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>CLOP The Compounds of Harmony

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 No.770[Last 50 Posts]

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 No.772

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 No.773

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Now, i'm sure a lot of folks know me. In spite of sending away all my resources before I stasised last, and being hit by krampus because admin's in the Guild's pocket, I did experiment with sounding out a few old inactives, thinking we might make things a fight.

A fair number did respond - wanting to help out, but feeling >CLOP itself wasn't really worth the trouble. Can't say I really disagree with their assessment at this point.

One particularly entertaining conversation was had with Rewrite, an old FFA hero.

My favourite part was the perfunctory "sounds like him".

 No.774

>>770
>Multiple accounts!
Look who's talking!

I was wondering how long it would take until you start another drama on the board.

 No.775

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>>774
>Look who's talking!
It's not exactly abuse if you're doing it to TRY and get banned.

But when you make a new account to avoid the consequences of your old actions, THAT is abuse.

 No.776

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>>775
>try to get banned
>bitches on board when he is until unbanned
>goes into an assmad frenzy when the people he was at war with when he left attack him
>accuses everyone of being a multifag in agrand conspiracy centered around him

 No.778

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>>770
Why did you delete your buildings in the Kebab? I didn't even get to send some troops.

I was too tired to build an army before the last war tick. I didn't expect that the party would be over before even the guild's first troops arrive at your nations.

 No.780

>>773
>proof

I haven't seen ANYTHING that looks like fucking proof and not speculations, and you've never posted it in here.

THK and Bugfucker know each other in real life, but I still think they probably aren't the same person.

And no, I did not think about you when I made Krampus hit everyone. I wanted to hit stasised players in general.

Truth be told, even when I banned the other account, I didn't know (or care) that it was you making it. I just saw "Oh look, some asshole trying to impersonate someone" and banned the IP.

The reason that the Guild and its allies have so much shit to make war with isn't cheating, it's because they can continually generate more and more of it, unopposed, with no limit. This is a design flaw fixed in the sequel.

 No.781

>>774
>>776
>Anons talking shit
Yeah, i'm surprised.

>>778
The guild ain't getting a damn thing from me.

>>780
You're either blind, or culpable.

Incompetent or guilty.

I'd say it's been a pleasure, but, well, you know.

 No.782

>>781

Stop this shit, including in messages. Even /pol/ saves its evidence in detail. If you really had convincing evidence that they were the same people then they would never have risen to power (again, if it's true).

Also, Guild and allies, if you nutstomp all your opposition like this then who's going to be left to play with you?

I never thought I'd say this, but I'm really considering a reset of >CLOP because apparently there isn't any real fighting left to be done.

 No.783

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>>781
>The guild ain't getting a damn thing from me.
Little Hoarse wasn't even your nation. :P


>Incompetent or guilty

Admin is not guilty, he's guild-y. Eh? Eh?

 No.784

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>>782
How about a second version of Clop? One that encourages the players to work together?
People can only have one nation so they are forced to trade resources (if you attack another player, you just get their resources). Przes could become useful because they are the only nations which can produce parts.

 No.785

>>782
We let them take the time to build up nations and supplies again, not our fault they lost two 7 nation empires within 3 days.

We've nearly finished cleaning house now though, one rat left to kill.

 No.786

>>784
>How about a second version of Clop? One that encourages the players to work together?

I know what you're trying to say but suggesting a "second version" while I'm in the fucking middle of coding the sequel is a real craw-sticker. Also a lot of >CLOP is empire-focused and I'd have to remove all of that. Interesting idea, though.

 No.787

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>>784
I see what you did there

 No.788

>>784
Who would you find to play this mystical version of CLOP?

>>774
>I was wondering how long it would take until you start another drama on the board.
Why would you even care that much?
Drama is this game's lifeblood. Without the drama, no one's paying attention.

>>770
>Donate today!
This is just unfair, Admins been putting buku time on Compounds. I'm pretty sure CLOP just runs itself now really.

>>785
Well, at least I don't have to just paranoidly assume the guild operates primarily under anon status.

>>782
> if you nutstomp all your opposition like this then who's going to be left to play with you?
Let them have their fun. This is the basic idea of fun right?
I mean, it's demonstrably fun for some archetypes. I mean, it's falling right in line with the Bartle Killer typing, which is kind of hilarious in a way.

4) A MUD with no players. The killers have killed/frightened off everyone else, and left to find some other MUD in which to ply their trade.

 No.789

>>788
>I'm pretty sure CLOP just runs itself now really.

Mostly, it's "run itself" for a long time now. My usual administrative activity is eyeballing the logins and running a query to find multifags.

 No.790

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>>782
Wait…

Badmin doing something *beneficial* to the players and not just for himself? Talk about rare as a fucking unicorn!

 No.791

>>788
Of course we primarily operate under anon, only 3 of our members are publicly known^^

 No.792

>>791

Make that four, numbnuts

 No.793

>>780

I'm making a post.

Stand by.

 No.794

>>793

This is probably the most useless post possible, almost as fucking retarded as messages I get saying "Can I ask you a question?"

 No.795

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>>793
This must be one heck of a wall of text.

