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Writer: Kelly Thompson (Mr. & Mrs. X, West Coast Avengers)

Artist: Carmen Carnero (X-Med Red)

Colorist: Tamra Bonvillain (Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, Multiple Man)

Cover: Amanda Conner and Paul Mounts

Release Month: January 2019



This is getting embarrassing. It’s like they relaunch her every couple of months now.


Again? Didn't she just start a new series? No matter how many times they relaunch this character, she won't be interesting or likable.


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>Release Month: January 2019

>Captain Marvel film release: March 8, 2019 (United States)

I love that they ignore her original outfit. And pretend she was always Manvers.



She works as a hot headed plot device for other characters, that’s about it. I really don’t see how they could ever make her a good character that could stand on her own.


>dyke hair is gone

>she have he face of a 2bucks porn slut

I have mixed feefee about this



Speaking of which, how many relaunches have there been in the last couple years? Not just of Ms. Manface, I mean in general.


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Will she act like a normal person or some 4th wave cunt feminazi?




Oh great, another 9 panel page as the first page that tells us how amazing the female character is.


I unironically used to think Ms. Marvel was hot, but after the dyke redesign I just never found another comic book character hot ever again.


I never got the costume redesign for her. It looks so generic compared to her earlier costumes. They don't really stand out as much.


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So like most casual observers, I know nothing about Ms. Marvel, especially Carrol Danvers.

Can someone tell me of her most notable stories, plots and character arcs? No crossovers.



Her only notable, not good or defining, stories are the one where her son from the future rapes her so she gives birth to him and the time when she was I guess fused with Rogue.



She was an alcoholic once. Apparently got drained by Rogue and they had a feud. Plus the rapist-incest baby from he future the other anon said.

Honestly, the only time I ever saw her as acceptable was in the Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon.




So why are they pushing her so hard if she's so unremarkable? Just Civil War 2? No other good women to use?



Because Marvel is incompetent at handling their characters. Female ones especially. There's also something that started around like 2010 with a fake fan group for Carol Danvers getting traction on tumblr or something.



>if she's so unremarkable?

whoa, Brie Larson was born to play this role.



>around like 2010 with a fake fan group for Carol Danvers getting traction on tumblr

I always wonder how much better things would be if Tumblr was never made. They've done nothing but corrupt and ruin.



Only time I was interested in her was when she got the sexy costume change and some shit from Marvel Zombies.


>she has long hair and breasts again

marvel just take her to the ditch and shoot her, she was never all that interesting anyway



Because when the MCU exploded they wanted their own Wonder Woman. The problem was that up until this point the female characters most often used in merchandise were X-Men. Storm in particular, as she was popular and checked off 2 diversity checkboxes. But when the edict came down to stop using X-Men and FF characters in merchandise, Marvel wasn't left with anyone who could operate on the level of a Iron Man or Thor. So they made the decision to make Carol into Captain Marvel. It helps them keep the trademark, "upgraded" a character that was often seen as being problematic, and gave them their Wonder Woman.

Problem was they only cared about making her place in the MU important, but did zero work on the character front. And every relaunch they'd give her some new important role in the MU. She's Captain Marvel, now she's also the leader of Alpha Flight, now she's also the leader of the Ultimates, now she's also in Guardians of the Galaxy, now she's actually the most popular and well liked hero in the entire MU, etc. But nothing was ever done to make her character interesting. They handed her from one female writer to the next and none of them seemed to treat her as anything than a shitty YA character.



She had a personality when Chris Claremont wrote her. But no-one, including the new writers, actually read comics, so she's left as a blank.


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>Kelly Thompson as the writer

>actually putting west coast avengers as a credit

Oh man, this'll be great

Why don't they just make an executive decision to have something exciting happen to the character? You know, something like pic related.



Well she has hair and breast this time and doesn't look like a gay man so that's… something. I guess.


This is still the best outfit.



Looks like shit anon. Never do anything creative again





You know what they say 3rd 10th 34th 41st 50th time's the charm!

