/compounds/ - The Compounds of Harmony

>>879
Then you had no reason to make a grasp at peace and any attempt to do so would have failed because you would not trust.

>>878

Okay, you just proved you have no idea what you're talking about. At all. Schatten's activity checks happened over a week after the sham talks, and I was referring to Aryan's promise to continue his """"""activity checks"""""" against TKoE.

I didn't actually start those talks. I was invited by Sephi, and I wanted to make sure that he wouldn't fold under the pressure. I took a strong stance, and because it wasn't what you wanted to hear, that makes me a bully and crybaby. Since your opinion is inherently reality.

There really was nothing productive about the talks, though, I agree.

>>881
I'll just drop the peace talk from the moment you were invited. For anyone bored enough to read it.

[11/12/2014 02:57:46] Sephi Xarados: Okay, apparently Scarf has some counter-offers
[11/12/2014 02:57:52] * Sephi Xarados added sir.scarfalot *
[11/12/2014 02:58:08] sir.scarfalot: hello
[11/12/2014 02:58:18] Aryanne: Ello
[11/12/2014 02:58:27] Aryanne: Alright shoot.
[11/12/2014 02:58:30] sir.scarfalot: TKoE has done NOTHING wrong.
[11/12/2014 02:58:39] sir.scarfalot: not since he became a Follower, at any rate.
[11/12/2014 02:58:46] Aryanne: That doesn't matter to me
[11/12/2014 02:58:57] sir.scarfalot: well, it does to me, since denouncing him would be a lie.
[11/12/2014 02:59:02] Aryanne: Short of running his mouth off constantly, I just don't like him
[11/12/2014 02:59:03] sir.scarfalot: there is nothing to denounce.
[11/12/2014 02:59:24] Aryanne: You're not really in a position to argue here
[11/12/2014 02:59:32] sir.scarfalot: argue?
[11/12/2014 02:59:38] sir.scarfalot: are you threatening me still?
[11/12/2014 02:59:52] The Horned King: You have entirely reasonable terms, turning down what we negotiated here would be reckless and lead to unnecessary continued warfare.
[11/12/2014 02:59:52] sir.scarfalot: you STILL insist on making us leave the game.
[11/12/2014 02:59:53] Aryanne: If you insist on continuing the war then yes i am
[11/12/2014 03:00:14] sir.scarfalot: the song
[11/12/2014 03:00:19] sir.scarfalot: what is it, exactly?
[11/12/2014 03:00:26] Sephi Xarados: It's a German marching song.
[11/12/2014 03:00:33] The Horned King: German marching song about a flower and a girl
[11/12/2014 03:00:41] Aryanne: You know. You lied about me on the board several times, I don't care too much about your opinions
[11/12/2014 03:00:48] Sephi Xarados: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc-DgRO1SrQ
[11/12/2014 03:01:07] sir.scarfalot: have I.
[11/12/2014 03:01:11] Aryanne: Yes
[11/12/2014 03:01:33] sir.scarfalot: hmf
[11/12/2014 03:02:04] sir.scarfalot: you've lied as well.
[11/12/2014 03:02:11] Aryanne: >Aryan has bullied the Followers for far longer than the incident with Lise that sparked the open hostilities. He has not respected our wishes, interests, or ideals, and yet we were COMPLETELY patient. Despite long provocation, we were able to maintain the peace.
[11/12/2014 03:02:28] Aryanne: Point to one altrucations between us before this incident
[11/12/2014 03:02:39] sir.scarfalot: Emperor Hirohito
[11/12/2014 03:02:48] Aryanne: >Aryan has bullied the Followers for far longer than the incident with Lise that sparked the open hostilities. He has not respected our wishes, interests, or ideals, and yet we were COMPLETELY patient. Despite long provocation, we were able to maintain the peace
[11/12/2014 03:02:54] The Horned King: Had nothing to do with Aryan
[11/12/2014 03:02:55] sir.scarfalot: and the constant attacks on all of the unaligned players in the game.
[11/12/2014 03:03:03] The Horned King: Nothing to do with the followers
[11/12/2014 03:03:15] Aryanne: Name one other unaligned player I attacked then
[11/12/2014 03:03:17] The Horned King: If I might
[11/12/2014 03:03:44] sir.scarfalot: yes?
[11/12/2014 03:03:49] The Horned King: One moment
[11/12/2014 03:05:12] Sir Scarfalot: actually
[11/12/2014 03:05:20] Sir Scarfalot: I do want to say something to you, aryan
[11/12/2014 03:05:27] The Horned King: Having trouble finding it now
[11/12/2014 03:05:28] Aryanne: Go ahead.
[11/12/2014 03:05:42] Sir Scarfalot: you were at least decent enough to not avatarfag on the "mock the dead" thread
[11/12/2014 03:05:54] Sir Scarfalot: so I can respect that
[11/12/2014 03:05:59] Sir Scarfalot: not much, but it is something.
[11/12/2014 03:06:28] The Horned King: There it is

>>871

Innocence? I never said that. And if innocence means passivity in the face of tyranny and destruction, then I want no part of it.

