No.547150
>Good animation and an artstyle that strikes a middle ground between realism and cartooniness
>Respects its audience instead of spoonfeeding or talking down to them
>Has a consistent tone, and takes itself fairly seriously most of the time, so that viewers are emotionally invested in the action and the characters
>Comedic moments help relieve the tension rather than detract from it
>Villains are legitimately intimidating, yet have distinct personalities
>Protagonists are neither assholes or retards
>Human characters behave as they should in Transformers: by being ciphers for the audience that don't shift focus away from the actual protagonists
>Is neither cynical, needlessly optimistic or full of itself
Why is this show so good and why can't other shows be as good?
No.547151
It fails since it didnt have mad scientist wheel jack
No.547155
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No.547160
eh, I liked it but I wouldn't go that far. It still had a lot of problems that persisted throughout the series run. Human characters that barely contributed to the story other than having those emotional moments or being human is distress. Those 3 kids barely grew up from what they started out as. They kind of faded into the background by the final season when they realized that transformers were the main focus, which is good and bad depending on what you wanted out of the series.
The war aspect was kind of flakey in the beginning as they searched for the magic tool of the week or new decepticon for the moment. It did have the best version of arcee. Even if it worked off the transformers movie, it still turned out good. I think I remember the backgrounds being kind of muddy or lacking textures because it felt desaturated at times and just hard to look at. Needed to get out of that canyon, desert background a lot more.
I'd give it a 6/10. Enjoyable but had some room for improvement.
No.547164
>>547160
I guess you're entitled to that opinion. Still, it's a lot better than a majority of kids cartoons during its run.
No.547165
didn't it turn to shit in later seasons?
No.547166
>>547160
Fowler was pretty great though.
Silas and MECH were underused. I've said it a zillion times before, but evil X-COM is a great Transformers foil.
No.547176
>>547166
This.
Short tie black man was a really good human character and deserved more exposure, and so did Silas.
Actually, I would have been really happy if instead of a Unicron finale we got a Silas finale.
>>547165
Not really, they squeezed in more toys, but the writing was still competent, and characters were still likable. Entire series was filled with mcguffin chasing, from start to finish, though. If that annoys you, well, it never really changes
No.547271
Because it was coasting on Bayformers?
No.547279
We can't have nice things anon. You know this. We can only enjoy these happy accidents briefly before trudging through shit like sausage party and season 20 of family guy before we get to our next batch of breathable air.
Why do you think shows like gravity falls or games like undertale get such huge fanbases? Because they are so good? Or because everything else is so bad people cling to these little points of good in a turbulent perpetual shit storm that is popular media.
I want to fuck bikebooty
No.547281
>>547279
I want to Soudwave to strangle me to death with his tentacles
No.547301
I liked it much better than the current Robots in Disguise. RiD is such an ugly show, with a mix of CG and 2D that does not mesh well, and the humans are even worse than the three kids from Prime.
No.547305
>>547301
>>547301
it also shits at the canon Prime established.
No.547402
>>547301
>>547305
This, so much
I really liked Prime, even if it was flawed
But holy shit, RiD is so bad. Its dragging prime's canon through the mud. The rescue bots, a show for literal toddlers, is better than RiD
No.547407
>kill off Cliffjumper in the first five minutes
No, fuck this show.
Fuck it forever
No.547422
>>547407
why is this a problem?
No.547437
Personally I felt that towards the latter half of the seasons the show tipped too heavily towards the Auto-Bots favor.
Like one thing I found bullshit was how Bumblebee comes back alive and is able to finish off Megatron, and they played up his death then just immediately undid it.
In general though it felt like most of the Decepticons stopped being threats to ANY of the Autobots in the later seasons.
Shockwave for instance was going nearly toe-to-toe with Bumblebee and Smokescreen before during the fight for some Predacon DNA while he was getting his ass kicked by Ultra Magnus who recently lost his hand to Predaking.
No.547442
They should have let Optimus die and Rodimus'd up Smokescreen.
No.547644
No.547651
No.547672
>>547644
Yes.
Wheeljack is a walking proof that you cannot make a perfect assumption on what kind of character a certain transformer is going to be in a new reboot.
So there is no way of knowing if Cliff would have been at all a good character. He is not present for long enough to establish a solid personality or story.
So for all intents and purposes, you're complaining "there was no character named Johnny in the show!"
No.547703
>>547150
>Directing doesn't follow the "show don't tell" advice
>Instead it does the complete opposite to bore you to death and make the job easier for the writers and animators, slacking off all day.