 No.796

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>>795
>filename
Pic related

 No.797

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>>782
Oh yeah definitely. The game is almost completely tipped on one side and the current opposition is ineffective but never quits. At this point most have sided with the winning side because they feel that their side holds more merit on reason and ability and as of now, all that's left to witness is the continued failed attempts from the opposing force to the status quo. A reset might be able to actually change the dynamic since it's gone stale.

Heck I would rejoin for a wipe

 No.798

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Ding Dong! The Bitch is dead.

It's sad really. I always expected that if you did go down, you'd go down fighting at least. Not whinging about admin, cheaters and conspiracies. Throwing temper tantrums and just being an all round unbearable ass.

Take defeat with a little dignity please.

 No.799

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>>798
Oh hey, you're still here.
I thought you stopped watching this.

 No.800

>>798

Loli, if you really are any of the people he thinks you are, now would be an excellent time to gloat about it.

 No.801

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>>799>>799
PIBH died, you don't think I'd hear about that?

 No.802

>>801

Also, I've asked this before, but again: Why'd you have to fucking cheat? It sounded like you were getting bored but that's no reason to drag your own name through the mud. It was just weapons, which weren't the limiting factor in war anyway. Why the fuck couldn't you have just told me?

 No.804

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Oh no, gloating would be fully expected.
I just thought you'd gotten bored after you stopped appearing on the CLOP board. Though I presume someone told you of PIBH's downfall?

 No.805

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>>800
You're right, why not right, nobody can stop me now. I've totally been multifagging both THK and Aryan. I restarted this game with the sole purpose of killing PIBH because I was that anally devastated about losing that last war. AND I'VE FINALLY DONE IT. I R TEH GREETES

>>802
You want the truth?
We didn't even know about the cheat until after you hit our bits supply. (That was a royal pain in the ass btw, thanks for that). It annoyed us, and kinda fucked our war effort. We lost 40 odd billion bits between us.
I don't remember exactly the reasons he did, but our parts supplier decided to tell us how he'd been supplying us parts so cheap.

We figured, admin screwed us so why not take the opportunity to gain the upper hand?

>>803

>Though I presume someone told you of PIBH's downfall?
I got's connections~

 No.806

>>798
>>801
>>805
why do you even care?

you've been gone for like a year

 No.807

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>>794

I wanted to make sure I had everything that I needed. Properly formatted, and ready to roll. I had started this awhile ago, but this thread popped up and I wanted to be sure that I got in before my post could be considered necromancy.

>>795

Text?

Fuck text.

>Pic related

 No.808

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>>806
Loli was still around on the board for a while after that war indicating a margin of interest even after leaving.

Though wouldn't you want to return to mock your arch nemesis? Besides it's fairly clear that most people who leave clop still stay connected to some degree
Ie, PIBH, Loli, Bug, Draze, etc.

 No.809

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>>807

Yes, I conspired against Myrami, THK, and Aryan. I fully intended to build empires that could withstand their military capacity in order to make this game playable at all.

I do not apologize for this.

 No.810

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>>809

You wanted drama. You wanted war, Admin.

I am not PIBH. I failed where he, through dignity and strength succeeded.

I made the attempt, nonetheless. The only shame is in yielding to the 'inevitable' or 'winning' side.

And what have you won, exactly?

The markets are dead. Rebels are rampaging unchecked. Major players are entering stasis, never to be seen again.

You chose this, Badmin.

 No.811

>>806
>implying egotists don't like reveling in past glories

There's no way in fucking hell Loli could be Aryan or THK. He loves himself too much. The mentalities are too different.

>>807
>>809
>>810

>everything is on fire and everyone is dead and above it all an oligarchy sits supreme, working their will atop their joint throne of pony skulls and I'm to blame for all of it by patching exploits at the wrong time, and the only ones with any hope of a future are the ones who ascended


I was originally going to make a post about how I'm trying to build a game without regard to what might currently be going on in it, because that way lies madness and the exact kind of favoritism you're accusing me of, but I actually laughed for about a minute straight at the game dying as it had lived: in a fiery ball of drama and chaos.

I'm going back to work on Compounds war now.

 No.812

>>811

You haven't answered my question, nor have you denied my claims.

 No.813

>>808
>Loli was still around on the board for a while after that war indicating a margin of interest even after leaving.
so people gave pibb a hard time for saying Lolipop cared enough about the game to come back for revenge…

… when they've showed explicitly that they care enough about the game to come back for revenge?

 No.814

>>807
>>809
>>810

Well I just got my daily doseage of autism, thanks for that.

If you honestly want an answer on why the game is "dying" it's because theres no new players. Old players get bored and leave its the natural flow of a game, but without new members the system is out of whack what fixes that is advertising. If admin sticks a fresh ad up on Derpibooru or /mkp/ again the game will be back, but he's got the sequel now so don't count on that.

 No.815

>>814

You know, I did actually point that out. Thanks for the reply, though.

 No.816

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>>811
> He loves himself too much
You know I tried fucking myself before. I got to the anus but it's hard to stay half chub without going full erect.
I can suck myself off though~

 No.817

>>811

You know where I got that last image?

