No.545175
Storytime of
Spider-Woman #5
All-New All-Different Marvel has taken some pretty drastic changes with the beloved characters of Marvel comics. One of the more notable differences is that of Jessica Drew.
Spider-Woman no longer dresses up in a skintight bodysuit, but rather in a less fun more practical vest and yoga pants. Characters are getting more easily adaptable to movies and tv for casual nobodies realistic for our new modern age and are starting to deal with more realistic situations, like hanging out with friends and parenting! That's right, the formerly-pregnant Spider-Woman has now spawned a child, but she will learn that raising a baby isn't as easy as punching bad guys! Can a story about momhood be entertaining or will this entire goddamned issue be about the goddamned baby? You better pay 3.99 to find out? Wait, where are you goi
No.545178
Raising a baby is difficult and hectic.
Did you guys know this.
Not a lot of media about raising a baby depict this.
No.545183
>>545178
>words words words words words
This is one of the first things you learn to avoid when doing comics. It comes across as tedious to a comic reader and has them questioning why they aren't reading a book. You are supposed to speak with pictures, not write a book.
No.545197
>>545178
Jessica is finding out that she's changing a lot now that she has a child. Now she's overprotective and scared for the child's warfare a lot more than she thought she would be. Is Jessica changing for the better or worse?
(don't think about the part where she scolds clint for not bringing explosives with her baby around plz)
No.545198
>>545178
So how many more issues before she snaps and drowns her baby in the bathtub?
No.545199
>>545197
wait, is she gay now?
No.545202
>>545178
It probably would be easier if she had a husband.
No.545204
>>545197
Jessica is a little conflicted deciding between a life of loving motherhood and a life of risking your life and child's life on a daily basis. You know what girl stress means, girl readers! Let's have a girl's night out! Complete with emoticons! Yay girls! You say lazy, I say you're a dirty misogynist
No.545207
>>545204
Haha, there wasn't any danger afterall! Just those womanly mother hormones doing female parent things!
No.545209
Fucking hell, they didn't even finish the color in some places.
No.545210
>>545204
HOW CAN SHE GO OUT? THAT BABY'S STILL BREAST FEEDING! THAT MEANS NO LIQUOR, YOU DUMB BITCH!
No.545212
can you imagine actually spending money on this issue? Can you imagine how ripped off you would feel? Like, imagine this coming out in the 90's or 80's and somebody buying it thinking they'd be in for super hero fun.
No.545213
>>545207
Looks like Jessica's not ready to give up working cases just yet! Wow, that's a lot of interesting text! Luckily it doesn't get too hard to read because Marvel decided to repeat panels so your eye doesn't have to work too much. Marvel thinks ahead!
No.545215
>>545213
I can't… all the basic mistakes they are making in this single issue. I mean, you can tell from the thumbnails that the words take up most of the panels. This is just awful.
No.545216
>>545213
Clearly the writer of Spider-Woman wants to show off his writing chops to Marvel TV. With all of those WORDS, he'll be writing TV dramas in no time.
No.545218
>>545213
That's right, readers! Jessica is back in action! Fuck you, welfare of the child, Jess has bloodlust! And that's the end of the issue! Aren't comic book pages 23 issues? This one was only 20…Ah, well, it's good to condense stories like that. Life happens so fast, you know? Tune in next month when the baby has a cough and Jessica worryingly checks WedMD for nine hours straight!
No.545220
>>545218
so this is what it's like being triggered huh?
No.545224
>>545213
>repeat panels
I have a degree in fine arts.
I have wasted the time and money to study art. At this point, I'm able to tell the difference between artists on line quality alone. One of the deepest joys I get from comics is appreciating the line-work of the artists involved. Each stroke of a pencil or scratching of ink is distinct, unique, and beautiful. Even the small mistakes, like a panel boarder drawn just a little too long or the clear differences between panels, emanates a deep humanity that we can appreciate.
Then there's this shit. Fucking two pages of repeat panels. I find one repeat panel mildly disgusting, but a page of them is revolting. It's laziness that serves no-one, not even a punch-line. It brings no fucking enjoyment to my eyes to see the same art over and over again with no variation. It's a wretchedness that cuts into my very soul.
I have a degree in fine arts.
No.545225
>>545218
Admittedly I haven't read much Spiderwoman (the character never interested me) but does she somehow get paid through being Spiderwoman or something?
Because in some scenes it seems like they're trying to play it off like that's the case as though she doesn't have any other viable career options, but then she says shit like "I need to be able to be myself!" like she knows she doesn't need to do be a superhero, knows it's selfish to be needlessly endangering herself because it makes her feel better, but is doing it anyways.
No.545227
That's it? That's it!?
$3.99 for that!?
$3.99 for pointless soap opera shit?
This is supposed to be about super heroes! Doing super hero things! Not walls of text about raising a newborn baby!
Marvel is supposed to mean Marvelous!
Jesus fucking Christ Marvel, how low you've fallen.
No.545229
>>545218
You guys might not like comic books being sold to people of a different demographic, you hateful nerds, but let's see what Nick Lowe, senior editor, has to say!
>I hope this issue wrecked you like it wrecked me.
>I hope the honesty, truth, and love poured into this one convinced any skeptics.
>Team Spider-Woman would like to talk to any expecting or new parents who might be reading this….
And then Nick Lowe talks about parenting tips and suggestions on what to do! If you're soon to be bringing a human being into this world, luckily there's help in the back pages of the comic book!
>Lastly, one thing I'd like to make clear, having a child is amazing and can be so fulfilling (it has been for me), but it isn't something to rush into. And single parent-hood isn't something that we're endorsing or suggesting here. Jessica has mad a specific decision for herself, knowing that she has a particularly strong network of support. It's tremendously hard to raise a child with two people and a support network, and it's even harder to do it alone. If you're considering making this decision, think about it long and hard.
No.545234
>>545224
>I find one repeat panel mildly disgusting
When it's used sparingly and with purpose it can be effective, but most people only do it because they're lazy. Plus, people rarely ever draw the repeat panels individually over copy-pasting, which is even more egregious since people can usually tell the difference.
No.545235
>>545218
This Steve guy is gay, isn't he?
>>545229
So in one sentence, he acknowledges how fucking stupid Jessica is for having a child and still being "STRONKWOMANDONTNEEDNOMAN".
No.545238
>>545229
Does this thing even sell? When someone buys a super hero comic, the last thing I imagined they want to hear about is parenting.
No.545256
>>545238
>>545227
>November 2015 - Spider-Woman #1 - 53,885
>December 2015 - Spider-Woman #2 - 27,801
>January 2016 - Spider-Woman #3 - 24,054
>February 2016 - Spider-Woman #4 - 20,747
No.545277
>>545256
Marvel is so fucking lucky they have Star Wars to prop them up.
No.545281
>>545277
There's also the movies, but I think the rush of them are starting to die down since Avengers 2 wasn't as good and'll probably be played out like what happened after the last batch of superhero movies soon enough. So in about…5 years, Marvel will have to write again.