>>882

[11/12/2014 03:06:29] The Horned King: [11 December 2014 01:34] Sephi Xarados - Bday soon!:

<<< I'd also like to admit that the original reason I decided to get into this war was because Admin announced that he might cancel the original game for the sequel.
[11/12/2014 03:06:32] Aryanne: I've not once avatarfagged. And I don't particularly care to "mock the dead". I care about winning a war. Thanks for that at least
[11/12/2014 03:07:20] The Horned King: Your supposed nobility is a lie, bow your head and accept that your principles were compromised.
[11/12/2014 03:07:22] Sir Scarfalot: that's hardly the case
[11/12/2014 03:07:31] Sir Scarfalot: no, we didn't want this war at all.
[11/12/2014 03:07:39] Aryanne: Your leader admitted it
[11/12/2014 03:07:43] The Horned King: Sephi, care to enlighten him?
[11/12/2014 03:07:47] Aryanne: We didn'[t make him say it
[11/12/2014 03:07:52] Sir Scarfalot: though I will admit that we did use Aryan to get to Leafy
[11/12/2014 03:07:53] Aryanne: Are you calling him a lier?
[11/12/2014 03:08:10] Sir Scarfalot: I'm saying that doesn't sound like Sephi
[11/12/2014 03:08:11] Aryanne: Ah more lies and manipulations
[11/12/2014 03:08:23] Sir Scarfalot: and also that it doesn't matter, even if it was.
[11/12/2014 03:08:28] Sir Scarfalot: intentions don't matter
[11/12/2014 03:08:31] Aryanne: I'm so glad I decided I wouln't take an alliances shit just because they;re bigger than me.
[11/12/2014 03:08:31] Sir Scarfalot: actions do
[11/12/2014 03:08:42] The Horned King: Your a Machavelian of the worst kind you know, I can respect Sephi at least for his honesty.
[11/12/2014 03:08:57] Sir Scarfalot: no.
[11/12/2014 03:09:00] Aryanne: yes
[11/12/2014 03:09:08] Sir Scarfalot: I am honest, despite whatever you want to believe
[11/12/2014 03:09:26] Sir Scarfalot: since you grip to that belief so hard, I cannot possibly deny it in a way that you'll accept.
[11/12/2014 03:09:27] Aryanne: You have lied quite a bit, slandered me on the boards, and you're lying right now
[11/12/2014 03:09:33] Sir Scarfalot: but I will NEVER bow to you.
[11/12/2014 03:09:45] Sir Scarfalot: yes, I have slandered you on the boards because we were at war
[11/12/2014 03:09:50] Aryanne: You're willing to risk the protection of the alliance you belong to?
[11/12/2014 03:09:59] Aryanne: You're close to losing a deal
[11/12/2014 03:10:17] Aryanne: And I have said nothing about you that wasn't true
[11/12/2014 03:10:17] * Sephi Xarados removed sir.scarfalot from this conversation. *
[11/12/2014 03:10:23] Sephi Xarados: I knew letting him in was a bad idea.
[11/12/2014 03:10:30] The Horned King: He's a moron you know

>>882

Hirohito. Lise.

I also have a screenshot of one of your naval units defending in one of Myrami's nations. During the NASA conflict, where you were 'neutral'.

And I have battle reports that prove you assaulted a nation meant to be picked up by a member of the Clients.

That's 3 incidents prior to Lise that I did not mention at the time, because I had quite simply forgotten.

Unfortunately I'm not at home and cannot image post, but I shall post my screens when I can.

>>884

You held my entire alliance, and a completely separate alliance responsible for the actions of two people.

I submit to you that either YOU are responsible for the actions of your allies, or that you are a bald-faced hypocrite and genocidal monster.

Which is it?

>>885
>Unfortunately I'm not at home and cannot image post, but I shall post my screens when I can.
It is unfortunate that you can't post the evidence. You've been very reliable with posting evidence in the past so I have no doubt you've got it.

I attacked Hirohito?
A single unit (Which was sent to that region as pickup of another nation I'm sure) counts as me…attacking unaligned players?

>And I have battle reports that prove you assaulted a nation meant to be picked up by a member of the Clients.
I'd love to see it, and I'd love to see the part where it shows they were an active player and not one of your nation farms.

