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The thread is now archived, but it doesn't look like the guy doing the Scooby Doo and the Ghoul School themed tarot cards finished the set. I am going to post them here in hope he sees this and finishes them.


i don't get the fascination with an abandoned 80s IP.


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< Note to creator:

< Why is The Devil marked card 14?


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< And why are some of the cards 745x1200 and others 870x1400?



So how's the pitching going on?



I'm legit curious as well. I haven't kept track of this project for literal years. Sadly this thing is now too damn good for Cartoon Network so you're probably better off pitching it as a comic or something.


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Gonna add this image to the fray.



Is that new?




>The thread is now archived

Archive link? I have no idea what this is all about.


Wow this makes me nostalgic. This was one of my favourite movies as a kid and I'd forgotten about it completely.


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In honor of trips, enjoy some Winne.

Plague of Gripes kinda knocked it out of the park with a re-design of her outfit. At least I think it was him.



It wasn't. That design belongs to Toonspew.



No it was posted last thread.

Y'know what, lets make this thread different from the last one and make some OC



Sure, are there any drawfags around?



He really did.




Apparently a guy named Toonspew. Nigger needs to finish what he started.





No, the artist is Mister D. Toonspew is a writer who commissioned the art.


Which Ghoul Girl would you take as your wife and why?


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Jughead from archie.



Sibella because, just like Buffy, I'm a slut for vampires.



We must summon Toonspew so he can update us





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I'm not Beetlejuice, fam.

Things have been really busy at the funeral home since half our staff has retired, gone on sick leave, or paternity leave in the last couple months and they haven't hired anyone new to replace them. I did get out to Emerald City Con and picked up a couple quick sketches (attached) which I'm looking for an anon with coloring skills if anyone wants something to do.

Mr. D is also finsihing up the last few cards in the tarot set - they are inked and colored, he's just putting the shading and final touches on them currently, so shouldn't be too much longer. Then i'm going to commission a card-back art to match and re-release everything in consistent file sizes as a single zip folder. I'm also going to be contacting a printing company about getting them printed and cut on glossy cardstock so that they can be used as an actual deck of tarot cards if so desired. Mostly for myself but if there are enough people who would like a copy of their own I could start a collection to produce multiple decks… I dunno, should I start a kickstarter or something? Or would people want to just contact me and send me a paypal payment to cover their share of the cost?

I'm all for new OC being produced. And I think that whoever said I should start a blog to contain all the material is correct… we've ended up repeating the same info in thread after thread, so the time has come.

So some questions I'll throw out to the crowd here:

1) Who wants to take a swing at coloring these pics? Post your best efforts. Tanis, I should mention, is intended to be casting a spell so try adding some kirby dots or SFX around her hands to show the mystical energy she's manipulating.

2) What's the best place to start a blog? Blogger, tumbler, something else?

3) Pitch a quick idea for a fic and I'll try writing up a pastebin story, something to put up in the new blog.



>I'm not Beetlejuice

And yet, here you are.



I recommend Blogger since it's by far the most user friendly imo. Plus you don't have to worry about getting flagged for posting nsfw content.

As for a fic idea, how abouy Sibella and Roper sharing a romantic night in a cemetary?



>Pitch a quick idea for a fic and I'll try writing up a pastebin story, something to put up in the new blog.

Winnie gets sick of having to constantly maintain her fur and claws, so she just thinks "fuck it", only to have her slothful ways start to hold her back, literally and figuratively.



>I dunno, should I start a kickstarter or something?

At the moment, no. You're dealing with a copyrighted property and you're reach is too low. Besides the imageboards where else knows about this?




>What's the best place to start a blog?



stop ruining monsterlolis


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TBH I'm not planning to post any NSFW content on the coming blog, in the vain hopes that I might be able to get DC or WB to take a look at it sometime in the future. I might run a secondary one for anything too risque for the main blog, but right now I'm guessing that 8chan would be a suitable enough place to upload anything like that. It's not like there is a huge flood of it (except perhaps in October) and most of the time you could just go to Paheal or another booru site of your choice.


Good advice, I guess I'll just have a half-dozen or so decks printed and leave my contact info and selling price on the blog if anyone wants to buy one from me.

On that front, here are the last three cards to complete the set. I'll be releasing the full, high-quality card images in a zip file on the blog (with a corrected Devil) once it is up, and Mr. D will be doing a card-back as well.

On the topic of generating OC and discussion in the thread, lets try a little worldbuilding: Grimwood Finishing School and Calloway Military Academy are located in a remote swampy area of the American Northeast (Vermont? Massachusetts?). While the Grimwood school doesn't show up on any official maps, the Calloway Academy does and has a campus that includes a perimeter surrounding a section of Barren Bog, where Grimwood is located somewhere therein.

After that, we've got room to build. A school the size of a military academy would require a town nearby to provide logistical support, and logically it's going to be the first point of human civilization that the ghoul girls will encounter on any occasion that they are able to escape the confines of the campus. So let's pick a name and try to flesh this town out a little; what are some interesting buildings, who works/lives in them, and which students are most likely to have a reason to visit them?


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>American northeast

As someone who lives in this area, I can say with no uncertainty that we have no alligators here, and our swamps generally aren't that large, flat, or lively.

I would say deep south if it weren't for the complete lack of accents, though it's the only part of this country that has alligators.



There's always Florida.



That's true, many of them seem to have lighter accents for some reason as well, so it could fit in with the canon universe.


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Plus, the state itself is a nexus of weird shit. So anything that appears to be out of the ordinary, is just another Monday



I'm thinking that if Grimwood and Calloway are long standing institutions, the local town is equally as old; and will need a name that is old and worn, but still inviting. One Idea I have is Mossy Meadow. It sounds mildly revolting, yet eerily curious. At least to my currently inebriated mind.

As for locations or buildings of interest, I had an idea of a country club & golf course; The Clubfoot Country Club, and Mossy Greens. Colonel Calloway is a regular of the course in the off-season, and is considering becoming a member of the club. A Coat of Arms with a Clubfoot as a centerpiece is amusing to me.