No.545284
>>545281
> So in about…5 years, Marvel will have to write again.
Well, they're fucked then. With they way they're writing they clearly don't have the foresight to realize they don't have anything going for them outside of the movies.
They can't even fall back on the cartoons at this point with the shit Man of Action's been churning out.
No.545289
>>545256
isnt that still decent
No.545307
>>545289
I'm pretty sure 20,000 is the fledging numbers and when Marvel thinks about cancelling a series. Not saying they will, but that's what I've heard.
No.545317
>>545284
Writing won't even save them. Comics are entering an economic slow down. Convergence and Secret Wars fucked the market raw and the Big Two lost a big chunk of their regular readership with it.
Marvel might not be hurting as bad as DC is right now, but they'll feel it down the line.
>>545289
Hitting $20,000 in sales is entering cancellation territory for Big Two books.
No.545326
>>545317
>Comics are entering an economic slow down. Convergence and Secret Wars fucked the market raw and the Big Two lost a big chunk of their regular readership with it.
That's true. It doesn't help that comic shop owners seem to finally be wising up to the fact that they're getting fleeced by Diamond's shitty business model either.
Though I do wonder if the Big Two would've been able to stall the decline if they hadn't huffed a fuckton of glue to think Secret Wars or Convergence were good ideas. If Marvel and DC were run by smarter people, they'd probably buckle down and start working on a new business model. But seems like both companies are in willful denial about the state of the industry.
No.545333
>>545326
As complex as those crossovers were, I think they would've worked out with a different strategy. Instead of having 20 Secret Wars miniseries and 20 different Convergence fights along with the main series going on at once, would it have been less cluttered to hoard like 5 of them in big books? Like, instead of 10 individual fights in separate books, they could have two very big books of five each, having it separated in a way where not everyone's just buying the popular characters' books and ignoring the lesser known ones, so shelves aren't as cluttered? I know next to nothing about comic distribution, so would this idea even work?
No.545337
>>545326
>But seems like both companies are in willful denial about the state of the industry.
That's an understatement. King Dildo at DC is having a massive erection about the upcoming Scooby-Doo comic and the revival of the Super-Sons, a comic series that ended 30 years ago. He is off his rocker if he thinks either of them are going to be major successes.
>>545333
No, because the major publishers are greedy. Why would they have a contained event when they can spread it out to make more money?
No.545338
>>545232
Comics need to die
No.545343
Was scooby doo that popular?
I fucking hated it, but it keeps coming back.
No.545345
>all these WORDS WORDS WORDS
fuck this is terrible
No.545348
>>545343
I don't know if there's any Scooby comics, but Scooby Doo's huge, overall. Every year or so there's another animated movie keeping it afloat, plus an animated series every so often. I think that the comic's gonna flop honestly. The same audience keeping Scooby around aren't the same people who buy comics a lot.
No.545359
>>545343
>Was scooby doo that popular?
Yes, though I think mostly because it's been around for so long that it's seeped into the public consciousness by this point. It's probably helps that Scooby Doo is one of those shows where it's really easy to tweak for new generations.
Though that being said I'll be very surprised if this comic does even remotely well. Even if there were enough people fanatical about Scooby Doo to go buy a comic about it, it looks like this is going to deviate from the mystery solving angle so much that it will probably alienate them. And regular comic-readers likely aren't going to be interested since it looks like a generic science fiction setting with Hanna Barbera characters awkwardly painted over it (with an extra helping of hipster given that Shaggy design).
It looks like a comic designed to appeal to no one, is what I'm saying.
No.545406
>>545338
they died during the 90s. 2000's was the dark and morbid funeral.
We're here at it's unholy Frankenstein (notice the stein there?) resurrection.
No.545413
wait does this baby not have a name?
Either I am completely retarded or not once in that entire issue did they refer to that baby by his name.
Did she just leave the hospital without putting a first name on any of that paperwork?
No.545414
>>545413
Dunno how it is in America but in the UK you've got six weeks from birth to give your baby a name.
No.545420
>>545413
I don't know what the time limit to putting a name on a birth certificate is, so as long as she filled everything else out she could hold off on putting down a first name until the kid needed to get official identification or enrolled in school. Spiderwoman could be one of those retards who wants to let her kid pick his own name like Peekaboo Street.
More likely explanation is that the writer either hasn't figured what the name is or doesn't actually care about the baby as anything more than a prop.
No.545439
>>545197
> I've seen the death of numerous close friends and colleagues, and endless world disasters resulting in the death of millions, but wow being a mommy is so much scarier
Someone please kill me.
>>545406
early 2000's weren't that bad in my opinion. they toned down on the gimmicks, but without going the full retard level non-superhero stuff that's become increasingly popular since Nu52 era.
Basically they were at least superhero comics that accepted they were superhero comics, and didn't always try to put some "spin" on it.
No.545446
>>545439
They made some great comics from about the early 2000s until about the mid 2000s. Whenever Civil War started is when it went to shit.
No.545451
>Rogers DnD, the epitome of comics, was released in 2010
>Faggots saying there are no good comics
wew
No.545454
>>545413
I just noticed this too. The baby not having a name yet probably means that nobody cares, the name will be held off until a dramatic moment, the baby dies, or the baby never existed in the first place. I'm going with baby death via tiny baby sentinel.
No.545455
So clearly the baby is getting in the way of story telling, will he be killed off or sent to a dimensional portal?
I bet he isnt named because the enlightened mother is waiting for the child to decide on their gender
No.545456
>>545454
>>545455
He was made from donor sperm. I'll bet the baby daddy's a Skrull or something and, at the age of two, Daddy Skrull will show up to take baby back to the home planet, where he'll never be seen again.
No.545465
>>545456
no can't have a male winning, it will have to be a female skrull who donated female sperm through plot
No.545551
>>545456
…Oh my god, you're probably right. Either the dad is a Skrull or from the future or something and has to take the baby away. During this time Jessica has done something stupid due to the decision of continuing to be a superhero with a baby and it's put the baby's life at risk. There's a bit of a emotional 'Am I too dangerous to keep this baby' thing and Jessica will decide to let the baby go with it's future Skrull father for it's own safety. Jessica will be sad for 3 panels and then everything will be completely the same again at the House of Ideas. Someone cap this post, I will bet money this is it.
No.545571
>>545551
thought you were talking about the other Jessica with a kid for a minute. y'know, the one that didn't have a terrible comic series just moaning about parenting for pages on end?
No.545617
>>545212
Back in the 90s, they were pumping out comics with what was their idea of fun and action. It was mindless and dumb, sure but at least they were having fun. Today's comics are pumped out for the sake of fulfilling progressive agenda. I mean, shit like this isn't even intellectually challenging or remotely exciting its just trite made to appeal to girl readers.
Sad thing is that as it dips into cancellation numbers, they refuse to fucking pull these things out of their misery. One could say because agenda pushing is more important than making money, but another explanation is that they just don't know what else to make and exhausted all possible plots they could have. They are scrambling to find anything popular to stay relevant.