Or if we keep making it, they will have to relent and like it eventually!


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I think it's pretty funny that even Joel Jurion can make Carol Danvers: Dyke-type look more feminine than Marvel can.



Tumblr's obsession with making everything broken and ugly has long since stopped surprising me.



Marvel has an actual issue with how few women heroes they have. Regardless of shitposting on these board about diversity inclusion and shit, you usually want ONE woman and minority you can tack on to big posters and stuff, just because it aesthetically looks nicer than everyone looking exactly the fucking same. Marvel needs just one woman to be a frontline just for the press of it all, but they seriously have no one at all they can use except her. Every popular female is either in the X-men, or is a genderbent version of a more popular hero. Miss Marvel is the only person they have that has any sort of weight behind their character, and the only reason she has any weight at all is because she's just been around that damn long. They can't just create a new character and unashamedly throw her in and pretend she's the equivalent of Wonder Woman, because that's the one thing fan would hate worse, so they have to try and make her popular. But she ISN'T popular, so they reboot her. But part of why she's unpopular is because she gets rebooted so fucking much. She has no consistent character. Each time she gets rebooted, the last person didn't like what they were doing with her, and change her personality and shit around, which Marvel editors are ok with, because she wasn't popular so no one will care.It's a stupid and horrible vicious cycle that basically guarantees the character will remain the equivalent of a brown paper bag when all the other kids have cool name brand lunch boxes with everyone's favorite cartoons.


She's gonna rescue Tony Stark from space in Avengers: Endgame, isn't she?



>has tits on the cover

>no tits on the actual pages

Oh, they're crafty bastards, aren't they?



>Ms. Marvel

>Not a genderbent version of a more popular hero

Marr-Vell has been memoryholed, hasn't he? Bad enough he never existed in the MCU, bad enough DC forced Marvel to kill him off, bad enough he had his name stolen by the drunk, now we're just going to pretend he never lived?



He's going to be a very, very small part of the Brie Larson movie.



They tried the same thing with Squirrel Girl in Japan, if I remember right.

Problem was, the difference between the Girihiru cover and the actual art in the book was so fucking jarring some of them complained about feeling ripped off.



Sounds like their only solution would be to introduce a female superhero OC into the MCU as a side character and hope she takes off in popularity enough to get her own shit.



Sometimes I wish that Gurihiru cover just didn't exist. It shows us a brief, bittersweet glimpse of a universe that is objectively superior to our own.

We could have had an adorable Squirrel Girl who bakes cakes, instead we got a down syndrome FAS baby with a doubly cleft palate and a bone disorder who goes to college with some rainbow coalition, homosexual antifa members and is drawn by someone who is not good at drawing.


Even when Captain Marvel was a guy, did he actually do anything of value besides being super-powerful?



I'm not even kidding when I say they should have just made Miss Muslim the "Miss Marvel" of the MCU. She has a bigger fanbase than Danvers ever had, and despite people bitching about shitskins, Kamala actually has a character. Carol has never been popular EVER, nad they should have taken the2 opportunity to take that person that people actually recognize, and turn them into something marketable.



Dude, he fought Thanos back before it was cool.


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>another all female production

Place your bets people, how many issues will they be able to release before the project gets canned?

Art looks decent, so I'll give it a generous #10.



Marvel has PLENTY of heroines. Ultra girl, Plasmer, Hell's Angel, Dust, Galacta, Satana, Typhoid, Motormouth, Spellbinder, Amethyst, Daughters of The Dragon, Crazy Eight, Strange 2099, Thundra, the Phantom Blonde, Nosferata, they just don't know how to fucking use them.


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Stop trying to make captain marvel happen, she's not going to happen



Tell it to Marvel.


Soo… what was the point of introducing Kamala Khan if Marvel won't actually use her in movies and sheet?