I concur.



What, someone's trying to pitch Ghoul School as an ongoing series? I doubt it could really get anywhere; even if it's better and older, it's too similar to Monster High.



The biggest question thus far is how is this different from Monster High?



They aren't over sized Barbie dolls, thats for one.



It'll have actual characters.



How so?


Have you commissioned any new lewds of the girls TS?


Bumping for an update.



You're going to be waiting for a while.



There's been some.


>This revival is still being attempted.

Massive prompts to you, Toonspew, you managed to create an interesting and fleshed out world from a crappy 1980s movie.

Incidentally, I would totally buy GS merch if it was based on your stuff.


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I didn't do this and IIRC, its a WIP.


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You're not kidding, it's been a while since I could put any time towards GS stuff. Thankfully, 8ch/co/ is exactly as slow as I need it to be to suit my schedule. But there has been some progress at least, which I'll go on about below;

First of all, Mr. D has finished the back of the cards for the tarot decks (pics related). As you can see it comes in both a "pristine" and a "eroded" version, depending on whether or not the Grimwood mausoleum has had a wash this month or not. The school crest took a little thought to design, but the concept here is that the school's core values are represented symbolically here being "Leadership, Achievement, Academics and Arts". It shouldn't take a lot of thought to figure out which of the main characters maps to each pillar of Ms. Grimwood's curriculum, with the new kid Tanis being undifferentiated and able to explore each with the guidance of her friends. The latin motto of the school translates to "Here Be Monsters", and the twin dragons rampant on either side is a nod to Matches the school mascot.

I'm prepping the whole deck to print up a dozen copies or so through http://www.drivethrucards.com/

While I will not be selling these for profit or even at cost, I will be giving them away to interested anons. My plan right now is to hold some sort of fanfiction/fanart contest in Spooktober 2018 and offer the decks free to whoever submits the best content.

Speaking of content, I've been working on stuff to put up on the blog so that it isn't empty when it goes live. The first thing I'd like to post is a fleshed out setting, including commissioned art of a map of the schools and their relation to other nearby places of interest. I figure 8chan will work as a place to post "rough draft" concepts and get a bit of feedback before a more polished version goes to the blog.



You're not wrong, but there's not reason why this reboot HAS to have a native population of alligators surrounding the school just because it was in the original 1988 version. The original also had a two-headed shark living in the school's (presumably fresh-water) moat. While the original is certainly something I want to respect and pay homage to, I'm also not trying to completely replicate it detail by detail.

Florida isn't a bad idea; in addition to swamps and storms and a reputation for weirdness you also have easy access to the ocean for beach and nautical stories, such as ghost pirates, sea monsters, and I guess there's also the Skunk Ape. On the other hand, Florida has a strong association with sunny, hot weather which is a bit at odds with the intent of making Grimwood built as a pastiche of drafty old European castles and dungeons that typically serve as settings for gothic horror stories. They also don't get snow, so it'd be hard to do a Christmas or winter episode.

My previous idea of the American Northeast was to make the city an analogue of something like Salem or Lovecraft's Arkham; depending on exactly where it's supposed to exist it could be in proximity to colonial-age cities that have lots of old buildings and room for ghost stories and local witch legends. You also have The Jersey pine barrens and the Jersey Devil, Sleepy Hollow and the Headless Horseman, and Mothman in West Virginia isn't far away either. Between the two options, the northeast just seems like it has a lot more material to draw from and spin into stories, even if that means no alligators. Not that we couldn't still have an urban-legend "albino sewer gator" loose in the town's plumbing if we wanted as well.

So that's my present thinking on the subject, but you're welcome to convince me otherwise. As for the town's name, "Mossy Meadow" sounds too comfy I think. In general I find that the ideal mix of cute/spooky is to surround the cute MC's in some legit spooky surroundings, which highlights their cuteness by contrast. When everything is cute you get more into Monster High or Hotel Transylvania territory, which can also be fun for some audiences but is more silly and difficult to take seriously. Maybe something that alludes to something dark in the town's past would be preferable for the sake of worldbuilding. Here's a few ideas;

-"Gallowsgrove" (Implying there was once a lot of hangings done here)

-"Covensend" (implying a coven of witches met their doom here)

-"Cain's Lot" (Biblical reference, and riffing on Stephen King)

Let me know if you like the ring of one of those, or something better occurs to you.

Next, I've written up some "featured locations" that will exist past the borders of the schools and some characters that the Ghouls are likely to meet there, which I'll put in the following post. Again, anything you see posted on 8chan is considered a rough draft and your feedback will be considered before it takes on more permanence on the blog.



Hey thanks, I appreciate the kind words. I realize that this thread moves very slowly and I wish I could pump out more content regularly, but alas I am not a college kid with tons of free time anymore. I do my best though.


The only lewd art that I'm responsible for is still in the works; one of the artists I'm a patron of is going to be doing 1 character each month until a group shot is complete, and so far he's finished 1 girl (Tanis), so I'll be able to post the finished work in… Nov 1st, although I'll ask if he can rush it out in time for Halloween. It's nothing TOO hardcore, just the ghouls wearing Hooters/Raisins uniforms (depending on their respective physiques) with a nude variant.


Hey, good start so far for a WIP! It's a nice alternative of a color scheme too, for what a more realistic and less technicolor rendition of Sibella might look like. My only suggestion is that the mess on her chin should probably be a brighter red so that it is clearly blood… right now it looks like drool (although maybe that's what they were going for? I guess Sibella does look a little amorous in this pose).


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Well, if we set alligators to the side, then the northeast could work fine.

You'd most likely want to go with Maine, New Hampshire, or Massachusetts. They have somewhat large swamps, they're on the coast, and they have plenty of rural areas near said coast. You could also go with western New York, which is on the Great Lakes (they're like the Atlantic, except even more turbulent somehow). Eastern New York is way too built up near the Atlantic, Vermont doesn't have a coastline or any really large swamps, New Jersey is too built up near most of its boring, featureless coast, and anything further south is straying from the setting too much.

