge of its toxic undesirables but was too content with its own stagnation to do anything.

I agree.


 No.33847

>>33845

>Every XP bottle that was made for several months in /pol/ynesia through his sand donations, among other things. Although I agree, Resin didn't do a huge amount, but he still donated far more than most people during the war.

HanTzu contributed much more to the war than him.

>But when HanTzu stepped down from leadership, he handed it to Shadyguy, which was perfectly fine in that case. But then he started claiming ownership after renouncing it to Shady. If he owned it because of the donations from Titan, once he was no longer leader of Titan he shouldn't have owned it.

HanTzu was more active and easier to get on than Shadyguy, things would have been difficult with him as owner.

>And I appreciated him for it, I can concede that. But then he would make statements on the subreddit without all of Chanada agreeing or in some cases being consulted (because I don't think that a consensus was possible).

Examples?

>I have not met a single person who joined the server within the past eight months who has any respect for HanTzu. This doesn't prove anything, but within /pol/ynesia and the surrounding territories I can assure you he failed to earn the respect of the general populace. Honestly, the only reason I have a problem with him is because he just can't admit he was wrong about two things: the nether portal ownership after he gave up Titan leadership, and the outting people on the /civ/. Everything else was and is excusable, all I ever wanted was him to admit he was wrong about those two things. I literally don't even care about the actual issues anymore, it's over and done with.

Are you talking about Chanadian newfriends? I know Camo, Immer, and a few other Polynesia oldfags have respect for HanTzu.


 No.33848

>>33847

>HanTzu contributed much more to the war than him.

You're moving the goal posts. Resin did contribute, even if HanTzu contributed more. This doesn't mean one or the other was more or less correct because of it.

>HanTzu was more active and easier to get on than Shadyguy, things would have been difficult with him as owner.

Right, that's why we handed it off to JoshJosh as caretaker, who immediately bowed to pressure from HanTzu and gave it to him. Yet another turd in the hurricane of shit that was Chanada's collapse, a whole bunch of Tazmily people were mods on the portal or admins and co-owners, even though the original plan was to have only two from each nation with votes. But of course, we didn't do that, which fueled butthurt and resentment.

>Examples?

Not worth digging them up, I honestly don't care too much about this issue.

>Are you talking about Chanadian newfriends? I know Camo, Immer, and a few other Polynesia oldfags have respect for HanTzu.

Is it really fair to call people who have been here for 2/3ds of Chanada's lifespan newfriends? At this point, immer and camo are the only ones left in /pol/ynesia who don't count as newfriends by that metric. I'm sure if I had been there for his XP co-op in /v/iridian or during the Titan war, I would have respected him greatly too. Even now, I still respect his abilities in combat.


 No.33849

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>>33847

until Versailles I was basically the only stable and good leader in Chanada along with HanTzu and Shady.

Versailles was a mistake but anger issues and extreme depression along with a huge breakup and getting kicked out of your home will do that to you lel

haven't been able to get that spark back ever since with Minecraft or any other game sigh

I shitposted on wowg a fuck ton with my friend and got that childish joy that I haven't experienced since I went by mayaka in like 2011 on gsg. that was fun. couldn't evade the ban though so I can't do that again

why am I blogging sorry


 No.33850


 No.33852

>>33850

sorry reiko I hate myself too


 No.33853

>>33852

jk

l-love u fam


 No.33854

>>33850

Reiko, did you really delete your minecraft? I want to test my PvP skill against you.


 No.33855

>>33854

I reinstalled but I'm rusty


 No.33856

>>33853

u shouldn't tbh


 No.33857

>>33856

you're too lovable tbqh


 No.33858

File: 1447193387789.jpg (272.28 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1436303972607-1.jpg)

>>33847

In all honesty, I always felt he was in it for himself more than he was with Chanada. However, I'd be lying if I said he didn't put his back into what he worked on. His personality really got to people since he would always act more important and relevant than others, even when the topic at hand does'nt really require experience.

>but he was more important!

Fair enough, but it's still annoying as fuck and newfriends certainly didn't appreciate it.

5. He backstabbed Papa_Pound and Nox after all his whining to retain his dual citizenship with them and stonewalling to prevent other people from moving things forward.

>This makes him bad how?

Would you rather have WP win instead of Nox?

>>33848

>At this point, immer and camo are the only ones left in /pol/ynesia who don't count as newfriends by that metric

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I EXIST

>>33846

I think we do, but it's more than getting rid of undesirables. It's about changing how people think about power. We don't have control over everything (or anything for some people) in real life, so people find civcraft as a way to actually have control things and actually be important. It's not good for nations, but it's natural. Having clear rules about shit from the get go and having strong leaders should fix it (at least a little) should 3.0 happen.


 No.33859

>>33857

END ME


 No.33860

>>33859

hey kovio, what's it like taking a Bong hit instead of a joint?


 No.33861

>>33858

>Would you rather have WP win instead of Nox?

Yeah, actually I would. Guess you haven't realized yet but Nox is 1000x times worse than WP now...

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I EXIST

Inactive.


 No.33862

>>33859

leave now


 No.33863

>>33860

much more enjoyable but more likely to cough, less hot and harsh


 No.33864

File: 1447195647572.jpg (266.63 KB, 1600x1064, 200:133, roasted-duck-796275.jpg)

>when you just want to play e-legos and meme but end up getting roasted instead

come on guys I don't think I've ever done anything but shitpost


 No.33865

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>>33863

here is a picture of a bong my friend made out of a water bottle

he didn't even use it for weed he had ran out of papers


 No.33866

File: 1447200127364.jpg (86.69 KB, 440x550, 4:5, hair brushing (2).jpg)

is it time to blog about drugs

I did acid this weekend, pretty fun

kovio ur a qt


 No.33867

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>>33861

>Yeah, actually I would. Guess you haven't realized yet but Nox is 1000x times worse than WP now...

I didn't know this. What happened to nox that made it shit?


 No.33868

>>33866

I'd do Acid but I just know I'd have a bad trip

though i did take a few non-hallucinogenic shrooms in a spliff the other day and that was weird


 No.33869

>>33867

Started pearling everyone on the server including complete randoms and innocents, griefed a shitton of stuff, and attacked MTA.


 No.33870

File: 1447204473402.png (20.1 KB, 500x250, 2:1, Oekaki.png)

>>33818

>>33819

>>33820

>>33821

>>33822

utmost kek

>>33828

thanks! always nice to meet a fan. here's my autograph.

>>33842

han's a good guy. a bit of an asshole, but he was OUR asshole, ya know... He took some liberties he shouldn't have and took others that he had every right to take.

>>33846

Some people deserve second chances, others do not. You can't always know which group someone falls in until after the fact. But yeah I agree, some folks needed gassed.

>>33869

='[ muh innocent redditors. They were only calling for war and waltzing through a declared war zone. Gud bois dinnu nuffin, dey inniecen nox has indeed gone way overboard - but hey now they have the war they always wanted


 No.33871

>>33841

I wasn't really his friend lmao

We never got along, from time log before he controlled Titan

Sure he's an asshole elitist but he's smart and his Collaberation saved chanada IMO


 No.33872

>>33870

I really don't see anything wrong with nox's current actions


 No.33874

File: 1447218385735.png (1005.51 KB, 989x883, 989:883, Lightpose.PNG)

What the fuck is with this faggitory and WP shilling? Daily reminder that the WP have been nothing but shit faggot cunts to us. I like how people in this thread are turning on Nox in exactly the same way as the Wp cucks are doing right now. Majority of the shit Nox has 'supposedly' done has never happened. What the fuck are you faggots doing by going out and listening to whoever feelings got hurt the most?

>Innocents pearled

Because people who are helping an enemy regain infrastructure are innocents right? You fucking halfwits. Not to mention the fact that EVERYONE pearled was released then started fighting for the WP

>Nox betrayed us

No, Nox has always been our ally. Give an example of when they haven't came out and helped us.

I'm honestly appalled that you would let people who gave us so much help when we needed it get their shit fucked up, and do nothing but turn a blind eye.

When I decided to go out and fight with Nox the day I was banned I did it because the Mir fags where getting clear support from WP after they announced they would hunt down and eliminate any of Nox's allies after the war.

If that doesn't tick with you, realize that we are pretty much Nox's only ally at this point.

Alas though, I was banned not because I did anything wrong, I was banned because I was there and "associated" with people doing wrong. Just like the other 12 people. Out of the entire group fighting that day. Only 3 of them did wrong. Having said that, I got banned for a minimum of 3 months even though I have never had any prior convictions. Funny enough the fucking mods were in the channel with the people who we were fighting.

