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No.2507
STOP FUCKING TRYING TO TRACE IPS ON SKYPE
OF COURSE THEY'RE FUCKING USING A PROXY FOR SKYPE
THEY'RE WORRIED THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO TRACE THEM
WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID
THEIR IPS ARE NOT THEIR >CLOP IPS, I WOULD HAVE BANNED THEM FOR RULE 1 IF THEY WERE
JUST LIKE I'M GOING TO FUCKING BAN YOU FOR RULE 3 IF YOU DON'T PUT AN END TO THIS SHIT
No.2508
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>>2507
O-oh noes. I thought we were passed all this unwarranted hate
Can't we all just get along?
You know, ponies and friendship and all that crap
No.2509
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>>2508
The irony is almost painful
No.2510
Is this about Sephi's new account?
No.2511
>>2509
>The irony is almost painful
I sleep through all the most interesting arguments?
What's this about again?
Is the paranoia infused state enabled by Compounds leaking backwards again? It sucks when you're put in a mode where you just can't trust nobody.
No.2512
>>2507
Honestly, Admin, why not just ban all these IP tracing faggots for rule three, Bug and Loli for rule two, and let the rest of us stand-up citizens get on with our lives?
No.2513
>>2512
>us stand-up citizens
>>1783
>>1793
No.2514
>>2511
I'm sure your choice of pic was intentional…It was wasn't it?
Stop copying me, grrr
>>2512
>stand-up citizens
Who was it who got banned for being an enormous faggot again?
Refresh my memory please. I forgot.
No.2516
>>2513
Hey, at the time I made my later accounts "impersonating" myself, my first was in stasis - in line with Admin's stated policies re: secondary accounts.
And when I let Scarf farm me for DNA, it wasn't against the rules. He subsidised my development, I gave him the fruits of my labour.
Simple. And at the time, perfectly legal.
Mintyrest, while reasonably well-informed, is incorrect in stating that I ever broke the rules.
Except for the first time, granted. But despite being unbelievably blatant there, Admin neglected to ban me. I'm not entirely sure why, but i'm sure he had his reasons.
>>2514
>Who was it who got banned for being an enormous faggot again?
As i'm sure you appreciate, Loli, being a massive faggot isn't actually against the rules~
No.2517
>>2513
Yep, I was wrong there regarding the application of Rule 3, and I'm sorry.
It was Dovesy who was swinging around the IP traces, not PIBH. I publicly apologize for my misunderstanding of the situation.
PIBH did start breaking rules, trying to get banned; but that was Rule #1, later; not Rule #3.
>>2514
>I'm sure your choice of pic was intentional…
It's funny. I didn't even come into play until the back end of that particular war, but I still must say I was quite impressed by your information manipulation.
It sucked to be on the receiving end mind you, but still impressed all the same.
Still, how could I not? The reversal of wink positions was just too sweet to pass up on.
But no, if being a giant faggot was bannable, there wouldn't be a player base.
No.2521
>>2516
>As i'm sure you appreciate, Loli, being a massive faggot isn't actually against the rules~
It should be encouraged actually. It can be a selling point. Stick it on all the banners
">Clop, where being a massive faggot isn't actually against the rules"
>>2517
>I still must say I was quite impressed by your information manipulation.
Manipulations, what manipulations?
I spoke the truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God.
Bug was the big manipulations guy. I just wanna have fu-un~
…fun
Like shiving Scarf
That's gonna be fun
~
No.2522
>>2521
>shiving Scarf
>fun
BRING IT. You Sith!
No.2523
>>2522
>Sith!
Everybody knows the Jedi are the bad guys anyway~
No.2524
>>2521
>Manipulations, what manipulations?
I didn't say manipulations, I said manipulation.
Information control and dissemination doesn't require that you lie about anything, it just requires letting people have access to the types of information that best suit your purposes.
Take this guy here >>2522
He manipulates people all the time. It completely wrecks most of his plans should anything he says pops up in a public space before he plans it to be there.
You on the other hand can take control of a public forum and alter the conversation in pretty much anyway you please without the use of sock puppets through sheer force of personality.
But what do I know? I'm clearly insane anyways.
