No.2036[Last 50 Posts]
The CoLC is active once more! All that wish to experience the joys of Luna, look no further than our great alliance!
Proudly hosting the *first* bakery, Vodka production facility, and bar in the game since reset!
Members are given link access to our public efficiency spreadsheet, so you'll know how much of anything to build~
All Solar line governments banned in the CoLC. All Solar Vassals in the game shall be subject to ridicule at minimum. CoLC is protected by advanced REDACTED systems for optimized defensive operations. Praise Luna.
No.2037
>>2036This recruitment post has my (and Luna's) blessing! All are welcome in the clients. Even if you were once a Vassal, you can repent!
No.2038
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>>2036Yes come everyone and join a legacy of failure, with incompetent leadership who'll lie to and endanger you at every turn!
What could possibly go wrong!?
No.2039
>>2036>*first* bakeryLies and slander. How dare you sully my good name by trying to claim what isn't yours.
I demand you apologize for this injustice and pay me 6 cupcakes in reparations.
No.2040
>>2039What time was your bakery made, Loli? Mine was at 2015-04-11 14:25:39, according to my reports ;)
>>2038Ohai, trollanonLyra, how are you this fine day? I have no idea WHAT you're talking about~ We're more powerful than you now. Come, there's been a reset.
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>>2040>immediatly upon thinking their powerful they begin trying to intimidate othersSo back to your old tricks huh? Because they worked so well last time around
No.2042
>>2040No one man should have all this powah
No.2043
>>>2038
>lie to and endanger you at every turn!
What? That was Sir Scarf and his ilk, wasn't tCoLC mostly good bystanders that got duped into joining in on a bad war?
No.2044
No.2045
No.2046
>>2040>>2042
>Same tickWe still have the first bar, and the first Vodka production facility though~
No.2047
>>2043That may be true for most of the original CoLC but was it not their leader who brought them into that damnable conflict? And take a look at who makes up their membership now! These are not the peace loving moonfolk of old, but instead vile murderers and liars in in sheeps clothing, their alliance is Fota and Dark Vessel is a puppet of their deceit and manipulation!
No.2048
>>2047
>using same image twiceFail.
No.2051
First oil combuster!
You spent 10 Copper.
You spent 20 Machinery Parts.
You gained 1 Oil Combustion Facility.
You paid 250,000 bits.
Build Oil Combustion Facility completed successfully. 2015-04-12 00:20:00
No.2052
Changing your gov type to Solar Vassal is a declaration of war against this alliance
So what's that? Less than 24 hours into the new planet, and you're making the first threat in the game?
Lolipop and Bugfucker are right over there, and you're the first ones to make military declarations?
It'll be three more weeks before anyone is out of noob protection, and The Coalition is first in the pack to start threatening other people.
No.2053
>>2052Hey, it doesn't say that diplomacy won't be attempted. And, there is NO mechanical difference between Client and Vassal, so choosing Vassal *is* a very definite RP choice.
Also, a clear, early warning is far superior to suddenly demanding someone drop the govtype they spent 8000 oil on just because they didn't know DV felt strongly about it.
Also, this has kind of always been DV's thing.How do you get that red text? No.2054
>>2053>How do you get that red text?Magic
Read The Fine Manual
>Hey, it doesn't say that diplomacy won't be attempted. It does say that ya'lls ready to declare war on people because they like sunbutt over moonbutt.
We're still in the
rub two sticks together for warmth phase of the game, and you're declaring this kind of thing over what's often a decision of necessity and access.
No.2055
>>2054You do have a point. Honestly, it is a bit premature.
That said, you still need 8000 oil ON TOP OF a tier 2 government type to go Vassal. That's not going to be even slightly manageable for a long time. Poverty isn't an excuse, m8. No.2056
>>2042Sweet Luna, it's like you're a few minutes ahead of me in all things
No.2057
>>2054Pffft, Clients have always been about that. Other than that one little issue, we're quite peace-loving. We only went into that war because we had an alliance with FotA, and I like to honor my commitments. T'was no choice. But yeah, when the time comes, diplomacy comes first.
>>2045Nice, replying to your own comment. Good to know that reset didn't wipe the trollery
>>2041>Not noticing the thinly veiled 'Peaceplz?' message of that post, which admittedly may have been aggressive. It was stating that you no longer have the upper hand. No.2059
>>2057Your proof? You can't make these kind of claims without it.
No.2060
>>2059All anons are equal, therefore anon replying to anon is replying to oneself. Tripcode, name, or you're the same individual.
No.2062
I really should look into that bakery thing, it seems like a pretty good idea.
No.2063
>>2062Are video arcades still shit?
No.2068
>>2063Yes, but factorys are worse.
No.2071
>>2063You did tweak the price down slightly enough to be competitive in specific resource types.
Also I'm prone to doing stupid things to see if they'll work.
No.2093
Now proudly hosting the *first* lost nation!
No.2100
>Build Advanced Factory completed successfully. 2015-04-13 18:01:12
>Pic related
No.2101
>>2099
Loli has built an Adv Fac way before you, you fucking idiot.
No.2102
>>2101You still don't have one :P
No.2103
>>2101Like anybody gives a fuck. Lel!
No.2104
>>2101>pic relatedThe post I was referring to, since this incestual son of a Taiwanese street whore deleted it.
No.2105
>>2101Quite aggressive, my friend. So tell me, booty bothered bro: Where did he say he did it first? He's just announcing to his competition that he isn't far behind. Can't he enjoy his victory, (however small it may seem to you) with a celebratory memepost in his own alliance thread without you showing everyone how rectum-ravaged it makes you feel?
Keep being mad, my friend. Your tears are our lube.
No.2106
>>2104…It's the same exact post, with an ever so slightly different *filename*.
*FILENAME*.
Somepony is jelly~ No.2107
>>2104>>2105Yep, that in fact is a butthurt.
No.2108
>>2105The fact that he directly addressed Loli in the image name indicates that he's not just 'announcing to his competition that he isn't far behind'. He assumed he was the first one to build an Adv Fac, wanted to brag about it and realized his mistake only after posting his image.
You could have figured that out if your IQ wouldn't be equal to the size of your disease-ridden penis.
No.2109
>>2108So his monopoly was, what, how many ticks? One? Three?
No.2110
>>2107This isn't a race, you know.
And even if it were, the people who have won the first round have taken the lead again.
No.2111
>>2108You're assuming quite a few things you have no proof for. Knowing Scarf's old disagreements with you, I think he might have known you'd show up and decided to flame you a bit. You're just that predictable these days.
The beautiful thing here is that none of us can prove their theory, but only I feel calm about the whole thing, while you pull your hair out and lose your cool trying to find a fresher and cooler insult to throw at those that disagree with you.
Never change, sugartits.
No.2112
>>2109Well, these two ticks seem to matter a lot for you. Otherwise you wouldn't have posted >>2099 and
>>2100 No.2113
>>2108Why do you think he deleted the post? He likely realized that he wasn't the first to make an Adv. factory and corrected his mistake.
No.2114
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>>2111>trying to find a fresher and cooler insult Actually, I have found an old list on my PC and now I'm trying to get some of these insults posted because there's nothing going on on this board.
No.2115
>>2110
>Loli>Won first round….nnnnnnno, that was the Guild.
And you, Myra, are behind.
Unless you're now publicly acknowledging a certain connection to Loli…?
>>2114
>Nothing going on on this boardyet
>Takes a screenshot of a post that was up for literally FIVE MINUTES[STALKING INTENSIFIES]
No.2116
>>2115Uh, m8, I think that as long as you don't leave the thread, the post will still show up even if it's deleted, so…
No.2117
>>2116You sure?
Either way, that might extend the possible time from 5 minutes to… 15 minutes? At most?
No.2118
>>2117I'm pretty sure it's
as long as you don't leave the thread No.2119
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>>2115>….nnnnnnno, that was the Guild.You'll find that the Guild has some new members.
>And you, Myra, are behind.Of course I am. Originally I didn't want to start again at all. I'm just here because I was interested to see how the game would turn out after the reset and to help my allies from the Cauldron a little in the early phase of the game.
Oh, and to post random stuff on the board and see how people would react. I was hoping for some creative insults, but 'hurrdurr butthurt' is at least something, I guess.
>Unless you're now publicly acknowledging a certain connection to Loli…?I'm sure there are lots of people who want to have "a certain connection" with Loli… :3
>[STALKING INTENSIFIES]I was just visiting the board before going to bed. Little did I know that there was some potential to cause trouble. Besides, what
>>2116 said.