The cost of protecting Chanada was a great one, and it's lost for no reason now. Yeah, I'm mad that I'm banned for so long, even though I did nothing. But you guys need to pull your heads in. If you guys want to survive stop being a bunch of fucking faggots and help fuck WP up once and for all.


 No.33875

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>>33874

>help fuck WP up once and for all.

C'est impossible


 No.33876

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>>33874

>realize that we are pretty much Nox's only ally at this point.

we are under no obligation to help them. They are no longer our ally as Renial released all former allies, (the entity formerly known as chanada) SPQR, MtA ect, ect.

Though I told you not to, I couldn't stop you from aiding them, and won't publicly condemn Nox's actions - we are not currently allied with them in any way. The most I am able to do is chuckle on the sidelines when players I dislike get pearled assaulting their vault.

>tfw papa was banned for our sins,

>tfw on the 3rd month camo will rise again

>tfw reddit WP has never been more open about their lefty imperialism and doing anything to stop it would mean the death of /pol/ynesia.


 No.33877

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 No.33878

>>33874

Because people who are helping an enemy regain infrastructure are innocents right? You fucking halfwits. Not to mention the fact that EVERYONE pearled was released then started fighting for the WP

You do realize they've been pearling literal randoms right? They griefed Aurora just for speaking out against them and have been general cunts. Maybe it was only people that aided WP at first but now it's pretty much anyone.

Also don't forget that the Augustans are also our friends and used to be friends with Nox too, now look at them.

>The cost of protecting Chanada was a great one, and it's lost for no reason now. Yeah, I'm mad that I'm banned for so long, even though I did nothing. But you guys need to pull your heads in. If you guys want to survive stop being a bunch of fucking faggots and help fuck WP up once and for all.

WP is barely a thing at this point. It's just Mir, MTA, and a non pvping WP left. It's silly for you to believe the goal of Nox is still to wipe out World Police, it's to wipe out everyone...


 No.33879

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>>33875

It's possible if 3.0 happens. We would have to spend the entirety of that day attempting to progress as far as we could for the tech tree and equipment. We'd have to armor everyone as quickly as we could, and just rush them. However, they're probably expecting something like this from Nox/former Chanada so I'm assuming they'd be doing the same.


 No.33881

>>33878

fuck off xavter


 No.33882

>>33881

Not Xavter retard.

Nice argument btw


 No.33884

File: 1447240827363.png (23.53 KB, 300x384, 25:32, SMUG0090.png)

>>33878

They pearled 2 randoms and the entity of fucking Reddit is booty blasted. That being Des and ScacredWarror(Spelling?). That was it. Funny enough both are advocating the obliteration of Nox now.

>Also don't forget that the Augustans are also our friends and used to be friends with Nox too, now look at them.

Do you honestly believe that is what happened? That nothing happened and Nox just attacked them?

Just from playing and fighting along side Nox they don't attack something without a pretty fucking good purpose.

Otherwise fuck outta here reddit shill.


 No.33885

>>33884

>They pearled 2 randoms and the entity of fucking Reddit is booty blasted.

Randoms getting pearled should be something to get pissed over. Now that they've griefed Aurora, there's plenty of justification for people to be against Nox.

>Funny enough both are advocating the obliteration of Nox now.

Funny that they want the group that's trying to permapearl them for fuck-all gone?

>Do you honestly believe that is what happened? That nothing happened and Nox just attacked them?

Nox acted in retaliation to some key Augustans pearling a Nox member and not freeing that member, given the chance. These members attacked Nox because they were against the griefing of Aurora. I do however agree, Nox had justification to attack MTA.


 No.33886

>>33885

>Funny that they want the group that's trying to permapearl them for fuck-all gone?

Its been just over 2 weeks lol.


 No.33887

>>33886

>Its been just over 2 weeks lol.

ScarredWarlord and Des23 were pearled a month ago.

How long do they have to be 'permapearled without appeal' before it becomes an issue? The amount of time they've spent pearled isn't the issue. It's the fact that Nox has the intention to permanently hold them for stupid shit like signing a petition.


 No.33888

File: 1447253205991.jpg (378.7 KB, 1280x1216, 20:19, 1446840130582-2.jpg)

>>33885

>>33887

>Funny that they want the group that's trying to permapearl them for fuck-all gone?

I like how people like you get triggered over players being pearled then, as soon as someone abruptly mentions 'pearma' - even if they have no connection or aren't relevant, you go into a frenzy and demand that the players who did it be brought to your idea of justice, and perma pearled. Absolute heretical injustice.

The question I always ask is this: What on earth makes you think they are getting perma'd?

>How long do they have to be 'permapearled without appeal' before it becomes an issue?

Non channer detected. We don't do trials down here. Nor do they do it in Nox afaik.

Besides, why would you worry yourself on that topic? Nox hasn't said anything at all. Everything at this point is speculation unless you have information from the inside. Waiting for a sentence is not being permapearled.

Consider the circumstances too. They are in the middle of a war. They don't care about how long they are going to keep people locked up until the end of the war.

>It's the fact that Nox has the intention to permanently hold them

I can confirm that Nox has literally no intention to hold these people forever. Like I said before, Nox doesn't do things like this without a good reason.


 No.33891

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>>33874

>What the fuck is with this faggitory and WP shilling? Daily reminder that the WP have been nothing but shit faggot cunts to us.

This, a thousand times this.

>When I decided to go out and fight with Nox the day I was banned I did it because the Mir fags where getting clear support from WP after they announced they would hunt down and eliminate any of Nox's allies after the war.

See, I once again have to eat my words and realize that a stopped clock is right twice a day: Syncrates was right. We should have hunted Mir down and eliminated them entirely from the map when we still had the chance. We had SPQR and Herbie ready to launch an assault on their main territory, we had the numbers. We should have absolutely crushed them. Now, Chanada is dead, and if or when Nox loses, we will be hunted down.

If you ask me, we should have had an alliance nailed down with MtA, HKE, SPQR, and Yoahtl into a giant anti-WP block right from the Mir War so that we weren't relying entirely on Nox.

>inb4 HKE is irrelevant

>inb4 Yoahtl is irrelevant

Here's a preemptive 'fuck off'. HKE is rich and has enormous strategic value in a war, as well as defenses. Yoahtl has numbers. We put all our eggs in one basket, a basket that we knew was against everybody, mods included. Now I guess we can pay the price. When Mir comes a-knocking on our doorstep within the next few months, don't say I didn't warn you.

>inb4 Lux will help us

Reiko is banned, Bees quit, Daddo doesn't play much anymore, god only knows about HanJew, and nobody else is at their level that I know of, although Yearn is the closest in PvP skill. /Pol/ynesia is on its own.


 No.33892

>>33878

Agusta betrayed Nox and had it coming

I'd hardly call anyone in their vault innocent. Name one person in their who isn't helping WP or didn't help them at all.


 No.33893

>>33887

Olivay is perma'd without appeal


 No.33894

>>33891

>daddo doesn't play much anymore

I only play on my secret Alts now so I can do fun stuff

I still see all chan nations as one family that's just in a rough patch, I'd always help my fellow channers.

And always remember when I pvp there's more than just me.


 No.33898

Heeeeere we go!!!!

>>33829

Titan had a population of 0 before I got anywhere near it. That's the whole reason it was given to me, because the last remaining members of Titan quit. It was actually put to its intended use when I got it. Ryden and Mons were both ecstatic to hear what we were doing and very supportive, Shady certainly didn't mind either, but mostly just didn't care about civ anymore, though he did turn up to help us at Playpen. Draz wasn't exactly against us, lmfao...

But of course the irrelevant idiots love to run their mouths after listening to bg and resin spew bullshit that they knows nothing about for hours on end.

inb4 "resin was active!!! resin said there were other players!!!" no, and no. There was not a soul there, except visitors like MarcAFK and Flushmore who once again took interest due to new happenings brought on by me. The last remaining players had been Mons and Shady, they both quit, resing had fucked off a while before then. Maybe you can count Jarl, he had a bunker and shit there, but he was living in CW I believe.

>Titan died because all the hcfers moved on and nobody bothered trying to revive it

Pretty much that, Titan was the most alive during the war than it had been in a long time. Draz, Shady, and Ryden all tried to revive it afterwards and failed, and they're the people who ran it before me and let it die once before, not me.

At least we had fun with the game, not sitting around circlejerking and bitching about each other like the rest of you.

>>33841

>HanTzu was the single most destructive leader we ever had, bar none. At least the dank memers didn't kill their communities, they just neglected them. HanTzu was a greedy, asshole elitist who did not deserve the cult of personality he had. it's easy to think he's a good leader when the only people left are his friends.