Alternitavely, if your budget's really low you could change the setting to Canada and make it a cheap Flash cartoon.

As for the names, Gallowsgrove is a bit too heavy-handed, and Cain's Lot doesn't really fit. Covensend could work, though.

A lot of towns are named after people, you could make a name from a fitting historical figure. Like Howardsville or Howardston, for instance (taken from Howard Phillip Lovecraft).



Perhaps it could exist in some unspecified amalgam of a state?


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That's pretty much New England if you only include VT NH ME, and not the heathen shitholes to the south barring portions of MA.

It could work. I mean, it's not like this cartoon would be heavily grounded in reality anyways. Hell, we could even have it be set on a mysterious island in the middle of the Atlantic. There could even be a plot built around that. The island could have some powerful relic on it that prevents it from being detected by any normal means, and the girls would have to defend it from from anyone who would aim to steal or destroy it.

Or not, I'm just pulling these ideas straight out of my ass.




How about this? The school stays in one place most of the time but, because then it could be implied to have a degree of enchanted sentience, which allows it to be wherever it needs to be.


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A boot hill type name would fit, but honestly something that's just innocuous would work too (I mean there's nothing spooky about the name Innsmouth but everyone who knows, know that it's an eerie name). If you want spooky maybe just go with part of a famous serial killer's name, and add ville as needed (Wayneville, Bundy, Haigh, ect)


So the School would be like a Baba Yaga house, moving about on chicken legs (don't even have to show it, just one of those weird background things).



>So the School would be like a Baba Yaga house, moving about on chicken legs (don't even have to show it, just one of those weird background things).

I mean, its more like the Room of Requirement from Harry Potter. It appears when one needs it the most. Same thing for the school, but it appears where it needs to be.


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I think "Covensend" is pretty innocuous sounding, at least as much as Innsmouth ("In Mouth", i.e. you're going to get eaten there). It's not THAT important a point to dwell on so if there's no major objections I think I'm going to go with Covensend and say that it's located in New England until I need to get more specific than that. 75% of the plot will occur in or around one of the two schools anyway so the name of the town isn't something that's going to come up a whole lot, but I did want to be consistent and establish the setting firmly. I like the serial killer suggestion so I'll probably end up using that in some of the other place names, like Gacy St. and Dahmer Ave.

The moving school concept is fun but probably something that will be kept in reserve until it's needed. Like as a last ditch option when Grimwood's enemies are closing in from all sides and it looks like the girls are doomed, Miss Grimwood activates a long-dormant artifact and the school sprouts giant chicken legs and runs off for someplace safe to hide. The implication could even be that the Grimwood school literally IS Baba Yaga's hut, with extensive expansions and remodelling done to turn it into the school as we see it today. The school being on the run for a period of time would be a decent excuse to set some stories in exotic locations, like a visit to Castle Dracula or Aztec ruins or Egypt. The school's "brain" is about as intelligent as an actual chicken so Miss Grimwood has to coax and cajole it to go where she wants and her control isn't always perfect, sometimes it will just get tired and decide to roost until it feels like moving again.


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On a different topic, here's the rough draft on the first location of interest in Covensend to lure the characters out past their campus and interact with the wider world. Feedback welcome.

ST. BARBARA ABBEY - Set atop a hilly crest on the outer edge of Covensend's "old quarter" and a short jaunt from the city's rougher downtown region, the Abbey is home to about a dozen nuns and a few friars and priests, and is connected to an adjoining girls’ school. The student body at St. Barbara’s is known to be a dumping ground for trouble-makers and orphans in need of strict moral guidance, and vacillate between prim, bitchy little robots while under the stern eye of the Mother Superior and wild, gang-like hooligans when outside of class. The Abbey proper is a cathedral-like series of buildings featuring several tall gothic towers dotted with grotesque gargoyle statues and a bat-infested belfry. By daylight it looks tranquil and happy if perhaps a little stuffy, at night in a thunderstorm it can look as terrifying as any haunted castle.

The most frequent visitors to they Abbey are:

-Sibella, who finds the gargoyle-littered towers terrifically romantic to perch and strike poses upon at night, Eavesdropping on the gossip of the schoolgirls also gives Sibella a chance to experience vicarious social thrills, like watching a live-action soap opera.

-Cadet Roper, who has a standing agreement with the abbot to procure fresh holy water and other sanctified implements for monster hunting,

-Cadet Iggy, who has several black market contacts among the criminal element among the student body. It's also a convenient place to seek sanctuary when his unscrupulous activities are about to catch up with him and he needs a third option when he can't hide out at either Calloway or Grimwood schools. The fact that the school has no shortage of cute teen girls doesn't hurt either, but Iggy knows very well that none of them would touch him with a ten foot pole so he mostly keeps his contact there professional and keeps his mouth shut.

The school's mother superior is Sister Dominique, a thin middle-aged woman who will become a full-on crone within fifteen years. Sister Dominique is a dark reflection of Col. Calloway in some respects; where Calloway is strict, Dominique is cruel. Where Calloway is mistrusting of Grimwood's ghouls, Dominique is a zealous anti-monster crusader. She is vaguely aware of and supports Calloway's mission, keeping him stocked with off-the-books specialty ammunition (The church excuses St. Barbara's explosives as "fireworks", the production of which helps fund the abbey's upkeep, as this falls under St. Barbara herself being the patron saint of explosions and divine retribution). Dominique frequently chastises Calloway for not keeping his cadets on a tighter leash, holding her own students as an example of how a school SHOULD be run. She is not ignorant of the criminal side to her students, but she would be loath to admit this aloud and as long as her girls continue to act properly while she is present Dominique won't be forced to. Naturally, this means that any of her girls that is sloppy enough to get caught breaking this facade is subject to harsh discipline.