From >CLOP for losers's latest reset. Which, I might add, is *more alive* than this game.

YOU GOT BEAT BY RUMSOD.

 No.818

>>817

Interesting little substitution script, but B L O C is still alive.

Though I will admit the raging multifaggotry will kill it within a week

 No.819

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>>811
>>817
Not to mention, heidi did a very good job with Worlds at War.

>>818
Are you shitting me?

BLOC
BLOC
BLOC
BLOC

 No.820

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>>819
Aw, it didn't work…

 No.821

>>820

Have to put in the > before BLOC, otherwise it doesn't fire. I guess this is because 'bloc' is a legitimate word.

 No.822

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>>821
Oh, right, because > BLOC is the official title…

 No.823

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>>812

Which question? I don't think THK and Aryan are Bug and Loli.

>>814

I think advertising before the game was actually finished was a mistake with >CLOP. Let me get this game out of alpha and beta and then I'll consider going back to the original game.

>>816
Post a webm, it'll be the perfect capstone to this clusterfuck of a thread.

>>817
>YOU GOT BEAT BY RUMSOD.

Hardly! People ragequitting that shitheap don't get nearly as horrifically buttdevastated as this.

 No.824

>>823
>Admin forgot his name

 No.825

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>>823

(me, obviously, I keep having to remove my name to shitpost on other 8chan boards)

 No.826

>>807

Except the issues of nation building of members in MTVS is unrelated to your nation building.
In MTVS's case it was one of multufagging, to which admin did respond by promptly banning the accounts involved. In this case it was a response to your group specifically dedicating yourself to nation building instead of actually playing the game and building up your nations like your supposed to. Admin remedy to this was to extend the period before you can stasis as a counter and to make it more difficult to play the game in unintended ways.

Second the war was over for THK and no one was engaged in combat so the change was made. As for you, when could have admin made the change? He would have always had to do it while you were nation building because it was quite obvious that this would continue until dealt with. He implemented the action to stop a continuously used exploit as he did with Bug and Loli and the weapon copiers.

As for nation builders no one knew they were multufagging and you have no evidence that they were intentionally using them, meaning admin was unable to act until he discovered it happening and then he took action. You can make the argument that someone in the alliance knew about it and was the one to initiate it, but we cannot make such a claim without evidence.

>>809

You seem to also forget admin is a neutral body. He is nor going to take sides and help you with your "super secret plan".

I would also like to point out that your group is just at much as fast for the state of the game. The guild are all run in a state of oppression, meaning they tend to rely very little on the market. The people responsible for it are the ONES WHO KEEP STARTING FIGHTS. Your own declarations of constant war has hurt the game because you have drained so many steady sources of material and caused an imbalance. By attacking and bringing on their continuous wrath you have caused this imbalance.

Also these deaths mean nothing until you go into why they happen. PIBH's deaths happened by his own actions as well as some nations dying due to lack of competency or care. You can't blame everything on one party.

 No.827

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>>823

You don't "think" THK and Aryan are Bug and Loli.

You don't "think" so.

#reassuring

 No.828

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>>813
Except they haven't come back for revenge. No one has proved that. All we have evidence of is Loli returning to mock PIBH after he died.

 No.829

>>826
>In MTVS's case it was one of multufagging, to which admin did respond by promptly banning the accounts involved.

Thank you for this. Most people forget this part. I actually confronted THK about this a couple of times; he wasn't multifagging but people in his alliance were. I tossed around IP bans like candy.

>>827
>proving a negative on the Internet

If I worked for the NSA, would I really be here talking to you?


I know my job is pretty much the opposite of a peacebringer, but can't Sir_Scarf, Sephi, Myrami, THK, and Aryan kiss and make up by now?

 No.830

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>>827
Well, continue to grasp at desperate straws then while we have no evidence. Any sane person would always leave room for logical doubt as we can never fully know. But right now it's innocent until proven guilty and no one has proved anything.

 No.831

>>829
Oh how we wish this would happen but sadly the grudges run too deep to actually sit down and think about where we've gone wrong. Clop will be stuck in a perpetual cycle of a grudge match between them and the guild.

 No.832

>>826
>You seem to also forget admin is a neutral body.
http://pastebin.com/a242UL2F
daily reminder that admin was never neutral, he was always party to certain players' schemes

 No.833

>>829
>but can't Sir_Scarf, Sephi, Myrami, THK, and Aryan kiss and make up by now?

At a point We tried. But Scarf is an idiot, and he's bad at negotiations. We've had to put down these untermensch several times now….They're like cockroaches.

 No.834

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>>829
>I know my job is pretty much the opposite of a peacebringer, but can't Sir_Scarf, Sephi, Myrami, THK, and Aryan kiss and make up by now?

Aw, that's sweet. You think it's that easy.

>>831
Well, I was able to make peace with Myrami and Aryan some time ago. That's a step in the right direction, right?

>>833
Speak of the devil. How are you enjoying those resources?

 No.835

>>834
>Speak of the devil. How are you enjoying those resources?
Blew a lot of them getting rid of Schatten, and killing DV and PIBH. They were put to good use.

