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>Brand new WB movie featuring the characters of Bruce Timm's Justice League along with new inclusions

Im cautiously optimistic about it, remembering how Batman vs Harley Quinn turned out and seeing most of the original cast absent in favor for worst Martian and diversity quota #67. Though seeing the Legion of Superheroes get more love is always a plus.


It's gonna be shit and if you think otherwise, you're no better than a battered housewife that just can't fucking learn.



At least is Mr Terrific and not Cyborg

Who is the green lantern girl?



>Diversity quota

I don't see a problem here. They're not exactly replacing iconic established characters with minority characters. Also there's multiple Green Lanterns. Ms Martian isn't that bad either, plus she's an alien, not some earthly minority.



Jessica Cruz



What is Miss Martian's origin in DCAU?



First time we're seeing her.




Fuck yourselves.



She-lantern a cute





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Justice League Vs. Mental Illness

What shit.


>still giving a flying fuck about capeshit



>the main characters will be a latina with anxiety who doesn't really care about heroics at all

How interesting. Did they get the idea from nuLara from Ugh-I-hate-tombs Raider?



>Im cautiously optimistic about it

i'm not. not after Batman and Harley "Fart Joke" Quinn


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Mmmm… Bruce Timm WW



>Green Lantern Jessica Cruz

>not some earthly minority

Am I just ignorant of Green Lantern characters?



Read. He said Miss Martian isn't the earthly minority.



I know, and I realized after posting that I should have quoted this part


>They're not exactly replacing iconic established characters with minority characters

and I knew someone would spot my error of detail and overlook the substance.

My question remains: Is Jessica Cruz not a token minority replacement of established green lanterns?



Jessica Cruz is supposed to be a brand new Green Lantern introduced from the New 52 along with Baz. The older lanterns like Hal Jordan, Kyle Rayner and John Stewart still exist. They just mainly do space stuff now and don't go to earth that often.



They didn't replace the big GLs, they just got pushed to different books.

Hal was given his own Corps essentially, while they gave 2 GLs to Earth so they weren't super powerful like Hal/Kyle/John and could do Earth-based stories.

The alternative would have been to kneecap an existinig GL's powers so they could keep their stories on Earth.



>The Fatal Five

They seem like a "bottom of the barrel' villain team. This means that JLvFF feels more like a regular episode of JL and not a movie. They might as well continue where JL:U left off.



>The Fatal Five

>"bottom of the barrel' villain team

You wash your mouth out. The Fatal Five are PURE CLASS.

The Persuader's axe is so sharp it can cut through GRAVITY, Emerald Empress is wanted for having committed every crime, think about that for a second, EVERY CRIME. Tharok lost half his body right down the middle in a tragic gardening accident and I guess hopped to the hospital, and Validus is a fucking giant shooting lightning out of his exposed brain. And Mano has the cooties touch so powerful he blew up his planet by touching it! These are the OG "adult criminals kicking the Legion around", all ludicrously dangerous while still having that Silver Age touch of the bizarre.


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Can't be worse than Teen Titans vs JLA with Trigon


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Whatever whatever


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>Emerald Empress is wanted for having committed every crime

>think about that for a second

Quality supervillain material, that.



who did she rape? also, who did she statutory rape?


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>tied a dollar bill on a string on the ground and pulled it away when someone tried to pick it up.

>rode a moped into Fort Stewart without wearing long trousers.

>skateboarded at the National Institutes of Health.

>injured a government-owned lamp.

>harm an albino deer intentionally

>harassed Bigfoot.

>said something so annoying to someone that it made them hit her in a national forest.

>when a traffic cop asked her “Do you know why I pulled you over?” she answered “If you don’t know, I’m not going to tell you”.

>married her cousin, or closer.

>married while having a sexually transmitted disease.

>kissed another woman, after growing a mustache.

>is the parent of two or more illegitimate children.

>married again, wore a white wedding dress

>intentionally forgot her wife's birthday

>worked as a computer repair technicians without a private investigator's license.

>worked as a locksmith, auctioneer, florist, interior designer, casket seller, hair-braider, shampooer, teeth whitener, and fortune teller without a license.

>changed a light bulb without a license.

>worked as a cab driver, transported rabid dogs and corpses.

>worked as a fireman, saved a woman wearing a night dress.

>operated an underground coal mine and didn't provide enough toilet paper for her employees.

>played bingo for more than five hours.

>held a salmon under suspicious circumstances.

>lied about her astrological sign.