>>886
Your alliance, along with PIBH, attacked and tried to wipe me out. But things didn't work out the way you wanted so you continue to cry about it months later.

>>887

Hirohito attacked an inactive player with excessive forces, which resulted in him getting a Burrozil… Which he never intended to keep. Our player did not even have a burrozil, and therefore his need was greater. We tried to offer deals, but were rebuffed.

>>889
That has something to do with me, how?

>>881
>Okay, you just proved you have no idea what you're talking about. At all. Schatten's activity checks happened over a week after the sham talks, and I was referring to Aryan's promise to continue his """"""activity checks"""""" against TKoE.

Except they were attacks against TKoE who had been a constant aggressor.

>I didn't actually start those talks. I was invited by Sephi, and I wanted to make sure that he wouldn't fold under the pressure. I took a strong stance, and because it wasn't what you wanted to hear, that makes me a bully and crybaby. Since your opinion is inherently reality.

Refer to Aryanne's posts below. You were aggressive at the worst possible time. Instead of voicing your complaints with the treaty you started attacking people's characters and showing that you were belligerent.

>>885

>Hirohito. Lise.

Your argument was against Aryanne stop backpeddaling.

>I also have a screenshot of one of your naval units defending in one of Myrami's nations. During the NASA conflict, where you were 'neutral'.

Even if that is true, it would be because both groups felt threatened by NASA. The guild was made because you were bullying them and they could no longer trust you. Also that is not bullying that is assisting another ally.

>And I have battle reports that prove you assaulted a nation meant to be picked up by a member of the Clients.

Do you have proof that there was public claim for this nation in the first place?

>That's 3 incidents prior to Lise that I did not mention at the time, because I had quite simply forgotten.

Hirohito is not Aryanne, assisting an ally is not bullying it is acting contract in your interest but not bullying. The third one needs evidence to substantiate.

>Unfortunately I'm not at home and cannot image post, but I shall post my screens when I can.

I'll be waiting

>>886

>You held my entire alliance, and a completely separate alliance responsible for the actions of two people.

Who were alliance leaders who declared war or attacked. Leaders who don't want to represent their alliance should not lead. YOUR ACTIONS AS A LEADER SHOULD REFLECT THIS OF YOUR ALLIANCE.

>I submit to you that either YOU are responsible for the actions of your allies, or that you are a bald-faced hypocrite and genocidal monster.

Leaders are responsible, not Aryanne.

>>887

Oh, I do indeed have proof that he was an active player. I also have the screenshots available; they survived a hard disk failure I had a couple months ago.

Go ahead and not believe it; after I post them you'll be calling "multifaggotry" and "photoshop". I can't prove anything to you because you will resist believing anything I say. Really, this argument is as pointless as the peace talks.

>>893
If it was a nation bread as a nation farm for your alliance. Especially if it was unaligned. Then I have no problem admitting that I attacked it. It was not your nation, and it was not an active player. If you wanted to keep it safe you'd have housed it behind your walls.

>>892
>>890


Aryan is a dominant member of MTVS, THK has acknowledged this. That means he IS responsible for those under him in the alliance AND their actions.

>MTVS felt threatened by NASA

Bullshit. Cloud Kicker approached them with an offer of military alliance if they helped him against Myrami, who had attacked MTVS before. The FotA had helped the MTVS as well against Myrami. The war was fought in no small part to PROTECT the MTVS, not bully them!

>>895
>Aryan is a dominant member of MTVS, THK has acknowledged this. That means he IS responsible for those under him in the alliance AND their actions.
Oh, okay, then you, Sephi and Dark Vessel are responsible for the "genocide" of both alliances.

>>894

The Followers never used nation 'farms'. Only single nations built by IRL friends, not that you'll believe it. The nation was in an alliance, actually, but not CoLC or FotA.

>inb4 'but you were a nation farm'
That was LBoS, the FotA had disbanded at that point. We were compelled to use tactics that we would not have, before. I won't apologize for this, since it was the only remaining chance for the survival of the game.

>>895
>Aryan is a dominant member of MTVS, THK has acknowledged this. That means he IS responsible for those under him in the alliance AND their actions.

He is not the leader though. He is not the one who makes the rules or defines the alliance. That is THK's job and responsibility.

>MTVS felt threatened by NASA

Nice job twisting my words

>Bullshit. Cloud Kicker approached them with an offer of military alliance if they helped him against Myrami, who had attacked MTVS before. The FotA had helped the MTVS as well against Myrami. The war was fought in no small part to PROTECT the MTVS, not bully them!

Except there had been growing discontent and hatred for both parties. There were already whisperings about ruining them.

>>896

We are indeed responsible for our actions.

But it was not our forces that were sent at casuals.