 No.836

>>827
You keep saying that, have you ever actually met Bug or Loli? Do you know anything about them at all besides that they used to play the game and cheated? Creepy obsession isn't anything new to this game but creepy obsession with people you've never spoken to might be a new one.

 No.837

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>>835
Yeah? Well, at least they served a purpose.

 No.838

>>832
Except it's perfectly fine to talk to a host of a game about the game. No where did admin start making changes or act in any way to alter the game. He commented on it, yes, but he never actually adjust or made an alteration that upset the balance. When he does do things, he does them for his own amusement.

 No.839

>>832
>knowing about conspiracies means that I'm actively participating in them

I mean I guess you could say I was because I kept the secrets, but at what point in that conversation did I offer to help them with it?

>>835

Aryan, I know that taking over everything is a major part of >CLOP. But if you keep focusing on cleaning out the untermenschen instead of bringing in more ubermenschen, you're going to eventually lord over a dead world.

 No.840

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>>780
>>808
>>823
>>826
>>827
>>836

HEY KIDS, WANNA SEE A DEAD BODY!?

 No.841

>>826

>Except the issues of nation building of members in MTVS is unrelated to your nation building.


No, I was a dedicated nation-builder, the same as Catlord (who even ADVERTISED his services on the board). I did nothing that had not been done, and extremely publicly.

Yet I was the only one to receive any penalties.

>War was over for THK


Actually, the complaints were made and the change announced *before* the troops even landed. Admin made the change far later. That is what I'm objecting to; the fact that when THK does 'lame' things, he is allowed the chance, but I am not.

>no evidence that multifaggotry was intentional


Do I *need* evidence for that? I don't think so, because I wasn't complaining about the *multifaggotry*. Right there, I was taking about the dedicated builders. Which you can't deny they were.

>My group equally at fault


We never attacked.

We sent *no* forces except to me and my other builder allies.

*ever*.

Sure, we probably WOULD have attacked the Guild when we got strong enough, but our most optimistic estimates had that at approximately mid-april, and realistic estimates at around October.

The Guild continued to send harrassment forces every week whenever I left stasis.

Furthermore, my rebellion would not have been necessary had the Guild not chosen to destroy my old alliance so thoroughly. Me, Sephi, TKoE, we were leaders and officers, and the Guild was within all rights and reason to destroy us….

But they genocided the entire alliance, along with the CoLC, and they tried *extremely* hard to do the same to DUMP. Genocide of that much the playerbase is what killed the game, not my building.

>Admin is a neutral body


Oh really. He's been shown to be completely inconsistent with how he interprets, implements, and enforces his rules. I can accept a margin of human error, but there comes a point when things get suspicious.

>not going to help you with your "super secret plan"


I was well aware of that. Which is why I didn't point out the reports from the shenanigans until we had to use the Sisters themselves; I thought he would get a kick out of seeing the way war ended up being waged. After all, he found the Guilds' way of dodging excessive empire sat (through giving nations to nationless players that aren't playing at all) quite hilarious.

Come to think of it, those are just as much transfers as any kind of building….

>deaths mean nothing until you go into why they happen

>lack of competency/care

You don't know that. But one way or another, those deaths *happened*. >CLOP is hemorrhaging players, and that is not going to realistically change.

>>829

I'm just poking fun at your completely unenthusiastic statement. No, I don't have *direct* evidence that they are or are not new accounts. But I can point out that the coincidences and similarities are getting significant.

Draze, for example. Why would he so rapidly trust THK and Aryan if he did not know them beforehand? Why would he not bring in Bug and Loli to fill out his alliance? Everyone is hurting for new members except for us, so what possible reason would there be for the pair of them to not return?

>>833

If you'll remember, your 'reasonable terms' included demands for us to:

Betray our friend
Humiliate ourselves by shitposting on our own alliance overview
Surrender everything we had accomplished
Give false confessions to our 'misconduct'

And you gave *no* credible assurances of any kind. That wasn't a deal, that wouldn't even have been a surrender; there was *literally* nothing in it for us. So, we might as well cost you a few extra million bits in troops to actually finish the job.

 No.842

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>>840
Oh hi there! I assume you're Bug?

 No.843

>Aryan, I know that taking over everything is a major part of >CLOP. But if you keep focusing on cleaning out the untermenschen instead of bringing in more ubermenschen, you're going to eventually lord over a dead world.
Good point, but what else can we do when we learn they're plotting a rebellion?

>>841
You came into negotiations half way through and cried like a baby until you were kicked.

>Betray our friend

What friend would that be, DV?
The one that declared war on me, independant of your alliance, or so Sephi says.
That's not betrayal really. He brought death on himself.

 No.844

>>841
>No, I was a dedicated nation-builder, the same as Catlord (who even ADVERTISED his services on the board). I did nothing that had not been done, and extremely publicly.

Yet I was the only one to receive any penalties.

Except you were using nation building as a cheap attempt to grasp power in a war instead of using it as a tool of expansion and growth(Which was also disliked but allowed).

>Actually, the complaints were made and the change announced *before* the troops even landed. Admin made the change far later. That is what I'm objecting to; the fact that when THK does 'lame' things, he is allowed the chance, but I am not.