>wore body armor.

>wore underwear under her kilt.

>owned more than 50 kg of potatoes

>brought undocumented pig semen across state lines to impregnate another pig.

>named her pig Napoleon.

>sold raw milk

>sold "zombie" wine.

>sold her eyeballs.

<sold margarine and called it butter.

>bartered for a baby

>died in Sarpourenx without having bought a burial plot in the cemetery

>reincarnated in China without prior consent.

I know this isn't actually the case, but it would be such a cool concept. A villain traveling the world to commit every crime in every book. Heinous, mundane and hilarious.


Whichever one would tick off the maximum amount of laws, so probably one of her own children.


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this needs to be drawn. all of it.


It’s supergirl supposed to be in the legion in this continuity



Batman's plan is to imprison her in Denmark, hoping to confuse her with the fact that it's not a crime there to escape from prison.



I thought that she might have appeared in one of the tie-in comics set in the DCAU.


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>BURBANK, CA (February 6, 2019) – The fate of the planet rests on the shoulders of a reluctant Green Lantern and an unstable hero from the future in Justice League vs. The Fatal Five, the next entry in the popular series of DC Universe Movies. Produced by Warner Bros. Animation and DC, the feature-length animated film arrives from Warner Bros. Home Entertainment on Digital starting March 30, 2019, and on 4K Ultra HD Combo Pack and Blu-ray Combo Pack on April 16, 2019.

>Justice League vs. The Fatal Five will be available on 4K Ultra HD Combo Pack ($39.99 SRP) and Blu-ray Combo Pack ($24.98 SRP) as well as on Digital ($19.99 HD, $14.99 SD). The 4K Ultra HD Combo Pack features an Ultra HD Blu-ray disc in 4K with HDR and a Blu-ray disc featuring the film; the Blu-ray Combo Pack features the film in hi-definition. The 4K Ultra HD and Blu-ray Combo Pack include a digital version of the film.

>Justice League vs. The Fatal Five finds the Earth’s future hanging in the balance when the Justice League faces a powerful new threat – the Fatal Five. Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman seek answers as the time-traveling trio of Mano, Persuader and Tharok terrorize Metropolis in search of budding Green Lantern, Jessica Cruz – whom they need to free remaining Fatal Five members Emerald Empress and Validus in order to carry out their sinister plan. But the Justice League discover an ally from another time in the peculiar Star Boy – brimming with volatile power, could he be the key to thwarting the Fatal Five? An epic battle against ultimate evil awaits!

>The Justice League vs. The Fatal Five all-star cast is led by Elyes Gabel (Scorpion, Game of Thrones) as Thomas Kallor/Star Boy and Diane Guerrero (Orange is the New Black, Jane the Virgin, DC Universe’s upcoming Doom Patrol) as Jessica Cruz/Green Lantern. Reprising their Justice League/Justice League Unlimited roles as Batman, Wonder Woman and Superman, respectively, are Kevin Conroy (Batman: The Animated Series, Batman: The Killing Joke), Susan Eisenberg (Injustice 2, LEGO DC Super Heroes – Aquaman: Rage of Atlantis) and George Newbern (Superman vs. The Elite, Scandal). Providing the voices of the villainous Fatal Five are Peter Jessop (Mass Effect, Fallout 4, Resident Evil) as Tharok, Matthew Yang King (Batman Ninja, Supah Ninjas) as The Persuader, Sumalee Montano (S.W.A.T., This Is Us) as Emerald Empress, and Philip Anthony Rodriguez (Grimm, The Secret Life of the American Teenager) as Mano. (Note: Validus does not speak)

>Other members of the voice cast include Daniela Bobadilla (Anger Management, The Middle) as Miss Martian, Kevin Michael Richardson (Family Guy, The Simpsons) as Mr. Terrific, Noel Fisher (Shameless, Castle Rock) as Brainiac 5, Tara Strong (Batman: The Killing Joke, Teen Titans, Teen Titans Go!) as Saturn Girl, and Tom Kenny (SpongeBob SquarePants) as Bloodsport.

>Producer Sam Liu (Reign of the Supermen, Gotham by Gaslight) also directs Justice League vs. The Fatal Five from a script by Eric Carrasco (Supergirl, Justice League Action) and Jim Krieg (Batman: Gotham by Gaslight) & Alan Burnett (Suicide Squad: Hell To Pay). The film is based on a story by Carrasco. Burnett and Krieg are also co-producers. Amy McKenna (The Death of Superman) is producer. Co-Executive Producers are Benjamin Melniker and Michael Uslan. Executive Producers are Sam Register and Bruce Timm (Justice League/Justice League Unlimited, Batman: The Animated Series).