No.2526
>>2523
Bad? Badflank maybe~
Go ahead. Try me. Ninja skillz won't save you~
>implying you have any~ :P
No.2527
>>2526
Taking a more open minded view of the original trilogy and pre-prequel expanded universe content, the prophecy that Anakin Skywalker would destroy the Sith was true enough from a certain point of view.
The death of the Jedi was also a component of the prophecy, as the Jedi had spent over a thousand generations stagnant and oppressive, which eventually resulted in the Dark Jedi Luke Skywalker's New Jedi Order, which approached the Force from a more holistic point of view addressing and adapting techniques and skills from multiple force factions that remained after that particular civil war.
Which is why we even have things like a Gray Jedi Code.
Things were fine in the universe until the First Great Schism where the first Jedi Order started a civil war because some assholes started telling other assholes how they should and shouldn't use their space telepathy magic.
Cold emotionless detachment won, because red hot burning passion only gets to win in anime, and makes completely terrible plans.
Yes, I am responding to this with the intent to use this image, because the chances of this conversation coming up again with in the next year is still pretty slim.
No.2528
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>>2524
>through sheer force of personality.
>sheer force of personality
>sheer force
force you say?
>can take control of a public forum and alter the conversation in pretty much anyway you please
Totally haven't done that since I got back..cough
>>2526
>Badflank
Get out!
>implying you have any~ :P
You're so new, you have no idea what I do or do not have~
>>2527
>Things were fine in the universe until the First Great Schism where the first Jedi Order started a civil war because some assholes started telling other assholes how they should and shouldn't use their space telepathy magic.
Jedi an oppressive authoritarian shit…reminds me of someone…
No.2529
>>2527
>the prophecy that Anakin Skywalker would destroy the Sith was true enough from a certain point of view
The prophecy was never that he would destroy the Sith, only that he would bring balance to the Force.
And what do you know, an overabundance of lightside force users isn't very balanced when you only have like 3-5 Sith around, tops!
No.2531
>>2529
> an overabundance of lightside force users isn't very balanced when you only have like 3-5 Sith around, tops!
2 at some points.
Hilariously, at the beginning of episode 4, there are 2 Jedi and 2 Sith left.
And Luke never completes his training under Yoda.
And then Luke kind of just wings the whole thing running on redemption, forgiveness, and harmony for the next 20 years of canon until they find a copy of Episode 3 in a derelict space ship which makes him flip out and go crazy till Disney eventually just deletes the expanded universe. More or less.
Yeah, it was balance to the force. But Lucas can't remember the difference between a thousand generations and a thousand years either.
No.2532
Have we thought about an IRC Clop channel? I'm sure Canternet would host one?
No.2533
>>2528
Oppressive authoritarian shit?
Dis guy? :^
No.2534
>>2533
Nah, he's a pretty cool guy.
He's got crazy low prices 24/7. It's a pretty sweet deal.
No.2535
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>>2533
My thoughts exactly
No.2536
>>2534
>>2534
>2015
>using free market shilling on allies
I can't even kek enough.
On a related subject. All players who believe in the power of the collective effort or like free shit should apply to join The Coalition of Lunar Clients.
Praise the moon! or die ^_^
No.2537
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>>2536
There's one problem: Luna is a shitty character.
The only reason why so many autistic Bronies can relate to her is that she has no friends and doesn't fit into society.
No.2538
>>2536
Nice threat there. :p
Also would like to note FC assists any player who takes initiative and wants to grow and improve.
No.2539
>>2532
>host an IRC channel for months
>it's almost never used so fuck that
>develop in-game chat by request
>it stops being heavily used
>Dovesy asks for IRC
No.2540
>>2539
>host an IRC channel for months
Damn, I missed the IRC days? Well kitten…
In game chat is mostly used for vague threats of violence and weird instant arguments.
>>2536
>Praise the moon! or die ^_^
I thing we should agree to disagree. And by that I mean that 1) Luna is an autistic bag of spaghetti, 2) the NLR makes no sense in relation to Luna in any way, and 3) I'm pretty sure Luna, Celestia, and Starbutt are off drinking mimosas in space while you guys are dropping vague threats.