It's still funny hearing idiots like you talk like you even had any interactions with me though, as if you know of anything I've done other than the bullshit you conspire about in your newfag clubs.

>>33842

>He misrepresented things in order to get power, ie the nether portal. According to several people, TokyoDrifter donated a lot of End Stone, Shady, Draz, a bunch of other Titan people donated end stone that hanTzu claimed was 'his' donation, thus why he 'owned' the community portal. It's greedy at best, outright lying at worst.

Bullshit. None of those people donated a single drop of endstone. All of it was either MINED from end stone towers during the event - which you're too much of a newfag to know about - and BOUGHT from hjaltland by me, with my own diamonds, in December.

Papa_Pound and Auxchar were there and helped mine some as well, but it was a negligible amount compared to the total that was purchased.

IIRC ryden may have also had a small amount in storage or helped mine one of the towers.

I will not and have never denied that Auxchar, Tokyo and Shady contributed, but they did not contribute endstone. Tokyo contributed a decent amount of diamonds (to buy pearls iirc), and I believe a fair bit quartz and glowstone. Shady worked on XP - but even that was made using a lot of my supplies, doing all the factory work, and also used some of his/titan's wealth to make purchases of other materials. Auxchar donated a stack of d blocks IIRC.

Even then, a lot of those things they contributed towards were not the full amount. A lot of my pearls were used, a lot of my quartz and glowstone was used, some of my diamonds were used, my potion supplies were used, my exp was used or xp mats were used, some of my obby iirc, etc.

None of that is a secret, I've never lied about my or other people's contributions, you just never cared to actually ask, you'd rather point fingers and throw tantrums.

>2. He regularly talked down to people, outted people on the /civ/, and generally acted like a dick towards other people like Resin, who had been part of FAGT and Titan before he was.

I talked down to people? I acted like a dick to people like resin? Yeah when he runs his mouth and talks shit 24/7 over shit he knows nothing about because he's been inactive and entirely useless, of course I'm going to be a dick to him and tell him what's what.

I literally only talk shit about people when they talk shit about me or start something with me, or with other people without knowing wtf they're talking about. Outside of that I keep to myself. Like right now, I haven't posted in weeks, I barely play, but as usual, you can't just shut the fuck up, you can't just stop being a little brat, so of course I'm going to come here and "be a dick" to you. It's because you're a fucking idiot.

>3. He regularly would block reforms or discussion about procedures within Chanada, including the constitution, something that could have helped prevent the collapse of the Confederacy.

LOL. Not once did I do such a thing. Fucking prove it or stfu. I was literally working on a criminal code and shit but you called it a "power play" so I stopped bothering. I haven't had any votes in forever, so I couldn't possibly control or put a stop to anything. Any of your initiatives that fell through are a result of your own incompetence.

>4. He claimed to speak for Chanada on the subreddit and would do so without being active ingame, having solely Chanadian citizenship, or even having the full support of the Chanadian members before making decisions.

I did not make decision for Chanada without getting majority approval or consulting others. I have never claimed to speak for Chanada, in fact, it was immer who would say that I was the "mouth of Chanada" or whatever, not me. I was vocal about my own personal opinions, or things I discussed with other leaders, nothing more, but I was not making decisions. Of course, things you would know if you cared to actually inform yourself, but instead you'd rather talk a load of crap.

>5. He backstabbed Papa_Pound and Nox after all his whining to retain his dual citizenship with them and stonewalling to prevent other people from moving things forward.

I didn't give a fuck about dual citizenship for myself. That's how stupid and oblivious you are to happenings within Chanada, you're too obsessed with the sound of your own voice and your own shitty ideas that you can't see what's going on around you. I was officially a "citizen of Nox" for maybe all of 1 week, and that was relatively recently, not while the constitution crap was happening. I argued for dual citizenship / alliances and such for AKIHABARA because you were actively trying to push them away due to their ties with Gensokyo. YOU'RE the one who pushed Aki away and made any remaining citizens leave or quit.

I also had no votes on anything so anything I ever said was my opinion and nothing more. You can't blame me if people agree with me and don't like your stupid ideas. Pushing stupid ideas forward for the sake of doing things is not productive, it's not progress, it's just idiotic.

Keep spreading lies and bullshit though, look where that got Chanada.

>hort, a leader leads and a leader is beholden to the respect of his people. HanTzu did not lead or earn people's respect as much as people like Patchy or Immer. Yes, he could lead on the battlefield and he was even respectable for some of his efforts. But a leader does not stonewall things in order to retain special privileges or try to lie or straight up jew his way into controlling public infrastructure.

More running of the mouth without proof to back up any claims.

>All HanTzu had to do to earn my respect was say "I was wrong about outting people on the /civ/". That's it. But he couldn't even do that. Prideful and narcissistic to the end, I guess.

Because I wasn't wrong, you're not entitled to shit when you're using it to destroy things that other people have put months into creating.

>>33845

>So because the majority of the donations were from Titan, HanTzu controlled it. Okay, I can see that. But when HanTzu stepped down from leadership, he handed it to Shadyguy, which was perfectly fine in that case. But then he started claiming ownership after renouncing it to Shady. If he owned it because of the donations from Titan, once he was no longer leader of Titan he shouldn't have owned it.

I was an owner on it because of my own personal contributions. Because it was my initiative to begin with. Not anybody elses. People took it over and used my personal resources (not titan's) once I was out of the picture. Those are facts. I never once complained about it, I let it happen, I let it be placed closer to Pol for the better of everyone instead of insisting it be placed closer to Titan or Versailles. Instead of people thanking me I get idiots like you bitching about it. Awesome.

I also never renounced anything to shady. Titan was given to Draz (but not my personal resources). Just proving my point about you running your mouth without knowing facts.

You talk about powergrabbing but you're the only person who gave a shit about group ownership on the netherfactory. Literally the only person who bitched. Why? Because you cannot fucking stand not controlling things. Had I been using that group ownership to actually control anything then maybe you'd have a reason to complain, but I didn't place any restriction or anything on the NF.

Meanwhile, I gave it up, and you still whine like a little bitch about it.

>Every XP bottle that was made for several months in /pol/ynesia through his sand donations, among other things. Although I agree, Resin didn't do a huge amount, but he still donated far more than most people during the war.

So, Resin helped you/pol and that's why you like him. He did fuck all in the grand scheme of things other than talk shit. He's still a shitter.

>And I appreciated him for it, I can concede that. But then he would make statements on the subreddit without all of Chanada agreeing or in some cases being consulted (because I don't think that a consensus was possible).

Proof? Other than my opinion or things that WERE passed by all the leaders, I posted no decisions on the behalf of Chanada. The last thing I posted was the ban list and that was run by Josh, Immer, Woj, Syncrates, Ryden, etc. Every single one of them agreed. Before then I probably hadn't posted any "decisions" in ages, just opinions. I even made sure my name was kept off most of the Mir was shit when people wanted to add it, because I was NOT the one making decisions.

>Because a large part of the reason he blocked reforms that could have helped maintain power in Chanada was because he was a dual citizen and didn't want rules put on him. Is it understandable? Yes, but it's just scummy to backstab people, even if they have gone full retard.

Source? Proof? Or is this more bg tier bullshit (of course it is)? I didn't block reforms by stating I don't agree with something. I had no votes. It's not my fault the rest of you are incapable of handling anything on your own. As I said, I argued against your shitty ideas for the sake of Akihabara, not for myself.

>I have not met a single person who joined the server within the past eight months who has any respect for HanTzu. This doesn't prove anything, but within /pol/ynesia and the surrounding territories I can assure you he failed to earn the respect of the general populace. Honestly, the only reason I have a problem with him is because he just can't admit he was wrong about two things: the nether portal ownership after he gave up Titan leadership, and the outting people on the /civ/. Everything else was and is excusable, all I ever wanted was him to admit he was wrong about those two things. I literally don't even care about the actual issues anymore, it's over and done with.

Because I've hardly played in that time? Because people don't know me and would rather take the bullshit you say as fact rather than to learn the truth?

>>33848

>Right, that's why we handed it off to JoshJosh as caretaker, who immediately bowed to pressure from HanTzu and gave it to him. Yet another turd in the hurricane of shit that was Chanada's collapse, a whole bunch of Tazmily people were mods on the portal or admins and co-owners, even though the original plan was to have only two from each nation with votes. But of course, we didn't do that, which fueled butthurt and resentment.

Whose plan? Your plan? Exactly. Again, you talk about "power plays" and "powergrabbing" from me or tazmily, but you don't realize that that's all you've ever been trying to do. You want to control everything, to make yourself feel relevant. The NF was not yours to control. Period.