>“Justice League vs. The Fatal Five is an important addition to the DC Universe Movies, spotlighting two unlikely young heroes with real-world issues facing off against a daunting quintet of futuristic villains,” said Mary Ellen Thomas, Warner Bros. Home Entertainment Vice President, Family & Animation Marketing. “We’re also are proud to have Kevin Conroy, Susan Eisenberg and George Newbern reprising their seminal roles as DC’s Trinity in the Justice League & Justice League Unlimited animated series, and believe the fans will be equally pleased with their return to these characters.”


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Justice League vs. The Fatal Five Enhanced Content

Ultra HD Blu-ray Combo Pack, Blu-ray Combo Pack and Digital

>Battling the Invisible Menace (Featurette)– This featurette will explore the nuanced hero as many characters must deal with the everyday feelings of anxiety, depression, and other incapacitating emotions that we all must battle and overcome.

>Justice League vs. Fatal Five: Unity of Hero (Featurette) – A look at how the pantheon of DC heroes has never been more diverse and inclusive, as writers and artists break boundaries and smash stereotypes.

>Audio Commentary – Bruce Timm, Sam Liu, Jim Krieg and Eric Carrasco share their thoughts and insights on Justice League vs. The Fatal Five.

>A Sneak Peek at the next DC Universe Movie, Batman: Hush – An advance look at the next animated film in the popular DC Universe Movies collection.

>Sneak Peek Revisited: A Preview of Justice League Dark – John Constantine leads a group of misfit characters that use magic to vanquish their opponents. This is the dark version of The Justice League taking on the malevolent forces that go beyond our plane of existence.

>Sneak Peek Revisited: A Preview of Justice League vs. Teen Titans – A glimpse into the characters known as the Teen Titans.

>From the DC Vault: Justice League Unlimited, “Far From Home”

>From the DC Vault: Legion of Superheroes, “Man of Tomorrow”

The 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray disc of Justice League vs. The Fatal Five will feature Dolby VisionTM HDR that dramatically expands the color palette and contrast range and uses dynamic metadata to automatically optimize the picture for every screen, frame by frame. The 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray disc of Justice League vs. The Fatal Five will also feature a Dolby Atmos® soundtrack remixed specifically for the home theater environment to place and move audio anywhere in the room, including overhead. To experience Dolby Atmos at home, a Dolby Atmos enabled AV receiver and additional speakers are required, or a Dolby Atmos enabled sound bar. Dolby Atmos soundtracks are also fully backward compatible with traditional audio configurations and legacy home entertainment equipment.

Justice League vs. The Fatal Five will also be available on Movies Anywhere. Using the free Movies Anywhere app and website, consumers can access all their eligible movies by connecting their Movies Anywhere account with their participating digital retailer accounts.

>Fans can also own Justice League vs. The Fatal Five via purchase from digital retailers beginning March 30, 2019.


>On March 30,Justice League vs. The Fatal Five will be available to own in high definition and standard definition from select digital retailers including Amazon, FandangoNow, iTunes, PlayStation, Vudu, Xbox and others. On April 16, Justice League vs. The Fatal Five will be made available digitally on Video On Demand services from cable and satellite providers, and on select gaming consoles.



4K UHD Combo Pack $39.99

Blu-ray Combo Pack $24.98

Blu-ray Languages: English, French

Blu-ray Subtitles: English, French

Running Time: 87 minutes

Rating: PG-13 for sequences of sci-fi violence, some bloody images, language and partial nudity.


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Then the target audience.


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>every crime

Including hand holding?



>Jessica Cruz

>Her first full appearance takes place in Justice League #31 (August 2014)

>She currently resides in Portland, Oregon

it's shit


Just watched it. I don't know what I was expecting. Replace John Stewart, who was already an affirmative action replacement for Kyle Rayner, with Jessica Cruz. Replace Martian Manhunter with Miss Martian. Jessica Cruz spends the whole time whining about "muh ptsd" while associating with people who have literally been to Hell and seen tons of people die, facing death dozens of times. But she's the bravest and best Green Lantern ever.