No.545620
Has anything made it big by pandering to the SJW?
I know that diet supplement company in the UK like tripled their profit after SJWs went after them for using an attractive woman in their advertisements.
Can't name any product/company that made it big by appealing to SJW.
No.545628
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>>545617
>Today's comics are pumped out for the sake of fulfilling progressive agenda.
That is the stupidest /pol/lock statement I've read on this board to date.
Today's comics are not "pumped out for the sake of fulfilling a progressive agenda". Today's comics are pumped out to make money based on gimmicks. Right now, the gimmick is "pandering to sjw types" as they desperately try to find a new money source. Spider-Woman getting a baby, Whor, Squirrel Girl on-going, "practical costumes", Kate Leth on everything, these are all schemes to liberate hipster sjw money out of their wallets with shit they think is important. It's a completely hallow enterprise that's coldly calculated. Of course, it's not doing well because sjws don't actually buy anything, but considering how hard DC and Marvel fucked the shops with their last big events, they really have no choice but to double down.
It's the gimmicks that are the real problem. Whether comics are sjw or redpill is irrelevant. It's still going to be full of shallow pandering cooked-up in corporate board rooms with no real creativity involved. That's why I don't want to save comics, I want to burn them.
No.545630
>>545620
>Has anything made it big by pandering to the SJW?
Anita Sarkeesian and thats pretty much it.Define "big", SJW webcomic artists get their living out of Tumblrettes and Patreon but theyre not exactly "big".
No.545631
>>545197
>Now she's overprotective and scared for the child's warfare
That typo is a glorious thing to behold.
No.545633
>>545197
Wait, when did Spider-Woman get electricity powers? Man, Electro is gonna throw a shit fit over this you just know it.
No.545636
>>545204
>Complete with emoticons!
Eh, those are not emoticons, they're rebus symbols. I'd give it a pa-
>;-)
I'm disappointed that the Cuba Missile Crisis never escalated to Mutually Assured Destruction.
No.545642
>>545337
Jesus fuck, WHAT DID THEY DO TO SHAGGY?
No.545645
>>545413
well, he wasnt baptized yet so he doesnt really have any
No.545646
>>545337
>>545642
HE WAS STRUCK BY THE HIDEOUS HIPSTER!
No.545649
>>545645
at least he wasn't circumcised
No.545650
I feel sorry for people who read cape comics for cape adventures, because this shit is 80% sitcom bullshit with a single adult woman dealing with mundane shit, except all the supporting cast are heroes, and 20% actual crime fighting and hero shit.
This is insultingly bad. This is not what anyone who still buys comics could want out of Spider-Woman.
No.545671
>>545183
In this case it seemed to make sense though because it's supposed to show her as a rambling mess.
No.545684
>>545630
Anita pandered to SJWs for a long time without making it big. What made her big eventually were the gamergoys.
No.545685
>>545684
That's funny and all, but it was literally journos deciding that it was time to really push their progressive agenda and turning Anita into a martyr by treating her like a literal Goddess of Gaming who would save the industry from its shitlord ways.
No.545687
>>545685
It's really creepy how much of a cult they all became, not to mention how fast they became a cult.
No.545691
>>545684
>What made her big eventually were the gamergoys.
She's the one who kicked the hornet's nest by spamming threads on half /v/. If there had been no harassment she would have made some up, as she always does whenever she needs some attention.
No.545692
>>545687
That was one of the interesting revelations about the whole clusterfuck: They were a cult long before GG happened. They had their little GameJournoPros group and everyone knew everyone.
The thing that no one paid attention to was the way that these sites had been getting slowly worse one employee at a time. Each new pretentious hipster they added on or weaseled into these big sites, the easier it became to add another, and another, and another.
None of them were hired for their writing talent or passion for games, clearly. They were all ideological hires, and evidence seems to show that this style of infiltrating and amassing power through groupthink is nothing new.
>>545691
Old videos predating her kickstarter show he insisting that the evil hacker 4chan was always out to get her and that she was always heavily moderating her comments on all of her videos. This was when she was a nobody with barely 10k subscribers who spent a lot of time e-begging. She made one video on Bayonetta that was so fucking stupid that she deleted it, but even then, she was still a non-entity on /v/ or any other part of 4chan… and then when the kickstarter happened she closed all the comments on every video except the KS video and cried harassment.
No.545721
A few questions;
Who the fuck is the father?
What the fuck is that baby's name?
Did they really have to go with single mother bullshit?
Most importantly, when does the baby start climbing on the walls and shooting tiny lightning bolts?
I swear if that last one doesn't happen then nothing remotely good has come from this.
No.545744
>>545721
The father is unknown at the moment, but will most likely come up at the end of this run or when Marvel needs to drum up something exciting a few years down the line.
The name of the baby is currently undecided or at least undisclosed to the audience. I doubt this is anything significant and it's probably going to be saved as the closing point of a dramatic moment.
I don't know if the baby having powers has been discussed, but it hasn't been mentioned in this comic and not shown so at this point I can only assume it's just an average, nameless, baby.
No.545808
>>545630
big as in, idk, AT or above I guess. Household name. Triple their profit. Make it worthwhile alienating part of their audience.
No.545820
>>545451
>Rogers DnD
>the epitome of comics
/co/ really needs to get some standards.
No.545835
>>545628
It's cute how you're still convinced that all this progressive pandering is all some elaborate marketing gimmick and not what everyone at Marvel actually believes in.
No.545841
>>545820
try naming a better comic
Oh wait, you can't
No.545843
>>545835
clearly it's the jews in control of media trying to brainwash the white race
First fluoride and now this, damn you elders of the zionist council!
No.545847
>>545841
Better comic: anything that isn't unfunny Whedon wannabe dogshit.
No.545848
>>545843
This coming from the one who thinks that Marvel is conspiring to push agendas for the sake of sales instead of just writing about their own beliefs.
You're the only one pushing a conspiracy theory here.
No.545852
>>545848
So in the 1990s marvel believed in anarchy, and punisher style vigilante killing as well as wearing pouches on every piece of clothing worn?
And in the 60s they believed in Rollerdisco.
Sure man. Sure.
No.545854
>>545847
So nothing again, thought so.
No.545855
>>545852
leave the child alone, he's confused enough hating jews while supporting trump as it is.
No.545856
>>545852
You're right, Marvel's left wing political views are something that just popped up in the 2010s.
Have you ever looked at any Marvel writer's Twitter feed? Is all their ideological grandstanding on there a big front too?
>>545855
No one's brought up /pol/ or Jews except you.
No.545857
>>545854
Because almost anything is better.
I don't know why /co/ loves to fellate Fell's Five while shitting on Rat Queens when the humor is about on the same level.
No.545858
>>545856
because you're anything other than a poltard
No.545859
>>545858
>pointing out a bullshit conspiracy theory is /pol/
wew
No.545860
>>545859
Gonna have to try harder kid
No.545862
>>545856
>Have you ever looked at any Marvel writer's Twitter feed? Is all their ideological grandstanding on there a big front too?
