/civ/ - CivCraft

>>35936

>1. You guys will never be able to secure an entire shard.

Just watch us faggot

>2. Attempting to lock down or secure a shard will alienate people especially if you do it very early on.

>implying we give a shit about what ledditors think about us

>implying we can't defend against them

>3. Beginning of the map will probably be shitty but there's no need to be so paranoid over raiders. Civcraft is a server people actually care about and are invested in, they don't want to get pearled for shit they did in the beginning of the map. If people fuck with you, screenshot everything and keep evidence. Use that against them later on and pearl them.

Ok...

>4. People don't care about you guys as much as you think. Just don't act like autistic memers in serious situations and stop being so retarded.

This contradicts #2.

>5. Don't enable shitters. Please remember Darkcrow, Kallak, Kompound, etc

>6. Don't focus too heavily on PvP, not everyone has to be a PvPer.

Levee en masse won wars for Napoleon, and it'll win wars for us too. Being able to field the entirety of our population in warfare will improve defence and power projection.

>7. It takes months to actually get decent at it.

Ok...

>8. The whole idea of 8chan vs 4chan will kill you guys.

Does cuckchan even play civcraft? If they do I don't think they should be allowed into our city but they're definitely a large step above ledditors.

>>35942

>implying we give a shit about what ledditors think about us

>implying we can't defend against them

Hello newfag.

>This contradicts #2.

No it doesn't. People won't bother you unless you act like fags.

>Levee en masse won wars for Napoleon, and it'll win wars for us too. Being able to field the entirety of our population in warfare will improve defence and power projection.

Confirms your newfag status. Or maybe you're just mentally challenged?

>Does cuckchan even play civcraft? If they do I don't think they should be allowed into our city but they're definitely a large step above ledditors.

Gj being cancer.

>>35945

I will explain later on when I'm not on mobile.

This shit has been explained dozens of times before though.

>>35952

get out of my thread.

PvP doesn't take months

It's a natural born ability

>>35936

Referencing point 3 specificially, early raiders fucked my group's early 2.0 work. Having all your shit stolen just leads to a cause and effect of everything going to hell since nobody wants to login to repair all the grief that was left at 4 in the morning again.

Kovio could probably tell some interesting stories about that.

Also if I'm not mistaken it was kovio who started what would become chanada by advertising on 4chan anyway

>>36020

Sashiimi from CW was the original 4chan shill I believe

>>36026

Yes that's why I said 4chan

>>35936

>1. You guys will never be able to secure an entire shard.

Agreed to an extent.

1. We could claim a whole shard with one or two allies with us, depending on the size of the shard (definitely a small one).

2. Depending on the portal type, we most likely can't 'secure' it to an extent that others can't get in.

>2. Attempting to lock down or secure a shard will alienate people especially if you do it very early on.

I feel this only applies if we try to claim a whole shard ALONE. The whole 'claiming one shard for ourselves by ourselves' thing was only really considered when we thought for whatever reason shards were going to be like 1-1.5k radius.

>3. Beginning of the map will probably be shitty but there's no need to be so paranoid over raiders. Civcraft is a server people actually care about and are invested in, they don't want to get pearled for shit they did in the beginning of the map. If people fuck with you, screenshot everything and keep evidence. Use that against them later on and pearl them.

Agreed

>4. People don't care about you guys as much as you think. Just don't act like autistic memers in serious situations and stop being so retarded.

Agreed

>5. Don't enable shitters. Please remember Darkcrow, Kallak, Kompound, etc

For one, I don't think Darkcrow, Kallak, or Kompound were that bad. Darkcrow and Kallak got into trouble early on but they did manage to become a good part of Polynesia and then /k/. Kompound literally didn't do anything to hurt the rest of Chanada until their suicide. I personally view Syncrates as one of the best leaders in 2.0, but not necessarily for in-game actions as his reign was too short and I don't know that much about his decisions. Syncrates was a great leader because I go on to their mumble once every other week or so (please give me permission to enter your chat if you're reading this k guys :'( ) and I see the same group of people still playing different games together. Syncrates was great because he managed to turn a group of people disgruntled and disillusioned with civcraft and most of Chanada into a community that still plays games together to this day. Though imo they shouldn't have banned people like ras from their mumble a bit childish tbh.