There are two primary purposes for the Abbey beyond the basic worldbuilding of being a supplier of some of the anti-monster weaponry seen at Calloway;

1) As minor antagonists. The bullies among the students can harass the cadets or the ghouls either physically (Iggy, Morton, Phibes, Tanis, Winnie) or socially (eveyone else). While individual St. Barbara students might learn their lesson after suffering a mauling from Winnie, as a group these girls are always looking for trouble and are prone to popping up at exactly the wrong time when the protagonists don't have the luxury of putting them in their place. Sister Dominique also exists to put pressure on Col. Calloway, forcing him to follow harsher protocols with his students than he might have otherwise.

2) As a ready source of unsympathetic victims for other antagonists. Like any good horror film, if you want the audience to enjoy seeing a teenager getting killed or otherwise meet a Bad End, it's good to demonstrate that the victim was a bad egg and kinda deserved what they had coming to them. The girls at St. Barbara's can be dialed up or down in how criminal they appear as needed; from baseline innocent teen girl to unrepentant chain-smoking street thug who steals candy from little kids.



Gonna have to give some criticism on this. I could see this school working as like a one-time element or just something that pops up very infrequently, but not as much of a reoccurring location. Seems a bit like overkill when we already have the military school to breath down the finishing school's neck. I can see a cathedral being a reoccurring location, but the school feels much weaker, and I think it's mainly because I'm not all that behind the ghouls having human bullies, again at least not as a reoccurring element. As a one-off thing, like in an episode where the ghouls run into this group and proceed to get bullied sure, but I feel like humans would be much more easily scared away from ever bullying them again than say another ghoul bullying them would be. Bullies are already a hard element to write well in stories as is. Also, how the hell do humans manage to physically bully Winnie? Tanis I can see, and I could also see Sibella though you didn't list her, but I feel Winnie would be more fitting in the social part while like Sibella fits in both.

Speaking of Sibella, I'd kind of prefer Sibella just watching actually soap operas and mistaking this for how human life works rather than her eavesdropping on these students frequently. Not that I couldn't see her doing it at all though, just a though.

Maybe Dominique could be a decent semi-reoccurring antagonist, though as far as someone to pressure Calloway goes, I kind of just pictured whoever Calloway's superintendent is being the one to do that. I feel like they'd actually be able to get under Calloway's skin much easier than someone running a cathedral could.

Finally this.

>As a ready source of unsympathetic victims for other antagonists. Like any good horror film, if you want the audience to enjoy seeing a teenager getting killed or otherwise meet a Bad End, it's good to demonstrate that the victim was a bad egg and kinda deserved what they had coming to them.

I'd have to disagree here. A good horror film makes you care for the victim or at least helps you understand they are innocent so when they get killed it's genuinely horrifying. If you're rooting for the killer/monster to kill someone, then it's not really all that horrifying. I hate this type of shit for horror films, please don't resort to it. If you are still going to include it, at least don't make it happen that often.

I just don't see this being anywhere near as fruitful as the military school already is, which makes it feel nearly pointless depending on how often it's apart of the story. If you have your heart set on including it, I'd just suggest making it a very minor element. That's all I've got for now.



>I could see this school working as like a one-time element or just something that pops up very infrequently,

Yeah, that's about what my intention was for all of these locations out past the Grimwood campus. As I said in >>1008145 I'm expecting three out of four stories are able to be written entirely within the Grimwood and/or Calloway grounds. The rare times that the story ventures past that is further divided between what I'm hoping will be a good selection of a half dozen or so interesting locations scattered around Covensend.

> Also, how the hell do humans manage to physically bully Winnie?

Keep in mind I didn't say that they'd be successful at it, I'm not intending that these girls are regularly making the ghouls' lives hell. Just that Winnie (being physically small and depending on the circumstances of the plot, possibly in disguised as or temporarily transformed into a human girl) would appear to be a suitable target for the big girls looking to shove someone around. I'd expect Winnie to try a "Don't make me angry… you wouldn't like me when I'm angry…" before getting pushed too far and flipping out on them, leaving them traumatized and stuffed in a dumpster. I didn't list Sibella because she doesn't project that look of vulnerability in the same way; Sibella is confident and assured of her good looks, she'd have a fearless posture and stride that would put bullies off. You're right that bullies would probably have a better shot at taking Sibella on physically, but that doesn't even really matter… unprepared human girls are going to lose a fight against ANY monster girl.

But as far as the Grimwood students are concerned, just being IN a fight is already a loss. Even if Sibella effortlessly trounces a gang of hoodlums, that invites the much bigger problem of getting caught being "monstrous" outside of school grounds. Without a REALLY good excuse she'd be putting the entire Grimwood/Calloway treaty in jeopardy and risk bringing dedicated trained vampire hunters down on her and her family. And that's to say nothing of episode-specific complications that leave the protagonists especially vulnerable. As an illustrative example, take a look at the "My life as a teenage robot" episode 1x06b "The Great Unwashed" (my apologies if this isn't a show you watched). In that episode, our protagonist Jenny the superstrong invulnerable robot is menaced by The Muckraker, a villain who… is talented at getting things dirty. This is no contest and Jenny is never in any physical danger whatsoever. So no tension right? Except that Jenny has just sunk all her savings into an expensive makeover and she's on her way to a fancy party. So getting splattered with garbage is treated as a mortal peril.

This is what I mean that the protagonists don't necessarily have the luxury of just putting these bullies in their place by resorting to physical violence. I mean, when it's dramatically appropriate we can certainly offer some catharsis by seeing our favorite ghouls whup on them when the circumstances permit it, but when we need dramatic tension it's as simple as tilting the playing field so that the ghouls have to keep themselves in check or else lose something that they don't want to lose, such as their freedom or a friendship.