It's not like I haven't seen worse DC movies, but it's irrelevant, because this isn't DCAU at all. They have a few of the voice actors and they play a couple musical cues from the DCAU, but all the characters who weren't main characters in previous series all have completely different designs than previous series. But fine, it's not like that hasn't happened before in the DCAU, but there are a bunch of plot elements that makes it really stick out as not actually being DCAU.

No reference is made to anyone in the Justice League having any knowledge of the Legion of Superheroes, the Fatal Five, or the 30th/31st century in general, despite the fact that Superman has met them a ton of times, and Green Arrow and John Stewart actually teamed up with the Legion and fought the Fatal Five before. Of course Green Arrow isn't mentioned except for a cameo as a statue, and John Stewart is written out and doesn't appear so that Cruz can seem cool.

Don't you think Superman might be wondering about how Supergirl is doing in the 31st century? Nope. She's never referenced. We see Brainiac 5 doing stuff, but Supergirl is never even referenced.

Miss Martian has no origin, Martian Manhunter isn't referenced. Okay, technically doesn't make it not fit in the DCAU, but you'd think since it was a big point that J'onn was the last martian, they'd at least explain why a new one is around now. Presumably he's still off being a chinese man, but this still feels like bullshit.

Superman flies through space, even though it was firmly established that DCAU Superman can't do that, and he always wears a spacesuit whenever we see him in space in any other episode.

Harley Quinn is in Arkham as a patient even though in the very last movie we see her to be considered reformed. Again, sure you can come up with headcanon that says she relapsed, but it's horseshit that they would expect us to do that instead of just not blatantly contradicting the end of the previous movie. Also, as bad as that movie was, at least that fit with the end of Return of the Joker where she was shown to be reformed.

Hal Jordan and Guy Gardner are shown to be 21st century Green Lanterns. In fact, the statues of them get better closeups than Kyle and John. Especially Kyle. Again, you can act like Guy became one off screen, but that's not fulfilling at all, it obviously feels like a contradiction. Hal replaced John in a fucking alternate timeline. Again, I don't want to hear bullshit headcanons about how it could be justified. Anything can be justified in a universe like this, but it's bullshit that isn't explained and doesn't match with what was shown previously.

Crisis on Two Earths was more DCAU than this. Hell, Justice League Doom felt more like the DCAU than this.


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>Jessica Cruz spends the whole time whining about "muh ptsd" while associating with people who have literally been to Hell and seen tons of people die, facing death dozens of times.

At least that's kinda funny.

>Again, I don't want to hear bullshit headcanons about how it could be justified. Anything can be justified in a universe like this, but it's bullshit that isn't explained and doesn't match with what was shown previously.

Or, as a certain e-celeb might say, the viewer would be writing the story for the movie.

But thanks for the summary, anon, I don't think I'm gonna bother looking for a rip myself.



So it's basically nostalgia bait for people who still can't let go of the DCAU, except it can't even do that right. Good thing I never gave a shit about the Timmverse or whatever it's called, otherwise I'd be super-pissed.



>Crisis on Two Earths was more DCAU than this.

Twas supposed to be. As a backstory for Unlimited (New watchtower being built, establishment of teleportation tech and new invisible boat mobile, and why they recruited more people).

Just was made standalone last minute.



>despite the fact that Superman has met them a ton of times

Pretty sure that the one time he met them in DCAU continuity was as a teenager and they wiped his memory



>at least that fit with the end of Return of the Joker where she was shown to be reformed

But it didn't. In Return of the Joker everyone thought Harley died in their final confrontation with the Joker and they had no idea she was the Dee Dee Twins' grandmother.



>Just was made standalone last minute.

It wasn't last minute. Basically they were going to make Crisis on Two Earths as Worlds Collide and put that out as a DTV between the time that Justice League finished and JLU was about to start. But I think they were too busy to work on it or Warners weren't keen on it, so it got shelved.

Then when they started doing the Warner Premiere films Bruce Timm decided that he wanted Worlds Collide to be one of the films. Warners condition for allowing it to be made was that it became a more generic Justice League movie and that they would get muh celebrities to do the voicing. Timm decided he'd rather acquiesce and have it get made than not acquiesce and not be able to do the film at all.

Personally I enjoyed it about a tenth as much as I would have if it had been DCAU.


>Crisis on Two Earths was more DCAU than this. Hell, Justice League Doom felt more like the DCAU than this.

Do you know what the common thread between them was? Dwayne McDuffie



>Dwayne McDuffie

Did good comics die with him?



Good comics died before him because even when he was alive they wouldn't let him write the Justice League he wanted to write because of constant inter-company crossovers and general bullshit.