The money they bring in from writing their shit has, on at least one occasion, gone towards funding Trump.
The writers might genuinely believe that shit but management is definitely playing these people.
No.545863
>>545862
How much does upper management honestly have to do with the creative process of these books?
The heads of every major Hollywood studio are probably friends with Trump as well. Is the fact that film and TV is left-wing and has been for decades suddenly untrue?
No.545864
>>545863
>The heads of every major Hollywood studio are probably friends with Trump as well.
No shit, Hollywood is run by Jews, Trump's owners.
No.545867
>>545863
>How much does upper management honestly have to do with the creative process of these books?
A fair amount. Upper management decide what Marvel does and doesn't publish. For instance, upper management have effectively killed publication of any Fantastic Four books because Fox own the movie rights and upper management want those rights back.
Perlmutter's friendship with Trump is probably the primary reason why they're using Loki as his stand-in in the comics, rather than outright using Trump.
>The heads of every major Hollywood studio are probably friends with Trump as well.
Given the way they carry on about Trump I sincerely doubt that. Or else they're fair weather friends like Mitt Romney.
>Is the fact that film and TV is left-wing and has been for decades suddenly untrue?
Hollywood's left wing politics have always been disingenuous. As far as studios are concerned, they've always been fiscally and economically conservative. I wouldn't doubt that, behind closed doors, many studio heads are fairly socially conservative as well.
It's the people on the lower rungs that tend to be more liberal.
No.545871
>>545835
It's cute how you go to other boards and start telling them how their fucking hobby works.
The fact you're treating this seriously means you've already taken their bait. Marvel isn't fucking Anarchy Comics. They're a fucking cape publisher who wants you to get pissed so you give their shit product more attention.
You off-board trigger-niggers better get that through your skulls before you give life to some shit book about single motherhood.
No.545876
Venom Blasts: Her body possesses an inordinate amount of bio-electricity that she has learned to channel and discharge through her hands, in controlled bursts of what she calls "Venom Blasts". These energy projections vary in power; they mostly affect the nervous system in humans. Spider-Woman can regulate them from simply a stun to potent enough to kill an average-sized man in the same way that a lightning bolt could kill him.
/co/ confirmed that they dont read comic books at all
No.545877
>>545876
what the fuck spider does that
No.545878
>>545867
>Perlmutter's friendship with Trump is probably the primary reason why they're using Loki as his stand-in in the comics, rather than outright using Trump.
But he still allows Trump jokes and anti-Trump messages in his books.
If politics weren't so important and the only thing that mattered was the bottom line, why is there no attempt to try to appeal to Trump supporters? I mean, there's clearly a sizable market. If the goal is "piss people off, make money" a pro-Trump comic from the point of view of the Sons of the Serpent would probably do that.
>Hollywood's left wing politics have always been disingenuous
You mean Hollywood making movies about how evil capitalism is is disingenuous?!
Regardless of how hypocritical it may be, the point still stands that all mainstream media has a definite left slant.
>>545871
>other boards
>implying /co/ isn't my most frequented board
this nigger
>They're a fucking cape publisher who wants you to get pissed so you give their shit product more attention
If attention is their goal then why did they bother censoring Madelyne's underboob in Secret Wars? It was a change that almost nobody noticed, and it didn't get them any publicity. It was just a way to make the book more "pc." That was the first one that came to mind, but there are many examples of small things like that that clearly are just the ideological views of the creators shining through, not some complex conspiracy to gain notoriety.
No.545879
>>545878
I'm not really trying to argue with you here, but couldn't the fact that younger people tend to be liberal faggots and conservative people tend to be older have something to do with the suits in charge trying to appeal to homos that don't read comics?
I mean, if I was a stupid executive I would try and capture the young demographic with no taste and disposable income.
No.545883
>>545879
There's a surprisingly large number of younger people who support Trump. I don't know how they fair against others their age, but they are out there.
No.545887
>>545878
>why is there no attempt to try to appeal to Trump supporters?
Social Justice Warriors have a lot of money. Tumblr has the wealthiest userbase of any social network, with an average income of $80,000 per annum. Most Social Justice Warriors are young, teens to early 20s. Most of them are therefore more likely to spend their money on frivolous shit. Many of them have little knowledge in the ways of online piracy.
In other words, the optics are good.
Trump supporters, conversely, tend to be more working class. Most Trump supporters tend to be older people, with families and responsibilities. Most are therefore more likely to spend their money on important shit.
Leaving the issue of personal politics aside, and I do agree that most of the people working on the creative side of Marvel Comics strongly disagree with/oppose Donald Trump, the optics are very bad.
Neither group buys comics. But, considering that American comic book publishers are by-and-large desperate, going for the demographic that has more disposable income, and therefore is more likely to 'pay-off' should attempts to appeal to them be successful, probably seems like the better risk
No.545892
>>545887
>Tumblr has the wealthiest userbase of any social network, with an average income of $80,000 per annum
No.545893
>>545867
>Perlmutter's friendship with Trump is probably the primary reason why they're using Loki as his stand-in in the comics, rather than outright using Trump.
I bet you also think Lex Luthor running for President was a veiled stab at George W. Bush.
>>545887
>Neither group buys comics. But, considering that American comic book publishers are by-and-large desperate, going for the demographic that has more disposable income, and therefore is more likely to 'pay-off' should attempts to appeal to them be successful, probably seems like the better risk
This. Why else do you think they're hiring human garbage like Kate Leth and doing all of this "diversity" crap? They're trying to get in with the younger crowd.
No.545895
>>545893
>I bet you also think Lex Luthor running for President was a veiled stab at George W. Bush.
It wasn't?
No.545914
>>545895
No. The thing started in August of 2000, back when everyone and their mother thought Gore was going to win it.
It wasn't even a satire of American politics, which is usually the case, like when The Penguin ran for Mayor in Batman '66. This upcoming Loki series looks to be in that vein already.
No.545930
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>>545862
>>545863
All management cares about is cash. Writers do seem to care about the agenda, and are kept around because it guarantees clicks/sales/coverage, both from people who agree and from people that don't.
Just look what happened after gamergate popularized archive.is. All of a suddenly service owners started getting messages to remove archived sites or to apply filters, linking archive links on some sites (gawker and marysue if i remember correctly) became a bannable offense, and they churned out a handful of articles on how usage of archiving sites is unethical. All because of potential lost revenue.
No.545933
Most higher ups just don't care. Their in their 50s and probably spent their youth punching hippies and working a bunch. Their hobbies are not going to be comics. It might be reading novels or watching brain dead films to relax from the 15 hours at the office and then play with their kids. And good businessmen don't just stick to 1 company. They travel all around until they finally settle into a position as a boardmember or the like.
So they in clean consciousness don't care about the creative shit.
No.545944
>>545933
It's got more to do with them approaching the comic book industry as businessmen rather than craftsmen. Theres plenty of 30-50 year somethings to go around, who treat comics as a legit form of media and art. Up to a point they even want to make up hokey names for more mature comics like "graphic novel."