Mimosas are now the official drink of Compounds.
Decided by a council of one.
No.2541
>>2540
>2
You are correct… Assuming that Celestia suddenly supporting dictators is not caused by her becoming possessed by some horrific being, and the only thing the NLR wishes is to reunite Luna and her sister!
No.2542
>>2541
>dictators
I mean, Tyrants. Luna and Celly would love dictators, so long as they're nice ones~
No.2543
No.2545
>>2542
A benevolent overlord is still an overlord though.
Monarchies without representation aren't built on stable ground.
No.2551
>>2545
Isn't a monarchy without representation exactly what Luna and Celestia run in canon? I'm not saying it's a good idea for non-immortal rulers, but they do seem to implicitly approve it…
No.2560
>>2551
Well it depends.
You can take the fact that neither has yet declared themselves God Queen as of yet as a sign that the social structure is likely a constitutional monarchy.
Also ponies are generally stupid It's pretty likely the noble families have input into the workings of everyday life, it's also likely that elected or assigned officials handle the actual work.
No.2561
>>2551
>>2560
Celestia and Luna also seem to at least like to pretend that they value what their subjects think ;)
No.2589
>>2561
Yes, it's a benevolent dictatorship…
No.2609
>>2589
Celestia and mostly Woona are both *demonstrably* superior to the other ponies, in wisdom and in raw power, so Equestria is one of the few states that can put forth a reasonable argument that they're a 'meritocracy'. Of course, one can call it a gerontocracy and it'd be more or less as accurate.
It's not a republic, but that doesn't mean the rulers are chosen arbitrarily.
No.2623
>>2609
It doesn't matter what name you give it; Luna and Celestia are the ones in power, and there is very little prospect of that changing at any point in the future, near or far. Their word is law; they dictate what happens, and that makes it a dictatorship.
Fortunately, it being a benevolent dictatorship, and Celestia and Luna being apparently immune to some of the worst poblems of Earthly dictators, the ponies in general are quite happy with the current state of affairs and would rather appreciate it if that state of affairs continues; this is what makes it a *benevolent* dictatorship.
No.2624
>>2528
Well, midnight hath come, and gone. I wake up, notice that I accidentally slept past the noon tick…
>pic related
What's wrong, Loli-senpai?
No.2625
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>>2624
Don't be stupid, they're reformed.
Peace in our time.
Horse pussy and stallion dick for all.
No.2627
No.2628
No.2629
>>2628
Why can't you make games like this badmin? Four would do the Illustration…
No.2630
>>2629
Yea! Why cant you take 12,000$ and about a year to release an unfinished game with old/uncredit art from other people.
No.2631
>>2630
Admin wouldn't do something like this. He's a big guy…
…for us.
No.2646
Okay, apparently a couple of people aren't grasping the intent behind Rule 4.
You may not offer or give anything in exchange for a user's last nation. You may not ask for or receive anything in exchange for your last nation. I know this is incredibly hard to enforce, but I've gotta try to nip this shit in the bud now.
No.2649
>>2646
Wait someone's nation building?
No.2653
>>2649
Something related to it was mentioned, but no, apparently not.
No.2655
>>2646
Is this Admin?
So… what if you literally give your nation away. Like, without any strings attached? That's pretty dipshit of course, but according to the wording of that statement it is allowable…?
No.2656
>>2655
4. You may not sacrifice your last nation.
The rule as worded seems to imply you should just stasis in that case. Or abandon the game and drop into stasis in a few days anyways.
Intentionally overloading your nation to give or lend the products to another player, knowing it will lead to the destruction of your nation, is banned.
It seems giving your last nation away is specifically banned.
No.2658
>>2656
Intentionally overloading your nation to give or lend the products to another player, knowing it will lead to the destruction of your nation, is banned.
That wording prohibits slave states… but then again, one can call the nation itself a 'product'. Or maybe that's nitpicking.
No.2743
http://clop.us/viewgraveyard.php?graveyard_id=422
>You spent 100 Drugs.
>You gained 2,000,000 bits.
>Intentionally overloading your nation to give or lend the products to another player, knowing it will lead to the destruction of your nation, is banned.
He spent drugs, gave away the money and blew his nation up.