No.2120
Everyone calm your nips. And rub some soothing aloe vera gel on them.
No.2121
>>2118Timestamp comparison between screenshot and the post itself show 11 minutes discrepancy.
11 minutes.
>>2119So, you were going to bed, and just HAPPENED to see and screenshot the post RIGHT THEN? You had to have taken the screenshot within 11 minutes of it being posted (timestamps from the post and your own reply), that's my point. Coincidence?
Okay, I'll grant this *is* the time you generally go to bed. Still, 11 minutes timeframe? I'm officially calling shenanigans. They're called. Deal with it. No.2122
>>2105>Keep being mad, my friend. Your tears are our lube.There's not a lot of tear worthy action going on here. You might have to go in raw dude.
>>2106>with an ever so slightly different *filename*.It's almost like filenames are important on image boards or something. -.-
>>2107>Yep, that in fact is a butthurt.Responding to your own posts is gauche.
>>2109>So his monopoly was, what, how many ticks?You know we're not 3 days into the game yet, right? Monopolies and 'Market Control' apply in units of 10-20.
>>2110>the people who have won the first round have taken the lead again.>>2115>….nnnnnnno, that was the Guild.Do you know how the LoliBug war ended? They both ran off and sepuku'd together after Dream capitulated to AMEP in the last days.
They won the war.
Yeah, I said it, and I'll say it again.
Dreamsweet folded and FFA defense was planning for a long attrition war. The decentralized state and the hard work of people like Flag, Leafy, Cloud, CSNE, Fluttershi, and the rest of the FFA defense brigade were the only reason losses weren't massive.
We were part of a war where we were on defense 90% of the time, and offense was a purely secondary spite based reaction during clean up.
So no, the difference is that Guild didn't know how to stop, and you kept pulling people back into it, making everything worse.
>>2113>Why do you think he deleted the post?To change the file name so as not to offend Loli.
At least that's what I assume.
>>2115>Unless you're now publicly acknowledging a certain connection to Loli…?Myra constantly states a connection to Bug, why does any of that surprise you?
>>2117>You sure?Yes
>>2120>Everyone calm your nips. These chucklefucks and their idea of a non aggression pact only creates more aggression.>>2121> I'm officially calling shenanigans. They're called. I name you forever: You are the Destroyer of Worlds! No.2125
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No.2126
>>2104Decided I'd catch up on the threads and…dawww isn't that cute, The little insignificant Prze thinks he's people.
Pick up your game man, you're playing with the big boys now~ No.2127
Oh and to avoid any more contention…and…well embarrassment for the opposing team
No.2128
>>2125Your masterfully crafted dick painting does trump one 7 word sentence from my post.
You know, except for all the other stuff, I now know you can at least run Chrome and Firefox at the same time.
Or photoshop. Ctrl+C & Ctrl+V = Win.
No.2129
>>2122You forgot the real reason we won, we left to have loads of kinky sex~
No.2130
>>2129Hey, who says you get to be on top?
Bend over No.2131
No.2134
>>2127What's your power level then, eh Loli?
Three combusters here No.2138
>>21343 whole combusters?
Well I'm impressed
Maybe with all that energy you're making you'll
turn on your Advanced Factory No.2140
We're out to get you, Scarf! ALL OF US!
No.2141
>>21383 extra parts > 30k bits
But I'll grant, not by much No.2142
>>2140Awwww, did you make a .gif just for me?
I'm flattered that I warrant such attention No.2143
>>2142>I warrant such attentionOf course you do.
You're the only antagonist who's left and we love to make fun of you because we always get a reaction.
No.2144
>>2143>Scarf>Anagonist>BugloliMM ingameU SRS? I'd bet even THEY admit they're the antagonists of clop. Loveable ones, but antagonists all the same~
No.2145
>>2144Antagonist? How hurtful, I've always thought myself a loveable rogue~
No.2146
>>2144>U SRS?Yeah, umm, if you've noticed yet, Loli's really just swished around and outside of a few sex jokes and some general posturing hasn't actually started looking for zebras to get shive'd for steppin up.
Merchant is right over there plotting a giant bank scam, and no one is trying to interfere with him, because it's probably a good idea as things go.
Market manipulation abound unchecked, and yet Scarf continues his quixotic crusade, tilting at windmills.
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>>2146>hasn't actually started looking for zebras to get shive'd for steppin up.I'm
going to shive Scarf, but for other reasons
No.2148
>>2147>Attacking CoLCAwww, Loli, here I thought we could be friends~! D=
No.2149
>>2148>Implying I need to attackI'll just make myself a Solar Vassal and bring all the rage of an entire alliance of
worst princess fags down upon me.
Then proceed to rape ya'll shit with muh ninja skills. No.2150
>>2149>muh ninja skillsI patched those a while ago, remember?
No.2151
>>2148>>2147>>2149>Awww, Loli, here I thought we could be friends~! D=Sigh, you weren't the only one hoping for a peaceful post-reset clop…
Is in not mean to be?
No.2153
>>2151People complained about Compounds being a hugbox. Now people complain about >CLOP not being one.
No.2155
>>2153Compounds is a hugbox because should anything actually go down, it'll immediately escalate to the alliance level. Personal grudges can't dictate your actions, because the whole thing will just blow up.
Also attacking hurts you more than the target. If you want to start some shit, feel free to take the first swing.
>>2147>I'm going to shive Scarf, but for other reasonsWhich in this transaction, does not put you in the antagonistic role.
No.2156
>>2155Now, who *ever* said anything about attacking Loli? Our alliance description says that anyone going Solar Vassal, whoever they are, has declared war *on us*.
Not the other way around.Loli is the one that *specifically* announced an attack on me, personally. And he is the only one since reset to have made such a direct announcement~
I'm the target of the first *direct* declaration of war~
>Feels special No.2159
>>2157
Calling someone's bluff isn't scummy.
No.2161
>>2157
Considering something a declaration of war is not the same as declaring war on them. It's definitely not the same as attacking them. That's like when real life countries say that helping a terrorist state is considered an act of terrorism.
Yes, it's stupid, it's bullshit. But it's not in the same vein as being aggressive. Sort of the opposite instead. It's like saying that they'll be wary of anyone that chooses to be a vassal, when you get the same benefits from being a Client.
Please, if you feel like slandering someone else, use well-thought arguments. You know, things worth reading, instead of just whatever goes through your head seconds before hitting the reply button. Not enjoyable otherwise.
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No.2163
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>>2156A declaration of war? Don't tease yours silly it would just be pest control, you really shouldn't have offended my Loli, he's so temperamental~
No.2164
Except in this case you're kind if being the oppressive group by banning a type of government for your own beliefs/rp. A war is done by attacking. So how does declaring a war on them not involve attacking them first?
Just because you say that doesn't mean its true. You are still outright banning a goverment type and attacking people who disagree or want said government type because of whatever reasons. You are the aggressor here because you are the one attacking, you established quite clearly to us that you will attack someone if they GI solar if they don't change. Second he never declared war. He only stated that he was taking said government type because he knew you would attack him. Scummy as it is, he never announced an attack against you until you attack him first. So no. You are declaring war because someone refuses to follow your rules which aren't even established as the status quo because no one even has military power yet.
Typo fixes because I can't grammar
>>2161Alright then what about this. Does this make it clear enough what they will do. Perhaps I should have worded my argument butter but the fact remains they will attack you if you do not change to what they want.
No.2165
>>2162Its called a flood detecter. I couldn't post.
No.2166
>>2164I heard you were negotiating. Maybe he was overshooting so that you'd lower the severity of the protocol to something that was still acceptable to them. I don't think they can be stupid enough to actually think that they can declare war on anyone when they already have so many enemies.
>>2165If you only wanted to fix grammar, I recommend posting the fixed version before erasing the one before. Apparently, autism runs high when dealing with erased posts.
No.2167
>>2161> Sort of the opposite instead. It's like saying that they'll be wary of anyone that chooses to be a vassal,Except what they said was:
>>2052>Changing your gov type to Solar Vassal is a declaration of war against this allianceIt's why we (FC) couldn't even get them to agree to a non-aggression pact.
The sticking point was that we, an unrelated alliance, were not allowed to have our members support the Solar Government Types, because this bunch of faggots like Moonbutt so much they want complete control of their allies operations or they will see them as 'The Enemy'.