 No.33899

>>33898

tl;dr


 No.33900

>>33891

>>33888

You guys don't know what you're talking about tbh


 No.33901

>>33894

I agree with this sentiment. Me and Hammi (probably elite too if he wasn't dealing with RL issues) would log on to assist Polynesia as well as Lux if they needed it, even though we don't play that much anymore.


 No.33904

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>>33888

>What on earth makes you think they are getting perma'd?

See image

>I can confirm that Nox has literally no intention to hold these people forever.

See image

>Nox doesn't do things like this without a good reason.

Like signing a petition?


 No.33905

>>33891

>MtA

fucking trash, 0/10 would not ally ever


 No.33906

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>>33898

Oh boy, here we go.

>you just never cared to actually ask, you'd rather point fingers and throw tantrums.

Actually, I did ask, but almost every single person I asked said that your contributions were inflated at least to some degree or disagreed that it entitled you to the portal. I didn't think to ask you because you made it very clear what your position on the subject was. I did do my research, I just didn't ask you.

>you can't just shut the fuck up, you can't just stop being a little brat, so of course I'm going to come here and "be a dick" to you. It's because you're a fucking idiot.

I'm not an idiot and I don't see you as being a dick to me. I pulled the first punch in this one, not you.

>LOL. Not once did I do such a thing. Fucking prove it or stfu.

Alright, you want proof? I'll go grab all my mumble records of you stonewalling the constitution and complaining about it, if you really want me to.

>I was literally working on a criminal code and shit but you called it a "power play" so I stopped bothering.

Bullshit. Syncrates may have, but I never complained about 'power playing'. I'd like to see proof of this criminal code, because I never even heard about it.

>I was literally working on a criminal code and shit but you called it a "power play" so I stopped bothering.

Once again, I really do wonder if people think I'm actually a literal retard. I don't just say these things because I thought them, I say them because literally over a dozen people have told me about these things and backed those opinions up. Just because you don't see something that I do doesn't mean it isn't real, it just means that we have difference perceptions and that one of us is wrong. I might very well be wrong in all of this.

>That's how stupid and oblivious you are to happenings within Chanada, you're too obsessed with the sound of your own voice and your own shitty ideas that you can't see what's going on around you.

You yourself said you're hardly active. You barely talked to me or anybody else, for that matter. If anything, I think you are the blind one, not me.

>YOU'RE the one who pushed Aki away and made any remaining citizens leave or quit.

Bullshit. I'd like proof of that, when I supported every attempt to revive Aki. If you can blame me for that, why can't I blame you for the decline of Chanada, hm?

>You can't blame me if people agree with me and don't like your stupid ideas.

But that's the real kicker: nobody I've talked to except for a VERY narrow group of people in Tazmily and occasionally some of the /pol/ leadership agreed with literally anything you proposed or said in my memory.

>Because I wasn't wrong, you're not entitled to shit when you're using it to destroy things that other people have put months into creating.

Please explain to me how exactly I was the one who lead to the 'death' and decline of Chanada? When I was the one who encouraged new settlements, proposed vital reforms that streamlined the meetings, and put a stop to some of the stonewalling that happened? Once again, what gives you the right to decide who is entitled to what, especially after you stopped being heavily involved? It's not my fault that you were blind to what was happening and simply blamed me for being there.


 No.33907

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>>33906

I don't really have a dog in this fight, but I'll vouch for bgbba being a productive member to autistic levels.


 No.33908

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>>33898

>Meanwhile, I gave it up, and you still whine like a little bitch about it.

If everybody tells me something and I then say that thing on the /civ/, can you really blame me for it? Not a single person, not even Yearn or Josh, proved or even disputed that you hadn't contributed as much as you said you had. Literally every single person I talked to raised doubts or outright said that you didn't put in as much as you claimed. So either every single other person in Chanada lied to me or you're wrong. At this point, I don't care which.

>It's not my fault the rest of you are incapable of handling anything on your own

Nice projecting. Nice hero complex you got there. Why is it that you always have to feel like you're coming to our rescue and imparting your valuable wisdom?

>Whose plan? Your plan? Exactly. Again, you talk about "power plays" and "powergrabbing" from me or tazmily, but you don't realize that that's all you've ever been trying to do. You want to control everything, to make yourself feel relevant

The only reason I ever cared at ALL about it was because Shady owned the group and we needed a new one. In order to prevent the problem of people not being able to access the nether, I proposed that somebody active from every nation be added to it, that way no one person's personal grudges could become a problem. I never gave a SINGLE TINY SHIT about owning it or controlling it myself. I literally never cared, you were the one who started caring as soon as I proposed ensuring every major nation could give their members access.


 No.33909

>>33801

>implying i meant everyone

I ment to say not everyone is ready to start a nation.

No need to be salty nigger.


 No.33910

>>33900

Go away reico macaroni

>>33904

>Circle jerk that manipulated the admins.

You know like 5 people got banned for that. Even though they had nothing to do with it.

>>33898

Holy shit fuicking autism here wtf nice

Tl;dr:

RESPONSE 1

1. No one was active in titan, that's why han took it.

2. Han BOUGHT majority of the Nether factory materials from hjaltland.

3. Auxchar, Tokyo and Shady contributed too.

WOW I DONATED 32 BLOCKS OF D. SO DID IMMER, SARAH/JONNY DONATED TOO

MEAN

4. Being a dick to someone is subjective

5. Han stop bothered power playing because it was better to do actual productive stuff

6. The duel citizenship thing was bullshit.

RESPONSE 2.

1. Han says he donated most and created the factory so that why he got it.

2. Resin helped out in pol that's why people in pol like him

3. Han never posted without the permission on behalf of Chanada, without the leaders.

4.Han never had votes in the confederacy

5.Han doesn't play enough to earn the respect of people, tells the anon he's sprouting bullshit

RESPONSE 3.

1. Han denies power playing conspiracy with Tazmily


 No.33911

>>33910

>Circle jerk that manipulated the admins.

>You know like 5 people got banned for that. Even though they had nothing to do with it.

Do you think that signing the petition is justification enough for Nox to permapearl people such as ScarredWarlord?


 No.33912

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>>33911

scarred deserves it for being so fucking autistic tbh fam


 No.33913

>>33911

Considering people got actually got banned for it then yes. Petitioning for someone to be banned on demand just because it hurt your feelings is fucking pathetic.

I'll say it again, they're in a war, and they're not going to decide until after it on the sentencing. Why should they? Chances are, that it won't be permanently you fucking mong.

I really don't understand how hard it is to keep your fucking mouth shut and not be a complete little bitch.


 No.33915

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>>33913

>Considering people got actually got banned for it then yes. Petitioning for someone to be banned on demand just because it hurt your feelings is fucking pathetic.

The admin team was able to come to a conclusion on their own terms, based on evidence and modmail. They weren't pussy-whipped by some petition. And the petition wasn't for "hurt feelings", it was because people were breaking one of the servers rules - no doxxing.

Permapearling people for signing a petition, now that's pathetic.

Don't try and pull a "but people that weren't even involved got banned too", that's not the fault of the people that signed the petition. The admins are at fault if people were banned wrongly.

>I'll say it again, they're in a war, and they're not going to decide until after it on the sentencing. Why should they? Chances are, that it won't be permanently you fucking mong.

Seems like MC already decided on the sentence. If they didn't intend on permapearling them, would it not be logical for them to not tell the people they've pearled that they're "permapearl without appeal". Makes absolute sense for someone that's been told that to believe it. If you tell people that they're going to be permapearled, chances are they're going to believe you. Seems like a fucking mongoloid thing to do - to threaten permapearl and to expect not to be taken seriously.

>I really don't understand how hard it is to keep your fucking mouth shut and not be a complete little bitch.

"s-stop disagreeing with me"


 No.33917

>>33915

Papa talked to the mod team, asked if they could post the info on TB, the mods said it was fine, then once they posted it got flak and were subject to the petition.

Once people got but blasted the mods banned those associated with Papa and SIntralin / Nox to quote "Get to the bottom of it". Then literally unbanned people after a few days of not having any evidence for an argument.

>I really don't understand how hard it is to keep your fucking mouth shut and not be a complete little bitch.

>"s-stop disagreeing with me"

Talking about ScarredWarlord being a whiny faggot. Not the that your arguing with me.


 No.33918

to be honest, you're all being a bunch of faggots. just kiss and make up.


 No.33919

I just want 3.0


 No.33922

>>33906

>Actually, I did ask, but almost every single person I asked said that your contributions were inflated at least to some degree or disagreed that it entitled you to the portal. I didn't think to ask you because you made it very clear what your position on the subject was. I did do my research, I just didn't ask you.