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>I'd have to disagree here. A good horror film makes you care for the victim

Okay, I was oversimplifying it in my previous post. You're not wrong, but you're only looking at a very narrow definition of "good horror film". A lot hinges on what sort of tone the film has and what reaction they are trying to get from the audience. Yes, a sympathetic protagonist that the audience likes and identifies with will help the audience feel terror when that character is threatened. Those characters more often than not are the ones that narrowly escape death, In the very dark horror films they might die by the end, but that hardcore feeling is not what I was really aiming for with Grimwood. This isn't "Se7en".

The tradition of enjoying the monster getting their victim is rooted in the "karmic justice" of EC comics and Twilight Zone era, but persists into the 80's slashers and beyond where having sex or doing drugs was practically a death sentence. When Captain Rhodes dies at the end of "Day of the Dead", it's no less horrific a death to see but you do get to enjoy bit of relief that the bastard had finally gotten what was coming to him.

But as I said in my previous post "The girls at St. Barbara's can be dialed up or down in how criminal they appear as needed". If a sympathetic victim is called for, there's plenty of nice girls at St. Barbara's as well. But if a bitch is needed so that the ghouls can dispense some karma in front of the camera and look cool doing it, then there's a precedent set for a pool of same-age characters to draw from that aren't the more heroic Calloway cadets. I'm not trying to imply that Grimwood is constantly interacting with and picking on the St. Barbara girls either, that's just this particular entry on the "map" that's getting a highlight here. There's lots of other people that could have a brush with the supernatural for good or bad.

Anyway, thanks for the critique and I hope I've clarified my ideas a bit better now. If you still disagree then that's fair, I'll keep it in mind among the various opinions that are voiced.




Well, like I said, it doesn't just have to be victims that are sympathetic. You can have characters we simply get the feeling didn't deserve what they got, like an innocent bystander just minding their own business. Just don't play the karma card too often.

I don't know, the idea still just sounds like a rather weak part of the story to me, but you did say it's a rough draft. Perhaps there's more room for improvement than I'm seeing, but right now all I can do is just suggest keeping it as minor as it may be seen fit. Maybe another anon will have some better suggestions.


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Hi Toonspew, my name is Nick Scratch and I represent Cartoon Network.

We like the look of your show and would like to authorise a pilot episode, but first lets talk who will animate this show.

The fine people working on Thundercats Roar and the new She-Ra cartoon have reported to have taken an interest on this show and would like to work on it in the near future?

Would you be willing to work with these people in order to make your show happen? Would you be willing to have the Ghouls redesigned by these fine fellows? They are my friends, so I know they are good.

Here, I'll leave this picture of me and the contract for you to mull over in your spare time.


Some madman actually made a fully animated and voiced Ghoul School short on Newgrounds. Check it out




Holy fucking shit, that ending.

Toonspew, rewrite this whole thing so they are an animated band.


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I'd sooner have my spooky friends remain pure and sweet in our imaginations than be tainted by your sour touch.

The day might not some tomorrow, maybe not the day after or even in the next ten years, but the perfect ghoul school reboot will come eventually.



I saw this a couple days ago on Youtube. It's nice to see the Ghouls get more attention, and I can excuse the animation because I'm pretty sure it was animated by one guy, but everything else isn't too great.

The writing, humor, and voice acting felt very awkward for the most part, and I'm not sure if it's because it's so short but the song didn't flow that well to me. But still, I liked some of the ideas and again like to see more of the ghouls, just needed to be executed better in my opinion.




The song started out really well but then kinda…started to sound a bit awkward.

I get the impression that Toonspew needs to get his name out there a bit more, so animators can contact and collaborate with him.


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He should get in touch with RatBoy Genius.

He has a PhD in music composition, and prior experience with the entertainment industry.

I think he'd be a good fit for the project.



Been learning to animate for a while, and I have definitely thought about doing a Ghoul School short like >>1012259 has.

As far as writing the short goes though, I'm not sure about collaborating with Toonspew or anyone for that matter. I'd probably be more interested in using my own take on the characters if I ever do this.


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As much as it hurts me to say so… I think I would. Firstly because it'd be an opportunity to be in a position of authority over some of these soyboys and blue-hairs that are currently ruining western animation. I'd use whatever executive muscle I could bring to bear to squash every progressive ideal they attempt to force into the show and hopefully stomp on their personal dreams a little in the process. And perhaps I'd be able to fire one or two of the worst offenders and hurt their ability to ruin other cartoons in the future. Doubtless Mr. Scratch's contract would ensure that the Ghoul Girls would get pretty screwed up and the project would please no one… but in my age I've come to see these failed revamps of shows as just painful phases that long running shows must go through from time to time. In the long run it's better to keep a property visible and known to the public consciousness than for it to be buried by more and more passing years until it's forgotten forever. Using Scooby Doo as an example, sometimes you have to endure a "Shaggy & Scooby Doo Get a Clue!" before you can have a "Mystery Inc." Believe me, watching the bastardization of the Powerpuff Girls and Thundercats is excruciating, but at least it proves that is CAN be done, these characters are franchises that can have different interpretations, not singular unchangeable entities. If they can be "updated" into something that awful, then they can also be updated into something better, at some point in the future. And so if Ghoul School need to have a shitty iteration before they can come back as something better, then I'd rank that slightly above letting them molder in a grave forever. At the very least if that's going to happen, I'd rather have myself or anyone in this thread involved in the project so that they can do what they can to minimize the damage.



The absolute madman!

As others said, damn nice just to see the girls getting attention. Not just a quick piece of fanart, but the dedication to stick with a project long enough to complete this much animation and recruit voice actors and everything takes serious passion, so the people behind this animation have my deep respect. There is of course a handful of things that could have been done better, sure, but they actually get a lot of things correct and where this animation is lacking is mostly in the budget and experience departments… if I was an animation exec like Mr. Scratch here, I'd be looking at this as a pretty decent student promo film that could be put in the hands of a more experienced studio crew to turn into something really good. There's a fair bit of ideas here that mirror my own and ideas that have sprung up organically in spooktober threads, which could be a case of "great minds think alike" and reaching the same conclusions from the material that the 1988 movie gave us to start from, or it could be that whoever made this was an Anon in a spooktober or two. The biggest clue that it's probably the latter is Phantasma making the distinction that she is a Phantom and not a Ghost, which is something I can claim credit for and I think it's a bit specific to show up in the script for this short just randomly. I'll see if I can't reach out to the creator through newgrounds and find out more.