Are you going to do something about this?
No.2744
>>2743
That's pretty tame by any standard. He didn't burn oil, spend the maximum drugs or farm anything…
I'd call it just a dead nation. Nothing wrong with that.
No.2745
>>2744
>That's pretty tame by any standard.
You bought 1 Drugs from Loft Gardens for 36,000,000 bits. 2015-05-12 11:45:11
Your deal with Earth Pony Republic was accepted.
You dealt away 40,000,000 bits. 2015-05-12 11:33:10
Your deal with Chapel Hill was accepted.
You dealt away 1,155 Oil.
You dealt away 9,927 Sugar.
You dealt away 710 Cupcakes.
You dealt away 1,500 Coffee.
You dealt away 500 Gems.
You dealt away 420 Composites.
You dealt away 72 Toys.
You dealt away 50,000,000 bits. 2015-05-12 11:30:13
I'm not even looking very hard, but it looks like someone dumped all material of value onto allies in an organized effort to fund a re-birthed nation in a new region (SA) while taking advantage of any usable resources in the old nation (Prez).
Did you even look at the graveyard?
No.2746
>>2745
I did see that. But the thing is, Mal could have smuggled many more drugs, burned oil for energy, or several other things that can only be done if you're sacrificing a nation.
My point is that it's a borderline case, not a clear-cut exploit.
No.2747
>>2746
>You spent 100 Drugs.
>Your relationship with the Solar Empire has dwindled due to your 100 Smuggle Drugs into the SE. (-100)
>You gained 2,000,000 bits.
>Smuggle Drugs into the SE completed successfully.
>You spent 26 Drugs.
>Your relationship with the New Lunar Republic has dwindled due to your 26 Smuggle Drugs into the NLR. (-26)
>You gained 520,000 bits.
>Smuggle Drugs into the NLR completed successfully.
>NightmareTown
>Killed by The Solar Empire
>228,508 Bits
>Intentionally overloading your nation to give or lend the products to another player, knowing it will lead to the destruction of your nation, is banned.
My question is where are the 2.5 million bits? If this was purely for a reset, why sis he break the rules? I can understand killing to start over, but admin has clearly stated that you cannot intentionally use all of you resources in such a way that will kill you, knowingly, and benefit another player. He overloaded Solar Empire sat and brushed Lunar Empire sat to make a quick buck off his nation, which is not allowed. Even if he takes resources back, he still lent them to other players. Mali did break the rules, Scarf. Even if he could have done more to profit, he still broke the rules.
No.2748
>>2747
It's up to Admin at this point. I would argue that Mal should be warned, but not punished.
No.2749
I should probably better explain Rule 4. What happened here was not against the rules.
Rule 4 exists to prevent people from abusing the satisfaction-depletion and nation-creation mechanics; i.e. making a nation with, say, 31 DNA extractors or 100 sugar farms or what have you, dropping the satisfaction down to -4500 or so, and then just letting the rebels take the nation to do it all again.
Giving everything away to start over, without abusing that mechanic, isn't the point of rule 4.
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No.2758
>>2749
>You cannot attack a nation that is younger than a week.
Just noticed the war guide still says this.
No.2975
While you're at it, could you not send me month-old Skype messages from third parties, who could easily have been lying, as marginal evidence that an old attack was a nation build?
I mean what the fuck do you expect me to do with this shit?
No.2985
After some back-and-forth I've decided to further clarify Rule 4.
No.3422
Both Dark Vessel and Darknight have broken the second part of Rule 4; they burned down their own nations to avoid their enemies getting them in war.
No.3423
>>3422
You'll see that mine was unintentional; I even asked Lolibug for cupcakes to fix it when the sat dipped due to deleting buildings. Pic related
No.3424
Soo yeah. I forgot that deleting TnC dipped the sat, and by then it was too late. :P
No.3425
>>3423
Oh, I stand corrected.
The reason I didn't actually do the "you get the nation anyway if you're incoming when it falls" thing is because I didn't want people going "I'm going to die, here, have a free nation" while destroying themselves, or people seeing nations taken over by rebels and deciding that they want to take them over instead.