You failed to address my point about how this action would have continued as you all would have kept losing and using the exploit.

>We never attacked.


You countless retold your plans to fight and rebuild to fight though and this is what brought the wrath upon you.

>Sure, we probably WOULD have attacked the Guild when we got strong enough, but our most optimistic estimates had that at approximately mid-april, and realistic estimates at around October.


Except like I said, you couldn't hold your tongue. It was a preventive action because they noticed your nation building and your consent inability to forgive and forget, or at least act like it.

>The Guild continued to send harrassment forces every week whenever I left stasis.


See above points.

>Furthermore, my rebellion would not have been necessary had the Guild not chosen to destroy my old alliance so thoroughly. Me, Sephi, TKoE, we were leaders and officers, and the Guild was within all rights and reason to destroy us….


Except Sephi offered to disband. You're the one who embarrassed him in the peace talks by insulting the person of power and making Sephi feel like he had to compensate. They said it was uneasily but Sephi still disbanded the alliance instead of just adding the video like asked.

>But they genocided the entire alliance, along with the CoLC, and they tried *extremely* hard to do the same to DUMP. Genocide of that much the playerbase is what killed the game, not my building.


My point was that the game is in this state because you all continuously drained the resource pull from active players and your constant warfare has caused a rise and demand without any way to return it to normal.
The player base was also killed because leaders of said alliance attacked or offered support in the war against the opposing force. By acting in such a manner they brought the attack onto their whole alliance.

 No.845

>>841
>giving nations to nationless players that aren't playing at all

I'm going to take this out of the game right now, come to think of it. It's lame bullshit too if they'll never come back.

 No.846

>>845

(and no one ever seemed to use it 'legitimately', to give a genuinely messed up player an advantage)

 No.847

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Alright, I've done enough here. In order of how awesome it would be if they happened, by goals were:

1. Destroy the Guild
2. Achieve parity with the Guild
3. Survive alongside the Guild
4. Do something awesome.

#3 has been successful since Stonewall Schatten, and #4 has been a thing for a long time now. Kind of a shame that the details of the more awesome operations are still classified, like destroying defenderfags with Sisters or building precise defense forces to wipe only /specific/ forces, not entire attacking waves.

We've learned and accomplished a lot in these past weeks, and I don't regret a thing. Not even that, Dovesy.

>Pic


This is the best screenshot we could take of the attack forces finally arrayed against Schatten during his final ascent.

 No.848

>>841
>Oh really. He's been shown to be completely inconsistent with how he interprets, implements, and enforces his rules. I can accept a margin of human error, but there comes a point when things get suspicious.

And your proof is…?

>Come to think of it, those are just as much transfers as any kind of building….


Now you're delusional. Giving away spoils of war is not nation building. You're still the ones building and creating the exploit.

>You don't know that. But one way or another, those deaths *happened*. >CLOP is hemorrhaging players, and that is not going to realistically change.


Except you don't either. Clop is losing players but you cannot simply equate it to being because of X reason. I'm simply stating alternative possibilities which could also be true or false, just as your own assertion.

 No.849

>>782

If you reset >Clop, I'm gone.

 No.850

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>>845

>Admin does something based


Huh. Well, there we go, a problem was solved. Sometimes you *do* come through ^^

Brohoof? /)

 No.851

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>>849
Aww, and just as you finally earned enough money through bribery to rebuild the empire you lost in a drunken rage, too.

 No.852

>>850

(\

I was going to leave it in because I figured that the disadvantages would outweigh the advantages, but it is a way of sidestepping limits and in an environment of total domination like this one, it only lets the overlords secure it further, far more than designed.

>>843
>rebellion

Unfortunately, this is called "playing the game"…

I think I need to implement a complements-like mechanic for >CLOP, or maybe gradual resource decay, even natural disasters probably aren't gonna do it.

I should have done this earlier but people whined and cried when I suggested it.

Later. After Compounds is in full swing.

 No.853

>>852
Or a disaster every X days, can still be manual.

 No.854

>>848

>Delusional


Actually, admin agreed with me on that particular point.

Actually, one of our even lamer ideas involved using that mechanic to undo ascension. Fortunately we never needed that one, and it was *really* stupid anyway; I'm glad we never touched it.

>And your proof is…?


Read my pictures; I spent over half an hour on those things m8.

And yeah, I'm sure it is possible that there's been an over 200% upswing in rebel activity due to a wave of incompetence that started 3 days ago.

Or people are just leaving. Correlation does not imply causation, after all. But the *point* is that at this rate, there won't be too many players left *at all*. Which is a problem, and I can't see a solution.

I tried to make a new force that could stand against our enemies in order to protect and nurture new players… but that idea's been cut down.

>reset


A reset… might work? We considered pitching the idea, but the mechanics of >CLOP are too well understood at this point; there would need to be *massive* changes in the very structure and concepts of >CLOP to prevent the next game from being >NationBuilder. Personally, I favor nations only being available for capture after they've been in the game a month, just like the graveyard.