Most of my issues with this is just that the whole thing feels rushed, which I guess is understandable because animation is hard work and if you can burn through the script in six minutes, why labor over extra time to stretch it out to ten? But unfortunately this ends up hurting the timing of the comedy and the characterization of the characters. There's no scene changes or character interplay, it's just setup-punchline-setup-punchline-setup-punchline at a pretty breakneck pace. And in a couple of places I think they missed the setup too, like Winnie pulling a gun on Tanis in the last few seconds comes out of nowhere. That would have been a funny thing to do if they'd taken a moment to establish that Winnie couldn't bare to look at Tanis without her bandages and threatened to take drastic action if she didn't put them back on, leading to a payoff when she later demonstrates just how overboard she's prepared to go.


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I was happy to see Phantasma breaking the fourth wall with a snare drum cymbal crash gag, And I was happy to see Sibella being the flirty one of the group and mixing together sexual lust with blood lust, but in both cases it was lacking a crucial element to make it really work properly. In Phantasma's case I think it's hurt by Sibella congratulating Phantasma on Elsa's pun, with another pun, with canned audience laugh-track playing at the same time. There's a lot of things trying to tell you that Elsa's line was funny when honestly I don't know if even Elsa meant it as a joke (since she's not throwing off sparks or anything and the candy hasn't shown any electrical properties at that point, since the taste-testing scene comes immediately AFTER, the only way her line could have a double meaning is if you make the stretch that candy made by a monster that is brought to life with lightning would have some sort of electric charge to them… that's a long way to stretch to make that connection for the sake of a pun). If we'd seen Elsa get a jolt from eating a candy BEFORE this conversation then her word choice would make more sense. As it is now the joke needs a "straight man" is what I'm saying, not EVERY character can be the goofball. In the span of a couple seconds we have Elsa, Phantasma AND Sibella all trying to make cheeseball puns.

When it comes to Sibella's lusts, I think what it is lacking is one or more of her friends working to hold Sibella back from devouring the boy she's taken with. Before that Sibella has one line where she moans out "you can't fight the URGES within!" which given that she's just been asked to babysit Tanis, implies more of a sexual interest in Tanis or something. I do understand what the script is trying to say, but only after pulling it apart and dissecting it line by line a bit, it needed to be more clear what Sibella was talking about there.

All in all its great fun to see the characters together again, even if the script needed better editing and more room to breathe. I get the feeling that they tried to throw in everything they could into the space that they had when IMO it would have been improved by having the fortitude to leave a few of the weaker jokes on the floor and using the space to better build up the ones that they kept.

The voice acting is a decent amateur attempt but it does serve to remind you of how much a difference a dedicated director and sound editor and all the other "behind the scenes" crew make on a professional grade cartoon. But it seems like they did the best they could be expected to with what are no doubt a very limited budget and manpower restrictions. One thing that does strike me is Elsa's voice though; it's evident that they started from the 1988 canon depiction and just went "like that, but… less downs syndrome". Which ends up sounding like a husky but otherwise normal human girl voice. This is why I personally went off in the German mad scientist angle, to give her something more distinct to set her apart from Sibella's throaty purr (which this short does well), Phanty's giggly squeaking (which this one had the right pitch but forgot the giggles). Tanis, Elsa and Winnie sound a bit too "normal" IMO, though to be fair Marilyn Schreffler's scratchy voice is pretty darn inimitable and any casting director would have to go through a LOT of auditions to find a woman capable of replacing her.

So that's my thoughts on this early Halloween treat, if the animator is in this thread I hope he takes the above in the spirit of helpful critique that they are intended and doesn't feel I'm dumping on him, since I think he's got the right ideas and everything they lack would have been fixed by having an experienced studio hand overseeing production to make sure the "big picture" flows at the right pace.


I did have room for a couple of musical numbers, but my rule was always that music had to make sense in-universe, it didn't just spring up out of the ground like a Phineas & Ferb episode. The best example is the musical duel with the banshee metal-head Siofra O'Brennan, but there were also episodes where they organize a school play and we include a musical number during that, and also just have the girls jamming out to their favorite songs on the radio during the "joy ride" episode as teenagers do.



>MLAATR needs to go through a CalArts phase before it can have a good reboot or continuation

This idea horrifies me.



>which is something I can claim credit for and I think it's a bit specific to show up in the script for this short just randomly.

Is it? Doesn't sound out of the ordinary for you both to come to the same conclusion, especially when I don't think Phanty was ever referred to as a ghost in the movie.

Not sure if you can take full credit for that.


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I don't like it either, but consider that MLAATR right now doesn't really have much wrong with it, except for ending before it could tie up a few character arcs. If you want a new show and they reply with "well what's wrong with rewatching the old show?" there's not a strong argument for why new episodes NEED to be made. But if some SJWs went and wrecked it first, then people tend to associate any failings of the franchise with the shitty iteration and there's more support for a new movie or something that will "bring the characters back to their roots" and create a "definitive, timeless version" or something to that effect.

And even THAT wouldn't be quite the same thing as the original series that you love, but hopefully it'll be a lot closer than a Current Year Calarts monster, smooth off a couple of the rough edges that the original legitimately did have, and capture some of the magic that the original had if the person in charge is a true fan and this isn't just a job that they can phone in their minimal effort on for a paycheck.