Furthermore, in terms of actual shitters, what could we do to 'not enable' them? Thinking back on it all there's only one shitter that we could have done anything to 'prevent' and that was Jasiel. Most shitters end up shitting before we could realistically do anything about it.

>6. Don't focus too heavily on PvP, not everyone has to be a PvPer.

Most of the population should be doing a few PvP matches a day. There's no detriment to that and it will only strengthen us.

>8. The whole idea of 8chan vs 4chan will kill you guys.

Agreed. I'd change this more to 'the whole idea of us vs them' because it can be applied in many more scenarios. Like us vs reddit.

>>36032

>jasiel

aha oh god i remember when that shit was going on

also since when was there some 8ch vs. 4chan shit going on? Are there people who plan on playing civcraft who are that petty?

>For one, I don't think Darkcrow, Kallak, or Kompound were that bad. Darkcrow and Kallak got into trouble early on but they did manage to become a good part of Polynesia and then /k/. Kompound literally didn't do anything to hurt the rest of Chanada until their suicide. I personally view Syncrates as one of the best leaders in 2.0, but not necessarily for in-game actions as his reign was too short and I don't know that much about his decisions. Syncrates was a great leader because I go on to their mumble once every other week or so (please give me permission to enter your chat if you're reading this k guys :'( ) and I see the same group of people still playing different games together. Syncrates was great because he managed to turn a group of people disgruntled and disillusioned with civcraft and most of Chanada into a community that still plays games together to this day. Though imo they shouldn't have banned people like ras from their mumble a bit childish tbh.

Furthermore, in terms of actual shitters, what could we do to 'not enable' them? Thinking back on it all there's only one shitter that we could have done anything to 'prevent' and that was Jasiel. Most shitters end up shitting before we could realistically do anything about it.

After the Versailles incident Darkcrow and Kallak were preaching Pol pride and that Versailles was an enemy. They also said they'd never see us as allies and other shit.

I don't think keeping people like that around was very smart at all.

Syncrates was a paranoid wreck and fed his citizens lies constantly, he thought Tazmily was collaborating with Mir when we were the ones that fought them the most.

They'd constantly complain the server was too autistic and they just wanted to have fun but then they'd complain they weren't involved enough in Chanadian politics. Yearn and Josh were nothing but kind and understanding to them but they still talked shit to us constantly and stirred shit.

I would have fine with them seceding but all they did was bitch and complain and act like we were their problem when in reality, they made us their problem.

People like that shouldn't be allowed to stick around.

>Most of the population should be doing a few PvP matches a day. There's no detriment to that and it will only strengthen us.

I mean this is fine but like everyone wants to get super good and it's not gonna happen.

Just saying not everyone has to go ham.

>>36020

tbh it doesn't take long to get 'decent enough' at pvp. You can get to like 80% as good as a good player in a few days, and that's good enough in a 2v1 scenario to at worst not die and at best chase them off (which is the worst odds you should be fighting at regardless unless you consider yourself actually good at pvp). A week or two and you can be indistinguishable from all but the clickiest people living next-door to the datacenter.

>>36038

Took me 6 hours of practice a day for 3 months to reach the point when I was able to teach you, then it took the same amount of time for another 2 months to hit my old high point. After hitting that it's been super easy to take month long brakes from practice and then practice 2 hours a week and still be great.

Keep practicing lads

>>36041

>80% as good as a good player in a few days

No...

> A week or two and you can be indistinguishable from all but the clickiest people living next-door to the datacenter.

Pls stop

>>35993

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>>36046

Shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

tbh