And no, DV, you are not supposed to destroy your own buildings when you're about to be taken over, nor are you supposed to make any kind of deal for your nation. Cripes. I'll make this all more clear.
No.3426
>>3425
Okay, updated the rules again.
I swear, trying to write rules for this game is like trying to write rules for the chess club of the International Table Flippers' Association. Everyone's way more interested in taking their balls and going home than anything else.
No.3427
>>3426
Are you going to compensate Bug?
No.3429
>>3427
By all rights, I really should create blank-slate nations for both Bug and Aryan, as their targets blew themselves up.
You know what? Fuck it, I'm going to do it. Normally I'd refrain, as HOLY SHIT ADMIN IS FUCKING GIVING NATIONS TO THE BIGGEST AND MEANEST PLAYERS IN THE GAME causes people to leave, but those people left anyway.
Cripes. Sometimes I regret my decision of targeting the niche audience I did. I mean, if I had managed to create a casual, brony-friendly game with all the latest memes and pandering, and made it so that nobody could die and war was a silly little thing of a few resources, I bet I'd be rolling in cash right now. Instead I had to make something as unforgiving and fundamentally roguelike as >CLOP.
And you know what? I did create a game a little bit like that. I did create a game where it's hard to keep people down and friends mean more than anything. It's called Compounds, and nobody fucking plays it, because the people I wanted to seed that friend-based game don't actually have any friends.
No.3430
>>3429
>You know what? Fuck it, I'm going to do it.
Thaaaanks Admin <3
No.3545
Can someone get all the members of The Kingdom of Apples in a Skype call at the same time?
Because I've had to warn two of its members for fairly obvious multifagging and I'm wondering if I should just ban the lot, because I'm genuinely not sure if they're all the same person or not.
No.3548
>>3545
You should probably message Dark Vessel and get him to do it along with some other people to listen in and prove validity.
No.3549
>>3548
Even if we did get all them in a call, would you trust if we verified? Why not do it yourself?
Also, why don't you talk to *us* on Skype? An Admin moderated UN chat? That would make things much easier. And it would be fun as hell.
No.3550
>>3549
I'd be willing to verify. So there. I'm just saying DV probably can contact them easier then me. I'm willing to help, but it shouldn't be my job to prove it. I do. I'm not admin Dove
No.3551
Oops. I meant to reply to both of you.
No.3552
>>3549
I don't Skype. I probably should, but I don't.
Other players have offered this as a solution for suspected multifaggotry, so this is me taking them up on an offer.
If I can't trust the bulk of my players with verifying something like that, this game probably shouldn't exist.
No.3553
>>3552
Get Skype! It would be awesome to chat with you in real time about things, be it bugs, questions, or complaints. Even just to chat. And yes, that would be an effective solution for multifaggotry, but that would require people to make skype accounts and call somebody. Who would do that if they can't talk to Admin themselves?
You can trust the bulk of your players, but why would we do your job for you? If you think they're multifagging, figure it out yourself and make a decision. like you've done every other time we've accused a player of multi
By the way, I made a subreddit for this game a few months ago drunkenly and forgot about it, if anybody wants to post screenshots with discussions. https://www.reddit.com/r/bracketclop
No.3555
>>3553
>Get Skype!
Yeah, get Skype, Admin. Or give us some extended features for the ingame chat.
>call somebody
Don't force people to join calls just to verify their identity. Personally, I'd never join a call. I don't want anyone to hear my stronk German accent. :P
>https://www.reddit.com/r/bracketclop
>you need to be logged in to submit things
I know that reddit is a pile of crap but you can't even post anonymously on that shitty site?
No.3556
>>3555
Aye, there is no anonymity aside from throwaway accounts. Accounts are easy to make, no verification, just a username and password.
Or you could be a man and own what you say with a name and record that everybody can see.
Also, nice trips.
No.3557
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>>3556
>Or you could be a man and own what you say with a name and record that everybody can see.
This isn't about putting your name to some text. It's about the requirement to create accounts for every fucking website just to access content or make a post or two.
No.3563
Hello fellow >CLOPers I've been asked to tell you that as a result of a power failure Admin might be out of comission the next few days. Rest assured that order will be restored in short time.