They are planning to. They were originally going to have her movie be a spinoff from the inhumans movie, but that all went to shit because the inhumans are fucking stupid. They won't let their piece of juicy muslim pandering slip through their fingers though, a movie will definitely come even, if not especially, if it doesn't make any money.



Kamala wasn't made to get the character into the movies. They created her in a moronic attempt to get young muslim girls to buy more of their comics. I have to think that Kamala being a fangirl who is constantly talking about how much she loves superheroes was part of that marketing push. They probably thought if they showed a shitskin being a fangirl that it would encourage more shitskins to be fangirls too.

Turns out they miscalculated again, and the only people who really care about Kamala are mostly middle aged, childless hipster white women who don't really care about her God awful comics, but love what she symbolizes. Incidentally, she's written by a middle aged, childless white hipster who converted to Islam and now feels like she has authentic "minority" cred. That's really the best Marvel could do. A shitty musliboo that writers Kamala as her minoritysona.


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I don't know if this is real or not, but it's one of the most entertaining things I read in a while.


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RIP kamala khan



Tits are a social construct you straight, cis male shitlord.


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stop making fun of me.



She needs to adjust her boobs. They're lopsided.



You can at least spank it to her warbird outfit.


Brian Reed's run is pretty good.


>fake fan group

The Carol Corps? I always wondered if they even existed. I heard people talk of them but never saw the Corps myself.


I always wondered what muslims thought of Kamala since they never talk about her. Usually it's teenage girls that talk about Kamala.


Fuck don't remind me.


Did Carol ever get any come-uppance for the shit she pulled in Civil War 2?



Obviously not real, but still better than the original.


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>The classic Fantastic Four villain MAHKIZMO has taken over Manhattan’s Roosevelt Island and turned it into an apocalyptic wasteland! When CAPTAIN MARVEL ends up trapped there and cut off from the rest of world (including any Avengers-shaped reinforcements!), she’ll need to build her own team out of allies, old and new — SPIDER-WOMAN, HAZMAT, ECHO and a man known only as SOM — in order to start a revolution to free the island’s civilian inhabitants. With that kind of backup, Mahkizmo should be toast — but not everything is what it seems on this island

Looks like ripoff


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Jesus Christ, this is a rip off off of…


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Make em bigger



Just needs an actual chin.



Okay some of those are mutants which, remember, are disallowed for cinematic use. Besides which we're talking about major characters right? Ones that have played central roles in the big plots and titles. Danvers does at least have that distinction, having been shoehorned into the lineup of every big event for the last, what, decade?

It's like asking where are all the ever growing list of omega level mutants when some omega level threat crops up. They share a planet, it's not hard to notice an angry god smashing it up. The answer is nobody bought their runs because they're all fanfiction.net tier OC's of whatever artist was willing to pay for a passion project on their knees, and as a result nobody would recognise them and everyone would be angry to see a fucking omega level mutant come out of nowhere in a major title.



Pretty sure only Dust out of those is a mutant.

Ultra Girl was half-Kree, and is only a mutant in the Namor sense.



This is the kind of shit I hate about Marvel's brand of feminism. Captain Marvel can't just be a hero in an interesting adventure full of cool stuff. No. She has to be the badass leader of an all female team of other sassy badasses and all of them are radiating PURE GRRRRL POWER because none of this is about the story as much as it seems to be about the potential headlines of "Look Captain Marvel and her badass team of badass women!"



How is Namor a mutant? I see they kept pushing this for the past couple of years but I thought he was just half-Atlantean?



It's a bit murky, but the theory is that since neither humans nor Atlanteans have tiny wings on their ankles that somehow allow them to fly, that proves he is a mutant.


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>Looks like ripoff

It's so clear the writer just told the artist to copy shit from Mad Max Fury Road. Even Carol's belt/strap thing is taken directly from Furiosa.




Does no one at Marvel know how to spell? I'm not expecting miracles, just not repeating the exact same misspelling of a simple English word on your official design documents.


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What's with the D&D setting?



Shoulda just made a movie that had Visions daughter in it for her.