THAT will stop building, I assure you :P

 No.855

>>852
Crushing rebellions as they brew like babies being smothered to death in the cradle is also playing the game. Especially considering Aryan likes to play the gestapo officer^^

 No.856

>>855

My rebellion held for over a month. Just saying.

Gtg, I need to do a thing. I'll be back though.

 No.857

>>856
>held out for over a month
>only 3 days of fighting in which one side completely humiliates the other

Uwotm8?

 No.858

>>854

Some of them might be going to play Compounds, or sitting forever waiting for an alliance to play Compounds with.

I can't let this drama distract me, i gotta get the fuck back to work

 No.859

>>840

But I have to know, is this actually Bugfucker?

 No.860

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>>852
>I think I need to implement a complements-like mechanic for >CLOP, or maybe gradual resource decay, even natural disasters probably aren't gonna do it.

Well, when you have someone like Myrami with his resource shelters, I came to that conclusion long before you did.

>>853
Again, Myrami will be invulnerable to this.

>>859
No. The real one seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. I just wanted to see how people would react to a tyrant barging in and making a Hellsing Abridged reference.

 No.861

>>854

>Actually, admin agreed with me on that particular point.


They're not the same though. Yes they're both exploits but they're of different nature and now both have been addressed fairly.

>Read my pictures; I spent over half an hour on those things m8.


I did and I addressed them

And yeah, I'm sure it is possible that there's been an over 200% upswing in rebel activity due to a wave of incompetence that started 3 days ago.

I never said one reason was the full explanation either. Once again, possibilities.

>Or people are just leaving. Correlation does not imply causation, after all. But the *point* is that at this rate, there won't be too many players left *at all*. Which is a problem, and I can't see a solution.


Your point was that the guild is entirely responsible for this. I agree that there is an issue but don't agree on the source.

 No.862

>>860
>The real one seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.
Yeah, not posting since he was accused of being THK.

Funny that.

 No.863

>>856
Oh finally. I was getting tired of this myself

 No.864

>>862
I don't think I've ever seen him post in the first place so it'd be more suspicious if he suddenly start posting again I would think.

 No.865

>>862
I don't think I ever saw him post anyway so I wouldn't exactly think him continuing to not post is a sign of anything.

 No.866

>>829

> THK/Sephi/Scarf/Myra/Aryan orgy


….not sure if unf, but damn would that be a mess XP

 No.867

File: 1424129973785.png (166.67 KB, 230x366, 115:183, H3INIoD.png)

>>866
>THK
Oh fuck no, I'm not a necrophiliac!
>Aryan
Or an antisemitic!

 No.868

>>843

TKoE. You wanted us to throw him to the wolves and promise to send him no resources.

Fuck that noise, says I, especially considering you weren't going to give us anything whatsoever anyway.

What's the point of negotiation if you were going to slaughter us regardless? And don't even deny it; we're long past *that* excuse.

 No.869

>>868
>TKoE. You wanted us to throw him to the wolves and promise to send him no resources.

It was a peace treaty which meant you were to make PEACE. Not continue to support the war by resources.

>Fuck that noise, says I, especially considering you weren't going to give us anything whatsoever anyway.


Except they were giving you the chance to live in peace and try again.

>What's the point of negotiation if you were going to slaughter us regardless? And don't even deny it; we're long past *that* excuse.


They only slaughtered you because you disingenuous said you wanted peace and then immediately planned to start war again behind their back.

 No.870

>>857

The history of the rebellion:

1. FotA and CoLC ded. Refugees join FFA and DUMP. Choose to continue to play game, despite seemingly impossible odds.
2. Schatten sends activity check at MTVS target. THK and Aryan respond by throwing everything at him.
3. Schatten asks alliance for help. I make a new skype chat room and start adding people.
4. PIBH and Cloud Kicker's stockpiles prove decisive, and Schatten begins ascent, sooner than he wanted to but still as planned. Still need to hold for several war ticks.
6. Schatten's Stonewall defense against the legendarily autistic splitoff forces that overflowed the reports
7. Ascent, 100k ded THK/Aryan doods. MTVS forced to retreat.
8. Group exists, alicorns available to defend us. Plans made, group repurposed to coordinate secret build/transfer plans in order to capitalize on what we believed to be a temporary respite. I build saddles for the oil-dependent and burros for the sugar-dependent.
9. Schatten's final ascent. We brace for incoming… And are surprised, because apparently the secret was safe. MTVS had no idea what was up, so we keep on building, stockpiling, preparing.
10. Month goes by, no attacks. We're all 'wat'.
11. DV picks up the nations he was building for himself. Confidence rises, I expand the rebellion.
12. Last week happens.

 No.871

>>870
You know, calling it a rebellion isn't helping your case about you all being innocent.

 No.872

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>>823
>Post a webm, it'll be the perfect capstone to this clusterfuck of a thread.
Now why would I want to cap such a beautiful cesspool of shit and autism?

>>870
How does it feel getting
#REKT
spoiler]Twice[/spoiler]
spoiler]?[/spoiler]

 No.873

>>869

>peace treaty


No, that's called a surrender. And I didn't like their terms, so I didn't surrender.