Fuck shows and shows like this.
No.547711
>>547437
Well, the Decepticons only really lost in the end because most of their forces had been zombified and wiped out by Starscream and Knockout's wacky experiments gone wrong.
No.547797
I hated Miko with a passion.
No.548125
>>547703
I assume you're talking about all the times Ratchet was relegated to boring backstory slideshow narrator?
No.548146
>>547797
whats wrong with my waifu?
No.548171
>>547797
well at least she was not that robot girl from animated, damn was she annoying
No.548403
>>547672
That and Cliffjumper was voiced by The Rock. Think the idea was meant to be killing him off to establish how dire the stakes are. Though they kinda underuse that.
Prime used what it had well, but I think it was another victim of the CGI trap; they can't make many characters or even extras because of all the effort that goes into new assets.
No.548420
>>548171
>not liking robot loli
No.548499
Armada > all post-armada shows
No.548812
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>Be Transformers show
>think its be shit
>holy fuck this is actually really fucking good
>Great villains and heroes
>it ends
>a fucking sequel series is announced
>be hype
>it comes out
>All the characters turn to absolute shit nothing like the past showselfs
>but it has that one character that somehow almost redeems the show
It was Jetstorm in Beastmachines and the fucking spider murders him
I dont want to come off as an SJW but I really liked Strongarm in RiD her design and personality were pretty good we need some more beefy fembots
No.549212
>>548420
>>548171
>Sari
>Ever being anywhere near as bad as Miko
'no'
No.549323
>>548812
Man Brian Drumond had the time right there
No.550138
>>548499
Armada really has not aged well. Though Energon makes it look like a masterpiece, yes.
No.550155
>>550138
>mfw even thinking of armada and/or energon
No.550162
>>550155
Though the original Robots In Disguise (the anime one) has aged surprisingly well, mostly because it's clearly meant to be a funny cartoon with giants robots fighting each other and having comical misunderstandings.
Also, Sky-Byte.
No.550220
>>550162
Best Starscream too
No.550223
>>548812
>more beefy fembots
more Stryka?
No.550265
>>547150
>>Good animation and an artstyle that strikes a middle ground between realism and cartooniness
Yet it's still very empty looking thanks to TV budget
No.550271
>>550265
It's visually appealing for what it is in my eyes. Yes, I do think more money should've been thrown at it to at least give the kids actual hair physics.
No.550406
>>550138
>>550155
animation-wise, yeah armada is a bit stale.
the story, on the other hand, is far superior to anything after it, hands fucking down.
No.550433
>>550406
>armarda
>superior story
>anything about it being superior
>collect them all plot with a shit end
You must have watched it as a kid and never looked back. That's the only reason I can think of as to why you'd think that it was anything besides headache inducing garbage.
At least Energon had the courtesy to start out coherent and interesting before devolving into nonsense about creating stars and cities and alternate universes. Armada couldn't give two fucks if it made sense or was any good.
No.550435
>>550406
>armada
>superior
>to anything
no, actually, I'm having a hard time thinking of any piece of fiction ever that would have a plot inferior to armada.
I'm pretty sure that a roll of grey toilet paper has a story superior to armada.
Let me ask you a question: when was the last time you watched this show? Because I too had fond memories of both armada and energon from my childhood, and about a year ago I decided to refresh them.
I watched entirety of armada and I can say it was one of the worst cartoon experiences I've had in a long time.
The plot was barely present, most of the episodes being filler, and when it was around, it was incoherent. Not as incoherent as Energon, but unfortunately, more boring.
The only good thing about the show is Starscream's turn to the good side and his sacrifice, and it is by far overpraised by the fandom. It the actual show, it was rushed and didn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
No.550577
So, am I just blinded by nostalgia, or was Cybertron good? Granted looking back at the cgi they used, it doesn't hold up too well, but was the story good at all?
No.550581
>>550577
I wouldn't have much hope for the dub, since they tried to link it to energon/armada.
I watched the first few episodes, and they were all over the place. The story felt like scrambled eggs.
No.550606
>>550435
Nigger shut up
Galvatron was GOAT
No.550610
>>550606
Wasn't it literally "Megatron paints his armor in a new color, and then says 'and you shall call me Galvatron from now on!'"
No.550611
>>550610
Alright, wise guy, MEGATRON was GOAT.
I was just calling him that because that's who we was at the end of the series
No.550733
>>550581
Sounds like it woulda been a lot better if they'd just made it standalone like the Japanese version.
No.550735
>>550435
Armada Starscream was just a cut-rate Dinobot.