So you asked the wrong people, people who had little to nothing to do with it? Congrats.

>Alright, you want proof? I'll go grab all my mumble records of you stonewalling the constitution and complaining about it, if you really want me to.

Disagreeing with you is not stonewalling shit, holy fuck. I voice my god damn opinion, that's the entire point of those meetings. I also had NO VOTES. Again, just because you and the rest of the leaders are incapable of coming to a consensus does not mean I was holding you back. Just because people agreed with me over you, does not mean I was holding you back. It means your version of 'progression' was absolute shit and wasn't worth going through to begin with.

I voice my opinion and disagreed with you so you gave up? Totally my fault.

The constitution in that form was never going to go through if it required 100% approval from every nation. Aki would not have agreed with it, Tazmily was not going to agree with it. Neither of those had anything to do with me.

If it required anything less than 100% then the other nations would have just seceded and Chanada would have fallen apart much sooner (Tazmily didn't decide to secede overnight after all, it was a long time coming).

The difference between them and me is that I was actually speaking up to tell you what the problems were, so that we could work towards making something that everyone could agree on. That wasn't acceptable to you though, it's your way or the highway apparently.

>Bullshit. Syncrates may have, but I never complained about 'power playing'. I'd like to see proof of this criminal code, because I never even heard about it.

LOL HOLY SHIT. This right here is how I know you're ridiculously full of shit and that anything you say is of 0 credibility. Here:

>>29256

You and fucking resin both sperged out about >muh powerplay

because I wanted to write it to only affect outsiders for the time being.

But yeah dude, I totally bullied you and resin for no reason!!!

Inb4 a bunch of reasons and bullshit about why you flipped your shit which are entirely irrelevant to this discussion in an attempt to avoid the point.

Inb4 "seee dual citizenship stuff!!!!"

>You yourself said you're hardly active. You barely talked to me or anybody else, for that matter. If anything, I think you are the blind one, not me.

The difference is that you were trying to write up a bunch of bullshit that negatively impacted other Chanadian nations, without even speaking to them. I was not.

>Bullshit. I'd like proof of that, when I supported every attempt to revive Aki. If you can blame me for that, why can't I blame you for the decline of Chanada, hm?

Go ask reiko about why they left, or maybe even cloud will tell you. They were planning on seceding because of all your stupid shit, but eventually they just fucked off to other cities / quit entirely.

>But that's the real kicker: nobody I've talked to except for a VERY narrow group of people in Tazmily and occasionally some of the /pol/ leadership agreed with literally anything you proposed or said in my memory.

Okay? Then how are you going to blame me for shit falling through after I voice my opinion? It's either they agreed with me, and you get butthurt because your ideas don't go through, or they don't agree with me and you need to stop bitching because it was your own fault, not mine.

>>33908

>If everybody tells me something and I then say that thing on the /civ/, can you really blame me for it? Not a single person, not even Yearn or Josh, proved or even disputed that you hadn't contributed as much as you said you had. Literally every single person I talked to raised doubts or outright said that you didn't put in as much as you claimed. So either every single other person in Chanada lied to me or you're wrong. At this point, I don't care which.

Or, you know, they're misinformed because they had little to nothing to do with it? Most of the supplies were gathered in December by me and Auxchar (however some were used during the war, since they're very conveniently war materials), before versailles and most current Chanadians weren't even playing on the server yet, and I didn't go around specifically telling people from /pol/ about it (I'm sure some caught wind), they got involved in March after the war when work started being put in towards it again, which is when people like Shady and Tokyo contributed and took over. Of course people who weren't around at the time aren't going to dispute anything, it's because they don't know, and unlike you they're not going to run around spreading bullshit.

Camo mentioned that he and some others contributed, that's entirely possible, there was a thread up asking for donations. That doesn't change the fact that I had the majority contribution, especially out of any still active players, and I never denied any of those people access to the factory, in fact they were all mods or admins anyway.

>Nice projecting. Nice hero complex you got there. Why is it that you always have to feel like you're coming to our rescue and imparting your valuable wisdom?

I like how you say I'm projecting then you go and do just that. Just because I said you guys are incompetent doesn't mean I was suggesting that I was the one who would have made things right. You all literally failed to get that shit done, that's a fact.

>The only reason I ever cared at ALL about it was because Shady owned the group and we needed a new one. In order to prevent the problem of people not being able to access the nether, I proposed that somebody active from every nation be added to it, that way no one person's personal grudges could become a problem. I never gave a SINGLE TINY SHIT about owning it or controlling it myself. I literally never cared, you were the one who started caring as soon as I proposed ensuring every major nation could give their members access.

You clearly gave a major shit about it when it didn't go your way, even though there were plenty of active people still on it.

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 No.33925

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>resulting witch-hunting and community effects

AKA the petition.

Straight from the admins themselves.


 No.33926

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>>33922

>So you asked the wrong people, people who had little to nothing to do with it? Congrats.

So then literally every single Chanadian except for you and possibly a handful of others that weren't present for the literally dozens of conversations I've had on the subject are wrong? How is this my fault when literally 90% of the people in Chanada believe I'm at least valid about my suspicions?

>It means your version of 'progression' was absolute shit and wasn't worth going through to begin with.

Actually, what killed off the constitution was that meetings stopped happening. My idea wasn't shit and almost every single person in Chanada (including the oldfags) agreed that some sort of reform was necessary. Blaming me for that failure is absurd when Lux seceded due to (among other things) the lack of a constitution.

>(Tazmily didn't decide to secede overnight after all, it was a long time coming).

So the truth comes out, then. Because according to various people (and not just random newfriends, actually relevant government officials) Josh claimed that this was a snap decision. So once again, you and the oldfags engineered something without telling the rest of us, then you sit here blaming ME for the death of Chanada. Thanks, bud. :^)

>That wasn't acceptable to you though, it's your way or the highway apparently.

Pot, meet kettle. I actually compromised and outright conceded multiple points on the constitution. The only issue where I recall you really making a fuss was over the dual citizenship and outside alliances, both of which every single other Chanadian leader agreed with me on. Again, why make this personal if it's just politics?

>Inb4 "seee dual citizenship stuff!!!!"

See, but that is a perfectly valid point. Now that you mention it, I do remember the criminal code, my mistake. So you wrote a criminal code that only affected outsiders that essentially codified what we already had in practice, while allowing a MASSIVE loophole for dual citizens to do whatever they want and ambiguity about outside alliances. So, my complaint was perfectly valid: you created a criminal code that allowed you and your buddies to completely ignore any possible complaints and conflicts of interest that might come back to bite Chanada in the ass. Nice job.

>The difference is that you were trying to write up a bunch of bullshit that negatively impacted other Chanadian nations, without even speaking to them. I was not.

Bull-fucking-shit. I really don't understand where this whole negatively impacting Chanadian nations comes from. When I wrote the constitution, I BEGGED people to help out. I directly talked to members of every Chan state, the leadership of most of them, I brought it up every meeting, I CALLED meetings to get people involved in the process. I refuse to take any blame for nations being butthurt about a constitution that was never passed and they didn't raise objections to at the time. If they complained about it in private behind my back, that's their fault for not being up front about it.

>Go ask reiko about why they left, or maybe even cloud will tell you.

I really don't get this. So because the Minister of Infrastructure for /Pol/ynesia, somebody with no votes, no representation, no final say in absolutely anything raised a few objections about potential conflicts of interest, /A/kihabara was so shitter shattered that they had to quit? What a load of bogus.

>You clearly gave a major shit about it when it didn't go your way, even though there were plenty of active people still on it.

Once again, you are BLIND to the problems that confronted us. There were many days when people were asking for access and nobody could add them and this delay would go on for a long time, far longer than "just wait till tonight". The only reason I cared about it not 'going my way' is because you somehow jewed your way into owning the group and started making executive decisions for that group after all of the Chanadian leadership agreed that you owning it wasn't the best solution to the group. The solution that literally every major person with votes or any sort of relevance wanted was that Josh owned the group and every leader of a big nation would get mod or admin access. It was a perfect solution, but you couldn't handle it.


 No.33927

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>>33922

Honestly, your entire argument about me is this: I am such a massive, awful, tyrannical, horrible, dictatorial monster that I somehow managed to bully you out of reforming Chanada, bullied an entire nation off the server despite have absolutely no actual political power and only marginal, largely newfriend and reformist oldfriend support, and managed to create an environment in Chanada that led to its collapse. I somehow managed to do all this, despite having the support of a marginal amount of largely poor, PvP-incompetant, vote-less, and generally marginalized population largely concentrated into a bunch of upstart nations plus some of /pol/'s lower government and newfriends.