>>2166> Maybe he was overshooting so that you'd lower the severity of the protocol to something that was still acceptable to them.Overshooting what? FC just wanted to agree that we weren't going to attack each other, and they came in with the list of requirements.
NAP in the form of 'Bro don't attack us', not even requiring economic stimulus packages or anything. Then we came up with our own silly list of requirements, trying to get them to tone down theirs.
Which broke down the peace process.
The only think I can take from it is that they came to the table looking for an excuse to fight, and a list of demands that put them in the advantage at every turn.
No.2168
>>2167Again, I doubt they are actually stupid enough to wish for more enemies than they already have. I would feel sorry for them if that was the case.
Yes, they care too much about stupid stuff like the name of one of the superpower factions, while it does not affect anyone involved in any way whatsoever to choose one over the other. Yet, the same goes for you.
>and a list of demands that put them in the advantage at every turn.What sort of advantage is asking for people to choose client over vassal, when you lose nothing by doing that? How would this put their economic power over yours?
Are you sure the one that is looking for an excuse to fight is not you? No.2169
>>2168>Are you sure the one that is looking for an excuse to fight is not you?Yes. I normally start picking out challenges by asking for non-aggression pacts that request nothing more than a handshake from the other side.
Clearly I'm a warmonger who's focused entirely on crushing my opponent with no signs of mercy, while supping on the lamentations of their womenfolk.
Rape the horses and ride off on their women on all that. Surely I'm the greatest warmonger of all time.
No.2170
>>2166>I heard you were negotiating. We were
>Maybe he was overshooting so that you'd lower the severity of the protocol to something that was still acceptable to them. I don't think they can be stupid enough to actually think that they can declare war on anyone when they already have so many enemies.No they refused to budge and tried everything from imposing other lucrative alterations like maintaing 500 sat with Luna if you or Solar to outright trying to bribe me for Compounds, pic related.
>If you only wanted to fix grammar, I recommend posting the fixed version before erasing the one before. Apparently, autism runs high when dealing with erased posts.Will keep in mind
>>2168
>Again, I doubt they are actually stupid enough to wish for more enemies than they already have. I would feel sorry for them if that was the case.Well start feeling bad.
>Yes, they care too much about stupid stuff like the name of one of the superpower factions, while it does not affect anyone involved in any way whatsoever to choose one over the other. Yet, the same goes for you.Except we don't. What we do care about is allowing our alliance to choose what goverment they want to be and allow them to enact it. I'm not going to cave in and let them control my alliance for a NAP that they clearly don't value since they would let rp be more important.
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>>2168Swear to god, this isn't me.
>>2164Thanks for posting this, I would have done it myself if any of it had been in question. As it clearly states, we'd not only attempt diplomacy, but also offer to pay for the change to the exact same government type ON OUR OWN DIME.
This costs you NOTHING. Loses you NOTHING. Changes NOTHING. You still have *EVERY* right to have *ANY* government advantage at all!
Furthermore, we still *never* said that we couldn't have an NAP at all unless they gave into our
lack of demands. We'd offered that there would instead be the mutual option to dissolve the NAP at any time, as long as both parties waited an agreed-upon interval before sending any forces whatsoever.
>>2170
>control your allianceAs I said, there is *NO* difference between SV and LC. No other government type is in question. And there wouldn't even be any cost associated with compliance; we'd pay for 100% of the price of going Client! NOTHING about this controls your alliance in any way!
>NAP that they clearly don't valueSomeone that doesn't value an NAP either A. doesn't negotiate on the point *at all*, B. walks away from the table over something that doesn't cost them anything at all, or C. makes promises, then breaks them.
Does 'C' Sound familiar?Pic related No.2172
>>2169
>Yes. I normally start picking out challenges by asking for non-aggression pacts that request nothing more than a handshake from the other side.That's exactly how Myra declares war. Your sarcasm is the *literal* truth.
No.2173
>>2171>>2172>"Oh no people are calling us on our bullshit! I know I'll throw up the old Myra stuff to try and distract them while I try to cover up!"Typical
No.2174
>>2171
>Swear to god, this isn't me.If you're so insistent as to swear, why not prove it instead?
>Thanks for posting this, I would have done it myself if any of it had been in question. As it clearly states, we'd not only attempt diplomacy, but also offer to pay for the change to the exact same government type ON OUR OWN DIME.Except you are still bullying people to follow your preordained rules and will attack them if they refuse.
>This costs you NOTHING. Loses you NOTHING. Changes NOTHING. You still have *EVERY* right to have *ANY* government advantage at all!It isn't about the advantages. Its about you and your alliance throwing around threats to anyone who does something you don't like. It isn't about advantages or any of that. It's like me threatening to go to war with anyone who avatarfags as Lyra or says a word I don't like. The fact is your posing your own ideas via rp on how other people should and shouldn't play the game.
>Furthermore, we still *never* said that we couldn't have an NAP at all unless they gave into our lack of demands. We'd offered that there would instead be the mutual option to dissolve the NAP at any time, as long as both parties waited an agreed-upon interval before sending any forces whatsoever.Its a pointless NAP then because you're imposing regulations that are uneeded. We are agreeing to not attack each other. That's it. That is the point of a NAP, not to follow your one view on how to play the game or your view on flavoring.
>As I said, there is *NO* difference between SV and LC. No other government type is in question. And there wouldn't even be any cost associated with compliance; we'd pay for 100% of the price of going Client! NOTHING about this controls your alliance in any way!Refer to above post. I don't care about the benefits. I care about you policing my alliance in what it can and can't have.
>Someone that doesn't value an NAP either A. doesn't negotiate on the point *at all*, We did but you refused to budge, or at least DV did.
B. walks away from the table over something that doesn't cost them anything at all
It might not cost anything tangible but its the principle.
>C. makes promises, then breaks them. Does 'C' Sound familiar?Myra has nothing to do with this argument.Try again.
No.2175
>>2172Once again, this isn't about Myra. Stop attacking people's characters and stay on point.
No.2177
>>2171> there is *NO* difference between SV and LC.There is one difference.
>This costs you NOTHING. Loses you NOTHING. Changes NOTHING.Free will.
It costs the one thing that's any real universal value.
Why not sign the thing in blood?
No.2178
>>2174
>If you're so insistent, why not prove it….How the fuck do I prove that? Also, I'm not insistent about it; I was actually considering deleting my post to remove the pointless sentence. w/e tho, I really don't have enough fucks to justify spending any on something that trivial.
>It's like threatening war with anyone who avatarfags as Lyra or says a word I don't like………..
u wot m8
>>2164
>he never declared warRefer to:
>>2147
>I'm going to shive Scarf, but for other reasons>going to shive Scarf>going to No.2179
>>2167
>not allowed to have members support the solar government typesFalse. Only solar vassals were in question, not repression, authoritarianism or oppression. We're cool with those, go nuts on the solar line.
No idea why you WOULD, but the option is unrestricted. No.2180
>>2179>False. Only solar vassals were in question.Which should have never been in question at all for a non aggression pact.
A non-aggression pact or neutrality pact is a national treaty between two or more states/countries where the signatories promise not to engage in military action against each other.It has been found that major powers are more likely to start military conflicts against their partners in non-aggression pacts than against states that do not have any sort of alliance with them.You guys approached us. You came up, said 'Hey, want a non-aggression pact' to Myra.
Myra handed it off to the current leader of The Finite Cauldron to discuss it with your leaders in good faith.
And in good faith you declared that your RP bullshit trumped favoring peace.
Multiple times.
The most recent offer we received altered the wording just enough so that you didn't have to say why you didn't feel the need for peace any more, but it'll still probably be the vassal thing.
I like how you picked out a line I made intentionally over exaggerating the point to declare the entire statement false.
You are
The Destroyer of Worlds.
The Finite Cauldron would like peace, that's why we're willing to waste more time listening to your stupid arguments. A pact that can be broken at will is nary a pact at all.
I wouldn't wipe my ass with your offers so far. You're terrible at every peace conference you've been at in this game. No.2181
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>>2178>….How the fuck do I prove that? Also, I'm not insistent about it; I was actually considering deleting my post to remove the pointless sentence. w/e tho, I really don't have enough fucks to justify spending any on something that trivial.You could've easily rushed out an image with it stating you weren't said user. It wouldn't fully prove you, but it would go a long way to helping you look better.
>………..