I think it is something I can claim credit on actually, though I can't entirely rule out a case of parallel evolution of ideas, but here's why this one seems a little TOO coincidental IMO;

I don't recall if Phantasma is ever directly called a ghost in the movie, but one of the early questions I had to answer repeatedly in the first few threads back in 2015 was "how did Phantasma die?" And we explored a few different ideas… maybe she was a suicide, maybe she was an aborted or stillborn fetus… but any of those struck a much darker tone than we were comfortable with for anything but a sadfic. And I also came to realize that a ghost in the traditional sense tends to be something of a one-trick pony: they have a particular story relating to how they died and the places and circumstances surrounding that one event are inescapable for them. Now for a single-serving story that's fine; Tim Burton's "The Corpse Bride" explores all the wedding story tropes cast through a spooky lens, and once that's exhausted Emily politely departs and the movie ends. Agatha Prenderghast in "Paranorman" was killed by an extreme sort of bullying so once Norman has broken through to her and delivered the film's anti-bullying message Agatha is at peace and the movie ends.

Phantasma needed to be stuck as a restless spirit for as long as the show might need her across many storylines, and without her being tied to a particular time or place or theme. She has musical talents yes, but that's more of an homage to the Phantom of the Opera as her forebear than a clue to some murder mystery that created her.

So in the end I invented the idea that "Phantom" is a distinct species of spirit from "Ghost", being that only the latter had a previous existence as a human being who had died. If you look up the definition of phantom in standard English the two terms are synonymous and used interchangeably. The only place they are different and distinct is in the Ghoul School reboot threads and it's because I created that distinction to solve a specific problem.

And then look at where it pops up in the animated short: a human calls Phantasma a ghost, and Phantasma corrects her to "Phantom", implying there is a difference but not explaining what it is. So it doesn't provide backstory or inform a later part of the plot, it's not a setup or a punchline to a joke, it's just there because the animator thought it was important to the character for some reason. And it is important, but only in the context of a larger reboot, it's not important within the span of this animated short. Phantasma could have left the human uncorrected and nothing about the rest of the short would have changed.

While we're on the topic, Tanis being royalty is also one of mine. The original movie never refers to her as a princess or calls her dad a Pharaoh or anything, and if we're to assume that the daddy Mummy is Kharis from Universal then she's decidedly NOT royalty, unless he got a lot further with Princess Ananka before being discovered and mummified than the Universal movies let on.

But anyway, I'm not trying to claim copyright or something and I'm thrilled that any of my ideas might have become "fanon". I was just pointing that out as a likely evidence that whoever made the flash animation had probably picked up some inspiration from the Spooktober threads. And if that's the case, then again I'm super pleased that something I put on the internet led towards something like this being created.



I think you might be thinking too hard on this. I took that bit as just a silly joke because traditionally ghosts and phantoms are the same exact thing, the joke being that Phanty is acting like there is a difference. I don't think they put much more thought into the joke outside of that.

Also, many people have come to the conclusion of Tanis being royalty.


Its been a while, anything new with GS?



It's dead. He went on to make a Boo Brothers remake instead.



cute monster girls





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Always happy to see different sorts of progress being made. Toonspew I admire your dedication. I don't know if you've mentioned it before in other threads, but now that you've openly stated your hatred towards SJWs and progressivism (like any rational human being), any fear of that biting you in the ass later down the road? And question two, how would you compare your iteration of Phantasma to Herny's(PBUH)? I ask this because I assume a lot of anons may have taken his version of her to heart and might expect yours to be similar.


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>be me

>hear about Ghoul School from people recalling their childhoods when I clicked on Plague's art

>"eh fuck I'll watch it"

>as expected of its age, it's very cheesy and the only redeemable factor it really has is the cute monster girls and their creative designs

>though little kid me probably would've loved the shit out of it while refusing to admit that it was because of the girls because of course liking girls is gay

>little kid me actually had the opportunity to ask about it at a babysitter's house (they had a VHS tape of it) but I was too scared over the potential embarrassment over wanting to watch something that was "girly", and also fuck my siblings I wanted to watch a movie about monster girls and I'm pretty sure they secretly did too

>look up some fanfics about it

>find out about QuestGuy

>he does some pretty neat stuff

>always had a thing for ghost girls which was probably because of that one "Night of the Werehog" short I watched when I was still a youngling, and yeah she's still cute fuck you

>gets hooked on PhantyQuest because of course

>read the archived threads

>it's not fini– GOD DAMN JESUS FUCKK



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I was also really into it, I talked to Toonspew last year about it via email. He was surprised anyone still had interest in it, but he made a new thread for it. Unfortunately only 2-3 anons (including me) participated so it died. It probably would have died months earlier if people didn't bump it. Sucks.



I think they were talking about the other quests. Toonspew and QuestGuy are two different people.



Who’s QuestGuy?


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Pardon me I have autism



I thought the science that he made for the ghosts was pretty interesting, even if it was rather vague. It really helped the ghosts make more sense in the world other than that they "just work". Though with the amount of bad rolls that all those Anons had during the last quest, I guess PhantyAnon was better off dead lol wait shit he already is

A simple Pastebin would be fine too. I personally just want a conclusion to PhantyAnon's story.



A dude that made some quests based off the ghouls from Ghoul School.



butt shakes


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Here is my attempt at coloring Sibella. I did this entirely on my tablet so you better be fucking grateful.

Probably will do Tanis later.


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Some Sibella fusions for everyone.


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Only one of them has a cleavage, yet you managed to give all three fusions the big tiddie treatment.


While I believe that the drawings are good from an objective standpoint (lighting, poses, etc), I think the faces need a bit of tweaking. They all look like they share the same face with the exception of some edits to the color and hairstyle. Their general proportions look very similar as well. I know that they're all transitioning from different art styles, but I feel that you still could've done better in making them look more unique from each other.

I think Wilhella looks pretty good though. I like what you've done with her hair.



Oh, I didnt draw these, I just found them.



oh okay lol



>oh okay lol

I think you’re on the wrong website.



I'm pretty sure I'm still on 8chan. I didn't mean for that post to come off as sarcastic if that's how you interpreted it. Sorry if that was the case.



> I didn't mean for that post to come off as sarcastic if that's how you interpreted it. Sorry if that was the case.