This means that either I am the most successful politician that Chanada has ever seen and wielded influence that is at a level few others ever have, as well as used this influence to purposefully destroy the Confederation, OR you are simply grasping at straws and trying to find reasons to hate me and will blame me for literally anything that even a single older player has ever complained about me for being somewhat marginally related to, such as the decline of /A/kihabara. Occams razor dictates that it's probably the latter.


 No.33928

>>33926

>So the truth comes out, then. Because according to various people (and not just random newfriends, actually relevant government officials) Josh claimed that this was a snap decision. So once again, you and the oldfags engineered something without telling the rest of us, then you sit here blaming ME for the death of Chanada.

We've said multiple times it was something that was discussed for a while. Are you retarded?

>I really don't get this. So because the Minister of Infrastructure for /Pol/ynesia, somebody with no votes, no representation, no final say in absolutely anything raised a few objections about potential conflicts of interest, /A/kihabara was so shitter shattered that they had to quit

Akihabara citizens were pissy that people started to listen to take the retards of Chanada seriously.

>>33923

>>33925

This still doesn't excuse their actions. I'm neutral in all of this, but it's clear Nox is in the wrong in this situation.

>>33927

You're just a part of the problem BG.


 No.33931

>>33928

>Akihabara citizens were pissy that people started to listen to take the retards of Chanada seriously.

The only thing I had much of a hand in was voting reform, which was something that other people were pushing for at the time. But I can see why /A/kihabara would have been frustrated.

>You're just a part of the problem BG.

I can accept that, honestly. I'll admit that if there's any sort of problem, I'm probably going to be involved, because I tend to get involved in just about anything that goes on.


 No.33932

>>33926

>So then literally every single Chanadian except for you and possibly a handful of others that weren't present for the literally dozens of conversations I've had on the subject are wrong? How is this my fault when literally 90% of the people in Chanada believe I'm at least valid about my suspicions?

Apparently so, yes? Because most of them a) weren't involved and b) didn't even play at the time. It's your fault if you go around spreading it and crying about it without speaking to me about it first.

>Actually, what killed off the constitution was that meetings stopped happening. My idea wasn't shit and almost every single person in Chanada (including the oldfags) agreed that some sort of reform was necessary. Blaming me for that failure is absurd when Lux seceded due to (among other things) the lack of a constitution.

Mate, you're blaming me for it not happening, saying I stonewalled it. Now you're saying it's because meetings stopped happening. Whose fault is it that the people who supposedly had so much interest in progression stopped working towards it? Not mine, it's their own fault, and that includes you. So don't blame that shit on me, then go around changing your story.

>So the truth comes out, then. Because according to various people (and not just random newfriends, actually relevant government officials) Josh claimed that this was a snap decision. So once again, you and the oldfags engineered something without telling the rest of us, then you sit here blaming ME for the death of Chanada. Thanks, bud. :^)

Me and my oldfags? This is how delusional you are that you think I have any involvement with any recent shit. I don't even fucking talk to the people in Tazmily, so get the fuck out of here with blaming me for that shit. I don't know whether it was a snap decision or not, I had nothing to do with it, I just know that it had been talked about on many separate occasions for months, including when all the constitution crap was going on, and those discussions mostly resulted in "let's see how things go first". Things obviously didn't go well, so they left, and rightly so.

>Pot, meet kettle. I actually compromised and outright conceded multiple points on the constitution. The only issue where I recall you really making a fuss was over the dual citizenship and outside alliances, both of which every single other Chanadian leader agreed with me on. Again, why make this personal if it's just politics?

No, they absolutely did not agree with it, if they did then there wouldn't have been any problems and the constitution would have gone through on the spot. Aki 100% did not agree, because of Gensokyo and you basically trying to take away their rights, and IIRC Josh did not agree either but I could be misremembering.

But of course, in your shitty powertripping mind you think /k/ and /pol/ made up all of Chanada.

>See, but that is a perfectly valid point. Now that you mention it, I do remember the criminal code, my mistake. So you wrote a criminal code that only affected outsiders that essentially codified what we already had in practice, while allowing a MASSIVE loophole for dual citizens to do whatever they want and ambiguity about outside alliances. So, my complaint was perfectly valid: you created a criminal code that allowed you and your buddies to completely ignore any possible complaints and conflicts of interest that might come back to bite Chanada in the ass. Nice job.

You're so full of shit if you think that's at all what any of that says. The point was to define citizenship, so as to impose laws on non-citizens within Chanada, while allowing each nation to continue handling all internal matters internally without interference from the rest of Chanada, which is how things were always meant to be. If you think it's anything other than that or some form of powerplay then you're just flat out insane and looking for reasons to bitch at me that aren't there.

>Bull-fucking-shit. I really don't understand where this whole negatively impacting Chanadian nations comes from. When I wrote the constitution, I BEGGED people to help out. I directly talked to members of every Chan state, the leadership of most of them, I brought it up every meeting, I CALLED meetings to get people involved in the process. I refuse to take any blame for nations being butthurt about a constitution that was never passed and they didn't raise objections to at the time. If they complained about it in private behind my back, that's their fault for not being up front about it.

TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI. TALK TO AKI.

How many times do I have to say it? Or go ask Reiko, he's aware of how they felt as well.

I literally BROUGHT UP THEIR CONCERNS FOR THEM, and because of that you're saying i stonewalled the entire constitution, simply for voicing people's complaints. God damn.

>Once again, you are BLIND to the problems that confronted us. There were many days when people were asking for access and nobody could add them and this delay would go on for a long time, far longer than "just wait till tonight". The only reason I cared about it not 'going my way' is because you somehow jewed your way into owning the group and started making executive decisions for that group after all of the Chanadian leadership agreed that you owning it wasn't the best solution to the group. The solution that literally every major person with votes or any sort of relevance wanted was that Josh owned the group and every leader of a big nation would get mod or admin access. It was a perfect solution, but you couldn't handle it.

Once again, you're making up LOADS of bullshit. Your problem was never that there weren't other mods. Your problem was STRICTLY that I was an owner on it, even when all the other mods and admins were left on it.

I made literally no executive decision for that group, proof, source? Back up your claims for once. You can't because you're full of shit and just want to whine like a bitch. I was added as an owner and from that point I didn't touch the fucking group except to add people when asked, or to work on defences around the NF when Josh asked for my help.


 No.33933

>>33928

>This still doesn't excuse their actions. I'm neutral in all of this, but it's clear Nox is in the wrong in this situation.

Not claiming that it excuses anything, but it's relevant to the discussion they were having. Bans were absolutely because of public outrage and the server's 'image', not because of any rules being broken.


 No.33934

>>33932

>But of course, in your shitty powertripping mind you think /k/ and /pol/ made up all of Chanada.

Your projection is astounding. Regardless of what /A/kihabara thought, it WAS a conflict of interest for them to be part of Gensokyo, although the real solution to that was just to have a mutual defense pact with Gensokyo so that you couldn't have had those conflicts. Once again, I never wanted to strip /A/kihabara of its rights, I wanted to help keep Chanada solid and safe, without the possibility of conflicts of interest. How is this a power trip?

>The point was to define citizenship, so as to impose laws on non-citizens within Chanada

Right, but it still didn't eliminate the inherent problems with dual citizenship. My point still stands.

>Your problem was STRICTLY that I was an owner on it, even when all the other mods and admins were left on it.

It became my problem, but it wasn't the original problem. It was only a problem because it was handed to you after Chanada's leadership voted and agreed on how it should be handled.

>I made literally no executive decision for that group, proof, source?

You added Yearn. I could dig up the thread where it gets brought up, assuming it's not slid off the board already. You claimed that was your sole perogative. I'm not saying this just to whine, at this point I don't care if you think I am.

All you do is say that I'm am literally hitler, but as I said before, your entire claim revolves around me somehow having such drastic levels of influence that I managed to ruin Chanada.


 No.33936

>>33934

>Your projection is astounding. Regardless of what /A/kihabara thought, it WAS a conflict of interest for them to be part of Gensokyo, although the real solution to that was just to have a mutual defense pact with Gensokyo so that you couldn't have had those conflicts. Once again, I never wanted to strip /A/kihabara of its rights, I wanted to help keep Chanada solid and safe, without the possibility of conflicts of interest. How is this a power trip?

Yeah dude, I'm always projecting when I call you out on your bullshit, that's obviously it! Fuck your conflicts of interest, people are allowed to run shit however the fuck they please, and there were alternatives to that that I even suggested besides saying "it's us or fuck off", but you wouldn't have any of that.

>Right, but it still didn't eliminate the inherent problems with dual citizenship. My point still stands.