>>897
What about TyHachi? And TKoE who built and sold nations? You also built nations when the tide changed as you tried to hang on.

>>892

We responded to Aryan's attack on our member nation. And not the initial wave; that was sent before Lise joined us, I'm talking about the second wave that was sent when we made it clear we would defend Lise.

>>900

Ah, I had forgotten about Tyhachi. Okay, point.

>>898

So, since I am not the nominal leader of the FotA, I would not be responsible for the actions of, say, Sephi?

We share responsibility in the Followers. There is no formal hierarchy.

>>900

I remember now, TKoE did indeed build nations as a way of paying off his debts. Regrettable, but still a necessity.

>>895
>Bullshit. Cloud Kicker approached them with an offer of military alliance if they helped him against Myrami, who had attacked MTVS before. The FotA had helped the MTVS as well against Myrami. The war was fought in no small part to PROTECT the MTVS, not bully them!
Do you remember that one time when Cloud Kicker tried to leach off Myramis attack on THK to accumulate nations?
I do. I'd be sore about that too. Why would I trust Cloud after that?

>>899
Being a dominant member of your alliance, your actions speak for the alliance as a whole. You set a bad example.

>>902
11/12/2014 03:07:52] Sir Scarfalot: though I will admit that we did use Aryan to get to Leafy

You're a shitty person.

>>898

Only from DUMP, and specifically PIBH. The Followers would not have supported any actions against MTVS, back then.

>>903
You're actions are your own. My point though was that as a leader, you are really representative of your group. Everyone's actions reflect on the alliance but they also reflect on the leader not a specific player. Your actions represent Fota as do Sephi's, but your actions are not representative of TKoE's but they are representative of Sephi as he should be managing his alliance.

>>906
Except they were already planning around on how they could infiltrate and destroy MTVS with defenders.

>>905

We had approached Leafy already, and tried to explain the deteriorating political situation and why he should join the FotA. He thought that his alliance (one other guy besides himself) would have been enough to protect him.

Now, Sephi did say that you could send forces at Lise… However, I still insist that he did not promise you any kind of ownership over Lise. Leafy was convinced to accept our protection by the threat of your attacking forces.

>>907

That's not how the Followers work, though. Distributed responsibility, not leader/follower dynamics (name notwithstanding).


Honestly, I'm done with this thread. It was supposed to be about the current #dedgame, not the fall of the FotA. We got totally derailed, and for that (alone) I apologize.

I'll post the screenshots, then I'm done here. Expect them in 3 hours (I'm at a hospital, faggots).

>>909
>However, I still insist that he did not promise you any kind of ownership over Lise.
If not then he deliberately deceived me, like a sneaky jew. And so deserved to be wiped from existence.

>>910

Sephi sent you that message without thinking much about it.

*I* was the one that turned it into a deceit! And I would do it again!

>>909
>That's not how the Followers work, though. Distributed responsibility, not leader/follower dynamics (name notwithstanding).

You shouldn't be applying your system to other people's systems then.


>Honestly, I'm done with this thread. It was supposed to be about the current #dedgame, not the fall of the FotA. We got totally derailed, and for that (alone) I apologize.

All I did was address how your points were incorrect and was addressing the issues that made them so.

>I'll post the screenshots, then I'm done here. Expect them in 3 hours (I'm at a hospital, faggots).

Well hopefully you or whoever you're visiting gets the care they need.

>>911
You cost a lot of your allies their empires then. Sephi should thank you.

>>912

>caring

I… can only assume sincerity. I appreciate that. It seems to be in preciously short supply nowadays.

>>914
Just because I completely disagree with you doesn't mean I wish you foul on real life.

>>916

I'm not sure you so completely disagree with me, in reality. I haven't been communicating very well on this thread, and tempers are high. In any case, your well-wishes are appreciated ^^

Anyway, I've gotten home, I'll just go ahead and collect the promised screenshots of that one incident. Then I'm done with this thread.

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>>931

My question to all of this is whether Catlord did anything in response to the attacks? Did he never tell anyone? Did he even inform Aryanne that it was reserved?

>>925

>I'm not sure you so completely disagree with me, in reality. I haven't been communicating very well on this thread, and tempers are high. In any case, your well-wishes are appreciated ^^

Please don't assume. I don't agree with you or FotA and what you've done and it's left a very sore taste in my mouth.

>>932
When did that naval unit get there, do you have proof of that? 1 Defender is laughably small as well and I would like to remind people, when forces in the thousands were being sent.

>>957
I knew it had to either be you or Minty. Because you were very intelligent for an anon.

Also, I think I'm just going to stop avatar-ing for a while. I'm getting sick of the image limit 8Chan enforces for duplicate imagery.