No.545946
>>545876
I know that they're venom blasts, but any regular ol' comic reader will probably confuse it for lightning, consider it's brightly colored and usually moves in a zigzag way. Plus, energy blasts in comics all really do the same thing of knocking someone down, so it really doesn't matter if someone thinks it's lightning or an energy projection that acts like lightning. There's also the pheromone thing, but I doubt there will be much of that now that flirtatious themes are sexually oppressing women.
No.545952
>>545946
they ARE lightning
No.545953
Can the retards from /pol/ stay in their containment board and stop shilling their jewish puppet?
Thanks
No.545965
>>545952
what the fuck spider shoots lightning
No.545980
>>545965
It's bio-electricity okay? Every creature generates electricity, and she has learned to channel and discharge through her hands. She just calls it venom blast because she's a spider woman.
Someone skipped their comic book biology class.
No.545985
>>545980
that sounds retarded
No.546013
>>545887
>>545893
Problem is, SJWs never buy their own propaganda. They expect the existing audience to continue reading it.
But in any case; comics are a blasted post-apocalyptic wasteland of what they used to be. Anyone still working in management with them HAS to be in denial, or they'd have ran away screaming into the night. (Or just completely stopped giving a shit, which would explain a lot) Diamond has a death grip on the industry and comic stores are vestigial.
No.546015
>>545953
this post stinks of /leftypol/
No.546028
Wonder when the new Squirrel Girl will start pulling stunts like this.
No.546035
Really hope this shit flops hard and doesn't sell. If I wanted to hear about the hardships of babies and how powerful women are for raising babies, I'd go to tumblr.
No.546053
>>545178
>that artsyle
in the last page you can see the artist pretty much stuck faces on pseudo finsihed heads
No.546057
>>546015
found the poltard
No.546058
Who's writing this shit? I mean, seriously
No.546089
>>545178
>having a child means the end of the fun times
>Jessica used to do selfish, irresponsible shit, but now she's beholden to the life she helped bring into this world
>She-Hulk's ovaries just self-destructed
>>545218
>"Fuck you, kid, I've decided to risk my life and there's nothing you can do about, you little shit!"
Children are a joy. Sacrifices come with the job description. This comic is a shit-stain on a once-beautiful tree's body.
I'm so sorry for the kids that are about to be raised by this shitty, shitty generation. They're going to be so lost.
>>545202
>It probably would be easier if she had a husband.
Fucking bingo.
No.546101
>>545202
B-b-but fish and bicycles, anon!
>>546089
>Children are a joy. Sacrifices come with the job description.
Hell yeah. Sure, the first three months were difficult, but there's nothing like seeing your kids' faces light up and hearing their excited voices when they see daddy's home.
No.546129
So, what are the odds that the kid was the result of a rape that happened off screen and never came up until some future plot twist moment?
It's not like they'll be inventive and have the father be the child, but after he grew up and traveled back in time or even Doctor DOOM or A mutation from cosmic rays that destabilized twin embryos in her womb in such a way that would cause one to fertilize the other or even something insideous like Purple Man
No.546138
>>546129
See >>545218
At least read the thread when you try to pretend you're not offboard.
No.546188
>>546101
>there's nothing like seeing your kids' faces light up and hearing their excited voices when they see daddy's home.
Yes, indeed. Treasure that time, anon.
>mfw my son's 16 and barely acknowledges my existence except to ask for food and rides
>I know he still loves me, but it feels damned cold some days
No.546199
>>545628
/leftypol/ please. You are not "exposing /pol/ infiltration" or whatever the fuck it is you think you're doing.
The sad fact is that this bullcrap has gotten so virulent that people across all boards can spot it a mile off. Just because it furthers your agenda does not make it good for my hobby.
Fuck off to your containment board if you are going to get triggered by people hating on this hipster shit.
No.546201
>>546101
Get back to work, editfag.
No.546202
>>546199
This is a different guy then the guy your attacking but seriously. The agenda is allowed because its what the guys on top think sells at the moment.
Reminder: The CEO Donated a million smackeroos to Trump! And hes the hitler of hitler to SJWS, and half the employees didn't quit as a result. Relax uncle /pol/. Thats a street lamp. Not a nigger with a gun.
No.546203
>>545841
>can't name anything better
>that must mean it's good
Anon, of all types of shit too eat, I recommend horse shit. It's practically straw. Don't want to eat horse shit? Name me some better fecal matter to eat.
You can't, can you?
No.546209
>>546201
1. That's not me.
2. First one's done, second one in progress.
No.546210
>>546202
>nuh uh, you're /pol/ now
Please remove yourself.
No.546215
>>546209
>First one's done, second one in progress.
Excellent.
I'll do my shift once I figure out how to get past Twatter's draconian membership hoops
No.546219
>>546210
>Your logic is faulty and contradicts itself
>Well I don't like being called /pol/ so leave!
I really hate imageboard culture sometimes.
No.546391
>>546215
Make him piss blood, Twitter Bully.
No.546404
>>545210
That looks like Captain Marvel holding the glass of red wine because of her red fingernails, not Spider-Woman.
And I think nursing woman can drink alcohol, they just have to wait like 24 hours before passing it out of their system. (and even then she might have a backup supply).
>>545216
I'll admit the page 2-3 double spread seemed wordy, but also seemed appropriate because it she rambling to the She Hulk and the other woman (and the reader) about it.
There that nice wordless portion with Captain Marvel and then all the superhero friends going out which works really well. (The silhouettes were also a nice visually touch).
Then it all goes to hell with excess words at the end on top of the copy pasted images in the last half.
It makes me think if they got screwed over by a deadline in the process of making this with some of the unfinished coloring and lower page count pointed out by others here.
>>545571
Is there any comic series (or any other medium) where someone has a baby and it's dealt with in a realistic and possibly entertaining way? Or would JJ and LC be the closest to doing that?
No.546408
>>545857
>>546203
>STILL nothing
Jealous that Rogers is such a talented writer he's making millions on TV?
No.546425
>>545210
Nowhere in the frames is she drinking alcohol you dense nigger.
Unless you think she somehow absorbed alcohol molecules through osmosis.
No.546440
>>545218
>I went to a clinic and got inseminated
>What do you mean there are consequences to my actions?
>also I have either spider-blood or spider-genes and some other shit the High Evolutionary did to my body in a lab, but I still want to bring a life into this world because it's my body and I'm feeling baby-crazy
Bring back the Skrull Queen, you killed the wrong Spider Woman
No.546449
Is spider woman's milk radioactive?
No.546453
>>546202
>The agenda is allowed because its what the guys on top think sells at the moment
But Marvel has always has an agenda. You don't think Captain America punching Hitler before the US had even gone to war wasn't a political statement? Or how the X-Men have been an allegory for oppressed minorities most of their existence?
Just recently I was reading some Spider-Man 2099 from that "non-SJW" era of the 90s, and it was all about le evil capitalists being the cause of all things bad in the future.
So again, please stop acting as if Marvel suddenly got a leftist agenda only around 2012 or so.