There were no problems with dual citizenship. They were either Chanadian or they weren't, same as any other time. The only problems were imaginary ones in your head that were never ever an issue.

>It became my problem, but it wasn't the original problem. It was only a problem because it was handed to you after Chanada's leadership voted and agreed on how it should be handled.

Who gives a shit what they voted on? It wasn't their business to decide, that's the entire point.

>You added Yearn. I could dig up the thread where it gets brought up, assuming it's not slid off the board already. You claimed that was your sole perogative. I'm not saying this just to whine, at this point I don't care if you think I am.

Yes, I added Yearn? I did say I added people, and I was expecting a ban at the time (dukestonezy crap) so I added Yearn to all of my groups as my successor, get the fuck over it, I was rightfully an owner of the group, and as such I could pass on that ownership if I so pleased. You make it sound like I or she started adding a bunch of restrictions to the group, which never happened. Fuck off and mind your own business.

>All you do is say that I'm am literally hitler, but as I said before, your entire claim revolves around me somehow having such drastic levels of influence that I managed to ruin Chanada.

You run around spewing bullshit so much and stating so many inaccuracies as facts that all of the newfriends believe you which leads to a bunch of shitters who don't know what they're talking about. So yes, you ruined Chanada by doing that.

You wanted to put all of these damn restrictions on everything and try to get every nation to run things the way *you* wanted instead of the way they wanted, which went against everything Chanada was meant to be about.


 No.33941

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>>33936

>people are allowed to run shit however the fuck they please

Not if their relationships could force us into a war they aren't. I liked /a/kihabara, I didn't want to see us dragged into a war because of the HKE if we weren't allied to the HKE.

>I even suggested besides saying "it's us or fuck off", but you wouldn't have any of that.

Proof?! Once again, you're acting like I had some sort of say in all this. You didn't have votes, but then again, neither did I. How could I possibly stop your suggestion? How about I use your logic: your suggestion failed because it was shit, otherwise it would have passed. :^)

>There were no problems with dual citizenship. They were either Chanadian or they weren't, same as any other time.

Do you understand what a dual citizen is? I would have accepted a compromise in the constitution of any dual citizens having to put their Chanadian citizenship first and whatever other one second, but none of this "I'm five different country's citizens at once. :^)" garbage.

>It wasn't their business to decide, that's the entire point.

But it was. The nether portal group was owned by Shadyguy, who was never on, and there were entire nations who couldn't add people to it. We created a new group to deal with this, with JoshJosh being decided upon as the right decision. Maybe you did donate the most, but you were inactive and the current group was under Shadyguy. A deal was struck that suited everybody's interests, and then you had to come in and ruin it, causing massive butthurt by /K/ountry and other nations, further alienating them from Tazmily and /Pol/ynesia, while giving them ammunition in their proof of the 'oldfriend conspiracy'. Instead of calmly addressing this, you sperged out and told everybody that it was yours and yours alone like a jew with a jar of pennies, and told everybody else to fuck off. Were you wrong? Not necessarily, but the way you presented yourself in that situation harmed inter-chan relations significantly.

>Fuck off and mind your own business.

It's my business when it's a politically charged issue regarding a community asset. Unless you claim that it wasn't a community asset, in which case that's garbage, because it was also inside /Pol/ynesian territory and technically as Minister of Infrastructure I had every right to be involved. If I had made a DRO box around the portal out of my own pocket, locked people out, and then said "well, it's my box, you can't tell me I don't have the right to do this", would I be in the right?

>You wanted to put all of these damn restrictions on everything and try to get every nation to run things the way *you* wanted instead of the way they wanted, which went against everything Chanada was meant to be about.

I never gave a single fuck how nations ran themselves internally. Not one. Stop putting words into my mouth. The only things I ever cared about were two or three issues regarding potential conflicts of interest that could potentially lead to problems within the Confederacy. Name a single time that I tried to tell other nations how to internally manage themselves when that issue had no potential to drag /pol/ynesia into a war or didn't give an inflated power within Chanada that they didn't really have. Please, name one time.


 No.33942

>>33941

>Not if their relationships could force us into a war they aren't. I liked /a/kihabara, I didn't want to see us dragged into a war because of the HKE if we weren't allied to the HKE.

That would never happen, you wouldn't be obligated to join in on other people's wars. Don't be stupid.

>Proof?! Once again, you're acting like I had some sort of say in all this. You didn't have votes, but then again, neither did I. How could I possibly stop your suggestion? How about I use your logic: your suggestion failed because it was shit, otherwise it would have passed. :^)

Last time you asked for proof, I provided it, yet you've failed to provide any evidence on any of your claims. I don't need to prove anything because I'm not the one making threads bitching about you non-stop, I'm just responding to your bullshit. My logic is sound, my idea didn't fail. The constitution which I did not agree with did not end up going through, sounds like a victory to me. So I don't see any problems here or anything that I need to prove.

>Do you understand what a dual citizen is? I would have accepted a compromise in the constitution of any dual citizens having to put their Chanadian citizenship first and whatever other one second, but none of this "I'm five different country's citizens at once. :^)" garbage.

Do you? clearly you don't. That's also the exact thing I suggested we do.

>But it was. The nether portal group was owned by Shadyguy, who was never on, and there were entire nations who couldn't add people to it. We created a new group to deal with this, with JoshJosh being decided upon as the right decision. Maybe you did donate the most, but you were inactive and the current group was under Shadyguy. A deal was struck that suited everybody's interests, and then you had to come in and ruin it, causing massive butthurt by /K/ountry and other nations, further alienating them from Tazmily and /Pol/ynesia, while giving them ammunition in their proof of the 'oldfriend conspiracy'. Instead of calmly addressing this, you sperged out and told everybody that it was yours and yours alone like a jew with a jar of pennies, and told everybody else to fuck off. Were you wrong? Not necessarily, but the way you presented yourself in that situation harmed inter-chan relations significantly.

No, it was not. Period. That's not up for discussion. It was property, it was owned by certain people (read: majority owned by me), it didn't not belong to the confederation and was not up to vote.

I didn't go around causing any problems, I asked Josh to add me as an owner and that was the end of it. I didn't go around bitching at people about their crappy decisions or attempts to take things which didn't belong to them. It was, once again, YOU who through an absolute bitch fit over it and made it into a huge deal.

>It's my business when it's a politically charged issue regarding a community asset. Unless you claim that it wasn't a community asset, in which case that's garbage, because it was also inside /Pol/ynesian territory and technically as Minister of Infrastructure I had every right to be involved. If I had made a DRO box around the portal out of my own pocket, locked people out, and then said "well, it's my box, you can't tell me I don't have the right to do this", would I be in the right?

An asset for the community, not owned by it, however. It was a privately owned asset

>I never gave a single fuck how nations ran themselves internally. Not one. Stop putting words into my mouth.

Already been covered, so I don't see how you could deny it.

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 No.33949

>>33942

>That would never happen, you wouldn't be obligated to join in on other people's wars. Don't be stupid.

And what happens when Gensokyo gets into a war and the enemy wants access through /Pol/ynesia? Either we betray our friends or we get stomped on the way. My complaint was pretty valid for its time, although I agree I made a bigger deal out of it than I needed to or should have.

>My logic is sound, my idea didn't fail.

You literally just said right above us in this thread that I am the reason your criminal code got shut down, because I somehow bullied you into stopping. It's right up there in the wall of text, so either you're a pussy who got pushed around by me of all people or you're just straight up making shit up.

>clearly you don't. That's also the exact thing I suggested we do.

>clearly you don't

>NO U

Allow me to quote what you said just a while ago: "They were either Chanadian or they weren't". The word 'dual' is an adjective in the English Language meaning two things held simultaneously in the affirmative. It is the opposite of a binary value. You said "They were either Chanadian or they weren't", which is binary. Dual citizenship means they were both Chanadian and something else at the same time.

>It was property, it was owned by certain people

Your argument keeps changing, Mr. Slippery. First it was "I own it" and now it's "a lot of people 'owned' it, but I was the majority stakeholder'. Let me tell you something about /Pol/ynesian territorial law: Everything is under the command of immerRichTig. All infrastructure, all buildings, all personal wealth, all citizenship, EVERYTHING. That portal was made in our territory, which means that technically, WE owned it, if we really want to go down that road, we just never pressed the claim. You still didn't answer my charge, Mr. Slippery: If I made a DRO box around the portal for myself and controlled access with my own personal wealth, is that unfair?

>It was, once again, YOU who through an absolute bitch fit over it and made it into a huge deal.

Because we agreed that you shouldn't be the caretaker of the group. I can concede that you owned the portal, but the group should have been managed as we decided it was right to.