Holy shit, they actually remembered Avengers Academy characters? Good thing I wasn't a fan of it.


>Okay some of those are mutants which, remember, are disallowed for cinematic use

Disney bought Fox so now they aren't.


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>They probably thought if they showed a shitskin being a fangirl that it would encourage more shitskins to be fangirls too.

They never learn.



She popped up occasionally in Wolverine stories as some kind of spook/operative. That stuff was pretty okay.

>No crossovers.

Never mind.


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>Mahkizmo the Nuclear Man is the strong and chauvinistic ruler and leader of Machus, a future alternate reality Earth circa the year 2200 AD, where men rule society and enslave woman. A world where male dominance and superiority is preached and permeates through society.

More subtle, insightful social commentary from the House of Ideas!



She had 2 decent runs. The first one was done by Chris Claremont where it shows her origins and deals with her personal life conflicting with superhero life. Also, she runs a feminist magazine called Ms. or something.

2nd run is by Brian Reed, haven't got the chance to read it but I hear it deals with her alcoholism, regret and is more of a fleshed out character with flaws and tries to overcome them.


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Brie Larson doesn't smile because wrinkles & crows feet?



Nigga i ain't clinking that shit.



Anyone have the tldr?


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>1st pic

God there is something off about her face.



I think all of her facial features are a fraction of an inch off of where they're supposed to be. Eyes, nose, mouth, they all look slightly out of place.


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tl,dr ~ Brie Larson doesn't smile because wrinkles & crows feet make her look old. Should have got the Apollo from the Battlestar Galactica (2004) remake.



De-aging FX takes its toll; it's not like it's a mustache…




No i meant the video.



Hasn't she heard of wrink cream?



Brie melts under heat…



>Should have got the Apollo from the Battlestar Galactica (2004) remake

Apollo was a man. Surely you mean Starbuck?



Like Katee Sackhoff? Honestly, I think she could do a good Carol Danvers if we're basing it on her pre-Captain Marvel days.



If she channels Bitch Pudding when she gets drunk, I'm in.


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I miss the old Miss Marvel, she wasn't such a bitch in those days.


Where's Kamala?



Only is she does it naked. She's got a nice body, her face is way too butch for my liking.

What they should do is find some good looking porn star and go with that. It's not like Captain Autismo has that big of a range of emotions.


The only memorable thing this cunt did was marrying his own son/rohypnolrapist



Spelling is a social construct, shitlord.

No really, pretty sure at least one higher up person in British education has said exam papers should be passed if the spelling is at least phonetically right.


Holy shit, is the painting in that cap real? It looks like it was intended as a parody, but probably wasn't.


>We could have had a big budget flick about a superpowered female magician in a leotard and fishnets.

Fire up the LHC, I want to switch timelines again.


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What are you talking about, goy? Star Wars and Ghostbusters have never been healtier!



Without Tumblr, the fat feminazis would have simply used a different blogsite.



Yes, but tumblr staff pandered to them as often as possible and allowed them to piggyback on the popularity of porn and comic blogs. If not for that, they might have all been stuck with blogspot or wordpress where they would get almost no exposure and have much less ability to dox people for drawing women too skinny.



Didn't the exact opposite of this happen though save Crapstain Marvel who has yet to live up to her namesake?



The first panel is accurate in that the only one even noticing Ghostbitches is criticizing them. Star Wars TFA made money but it's dubious if Disney has made more than they spent on acquiring it and they're burning up all brand loyalty. Wonder Woman did okay by not actually being that political. She-Ra sucked but Netflix mostly runs on people not caring enough to cancel their subscriptions. Hopefully if Ms. Marvel bombs the artist will learn to draw noses or just stop drawing.


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Damn how old is Brie Lawson, she looks 40 in this picture, and that's with professional makeup and a designer formal gown.


If you mean to discuss the movie, go to:


If you mean to discuss the comic, can someone storytime the current run so far?



Storytime the original series, it's the only one worth reading.

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