>u wot m8Does my point make sense yet(I made a specific example so you would understand)? You are limiting people on something about flavoring. Flavoring. Something so trivial and stupid that you should have no right to control. If you want to go around and muscle people who disagree with you, fine. But don't come to a NAP if you're so far up your ass in your mythos that you don't even care about peace.
>Refer to:Except he still isn't attacking you first. He's using your arbitrary and stupid rule to goad you into attacking him which makes it fine for him to counter attack. You're own petty focus is what's giving him the justification.
No.2182
>>2180But Scarf isn't the problem, is it? If I'm not missing anything, I'm pretty sure the RP bullshit is Dark Vessel's fault.
No.2183
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>>2182I will concede that scarf suggestes to lessen the degree of the penalty to just embargoing, but DV held strong and refused to budge.
I wish we could have made a treaty but they refuse to budge ae of right now.
No.2184
>>2180Okay, this post confuses me. I had been working under the assumption that there had been a tragic miscommunication, or that you wanted the period between dissolving the pact and it no longer being binding to be longer… But
>It has been found that major powers are more likely to start military conflicts against their partners in non-aggression pacts than against states that do not have any sort of alliance with themThat statement is so completely mind-boggling that I cannot take it seriously. Is that a typo? A joke? Is asking for peace *literally* a declaration of hostilities to you? Is honest trade an act of war? Is a formal agreement to not attack equal to a leaked battle plan??
By that logic, we should both just walk away and make zero promises. That way, peace would be *more* likely, not less, counterintuitive as that may seem.
No.2185
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>>2180>You guys approached us. You came up, said 'Hey, want a non-aggression pact' to Myra.DV told me that they aren't planning to attack us once we leave noob protection. I was like 'Yeah, that's cool. How about a NAP to prevent us from backstabbing each other in case a third party attacks one of our alliances?'
Instead of a simple 'yes' or 'no', I've been dragged into a Skype chat with Scarf because apparently DV's alliance consists of two smaller alliances (the lunafags and FotA).
Scarf planned to write a wall of text (which didn't happen after all) with all kinds of rules and exceptions for the NAP. Realizing that this issue is slightly getting out of hand, I added TyHachi into the chat because he's the leader of our alliance.
Then they demanded that we ban our members from using an entire government type. You can read the rest of the story in this thread. :3
No.2186
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>>2185Don't forget the clause stating either party can disband the pact and then attack after 24hours.
Which means this is less of a NAP and more of a hey we will warn you 24hours before an attack, Kay?
No.2187
>Our alliance description says that anyone going Solar Vassal, whoever they are, has declared war *on us*. Not the other way around.
This sentence is completely devoid of any sort of logic whatsoever. I-it actually hurts my head to think about..ouch.
Ya ain't the world police.
>As I said, there is *NO* difference between SV and LC. No other government type is in question. And there wouldn't even be any cost associated with compliance; we'd pay for 100% of the price of going Client! NOTHING about this controls your alliance in any way!
There's no difference, yet you insist (to an autistically painful degree) that people go client.
Nobody likes being told what they can and can't do.
How many years have you lived on this planet and not realized this?
No.2188
>>2156>>2171I forgot the links.
No.2190
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Fixing a sentence that completely failed to parse. Not hiding evidence.
~
>>2184>That statement is so completely mind-boggling that I cannot take it seriously. Is that a typo? A joke? Is asking for peace *literally* a declaration of hostilities to you? Is honest trade an act of war? Is a formal agreement to not attack equal to a leaked battle plan??Have you looked at the definition of a non-aggression pact? The reason that entire section is italicized is because I copied it verbatim from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-aggression_pact
>By that logic, we should both just walk away and make zero promises. That way, peace would be *more* likely, not less, counterintuitive as that may seem.Huh, I'm pretty sure hostilities would be much lower if there was just a general state of non-interference between our groups. Things only get worse every time TyHachi has to come back to
The Council of Infinate Meh-ness with a new 'peace' proposal.
>>2182>But Scarf isn't the problem, is it?I think the course of this conversation disagrees.
>>2185Sorry, I was running with incorrect information. That's just the angle I saw.
>Scarf planned to write a wall of text … with all kinds of rules and exceptions for the NAPI'm with Myra here. You can go with
Yes, lets not attack each other; or
No, feel free to go ham on my nuts at any time please.
Exceptions and conditions only make me more wary. Like you're waiting for the slimmest justification so you don't look like a bad guy.
>>2187>Nobody likes being told what they can and can't do.See, you've yet again made me realize my deepest fear; which is agreeing with Lolipop.
This is why I don't avatarfag Sweetie. It's for your own good.
No.2191
>>2190>See, you've yet again made me realize my deepest fear; which is agreeing with Lolipop.Fear, agreeing with me?
How can you not when I make this much damn sense?
>This is why I don't avatarfag Sweetie. It's for your own good.Cum to the dark side~
No.2192
>>2185
>consists of lunafags and FotA…..Where do you even get that from? FotA never cared about government types. There's just the CoLC.
>NAP to prevent us from backstabbing each otherKnow why I posted that old screenshot? Because
apparently, NAPs don't prevent a damn thing when Myra's involved.
>wall of textAfter three hours, I looked over my work, and decided that it was cancer. That's how ridiculous it was; even *I* couldn't bring myself to read the whole thing. After pruning it, it basically became the simple pact below.
>demanded that we ban an entire government typeHow many times, Myra. We asked that *HALF* of a government type be banned! There is zero difference between Solar Vassal and Lunar Client
I want to make some kind of shorthand for that sentence, since I'm clearly going to be saying it a *lot*. If we pay for 100% of the cost of going Client from Vassal… then the *only* remaining reason for someone to stay Vassal is RP purposes. Which we are care about.
Furthermore, later in the chat, I offered this:
"1. No player in either alliance may send attacking forces at any player in the other alliance.
2. Similarly, no player in either alliance may send resources to any other player for the purposes of attacking the other alliance.
3. Either alliance leader may, for any or no reason, dissolve the Non-aggression pact at any time.
This Non-Aggression pact remains binding for all players involved for 24 hours in case of any player leaving either alliance or the dissolution of the pact."
As the whole pact. Nothing about Solar Vassals. Nothing about *ANY* action or choice made by either alliance except for attacks. I also offered that the binding period may be extended to whatever you like. Sure, it's a 24 hour warning before attacks…. That's still superior to "Hey, feel free to attack at literally any moment, but watch your incoming".
>>2190
>You can go with "Yes, lets not attack each other"; or "No, feel free to go ham on my nuts at any time please".The world of politics isn't confined to "war" and "peace", there are degrees in-between. I don't know how you can possibly not know that? The pact, as it stands, says "Normally, we'd be looking for surprise attacks every 12 hours, but let's agree to not be assholes at each other", or at least that's how I interpret it. Is it so wrong to ask for warning before being attacked?
No.2193
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>>2192
>…..Where do you even get that from? FotA never cared about government types. There's just the CoLC.Thenway say there are Lunarfags and FotA? He knows that this is a thing from coming from CoLC because he points out the fact the LBoS is a unity between two alliances.
>Know why I posted that old screenshot? Because apparently, NAPs don't prevent a damn thing when Myra's involved.This isn't about Myra. Its about a NAP between my alliance and yours. I can police my own members and do what's needed if they do something improper. That isn't your job and you shouldn't feel the need to make NAPS to do my job for me
>How many times, Myra. We asked that *HALF* of a government type be banned! There is zero difference between Solar Vassal and Lunar Client I want to make some kind of shorthand for that sentence, since I'm clearly going to be saying it a *lot*. If we pay for 100% of the cost of going Client from Vassal… then the *only* remaining reason for someone to stay Vassal is RP purposes. Which we are care about.Except some people like Celestial or want to be solar but don't care about your petty rp. No one wants your headcannons dictating how they play the game or set up their nation.
>As the whole pact. Nothing about Solar Vassals. Nothing about *ANY* action or choice made by either alliance except for attacks. I also offered that the binding period may be extended to whatever you like. Sure, it's a 24 hour warning before attacks…. That's still superior to "Hey, feel free to attack at literally any moment, but watch your incoming".
The original treaty involved the Solar Vassal rule which is why we disagreed. You yourself mentioned someone going SV is a reason to break the pact. Therefore nothing has changed. You only made a spoken regulation unspoken.