No.546455
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>>546408
>TV writers
>talented
No.546456
>>546440
>>546449
I'm really hoping there's a situation like when Mary Jane died from Peter's radioactive spider fluids.
No.546457
>>546455
Please share your multimillion dollar salary and the dozens of golden globe you have lying around in your house anon
No.546464
>>546188
He'll come around after graduating from school and becoming full on adult with a real job.
>>545841
>>546408
I'm not that guy, but will give it a shot. Here is a handful:
Alan Moore's Swamp Thing
Hellboy
BPRD
Baltimore
Dardevil: Man Without Fear
Superman: The Red Son
Sandman
Thorgal
First half of Fables was very good too
Not to say that Rogers DnD is bad, but it is not the epitome of comics.
>>546455
Anon, that SUV episode was a masterpiece. Something like that doesn't get written by accident.
No.546465
>>546457
Please continue with the constant appeals to authority, anon. Totally doesn't make you look like a pleb sheep.
No.546466
>>546465
Please continue with the constant shitposting.
Totally doesn't make you look like the retard you are.
No.546469
>>546466
Sorry, I know I'm a retard for not appreciating the value of the fucking academy awards.
No.546481
Can somebody please tell me what Rogers DnD is? I'm totally lost.
No.546485
>>546481
A Dungeons and Dragons comic from a few years ago. Also called Fell's Five.
Personally I think the book reads like if Joss Whedon wrote a DnD campaign, but many on /co/ really love it.
No.546491
>>546453
What's your point? Yeah, they published left leaning books in the past. The same company also published a fair amount of right leaning comic books.
They did a seven year series on Vietnam. One of their popular books was a war comic featuring Nick Fury. They published copious amount of Punisher comics.
One of their top Punisher writers is an open and unapologetic Republican. Another one of their top creators was an out-and-out Randian objectivist. Yet a third one of their top creators was a Libertarian who wrote a book in which he suggested JFK was possessed by Satan.
Nobody's arguing that Marvel was never political. People are arguing that Marvel was never political like this.
Every other book by Marvel now is pushing some progressive agenda. They've race swapped and gender flipped just about every big Marvel superhero there is. They've made a big deal about a new Avengers line up containing all these race and gender swapped characters. They publish poorly written and poorly illustrated comics by Tumblr creators. Books where Spider-Woman is now a strong and progressive single mother. Squirrel Girl is now a fat acceptance superhero. Hellcat is some kind of fag hag who doesn't fight crime. God knows that a comic featuring the Hulk as some transgender demisexual otherkin could only be around the corner.
Why do they do this? Because of some deeply held, deep rooted political beliefs? Fuck no. This exactly the same company being run by exactly the same people who, ten years ago, couldn't stop publishing the type of comic books their current target demographic of Tumblr Social Justice Warriors won't stop complaining about.
The only logical conclusion for such a radical paradigm is, 'for the money'.
No.546526
>>546491
>People are arguing that Marvel was never political like this.
Oldfag here, can confirm. I've been reading Marvel comics since the 70s, and while they've always tried to advance the theory that maybe blacks/gays/women/etc. are also human beings, I've never seen shit like this. The well of creativity has been poisoned by the SJW shit-wipes and their cronyism. This isn't politics, this is IDENTITY POLITICS, the same cancerous pap that is force-fed to kids in the universities. Usually kids have their "Ché" (or whatever) phase, then grow the fuck up, but not this time. This time we've got a bunch of spoiled faggots and dykes who don't actually HAVE to grow up, as their rich daddies keeps providing for them so they don't have to face the harsh realities of life.
This whole batch of fucks needs to be gassed.
No.546528
>>546453
I don't mind a comic having a political point, even one that I totally disagree with. My problem is when that point is made in the fashion of stopping time in the middle of a high speed chase to make a 4th wall breaking and out of character comment about a political agenda that has jack all to do with the story.
No.546534
>>545178
How the fuck did she not expect any of this while pregnant?
Where does this idea even come from, anyway? Every time I listen to a parent, they say how quiet their baby is/was. According to this shit, apparently every fucking baby is colic.
No.546536
>>546534
maybe they mention their kid was quiet because it isnt the norm? hmmm? are you like 12 kid?
No.546541
>>545858
>>546057
>poltard
there's a beautiful irony in leftists bitching about how /pol/ is supposedly invading while clearly being newfags
No.546542
>>546541
>get called out
>desperately scramble for defense
>resort to le ebig libtard newfag maymay
wew, triggered poltard
No.546548
>>546536
>Everyone says it
>Isn't the norm
More like they say their kid was quiet because media tells them their kid should be crying all day every day.
No.546557
>>546466
>Rebuttal is the exact thing the other guy said but with some mad libs.
Is this your first day arguing on the internet, anon?
No.546563
>>546485
>Personally I think the book reads like if Joss Whedon wrote a DnD campaign
Well, based on the panels you posted, I would have to agree.
But considering the same guy apparently made Jackie Chan Adventures, I can't hate him too much.
No.546612
>>546542
>gets called out
>desperately scramble for defense
>resort to le ebig poltard boogeyman
Do you need to be tucked in?
No.546666
>>546404
I can't think of any. The close I can think of is Jubilee finding one and keeping it in the X-men comics. That wasn't too bad.
No.546672
>>546485
It doesn't read like Whedon if it doesn't piss me off, though.
No.546693
>>546491
>The only logical conclusion for such a radical paradigm is, 'for the money'.
I guess I missed the part where you disproved every other reason… or even gave solid proof for this reason.
No.546718
>>545646
>>545642
I like the shaggy design. he looks like he'd work in a food truck
No.546747
>>546526
> a bunch of spoiled faggots and dykes who don't actually HAVE to grow up, as their rich daddies keeps providing for them so they don't have to face the harsh realities of life.
And they call everyone else privileged. It's the most infuriating thing about them.
No.547200
>>545232
>man lays out the truth
>woman gets that constipated look and walks away so she doesn't have to listen
Are they married?
>>546747
>And they call everyone else privileged. It's the most infuriating thing about them.
It is infuriating, but the thing that drives me bananas is that carefully cultivated "smug smirk" that they KNOW makes people's fists itch. It's their goto weapon for when they want to get under someone's skin during a debate. They must practice it in the mirror every night before bed.
No.547207
>>546485
The dialog is snappy, but it's not quite as quippy and snarky as a Whedon script. At least they are capable of holding normal conversations throughout the books. Whedon writes every line like he wants to put it on a t-shirt.
No.547216
>>546485
>2nd pic
>guy wearing a skirt
SJW INDOCTRINATION EVERYWHERE
No.547252
>>546453
>Just recently I was reading some Spider-Man 2099 from that "non-SJW" era of the 90s, and it was all about le evil capitalists being the cause of all things bad in the future.
>evil capitalists
You just know who they were REALLY talking about…
No.547367
Idea for a one-shot comic - An everyman protagonist (Steve Rogers?) awakes in a Marvel universe five or so years from now, where every bad SJW-driven decision Marvel has made is taken to a logical extreme. He tours around this depressing nightmare, constantly shaking his head in disbelief at how things went so wrong, completely without the influence of any easily identifiable "supervillain"
Squirrel Girl is now a 400-lb hambeast that stalks around a college campus she's far too old for, picking fights with anyone thinner than she is.