>chance to live in peace and try again


How well did the last peace deal with these guys turn out, again? We GAVE peace its chance. Myra fucked that up by negotiating in bad faith. I decided to trust in feigned inactivity and secrecy where Myra's word would not suffice. And it nearly worked, while living under MTVS would never have. They'd have kept """"activity checking"""" me and my friends until they exploded from sheer autism.

>lying about wanting peace


No, we did want peace. They didn't offer sufficient terms, I told them so, and THEN… nothing. No plans were made until they attacked Schatten. Weeks later.

How the fuck is that 'immediate'? We did negotiate in good faith. I decided to not trust them since, well, they can't be trusted. In case you haven't noticed. I didn't break any promises.

 No.874

>>872

Not as terrible as screwing up a spoiler twice :^)

 No.875

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>>874
I've heard a lot about you. Is it true your asshole is permanently gaped 10 inches in diameter?

 No.876

>>871

Didn't become a rebellion until long after Schatten ascended. We really just wanted to go down fighting, in the beginning.

But THK can't into sat, so rebels appeared. Should have remembered to cupcake after burning nations :P

 No.877

>>875

>heard a lot about you


Loli-Senpai noticed me~~

 No.878

>>873
>No, that's called a surrender. And I didn't like their terms, so I didn't surrender.

One you had no leverage to begin with to really negotiate. It was a great offer that would have left Fota intact and fine. You're the one who made a spectacle of yourself and ruined that.

>How well did the last peace deal with these guys turn out, again? We GAVE peace its chance. Myra fucked that up by negotiating in bad faith. I decided to trust in feigned inactivity and secrecy where Myra's word would not suffice. And it nearly worked, while living under MTVS would never have. They'd have kept """"activity checking"""" me and my friends until they exploded from sheer autism.


The only ones activity checking at that point were people from FFA and Schatten.

No>, we did want peace. They didn't offer sufficient terms, I told them so, and THEN… nothing.

Because you acted like an arrogant prick and insulted Aryanne when they were trying to make peace. You ruined the peace talk.

>How the fuck is that 'immediate'? We did negotiate in good faith. I decided to not trust them since, well, they can't be trusted.


Then why even try to negotiate? All you did is get egg on your face for exploding and ruining the talk right as peace was to be made. You showed your ass and made a fool of yourself and your Alliance and only caused further pain to them.

 No.879

>>878

Costing Aryan even a single bit would have at least been SOMETHING. I have NO confidence that any peace treaty would have been held to in ANY WAY.

There is no assurance the Guild can make that I shall value above a good bottle of piss.

 No.880

>>879
Then you had no reason to make a grasp at peace and any attempt to do so would have failed because you would not trust.

 No.881

>>878

Okay, you just proved you have no idea what you're talking about. At all. Schatten's activity checks happened over a week after the sham talks, and I was referring to Aryan's promise to continue his """"""activity checks"""""" against TKoE.

I didn't actually start those talks. I was invited by Sephi, and I wanted to make sure that he wouldn't fold under the pressure. I took a strong stance, and because it wasn't what you wanted to hear, that makes me a bully and crybaby. Since your opinion is inherently reality.

There really was nothing productive about the talks, though, I agree.

 No.882

>>881
I'll just drop the peace talk from the moment you were invited. For anyone bored enough to read it.