>The world of politics isn't confined to "war" and "peace", there are degrees in-between. I don't know how you can possibly not know that? The pact, as it stands, says "Normally, we'd be looking for surprise attacks every 12 hours, but let's agree to not be assholes at each other", or at least that's how I interpret it. Is it so wrong to ask for warning before being attacked?Except its a shitty deal where you gain control over things in my alliance and I get nothing. You can break the pact at any time and make the idea of this NAP entirely pointless. The NAP should be to stop fighting from happening, not stalling it by 24 hours.
No.2197
Daily reminder that Scout is a lying fear monger toxic to everything he touches.
No.2198
>>2197Scout? Yeah, you can't trust FFA.
No.2199
>>2197>>2198Meh typos, the image makes the actual intent clear enough
No.2202
>>2199
>3rd time using the same image
>3rd time No.2204
>>2202ooh, sounds like you're getting a little mad.
No.2206
>>2204I'm pointing you that it's getting repetitive. The board has protections against that kind of thing, you know.
No.2207
>>2206*Pointing out
(lousy tablet)
No.2208
>>2206>The board has protections against that kind of thingThe purpose of an imageboard is the sharing of images. The protection exists to make sure that people don't share the same content over and over again (at least in a limited time frame which is pretty short on active boards but pretty much forever on /compounds/ due to the lack of replies and threads).
Since /compounds/ is about talking about a browsergame rather than sharing images, posting the same message twice is completely legitimate.
No.2212
>>2196Wait, why is FotA still a thing?
It's a brand new day in CLOP, shouldn't they make their own group? As it is, it's fused on to other people's groups like a malignant tumor?
That makes sense in Compounds, where Alliances are supposed to grow via budding. It makes a bit less sense in CLOP unless you just want to have a big group size.
>>2192>The pact, as it stands, says "Normally, we'd be looking for surprise attacks every 12 hours, but let's agree to not be assholes at each other"You're playing CLOP, I'm going to be checking for surprise attacks every 3-4 hours just to be safe. The purpose of the agreement is primarily to reduce the number of people out for your blood.
The world of politics is full of gray areas, but the world of gaming is pretty straight forward.
You have friends, enemies, and other people.
If you like to put your friends in gray areas, there's no real reason you should stay in the
friend box.
If you can't agree to
Dude, let's be friends without a plethora of conditions, the answer becomes no.
No.2214
>>2212Why is MTVS still a thing? Why is FFA still a thing? Why is AMEP still a thing?
They just are. Not everyone found new allies or left their old ones.
No.2215
>>2212
>FotA still a thingFotA does not exist.
Yes, I said that, with tripcode. FotA does not exist, it has not existed since reset.
Stop talking about it as if it's a thing that guides my every waking action, because IT ISN'T.
No.2216
>>2212Also, check your Skype. You should have some new messages.
No.2218
>>2217Oh look, a slightly different image. Do a negative next time, or flip it horizontally; that should let the pony handle a few more beatings.
Why haven't you changed 'Celestia' to 'Luna'? That seems like it would be more offensive to a lunafag. No.2220
>>2215>top talking about it as if it's a thing that guides my every waking action, because IT ISN'T.He's right, Minty. What really guides his every waking action is my mere existence. :P
>>2217lel, love the new image
No.2221
>>2220Why thank you, it took over 420 hours in Pidgin
No.2222
>>2219I said
FLIP across the horizontal! Is that so difficult!>>2221Got a bit of a stray line down there :^)
No.2223
>>2222Thats some sloppy font you've got going there
No.2224
>>2223At least it's legible :D
No.2228
>>2212>Makes sense in compounds…I just want the green text. Is laziness a crime?
No.2229
>>2196You misunderstand. Half of the alliance comes from FotA.
Scarf is very popular with FotA players, due to his history
Therefore, if any agreement is made, having Scarf's support (unofficially) adds popularity and thus legitimacy to it, instead of me randomly saying 'Oh we're NAPed with these guys now', which I could probably technically do anyway, but i'd still like that legitimacy.
TL;DR: Scarf is a celebrity, celebrities have power, power is friendship, friendship is magic, magic is power.
TL;DR: I may not have fully thought through the implications of that statement
No.2230
>>2192Holy shit
This reply is so fucking autistic
No.2231
>>2222Flop across the horizon aka flip over the X axis? You flipped it across the Y axis, or across the vertical. For an autist of your magnitude, I was hoping for at least a shred more savant.
Oh and nice quads.
No.2233
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>>2229>Dark Vessel needs Scarf's endorsement to carry legitimacyHmm it seems like I've seen something like this before…
>>2047 No.2234
>>2233T'is almost as if you are intentionally misunderstanding. I carry legitimacy as it is, but Scarf has popularity within the alliance which can be added to that if he agrees :P
No.2236
>>2234You say that now, but what if you do something he disagrees with?
No.2246
>>2236I'm guessing they do what any normal human being would do, as long as they weren't Baldwin-tier raging autists, and talk it out. What's your point?
No.2248
>>2246>Scarf>talking things out>this entire thread No.2250
>>2248Yeah, I bet the people crashing the thread from other alliances has nothing to do with the attitude of someone who has taken the defense of the political position of his friends as his duty.
Get your head out of your ass, you were talking about him and Dark Vessel disagreeing. To my knowledge, that is different from Scarf and Myra disagreeing. God, I don't even care about the lunafag retards, but fighting autism with autism only results in cancer, like this whole thread.
No.2286
The point, ladies and gentlecolts, is that greed, for lack of a better word, is good.
No.2288
>>2286>greed is good>Communist PropagandaPick
ONE!
No.2290
>>2289You know Gordon Gekko goes to jail because of statements like that right?
You know Capitalist Communist is paradoxical, bordering on the oxymoronic, right?
No.2294
No.2297
>>2294
>dat shirtI'll take a dozen! Where do I order them :3
No.2315
>>2313
Are you compensating for something with that bit penis? It seems like you have to show off everything you do to validate yourself or something.
No.2326
>>2317
Or maybe, you know, I just don't really care. I'm just noting how a certain player feels they need to report everything they do from factory creations to ascension. Its like they're desperately trying to stay relevant or something because no one really cares.
No.2327
>>2326
Things are important because someone made them to be important. If absolutely no one cared about what happened a hundred years ago, do you think kids would have to learn about that in school?
He's basking in the glory of being the most successful player in the game right now. Put him down as much as you wish. You're playing the same game as he is, and he's doing better. He cares enough to get a kick out of bragging about it. You care enough to mention how much he cares about it. If you didn't care, you wouldn't be talking about it. Heck, you wouldn't even check this thread at all. Maybe not even this board. I care enought to write this reply.
People, I know how much you like the smell of your own shit, but please do take your heads out of your fucking asses before spouting your every thought. As few as they might be in those small heads of yours how would they fit inside your asses otherwise? Any other explanation come to mind? :^), the sheer lack of quality to the words detracting on Scarf and his ensemble makes me wonder how much better your side is.
Or maybe, you know, you don't care enough to insult him appropriately. Now, what have I heard about shitposting ironically?
No.2328
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>>2327
> He's basking in the glory of being the most successful player in the game right now
Different anon here now and you're mistaken if you think that's true, I'll now outline several reasons why.
He keeps bragging about his high gdp and you seem to believe that this means he's doing the best and I feel inclined to remind you to look at the , this is the line on top of those rankings. His GDP is the result of having built a mall insides of a prez nation, which gives him the advantage of cheaper factories which add to his gdp as well, while the non prez nations which also have malls have of course not built as the return for them is not yet worth it.
However those nations all also have massive infrastructure to produce resources as well which should also be taken into consideration if you're trying to decide who is performing best before making a decision as we should likewise consider the potential income of parts sales. For example lets look at one of the other nations currently hosting a mall; Annuvin hosts 10 oil frackers in it which in addition to its 10 basics is 250 oil produced before the drain of the combustors and refineries bring it to 216 a tick, now lets look at how many bits that can be correlated to. Needless to say prices fluctuate and oil is currently at a spike so lets say instead that it was selling at 3.5k bits which seemed the stable point for a short period of time, in this situation that 216 oil left over would generate an additional 756,000 before taxes rendering the amount actually received at 680400 totalling this with Annuvin's total gdp we see that this raises pertick capita to 1,233,900 just shy of being at the same amount. If you repeat the same formula for The Changeling Hive and take static demand for copper into play we actually return an even higher amount before even taking secondary resource production into consideration (there isn't enough of a current price metric to feel like I'd be performing that calculation properly) which seems to suggest that at present The Changeling Hive seems to be the nation in the game which generates the most total income per tick.