>Already been covered, so I don't see how you could deny it.

You're dodging the question. Please name every time I intervened in the domestic affairs of any nation?

>inb4 MUH DUAL CITIZENSHIP

Fuck off. Citizenship is not a domestic affair, it is an international affair. I never cared what people did internally, I only cared when a foreign power could use a loophole to slip in. Like what happened with Mir, come to think of it. Technically, Laily dindu nuffin, because we never passed a 'no handing land to hostile redditors' rule.


 No.33957

>>33949

>And what happens when Gensokyo gets into a war and the enemy wants access through /Pol/ynesia? Either we betray our friends or we get stomped on the way. My complaint was pretty valid for its time, although I agree I made a bigger deal out of it than I needed to or should have.

Chanada was private, nobody was entitled to any "access through /Pol/ynesia" it was a non issue. Your complaint is not valid.

>You literally just said right above us in this thread that I am the reason your criminal code got shut down, because I somehow bullied you into stopping. It's right up there in the wall of text, so either you're a pussy who got pushed around by me of all people or you're just straight up making shit up.

No I did not. I said that I stopped bothering because you and resin bitched about powerplays. That's me taking full responsibility for never completing it, unlike you who tries to flat out blame me for "stonewalling the constitution". Improve your god damn reading comprehension.

I said it wasn't worth my time to go through with because of idiots whining about everything, I didn't say you you put an end to it somehow.

>Allow me to quote what you said just a while ago: "They were either Chanadian or they weren't". The word 'dual' is an adjective in the English Language meaning two things held simultaneously in the affirmative. It is the opposite of a binary value. You said "They were either Chanadian or they weren't", which is binary. Dual citizenship means they were both Chanadian and something else at the same time.

If they're Chanadians and something else, they're STILL CHANADIANS. Fucking hell you're dense.

>Your argument keeps changing, Mr. Slippery. First it was "I own it" and now it's "a lot of people 'owned' it, but I was the majority stakeholder'. Let me tell you something about /Pol/ynesian territorial law: Everything is under the command of immerRichTig. All infrastructure, all buildings, all personal wealth, all citizenship, EVERYTHING. That portal was made in our territory, which means that technically, WE owned it, if we really want to go down that road, we just never pressed the claim. You still didn't answer my charge, Mr. Slippery: If I made a DRO box around the portal for myself and controlled access with my own personal wealth, is that unfair?

My argument is not changing. You're cherrypicking irrelevant bits. It doesn't fucking matter if there was one owner or 100, the point is that it was private property, not owned by the Chanadian confederation, and as such, not up to them to vote on how it was handled.

If you wanted to go that route and tried forcefully taking over other people's property, then the netherfactory would have quickly ceased to exist, and you would have been bitching even more, mr. tough guy. The NF was placed in Pol to benefit as many people as possible, it wasn't you guys doing anyone else a favour, it was us doing you a favour, so fuck off you whiny cunt.

Your question is completely irrelevant to the discussion, I have no need to answer it.

>Because we agreed that you shouldn't be the caretaker of the group. I can concede that you owned the portal, but the group should have been managed as we decided it was right to.

Again, it's not relevant that you guys agreed to anything, it wasn't up to you to decide. The only reason for it was because you were on a powertrip.

>You're dodging the question. Please name every time I intervened in the domestic affairs of any nation?

Not dodging shit, just not wasting time going over things we've already been over. Either improve your reading comprehension or fuck off.

>Fuck off. Citizenship is not a domestic affair, it is an international affair. I never cared what people did internally, I only cared when a foreign power could use a loophole to slip in. Like what happened with Mir, come to think of it. Technically, Laily dindu nuffin, because we never passed a 'no handing land to hostile redditors' rule

Citizenship is 100% domestic. It's not up to the leaders of other nations to decide who gets to be a citizen in each individual nation.

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 No.33962

>>33957

Aki was sorta like Austria being part of the Holy Roman Empire, and part of the Habsburg kingdom of Austria Hungary.

historically the two were often dragged to war because of this.. and no foreign power would have allowed Austria to hide its affiliation with either Hungary or HRE in a conflict.


 No.33964

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>>33957

>Chanada was private, nobody was entitled to any "access through /Pol/ynesia" it was a non issue. Your complaint is not valid.

So basically, if Gensokyo got into a war, we would be obligated to defend them by refusing to allow anybody against them to access it. So actually yes, it would have a very high potential to drag us into a war.

>No I did not. I said that I stopped bothering because you and resin bitched about powerplays.

So because two people who are, according to you, a irrelevant shitter and a bullying powertripper, complained about a 'power play', which I later conceded wasn't even all that valid of a complaint, you stopped working on it? How fragile of an ego do you have?

>If they're Chanadians and something else, they're STILL CHANADIANS. Fucking hell you're dense.

If I was a dual citizen of Carson and Chanada, would that be a problem? Can't you see how that is slightly worrying? How that could lead to problems? How could I trust somebody like that?

>Your question is completely irrelevant to the discussion, I have no need to answer it.

It's completely relevant to the discussion, because the same basic assumptions apply. It's private property, therefore I can do whatever the hell I want with it, because it's mine.

>The only reason for it was because you were on a powertrip.

Muh powertrip. Dude, you're just grasping at this point. I wasn't on a 'powertrip', all I wanted was to prevent people from being locked off of the nether factory group because the only people who were mods and admins were all inactive. When the new group was made, I (and everybody else) was perfectly fine, except for you, who just couldn't stand the fact that a community asset which was made to allow people to use it freely, through your own decree, wasn't your personal property.

>Either improve your reading comprehension or fuck off.

I have excellent reading comprehension and at no point have I seen you list anything or so much as raise any actual points. All you've said is that I tried to ram things down nation's throats in the domestic realm, which is NOT TRUE. I only ever cared about the international affairs and inter-chan relations.

>Citizenship is 100% domestic. It's not up to the leaders of other nations to decide who gets to be a citizen in each individual nation.

It is when you have a single foreign policy and a mutual defense assumption. My official position is this and was during most of the constitutional process: Any nation can choose to allow dual citizenships if both citizenships are Chanadian, however a primary residence must be declared in order to prevent voting fraud. Any outside citizenships held must be from an allied or friendly nation that has no problem with any single member of the Confederacy and any dual citizens in this situation must consider themselves Chanadian first and foremost and not be a risk of betrayal, treason, or spying.

I think that is an extremely reasonable position, very few people had an issue with that once I conceded that 'no dual citizens' was a little bit unfair.


 No.33965

>>33957

>inb4 b-b-b-b-but Cloud told me x,y,z about how bg killed aki

Cloud originally hated me because he claimed I had an annoying voice and when I tried to apologize for pissing him off for various reasons he memed and shatposted until I just stopped engaging.

The jury is in, straight from the horse's mouth. Reiko, WojtekPaint, and Centipede all do not blame me for the death of /a/kihabara beyond an extremely indirect role in contributing to some of the trends that led to its eventual decline. I remember a few weeks ago, Spazzy refused to blame me as well. So no matter what Cloud says, the vast majority of /a/kihabara does NOT claim that I killed them. You said ask /a/ki, so I did, and I guess I was right that I wasn't directly at fault.


 No.33967

>>33965

tbh you were the biggest reason cloud himself left and he was like half of aki at the time so it could be argued you killed off half of the aki population

get fucked lad


 No.33970

>>33881

fuck dude I rarely use anon I don't even have a stake in this argument


 No.33975

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>>33967

sounds like it was already dead if only two people were left

>>33965

you don't have to defend yourself anymore bg. You'll just be remembered as a player that was both hugely irrelevant but able to make entire cities quit at the same time


 No.33982

I thought Aki died because civcraft was too autistic for them, that's what every1 in /a/ TS said.


 No.34003

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>>33982

>I thought Aki died because civcraft was too autistic for them, that's what every1 in /a/ TS said.

We can't be THAT autistic


 No.34013

>>34003

>We can't be THAT autistic

That's why /k/ left too, tho


 No.34017

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>>34013

I thought they left because THEY were too autistic, at this point anyone calling anyone autistic is the pot calling the kettle black

Pic unrelated, autism at my local bookstore


 No.34019

>>33982

Pretty much this tbqh fam


 No.34020

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 No.34031

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>>34017

Nano, get that image outta here.

>>34020

Nice, immer.


 No.34035

>>34017

The mumble seems to be up still, ask them yourself.

Also holy shit the cringe


 No.34039

>>33975

>sounds like it was already dead if only two people were left

yeah, that's what I said in the other thread

>>33982

wait. so if I was the last one left in aki, does that mean I was the most autistic?

nice




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