Spider-Woman is still a single mom, but now has half a dozen multi-ethnic toddlers clinging to her legs even as she waddles into battle. She doesn't know who any of the fathers are.
Loki is now Thor; he explains that lifting Mjolnir was simply a matter of shaming Odin into lowering the bar for "worthiness" until it was set so ridiculously low that literally anyone could lift it. Any attempt to argue against his worthiness is met with post-modern deconstruction of worthiness as a social construct. And so Loki is now Thor, and chooses to dress in campy drag just to further spit on his brother's name and appeal to his fangirls.
That's all I got, but feel free to build on that. What would become of Spider-Man, Captain America, the X-Men?
No.547369
>>545213
>Denmark
Don't you go bringing my motherland into this progressive shitheap Marvel.
It may be a tax haven but they haven't forgotten how to hate.
No.547508
>>547367
1) What happened to Whor? Killed I assume?
2) Spider-Man - Peter Parker was killed and replaced by Miles Morales, who has become a tyrannical ruler of his own corner of New York City (Queens, perhaps?) owing to the fact that his venom blast and other extremely over-powered abilities make him virtually unstoppable, even by the other Avengers
Captain America - Well, since Steve Rogers is your protagonist we'll say he disappeared and was replaced by Captain Falcon, who proceeded to lead a #BlackLivesMatter chapter in New York City that, with his help, successfully managed to take over Manhattan and turn it into a modern day Uganda
The X-Men: America is over-run with them since anyone who has a problem with mutants is a mutantphobic, sexist shitlord (or some such) leading to the government, which has some mutant representatives owing to the mutant lobby, enacting an open border policy for 'refugee' mutants wishing to come into the country
Professor X: Killed himself because the rampant stupidity of the current Marvel Universe was just too much for his psychic mind to take
Wolverine: Became feral and lives almost exclusively in the woods since one of the mutant students told him to embrace his identity as a demisexual genderfluid mutant Wolverine-kin
Iceman: Runs a gay bar somewhere in #BLM occupied New York
No.547576
>>547508
1) I would imagine Jane Foster clung to the hammer right up until her cancer killed her, while Loki was waiting in the wings to come scoop it right up before "Odinson" could rightfully reclaim it.
2) Honestly Miles Morales is just a symptom of a longstanding problem for Spidey - his own popularity, which has resulted in Marvel producing a never-ending parade of knock-offs from Venom to Ben Reilly to Scarlet Kaine to Spock and Miles, ultimately resulting in Spider-Island and Spider-verse. I would see Peter rendered helpless and immobile in a huge web-like system of tubes and medical equipment designed to continuously bleed him of his radioactive lifeblood, which Miles and a class of Spider-people use to maintain their powers and vampire-like existence.
3) I like the idea of the BlackLivesMatter, but think you could probably roll in Black Panther and Wakanda into it.
4) Mutants as immigrants is fine, though I'm not sure it makes sense since most mutants are born in America anyway, aren't they?
I would like to have a mutants as LGBT metaphor though; imagine that Mojo has been hired to run America's television networks, and has flooded the programming with pro-mutant shows that push deviant weirdness as the new normal. Cyclops and his harem of teenage Emma Frost clones star in a "Modern Family" type sitcom opposite his adult son Cable, who is dating a clone of his own mother. Meanwhile Beast is set to headline an all-furry remake of "Ghostbusters".
I like the Wolverine idea too, especially since it harkens back to his original origin story as a hyper-evolved feral Wolverine. Would be hilarious to see Logan wander into town naked and steal a steak off someone's plate at a restaurant, and when Steve calls him on it he's like "I'm storing fat for hibernation, shitlord! Winter's coming, check your human-privilege!"
No.547999
>>546453
>Just recently I was reading some Spider-Man 2099 from that "non-SJW" era of the 90s, and it was all about le evil capitalists being the cause of all things bad in the future.
OH MY GOD YOU READ A CYBERPUNK STORY AND IT USED CYBERPUNK CLICHÉS YOU POOR TRIGGERED CHILD HOW DID YOU SURVIVE
No.548006
>>547252
Jews never had cool ponytails.
No.548007
>>547216
Armor skirts are perfectly normal: it's an easy way to protect a part of the body that really needs to move freely and can't be covered by rigid stuff.
None of them were made from scale armor though. Chain yes, scale no.
No.548010
>>547367
>Captain America wakes up in modern America
>The political parties have been hijacked by super villain radicals with their own Captain Americas
>The Right has Commie Smasher, while the Left has Captain Falcon
>Both are running for President in an election that's guaranteed to destroy the nation
>Cap has to somehow subdue both sides and bring back the America he fought for
A perfect Cap story, one that pisses off both /pol/ and the SJWs.
No.548016
Honestly? Not as bad as I thought it'd be.
Very visibly rushed, and very visibly not written for the medium it's in. By which I mean "short-length American monthly comics", not "comics". I think the premise's fine, and the writing's doing a decent job of conveying Jessica's confusion and learning and shattering of preconceived ideas regarding her new situation. But it's a format that needs a huge page number to work, to have space. Otherwise you either hyper-compress it, or like in here, feel ripped off you paid nearly 5 bucks for just a small segment of the story.
No.548021
>>548010
That actually sounds like a good story, which would generate even more outrage coverage than Spiderwoman cover. If Marvel is really trying to make money using outrage tactics in comic book form, this would be a good premise.
No.548051
>>548010
>>The Right has Commie Smasher, while the Left has Captain Falcon
>High Energy vs. Social Justice Faggot
TORN FROM TODAY'S HEADLINES!
No.548052
>>547576
>The Avengers now features just normal people whose super power is being 'Indian' 'Gay' or 'Transgender' because everyone is a super hero in their own way!
>A crowd of normiefags hung Thor, Donald Blake, when he tried to confront the fact that Asgard was falling and they needed help but was only met with 'Why are there no black asgardians', 'why are there no gay asgardians' 'you look awfully aryan' 'string him up!'. This was applauded.
>Deadpool has been replaced by Moviepool, The real deadpool is still in the universe and has to deal with this shit and reveals to Steve he was replaced a long time ago with some whacky reddit-tier hero whilst he went into hiding and working for SHIELD
>Fantastic Four is now Doctor Doom, Valerie Richards, Franklin Richards and Johnny Storm. Meanwhile in New York "The future foundation" is compiled of Mister Fantastic a transgender female who identifies as a male (thus Mister and Fantastic because they are trans), The Invisible woman (a rape victim who feels invisible in the world), The Human Torch (MICHAEL B JORDAN) and The Thing (A gay furry)
>The world is falling apart because now that the heroes are so diluted with normies and regulations villains can essentially do whatever the fuck they want. Steve finds out that there is one person who might be able to save him, one that might be able to fix the world…Red Skull.