Now shall we look at pertick consumption?
Empyrean Eternal requires 23 sugar, 12 coffee, 9 copper, 2 gems, and a whopping 152 oil to run per tick. Using current market prices at time of posting this totals 1,307,000 as bits spent on upkeep a tick ironically more than the nation generates meaning that with standard cost for these resources considered it's actually running at a loss.
Annuvin requires 7 sugar, 12 coffee, 2 mps, 5 vps, 6 cupcakes, and 5 toys now lets do the same, toys aren't currently listed so we'll assume the same price as gems placing them at 10k and we're met with only a 307,919 bit upkeep.
The Changeling Hive which we had deemed the nation that produced the most income requires 14 coffee, 15 sugar, 34 oil, 1 plastic, 2 toys, 2 mps, 7 cupcakes and 5vps totalling out at 592,919 bits in upkeep each turn
With this taken into consideration we can see that of these three large mall nations Empyreon Eternal actually generates the least profit per tick.
This actually leads to something else worth mentioning as well; a prez is probably the worst location to locate a mall state as it needs to pay to acquire each resource and runs out of benefit from the extra sat production first when multiple malls are stacked there, lets take a moment and see how much energy Empyreon produces after upkeep compared to another prez though.
Empyreon Eternal currently produces 160 energy pertick which after upkeep provides a net of 106 energy to use toward part production a tick, after building the parts it needs to sustain its upkeep this leaves it at 99 energy a tick.
Now to look at another large Prez, The Lolipop guild generges 148 energy a tick, which after upkeep leaves it at 106 energy netted per tick
And finally as was mentioned in the chat unlike the other three players who have gotten them up he has had to shut his mall on ticks out of lack of supply, meaning that in all likelihood it had just been rushed to claim being first as opposed to the others having been planned by their builders.
I'd like to close this little analysis by saying that milestones aren't as important as planned progress and that you should put more thought into who is performing "best" in the game when looking to do so in the future, and my thanks to anyone who took the time to read through this full post.
No.2329
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>>2328
*to look at the message on top of the gdp rankings
Shoulda known I'd make a typo somewhere
No.2331
>>2330
☐ Not kek'd ☑ kek'd
No.2332
>>2328
So what you're saying is?
1. Scarf a greedy shit exploiting his alliance for personal gain. Negatively impacting the productivity of the alliance as a whole in order to boost his own ego with pointless reset "firsts"
…or probably more likely
2. Scarfs just not very bright
No.2334
>>2328
Really interesting analysis. Thanks for your effort.
>>2332
>pic related
No.2357
>>2345
Although it is a long post, it's informative and fascinating. You should read it, Scarf.
No.2359
>>2357
>Thinking I'm Scarf
>Pic related
No.2362
>>2359
Still, trying to declare teal deer at something that's both informative and shorter than the Futa Luna Scat fic you were going to read anyways is kind of sad.
But whatever, it's your call in the end.
No.2374
>>2362
Congratulations, that was completely uncalled for.
What the fuck, Minty.
What the actual fuck.
No.2377
>>2374
>What the fuck, Minty.
>What the actual fuck.
You didn't have to look up what I said if you didn't want to.
No.2378
>>2377
One hardly needs to look up 'scat fic' to know what that is.
I don't know what is wrong, but I genuinely hope you get those issues resolved.
No.2519
Just a friendly reminder that CoLC is totally awesome and that our thread doesn't deserve to fall to page 2
I'd be bragging about our accomplishments, but that pony's been beaten enough
No.2544
Friendly reminder that if Luna supports egalitarianism and individuality, threatening war against solar vassals for preferring Celestia is hypocrisy of the highest order.
No.2546
>>2544
Friendly reminder that Celestia does *not* support individualism or egalitarianism, and therefore supporting her ideology *and* expecting the opposite of her ideology is patently ridiculous, and also insulting to Luna
No.2548
Could somebody piece together a history for TCoLC? I'm interested in reading the story of how TCoLC formed, beginning from mid game clop 1.0
I'm a new-ish player and would like to know the heritage of this alliance before I consider joining.
No.2549
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>>2548
The lunar clients did basically nothing for a long time. They started a war over moonfags vs sunfags once but were raped by AMEP. They didn't do anything after that for a long time until their leader decided to opportunistically join the war against Aryan which backfired hilariously and along with their allies they were overwhelmingly raped with several members of the alliance just deciding to defect instead of bothering to fight the war at all.
Now they're back and merged with Fota, the alliance with probably the biggest record of failure the game has seen.
No.2550
>>2548
If you join Lunar clients you'll just be roped into doing what they want and having everything you do decided for you, its the quicktime event of alliances, only way more liable to get you killed.
Honest opinion if you want to play casually go FFA instead, if you want to play more seriously and concentrate on team work and what not join the Finite Cauldron instead, if you plan to play seriously and would rather rely on yourself and the free market and enjoy Nazi propaganda and elitism then MTVS is the way to go.
No.2552
>>2550
>Honest opinion if you want to play casually go FFA instead
And be subject to Dovesy's autism? Pass.
No.2553
>>2552
Oh no! That's such an original and hurtful insult! You really got me there, mate!
No.2557
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No.2558
>>2557
A party!? I love parties!
No.2559
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>>2558
>>2557
Yaaaaaaaaaay! Parties are the beeeeest!
No.2564
I LIKE WHERE THIS THREAD IS GOING!!
No.2565
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>>2564
This is agent Ponk. Thread derailment proceeding as planned, though reinforcement pinkieposts are required. Pinkhorse besthorse, Ponk out
No.2567
>>2565
Roger that. Commence ponk mode.
No.2568
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>>2567
PONK MODE CONFIRMED
No.2569
Lel, what just happened?
A certain Insomniac Britfag Husbando should be quite pleased with where this thread is going. :P
No.2570
>>2569
>Lel, what just happened?
If I had to guess, i'd say Dovesy got bent out of shape about me calling him out on his autism, and started spamming the shit out of the Coalition's alliance thread.
He's a bit of a chucklefuck like that.
No.2571
>>2570
Ohhhhh! A mystery! Sounds exciting!
No.2572
>>2570
Wow, you really are a conspiritard, aren't you?
Only one of those ponkas is me.
If you can guess which one first try I'll give you 16 oil in game
Enough to keep your shitty little nation alive for one more tick
No.2573
>>2572
>Admits i'm right
>Calls me a conspiritard
>Calls my nation shitty
>It requires the same inputs as his
Step up your game.
No.2574
>>2572
>>2573
The part I find to be interesting is that while you both disagree on FFA's casual status in game, you're both agreeing on the negative implication of having to follow orders in the CLoC/FotA fusion alliance.
Also I'm pretty sure you guys just like posting pink pony.
No.2575
>>2574
I don't disagree. FFA is for casuals.
But I could never see myself as part of an alliance led by a shitposting moron like Dovesy, and neither could I see myself as part of an authoritarian alliance like the CLC that tries to dictate what governments people can hold game-wide.
Which is why i've declared myself for the Princess of the Sun.
Remember kids:
Celestia is what's best for ya'!
No.2576
>>2574
>Also I'm pretty sure you guys just like posting pink pony.
yep
No.2577
>>2573
Where the hell did I admit you were right? About anything? Ever? I posted one pinkie pie in reply to your insightful, witty comment. The funny part is at least two other people know you're full of shit because they posted the other ponkas. (likely TCoLC members themselves.)
Step my game up? You hypocritical loser.
>Requires the same inputs as mine
>1/3rd the sugar farms, using half that sugar for bakeries, no factories, and no hope after noob week ends.
>Pic related
Somebody is going to get an easy burro in a week or so.
No.2578
>>2577
Aww, diddums.
Somebody's mad that we're at comparable levels despite me joining the best part of a week after you did.
No.2579
>>2578
Everybody has the right to be wrong.
No.2580
>>2548
As a new-ish player, you should know that we've got a FEW… Enemies on the board, so take everything here with a grain of salt.
Authoritarian? Not so much. All we ask is that you do not invade other alliances unprovoked, that you do not sell things on the market with immoral practice (1-bit pricing wars), and that you do not take the Solar Line governments. This means Oppression, Repression, Authoritarian and most importantly of all Solar Vassal (Though, you won't need those gov types. You still have the full Lunar line available to you with us.)