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Well, that was one of the worst.



>Pretty sure that the one time he met them in DCAU continuity was as a teenager and they wiped his memory

Was that the only time? Well he still knows Supergirl lives in the 31st century now. You'd think when he meets a superhero from there, he'd be asking about her. Also, you'd think he'd be concerned upon seeing Brainiac 5, especially since he looks even more like Brainiac 1.0 in this movie. I know Superman is nice and all, but last we heard of Brainiac 5 was a joke about how Superman wouldn't like hearing that Supergirl was banging him.


Yeah you're right I fucked up. Actually that was one of the worst parts about Batman & Harley Quinn, trying to make her seem like a good guy even though we know that the next thing she does, as far as continuity when the movie was released goes, is kidnapping Robin and torturing him for weeks.

>Do you know what the common thread between them was? Dwayne McDuffie

Yes, I listed Doom on purpose, despite being related to the DCAU in only the most tangential way. Timm isn't a writer, but his writing influence shines through on things, and when it does it's weird. (See: Batgirl raping Batman in The Killing Joke.) The actual DCAU writers are what mattered. They get no credit except Dini.



Apparently, Timm said it was a DCAU film at WonderCon, but I can't find any footage of that, just people saying that he said it.


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Animation in this thing is downright trash-tier, and I'm only 25 minutes in.



See, why does it do that? Shit was very clearly timestamped and ordered, instead we get this out of sequence shit.



>Good thing I never gave a shit about the Timmverse

That's not a good thing


Crisis on Two Earths was so obviously written for the DCAU characters even if you ignore the continuity. Like that "Hal Jordan" is clearly DCAU John Stewart even though he only has like two lines. It's the opposite with Doom: they're obviously different versions of the characters, from the way they're written, even though they have DCAU voice actors. RIP Dwayne McDuffie, you could actually write. Now look what we got.

So, Joker's dead, Batman's banging Batgirl, and Superman's been dating Lois for like 30 years? Dead is better…



>Joker's dead, Batman's banging Batgirl

Well that's in line with the timeline considering Batman Beyond reveals both those things happened.


As far as i readed, Jessica Cruz isn't a Green Lantern but a Power Ring



We see Nightwing in Bludhaven so Batman should have been fucking Batgirl by the end of JLU. They really thought they were about done when they made Return of the Joker, JLU doesn't line up with it all that well.



But Dick left before he started fucking Batgirl. Return of the Joker's flashback probably takes place after JLU. I don't see the issue.



>Animation in this thing is downright trash-tier

Where you been? The animation for all these DTVs is dogshit. If anything the Timm stuff is slightly better because, unlike the Young Justice guy, Bruce Timm actually knows how to design for animation



When they were still making DCAU shows, Bruce Timm called Batman Beyond a 'possible future' of the DCAU. When they stopped is when Bruce Timm said it was the future of the DCAU


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>But Dick left before he started fucking Batgirl.

According to future Babs, Dick offered to take her to Bludhaven, but she stayed with Bruce as his gf. The implication is that it all happened at about the same time.

Also Tim Drake would be like 25 in the RotJ flashback without some fudging of the timeline


He said it was a possible future to avoid possible negative fan reaction, the time travel pretty well settled it though


>The animation for all these DTVs is dogshit.

Also, every other aspect of them


I guess we can safely say Bruce Timm doesn't have his magic touch if his posse isn't around. It doesn't have Paul Dini's heart nor Stan Berkowitz's intelligence in the script. Dan Riba and Joaquim dos Santos is not around to direct the action and James Tucker and Glen Murakami are not around to storyboard. The only one around is Alan Burnett to be his Yes-Man and a bunch of no-names running on autopilot.

I also find very convenient that Bruce's return to Warner animation coincides with Harley Quinn showing up on stories that have nothing to do with her. I mean, he did co-create her so it wouldn't surprise me if he knew of some legal shenanigans that allowed him to get extra cash over the usage of the character.



Or it could just be that it happened at some point but not as soon as Dick decided to leave. Could've asked her at some point after the animated series and she declined.

What timeline? There's no clear set of events in order for these series' as a whole. Plus the characters don't age in real time either so that's not an excuse. Superman and Batman's animated shows happen, then JL, then JLU, then that all culminates into Batman Beyond. That's the safest way to look at it. So anything could be placed between the end of JLU to Batman Beyond's time.



Depends is supergirl shown anywhere?



In Batman Beyond? No.

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