>Red Skull and Hydra are still in operation in secret, but are forced to using imageboards and hidden meetings. Some heroes have joined (Deadpool, Punisher, Sabretooth, Magneto) in an attempt to fix the world but know it's only a matter of time until they're replaced.
>Red Skull reveals it's reality itself being manipulated and they're trying to work out how the fuck to stop this shit. (Often when Red Skull talks his speech bubbles are censored making it hard to communicate with Steve, Red Skull points this out)
No.548055
>>548021
>If Marvel is really trying to make money using outrage tactics
I honestly don't think they are. I think they're concentrating on the movie revenue and letting their golf buddies' faggot kids do whatever they want in the books. And what those little shits want is to anger every single person who isn't in their fag-clique.
>>548052
>>The Avengers now features just normal people whose super power is being 'Indian' 'Gay' or 'Transgender' because everyone is a super hero in their own way!
I'm 99% sure they surf all the /co/s, looking for ideas just like that one to one step closer to buying hunting knives in bulk.
No.548064
>>548055
>And what those little shits want is to anger every single person who isn't in their fag-clique.
Nice to know you just got into comics.
No.548070
>>548064
>better sales for us
>struggling to get past 20k
No.548078
>>548052
>Reality itself is being manipulated
>Someone had the bright idea to hook a cosmic cube up to the internet. Enough likes, reblogs, and upvotes can retroactively make an untrue thing into actual fact. Red Skull and Steve Rogers can subconsciously detect and resist it's reality warps due to their past experience weilding cosmic cubes.
>In a world gone mad, the only ones Steve Rogers and Red Skull can trust is each other.
Damn this is sounding like an awesome read.
Alternative idea for the Fantastic Four: They are entirely absent, having been bound by the Red Tape of Cytorrak to counter-Earth which is devoid of other heroes, where Reed's sensors are dimly able to perceive the "real" marvel u that they are no longer a part of and unable to participate in.
No.548090
>>548078
…Y'know what, Drawfags if you're out there.
I would pay for this shit. Happily.
Name your price and let's do this shit once we streamline it.
No.548094
>>548090
how rich are you? because to do justice for this, you'd need to be paying like hell tbh
No.548096
>>548010
>The Right has Commie Smasher
I think you've found /pol/ in comic form.
No.548098
>>548094
I'm pretty well off and have contacts, it'll be cool
No.548099
>>548098
Would you say you're well off enough for close to, if not actually, 100 bucks a page?
No.548112
>>548090
Start a patreon?
BASIC PLOT
PRELUDE
Steve Rogers is doing his thing being a hero when an accident renders him frozen in ice again, and the other heroes are too wrapped up in their own shit to remember to go rescue him. Time passes.
FIVE YEARS LATER
Steve is thawed out, and nursed back to health by (SUGGESTION NEEDED; Foggy Nelson? Ben Urich?) who drops exposition and acts as Steve's guide to what's been going on for the missing years.
Steve sets out into this world in search of his shield; he's been told there is a Captain America running New Wakanda (New York) and suspects that it is Sam Wilson. Cap sets out towards New York; when he gets there he finds it in a state of urban war between the Black Panthers and the Spider-Men.
Steve survives a skirmish between the two sides, his white skin and blonde hair marking him as an immediate target for the gun-toting Black Panthers. However as soon as Steve disarms them and gives one a wallop to the face, they fall to the ground shouting "Dindu nuffin!", and amazingly the Spider-Men instantly switch sides to protect their former enemies from Steve.
Steve flees, and finds shelter with an old friend; Jessica Drew. She is heavily pregnant and haggard looking, a swarm of spider-toddlers crawling on her legs and every wall and ceiling of her home. As she struggles to herd her many multi-ethnic children she talks to Steve about the multitude of Spider-man knockoffs roaming New Wakanda. She explains that they started out mostly as clones, kept from degenerating by regularly ingesting radioactive blood from the original Peter Parker, who is hooked up to a life-support system at the old Horizon Labs. As Jessica narrates to Steve, we get a glimpse of Peter's horrific new life, suspended in the middle of a "web" of tubing that continuously sucks blood from him. As he hangs there, we watch as one of the clones (this one a clone of Gwen Stacy, wearing the "Spider-Gwen" outfit) slinks along the "web" towards Peter, where she tells him she's hungry. Peter mumbles out "~I deserve this~!" as Gwen feeds on him like a vampire, and continues to apologize endlessly to Gwen even as she tortures him. When sated, Gwen leaves Peter there to suffer while and rejoins Miles Morales, who is busy having a sloppy makeout session with a spider-woman version of MJ Watson in front of Peter. (Background gag: Spider-woman version of Aunt May getting dicked by Spider-Ock?)
Jessica's story ends, Steve is clearly disgusted. He thanks her for giving him a chance to catch his breath, and she points him in the direction of Captain Falcon
(CONT)
No.548128
>>548096
Pretty sweet costume tbh
No.548140
>>545684
>>545684
> What made her big eventually were the gamergoys.
Her popularity peaked long before gamergate. And even when GG did happened I don't recall her getting anymore popular than she already is. Sure she got some more coverage but that was mostly from the same sites that already supported her, and amongst like five other SJW who were "harassed" by GG.
No.548452
>>548112
Patreon has got it down. I'd give like 200 bucks
No.548541
>>546188
He's probably in that phase where hanging with parents is lame or something, but you should try and doing something with him.
i'm sure you already do or try to do those things, but I wanted you to know I appreciate your trying.
Fuck, my dad forgot my birthday when I turned 16
No.548543
>>548541
Jesus, man. It's too early in the morning for this shit.
No.548578
>>548064
>Nice to know you just got into comics.
No.548581
>>548541
>He's probably in that phase where hanging with parents is lame or something
Yes, he is, and that's fine, but…
>but you should try and doing something with him.
I've tried. The problem is his fucking Xbone. We used to game together on the 360, and do other shit as well, but now all he wants to do is play online with his friends. I was a huge gamer at that age, but I also had outside interests and managed to get out of the house every once in awhile. I can't seem to find any hobbies he wants to pursue, and if I didn't know better, I'd swear he's gone full MGTOW since he's friends with girls but hasn't asked any out. And I KNOW he's not gay. I've seen him checking them out when he thinks I'm not looking. With the exception of a youth group once a week, the rest of the time is spent with the games. And since his grades are excellent, I don't even have an excuse to ban him from the infernal device.
No.548584
>>548581
>And since his grades are excellent, I don't even have an excuse to ban him from the infernal device.
seems to me you've got a pretty good excuse, "you're playing this constantly, man, come on, I don't want to ban gaming from here since it'd be stupid and hipocritical, but I do want you to try and find some other activity too. Not to remove gaming entirely, but so you do more than that"
No.548686
>>548112
>nursed back to health by (SUGGESTION NEEDED; Foggy Nelson? Ben Urich?)
Should be a woman. Sharon Carter maybe
No.548699
>>548070
>>548064
>>548064
Well, guess that probes what inevitably fosters apathy.