If you want, you could join our little communistic commune, where we gib free stuff and grow.
>'Track history of failure'
Just look at the average size of our members compared to the other alliances, and tell me again that we harm our players.
>'Opportunistically join the war'
We were allies with FotA for months. It would have been dishonorable to not have come to their aid.
Our leadership is experienced, and we are the only alliance with a War Calculations Spreadsheet; We'll calculate your defenders for you when it's needed. (And trust me, without a spreadsheet it can take a long time.)
(Okay, The Machine Orthodoxy has a war spreadsheet too, but they're essentially an alliance of two of the oldest players in the game, who happen to be massive trolls as well)
No.2581
>>2548
FINALLY
>Our members defected
…Uhhh, wut?
Upon the initial defeat, I disbanded the alliance and advised it's members to go their seperate ways. As far as i'm aware, none joined our enemies at the time; A few stasised, a few joined up with FFA I believe, and others joined FotA.
No.2582
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>>2580
> and we are the only alliance with a War Calculations Spreadsheet;
Yeah, that's mostly true.
I mean, sure, that spreadsheet's resulted in a few losses. Mostly thanks to logistical errors in troop movements.
And then there's the abject difficulty in calculating troops by hand. I mean, that puts so much strain on individuals.
And paper I suppose. Lots of counting goes in there. Why would you want to overdefend really?
No.2583
>>2582
>Losses
Wut? That spreadsheet's resulted in no losses so far. The loss of my nations was a controlled event.
No.2585
>>2580
>Just look at the average size of our members compared to the other alliances, and tell me again that we harm our players.
I already did, sometime last week, I think? You've got a lot of well developed nations, but a much lower ratio per alliance member.
>we are the only alliance with a War Calculations Spreadsheet
Welp I know what I'm doing with my spreadsheet this weekend.
No.2586
>>2584
That was a result of overwhelming force, not the spreadsheet.
No.2587
>>2036
>Welp I know what I'm doing with my spreadsheet this weekend.
Nothing, because we have two programs in our alliance that can calculate defenses? One of the scripts can even readout the Incoming Tab and calculate stuff fully automatically. :P
Not that I would need something like that. I don't trust any programs to calculate my shit for me.
>pic related
The clouds in the top right were for an animation that never got finished.
No.2588
>>2585
2/15 of our members are undeveloped, and we freely give resources to those members who ask.
This is compared to 3/8 for Finite Cauldron, and 4/5 for MTVS (I doubt the Machine Orthodoxy will recruit, somehow :P)
You miss all the shots that you do not take. This is especially true in our alliance. Now that I have stated this, those two need some looking at, thanks for reminding me~ I'll take a look at them later. Perhaps tomorrow.
>>2587
Well, that be news. Fun!
No.2590
>>2588
>2/15 of our members are undeveloped
Maybe by your definition of undeveloped. How about you re-examine those numbers, splitting them up by number of extremely developed, highly developed, moderately developed, and minimally developed nations?
No.2591
>>2587
>fairly well-drawn pones all over the calculations
You have a scanner? Compounds needs banners.
No.2592
>>2590
I think I see your issue. It's the saddles, correct?
Having frackers sorta overrides the negative look. It may not seem like our saddles have much, but we've pumped them with frackers, which are muuuch better than any other building, by far. Overall, we have one undeveloped guy, and three zebs who should really up their gem and tungsten production, but are looking very good without them anyway.
No.2593
No.2594
>>2593
You're hurting my feelings. ;_;
No.2595
>>2591
I don't have any pics that fit to the settings of Compounds. Maybe I'll draw something later.
I want to finish the buildings for Clop first, though. This could take some weeks because I'm wasting way too much time with a certain browsergame.
No.2596
>>2592
>It's the saddles, correct?
No, building quality is my main metric.
No.2597
>>2596
Your metric is probably not accounting for the fact that with 15 people, they don't need to push softcaps as hard. They are probably overflowing with money and resources without even hitting softcaps. When you have fewer people, of course they'll be more developed, because it's a necessity… Not a luxury.
No.2598
>>2588
>and 4/5 for MTVS
I'm under-built now?
No.2599
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>>2580
>we are the only alliance with a War Calculations Spreadsheet
Correction, you're the only alliance who feels the need to run around with your dick in hand telling everyone to look at it.
Pic related, not to mention the screen cap of a python based war calculator right on FFAs description
No.2600
>>2593
>replying to 25 posts at once
>pic related
No.2601
>>2598
Dude.
>no plastics
>no toy/candy shops
>barely broke softcap on energy
That's underbuilt by CoLC standards. What, are you trying to be as self-sufficient as possible? Nice low-oil build, except that it's, y'know, a low oil build.
Is THK really charging you guys that much for oil?
No.2602
>>2601
For all those too lazy to check for themselves Aryan currently has more basic, mech, and coffee farms than of any CoLC members if not the most of anyone in the game (too lazy to check that one)
Once again Scarf proves himself a shit
No.2603
>>2598
>cute
Yes. Yes you are.
>>2601
Do you think we should organise some aid for these poor ponies? They clearly need some help if they think this is developed. ^_^
No.2604
>>2603
>dis faggot criticizing other nations
Your builds a joke man, anyone who knows what they're doing would tell you so.
No.2605
>>2601
What need have I for plastics, toy & candy shops or to break my softcaps on energy?
>>2603
I got the biggest failure in the game trying to tell me I'm under-built. I'm built to purpose. Any more right now is just redundant. Your build is terrible. Inefficient. As are half the builds in your shitty alliance.
No.2606
>>2603
>if not the most of anyone in the game
Besides some people with 3-5 more basics, and Dovesys 32 basics. I have more basics, coffee and mechs than anyone in the game.
Some people can't count it seems.
No.2607
>>2597
So what you're saying is… the problem with my metric is my standards aren't low enough to consider most CLC nations as 'highly developed'?
No.2608
>>2605
Your friend Myra has *long* since calculated that Toy/Candy shops are the superior option for sat, at least up to plastics softcap. Assuming gas for energy and 10k bits cost for each basic resource
And even then, they're pretty good. I can't see how all those coffee shops are at all superior to diversifying sat sources when you're *that* far over the coffee softcap.
In point of fact, in terms of net coffee, you're *behind* some of our individual burros.
>>2604
Dumbass; Eggs is *still* making fuckloads of oil and we are cruising on huge stockpiles everywhere. I'm personally using well, fucking calculate it (I'm not gonna make your life easier), but I've still gone to bed on well over a day's stockpiles.
>>2607
The problem with your metric is you aren't thinking in the same way as we are.
>>2605
So, what, your purpose is to feed THK sugar and coffee? You're not making bits, despite paying for Repression, and you're not netting a hell of a lot of coffee, since… what, you value raw oil? Or just want to minimize shipping? The only possible purpose you have is to net sugar/coffee/drugs. I'll grant that you have some sugar, but you dun goofed on the other two.
And what's with the drug farms, m8? You're not at Authoritarian or Oppression do either one, I dare you :P, so that ends up costing you a pile of rep. One less drug farm and slash one set of worships, and you'll start having more energy to, y'know, net some coffee
No.2610
>>2608
Yes everyone knows T&Cs are most efficient (I did my own calculations btw, I didn't just take someone elses word for it. You should try doing that some time. Your own calculations).
T&C are not, in fact. Most efficient for burros.
I don't want to net coffee. I make it for sat for myself, and just enough to sell to my select few customers.
Please don't act like you know the mechanics of this game better than me. You don't. All the drivel that comes out of your mouth…it's too much for me. I can't rebut every stupid thing you say.
Coffee isn't worth more than what it can get you in resources now, because Pegasi arn't worth shit.
My Drug farms are off.
Yes raw oil is actually pretty useful.
>Authoritarian or Oppression do either one, I dare you :P
This I just don't get.
No.2611
>>2610
>admits to having disabled production buildings
>admits to not netting coffee
>sincerely believes that sat building efficiency changes between nation types
>uses raw oil for… something
>doesn't 'get' that high-tier Solar line governments have horrible drawbacks and don't provide significant advantages
You do my job for me so well. I honestly couldn't have made you say stupider things if I impersonated you.
Tripcode when, you complete idiot? I wouldn't even be surprised if this was an impersonator.
http://www.donutey.com/tripcodes.php in case you're just ignorant of the concept.
….Fuck it, arguing with you is either pointless or will make you realize your mistakes, so good night!