Not the same Anon, but that isn't it. Sarcasm is a fundamental part of imageboards what you did was spout out jargon you'd typically find on tumblr/ reddit. And considering you're completely oblivious to this only reinforces the other Anons point. Either lurk more or else people are just going to continue to point out you're a newfag or kill yourself.

Sage for off topic.


Are there any noteworthy female mummies to fuse Tanis with?



All I can think of is that one mummy lady from O.K K.O, but her design's pretty generic (though cute) so I don't think she would really add much fusion-wise.



She basically just looks like an adult Tanis, right down to having a pink bow on her head.



There's the girl from mummies alive, but I'm not sure if I consider it notable enough.



Who was that one from Xombie?


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Given the rarity of being a desiccated corpse wrapped in bandages as a character trait, I'd say she's just fine.

Also, not strictly /co/ but, Tiya from Medievil 2 and High Queen Khalida of Khemri There was also that one that Gotrek tried to get Felix to bone, but good luck finding any illustrations


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Nephtys! That's it, the Russian mummy with the scythe and the pet raptor.


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I'm fearful of Toonspew's reputation and the show's well being if this project ever gets off the ground.

I mean I'm pretty sure we all know by now that the internet is a very unforgiving place, with Twitter being the prime example of this. It always goes like this: some butthurt faggot finds some dirt on someone from some old-ass tweets that they did like 13 years ago, publishes the findings to the internet, and then sends the Internet Hate Mob™ to yell at their employers until the mob's target loses their job.

I feel that if Toonspew's Ghoul School reboot ever gets published in some form, much of the same will happen here. They'll find out that this new cartoon/comic/whatever was pitched by some dude named Toonspew, and that he did some lewd stuff back then. And with Twitter being the politically-correct shithole that it is, they'll spread this narrative that there's this dude that made a reboot of some cheesy Scooby-Doo cartoon that also wrote some fiction of the project's characters that "objectified women" and "highlighted the misogyny of men in modern culture", as well as that he commissioned lewd artwork of said underage women (doesn't matter if they are in that canon or not, they would still push that narrative anyway) and that he's totally a pedophile for doing so.

I think you get my point here. Twitter has time and time again proven that they are just batshit crazy, so them pulling off some crazy stunt like this doesn't sound all that farfetched.

now can some anon please debunk my post as pessimistic trash or something because I'm stressed enough as it is



Show? I thought this was gonna be a webcomic, and I think that you’re being overly pessimistic, unless Toonspew had a social media or Deviantart account they’re not gonna track him, they’re too thin skinned to bother checking here.


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That was the tightest shit back in the day. At some point I need to download the whole series just in case.

I wonder how it has aged?



Badly. The creator sold out and became an obnoxious retard.




What does this have to do with the thread?



That’s disappointing but I can’t say I’m really surprised.



Proof or GTFO.


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>I thought this was gonna be a webcomic

Go back and read his posts, the plan has been to make a show out of it for years.



I know what he's talking about

the dude retconned some shit like givign the girl a stuffed animal that explodes, it became retarded


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As the Anon who posted >>1020971 I have the same worry. I am also somewhat pessimistic as you can see but hope lies in one of the following:

1.) Because the comic book industry has learned diversity doesn't sell because the same people who demand all the SJW shit don't actually read comics, they might soon start understanding that they shouldn't hold what people do in their free time against them. I honestly expect some legislation in the future regarding this type of thing.

But this is more likely,

2.) If Toonspew does manage to make it, the people he'd be signed up on would know of all of this (I honestly don't know how they couldn't) and would make it clear that it wouldn't be held against him.



>Because the comic book industry has learned diversity doesn't sell

When did that happen? Bear in mind, dear guest from the 23rd century, that it is still 2018.




Point being they KNOW forced diversity doesn't sell well, however they aren't going to trash all their new heroes.



What does diversity have to do witj this though?


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I was gonna say, we're getting a bit off topic.

But the flow chart of how we got here goes:

>>1022206 was worried about Toonspew getting potentially fucked in the future because of his roots in 8chan, I then proceeded to share this sentiment (>>1022322). I then told him my hopes in >>1022322. I made the connection between forced diversity and holding internet history against an individual as both SJW tactics (of course you can bring up examples other political factions doing this but is predominantly SJW) and since the relevant industry has found that the former trait is failing then perhaps they will learn to not appease those who commit the ladder. Looking back on it, perhaps it was a bit of a stretch. Moving on, >>1022333 asked me why I'm saying the comic book industry has recognized the failure of diversity, I proceeded to link him to an article in >>1022338 where the Vice President of Sales in Marvel noticed that the new comics aren't selling well because of the forced diversity. And now we are at this post.

Anyways, this post is probably way longer than it needed to be. I'll shut the fuck up about the politics for now until hopefully Toonspew responds to me and the other anon and it becomes thread relevant again.



if you're going to shit up the thread with "funny jew maymay" posts, at least post the actual image instead of copying the post id like the lazy bastard you are




J-just wanted to bring attention to a GET, pls no bully.



That was dumb but forgivable (unlike giving Zoe those pigtails) but what made James Faar fall from grace is that just like seemingly everyone else in this godforsaken age he became a hardcore leftist.


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>just like seemingly everyone else in this godforsaken age

fuck man that statement hurts a lot more than it should. imagine watching what was once your childhood inspiration fall into the realm of insanity and delusion, all so you can be forced to watch the same damn thing on repeat over and over and over again

it hurts. it makes me feel like the bad guy simply because i'm not following with the rest of the crowd



This is why you don’t have a childhood hero, you can never be disappointed if they end up falling.


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I guess you could say he fell Faar from grace


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Who would win at a pun-off, Sibella or the god of mischief himself Carlos?


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>til BestGirlQuest's continuation is now a possibility

Late to the party I know, but I just learned that QuestGuy is back at it again with some spooky fight club thing. Here's the link for those that may be interested: http://boards.4chan.org/qst/thread/2893260 yeah I know it's from 4cuck but I honestly don't give two shits at this point I'm just glad he's back


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