No.2612
>>2611
More idiocy from captain idiot himself. Who only does what he's told. doesn't have an original thought in his head.
>yes I do
>yes I do
>yes it does
>yes I do, and so will you when you realize what for
>You're an idiot
Did you need a guide to tell you how to make a tripcode?
I'm well aware how tripcodes work, what tripcodes do and why you're insecure enough to need one.
I got a masters in computer security btw, I'm more aware of how they work then you will ever be, so please, show me more of that ignorance you flaunt so well.
No.2613
>>2612
I said GOOD NIGHT, sir!
No.2614
>>2613
It's morning here. If you don't want to respond don't fucking respond.
No.2615
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No.2616
>>2608
>Dumbass; Eggs is *still* making fuckloads of oil and we are cruising on huge stockpiles everywhere. I'm personally using well, fucking calculate it (I'm not gonna make your life easier), but I've still gone to bed on well over a day's stockpiles.
You're an idiot, it's just painful. How much of a resource you make doesn't matter when you're innefecent as all hell in producing it. Honestly, that you morons think you have any semblence of an idea what you're doing is like a bad joke. Backing up his incredibly shit build ass efficent in anyway just shows even more that you have no idea what you're doing.
You guys are so incapable of playing the game that you try to latch onto ideas other people say whether they're right or not and even when they are you still manage to fuck them up royally, it's astounding really.
No.2617
>>2586
Those resulted in capture. And that's not even all of them, that's just the ones over a month old.
Overwhelming force is hard to overcome, really fucking hard. Sometimes you have to sacrifice places you'd rather save, and sometimes you lose places because people give bad information or don't tell you about an attack until two hours prior when you have to be at work instead.
I almost burned my first nation because I was sick of seemingly endless waves of attackers. Flag, Leafy, PIBH, and a bunch of people in FFA talked me out of it and helped me to defend what was mine.
But those? Those were uncontrolled losses. Losses of materials and land. You weren't trying to stop an untenable situation, you were folding.
Take Aperture Mining Facilities. There's not even a token defense, resulting in handing 'Bitzkrieg' 317,167,505 bits, 12393 Oil, and a wide assortment of other goods to be used in further warfare against you.
There's a transfer of goods out of the country an hour prior, but no other signs of action. I don't even see the attempt to burn that oil and summon hordes of enraged rebels. It's like you're fine with getting what you needed out of the place, but then didn't go the last step and strip the country bare.
I really like the part where you tried to go around to my alliance leader to get me to shut up instead of talking to me. That was just classy.
>>2593
>ITT: Autism
Oh my god, Autism in CLOP! What other mysteries will you reveal unto us great sage?
>>2608
>Your friend Myra has *long* since calculated that Toy/Candy shops
Everyone calculates that. You have to appraise value to your own goods on a personal basis.
> I can't see how all those coffee shops are at all superior to diversifying sat sources when you're *that* far over the coffee softcap.
Coffee and Sugar is cheap and easy for Burros to obtain, while requiring a low overhead of imported oil to keep running in the form of cupcakes and energy.
Oil is cheap and easy for Saddles, and with an initial investment of copper and parts, energy is easy to maintain, and with arcades you can operate with a low sugar overhead.
So no, some sat options are more viable in different regions, especially when you have a limited availability of materials.
>>2611
>admits to having disabled production buildings
Drugs aren't really a production building. They're a relationship control building. Like the worship centers, they aren't really producing anything besides negative Relationship and Relationship-to-Bit converters for sale to other regions.
>doesn't 'get' that high-tier Solar line governments have horrible drawbacks and don't provide significant advantages
Horrible is relative. You're attaching meaning to things that just aren't there. Oppression and Authoritarian have a place; I feel sad for you that you can't see why.
>uses raw oil for… something
I reorganized the list so you could see why actually. Do you want a hint? I'm pretty sure it's 8:1 on it.
>>2615
>yellow pone
No one really likes a cultist anyways.
No.2619
>>2613
>>2614
>Scarf trying to put Aryan to bed
>MFW
No.2620
No.2621
>>2617
>especially when you have a limited availability of materials
Ah, I see. Producing more than you do now is inefficient, but you have to get your sat as if you had "limited availability of materials". Got'cha, thanks for clearing it up.
No.2622
>>2621
> but you have to get your sat as if you had "limited availability of materials".
It creates really interesting situations when suddenly Oil jumps up to 20k per unit or Sugar pushes 35k per unit on the open market.
All nations need oil and sugar, but some empires are designed to weather market change or restrictive government types.
That's not even counting the fact that oil's basically worthless anyways.
No.2693
GOLD ALERT! REPEAT, GOLD ALERT!
Mintyrest, the traitorous swine, has become a Solar Vassal!
Oh, the horror of the situation can be heard far and wide. The cries of the foals in their beds, as the age of the Golden Tyrant has come, to terrorize and horrify each and every one of them throughout their now miserable lives.
In light of this travesty, the CoLC is now embargoing the corrupted territory of Oil Ocean, and we request that all loyal Lunar nations do the same.
Embargo Mintyrest if you support us, and join in the petition to save those poor foals!… Not that Minty will listen, if he has been corrupted by the Gold Tyrant's lies.
http://strawpoll.me/4286879
SHUN HIM! SHUUUN!
No.2694
>>2693
The NERVE of some players. It's like they're TRYING to offend us or get us to attack them or something :P
No.2695
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I'm sure the Patriarchy is behind this!
No.2697
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>>2693
>Not that Minty will listen, if he has been corrupted by the Gold Tyrant's lies.
No.2699
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>>2693 A solar Heathen has shown themselves? Such heresy shall not stand! *BLAM!*
No.2700
Non-Aggression Pact agreed to
>>2693
> Slander
> Intent to Cause Financial Hardship
> Obstruction of Free will
>>2694
> Vague Threat
>>2699
> Significantly Less Vague Threat
>>2482
> Possible Collusion
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/nonaggression
No.2701
>>2700
>intent to cause financial hardship
……Look, I'll accept 'vague threat', and I'll accept 'slander', and I'll begrudgingly accept 'obstruction of free will', but it's not like you're depending on our exports for survival, m8. Be reasonable
>reads the card
…..You are excused, apparently. Can't argue with the card. Night~
No.2702
>>2701
Oh, is it bedtime already?
No.2703
>>2700
>slander
Truth~
>NAP
And we won't attack you~
No.2713
Found this on >>>/pone/
Maybe you can have a good fap to it. Have fun. :3
No.2715
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I am now the first player pre - AND post - reset to become a Lunar Client! How delicious~
No.2717
>>2716
… Damnit now I want one of those.
No.2718
So does the rest of the CoLC
oh you meant the moon pie
No.2751
https://youtu.be/06X5HYynP5E?t=2m18s
I saw a rush to embargo when I didn't tell you about Vassal, yet no noticeable movement when I went client.
Seeing as you'll embargo me either way, there's no functional difference between the two states.
No.2752
>>2751
Oops, totally forgot
Go client again, and we'll unembargo you~
(Damnit Minty, flipping again!)
No.2753
No.2755
>>2753
>tfw noface
>>2752
Why worry?
I'll flip sides seemingly at random for fun now anyways, you might as well keep the embargo up anyways.
No.2756
>>2755
Uh.
You went client when I was asleep.
Then I see the thread, unembargo you.
And I check, and you're vassal?
Minty, that's an _absurd_ amount of energy you're investing into this prank~
Sending a bottle of vodka, because you clearly need it
No.2757
>>2756
>Minty, that's an _absurd_ amount of energy you're investing into this prank~
Have you done the math on that lately? Because it's not nearly as absurd as you think it is.
Oil prices are straight up in limbo mode how low can you go?, which means it's practically worthless, so getting 1k Relation on both sides isn't too much more than 30 million, or less should you be producing oil by the buckets.
Way, way less if you're producing it at insane enough speeds, and need to set up Environmental Facilities anyways.
Of course, I'm a tyrannical warmonger bent on world annihilation, willing to donate enough oil to push any single member of CoLC currently in Loose Despotism to Lunar Client. Or Solar Vassal if they want, it's not my call entirely.
Just my oil really.
I do need to test out something. But the offer is only available to members of CoLC in Loose Despotism.
No.2759
>>2756
>absurd amount of energy
More like absurd amount of oil.
No.2760
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No.2761
>>2760
The idiot who can't even spell 'Blut'