[11/12/2014 02:57:46] Sephi Xarados: Okay, apparently Scarf has some counter-offers
[11/12/2014 02:57:52] * Sephi Xarados added sir.scarfalot *
[11/12/2014 02:58:08] sir.scarfalot: hello
[11/12/2014 02:58:18] Aryanne: Ello
[11/12/2014 02:58:27] Aryanne: Alright shoot.
[11/12/2014 02:58:30] sir.scarfalot: TKoE has done NOTHING wrong.
[11/12/2014 02:58:39] sir.scarfalot: not since he became a Follower, at any rate.
[11/12/2014 02:58:46] Aryanne: That doesn't matter to me
[11/12/2014 02:58:57] sir.scarfalot: well, it does to me, since denouncing him would be a lie.
[11/12/2014 02:59:02] Aryanne: Short of running his mouth off constantly, I just don't like him
[11/12/2014 02:59:03] sir.scarfalot: there is nothing to denounce.
[11/12/2014 02:59:24] Aryanne: You're not really in a position to argue here
[11/12/2014 02:59:32] sir.scarfalot: argue?
[11/12/2014 02:59:38] sir.scarfalot: are you threatening me still?
[11/12/2014 02:59:52] The Horned King: You have entirely reasonable terms, turning down what we negotiated here would be reckless and lead to unnecessary continued warfare.
[11/12/2014 02:59:52] sir.scarfalot: you STILL insist on making us leave the game.
[11/12/2014 02:59:53] Aryanne: If you insist on continuing the war then yes i am
[11/12/2014 03:00:14] sir.scarfalot: the song
[11/12/2014 03:00:19] sir.scarfalot: what is it, exactly?
[11/12/2014 03:00:26] Sephi Xarados: It's a German marching song.
[11/12/2014 03:00:33] The Horned King: German marching song about a flower and a girl
[11/12/2014 03:00:41] Aryanne: You know. You lied about me on the board several times, I don't care too much about your opinions
[11/12/2014 03:00:48] Sephi Xarados: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc-DgRO1SrQ
[11/12/2014 03:01:07] sir.scarfalot: have I.
[11/12/2014 03:01:11] Aryanne: Yes
[11/12/2014 03:01:33] sir.scarfalot: hmf
[11/12/2014 03:02:04] sir.scarfalot: you've lied as well.
[11/12/2014 03:02:11] Aryanne: >Aryan has bullied the Followers for far longer than the incident with Lise that sparked the open hostilities. He has not respected our wishes, interests, or ideals, and yet we were COMPLETELY patient. Despite long provocation, we were able to maintain the peace.
[11/12/2014 03:02:28] Aryanne: Point to one altrucations between us before this incident
[11/12/2014 03:02:39] sir.scarfalot: Emperor Hirohito
[11/12/2014 03:02:48] Aryanne: >Aryan has bullied the Followers for far longer than the incident with Lise that sparked the open hostilities. He has not respected our wishes, interests, or ideals, and yet we were COMPLETELY patient. Despite long provocation, we were able to maintain the peace
[11/12/2014 03:02:54] The Horned King: Had nothing to do with Aryan
[11/12/2014 03:02:55] sir.scarfalot: and the constant attacks on all of the unaligned players in the game.
[11/12/2014 03:03:03] The Horned King: Nothing to do with the followers
[11/12/2014 03:03:15] Aryanne: Name one other unaligned player I attacked then
[11/12/2014 03:03:17] The Horned King: If I might
[11/12/2014 03:03:44] sir.scarfalot: yes?
[11/12/2014 03:03:49] The Horned King: One moment
[11/12/2014 03:05:12] Sir Scarfalot: actually
[11/12/2014 03:05:20] Sir Scarfalot: I do want to say something to you, aryan
[11/12/2014 03:05:27] The Horned King: Having trouble finding it now
[11/12/2014 03:05:28] Aryanne: Go ahead.
[11/12/2014 03:05:42] Sir Scarfalot: you were at least decent enough to not avatarfag on the "mock the dead" thread
[11/12/2014 03:05:54] Sir Scarfalot: so I can respect that
[11/12/2014 03:05:59] Sir Scarfalot: not much, but it is something.
[11/12/2014 03:06:28] The Horned King: There it is

 No.883

>>871

Innocence? I never said that. And if innocence means passivity in the face of tyranny and destruction, then I want no part of it.

 No.884

>>882

[11/12/2014 03:06:29] The Horned King: [11 December 2014 01:34] Sephi Xarados - Bday soon!:

<<< I'd also like to admit that the original reason I decided to get into this war was because Admin announced that he might cancel the original game for the sequel.
[11/12/2014 03:06:32] Aryanne: I've not once avatarfagged. And I don't particularly care to "mock the dead". I care about winning a war. Thanks for that at least
[11/12/2014 03:07:20] The Horned King: Your supposed nobility is a lie, bow your head and accept that your principles were compromised.
[11/12/2014 03:07:22] Sir Scarfalot: that's hardly the case
[11/12/2014 03:07:31] Sir Scarfalot: no, we didn't want this war at all.
[11/12/2014 03:07:39] Aryanne: Your leader admitted it
[11/12/2014 03:07:43] The Horned King: Sephi, care to enlighten him?
[11/12/2014 03:07:47] Aryanne: We didn'[t make him say it
[11/12/2014 03:07:52] Sir Scarfalot: though I will admit that we did use Aryan to get to Leafy
[11/12/2014 03:07:53] Aryanne: Are you calling him a lier?
[11/12/2014 03:08:10] Sir Scarfalot: I'm saying that doesn't sound like Sephi
[11/12/2014 03:08:11] Aryanne: Ah more lies and manipulations
[11/12/2014 03:08:23] Sir Scarfalot: and also that it doesn't matter, even if it was.
[11/12/2014 03:08:28] Sir Scarfalot: intentions don't matter
[11/12/2014 03:08:31] Aryanne: I'm so glad I decided I wouln't take an alliances shit just because they;re bigger than me.
[11/12/2014 03:08:31] Sir Scarfalot: actions do
[11/12/2014 03:08:42] The Horned King: Your a Machavelian of the worst kind you know, I can respect Sephi at least for his honesty.
[11/12/2014 03:08:57] Sir Scarfalot: no.
[11/12/2014 03:09:00] Aryanne: yes
[11/12/2014 03:09:08] Sir Scarfalot: I am honest, despite whatever you want to believe
[11/12/2014 03:09:26] Sir Scarfalot: since you grip to that belief so hard, I cannot possibly deny it in a way that you'll accept.
[11/12/2014 03:09:27] Aryanne: You have lied quite a bit, slandered me on the boards, and you're lying right now
[11/12/2014 03:09:33] Sir Scarfalot: but I will NEVER bow to you.
[11/12/2014 03:09:45] Sir Scarfalot: yes, I have slandered you on the boards because we were at war
[11/12/2014 03:09:50] Aryanne: You're willing to risk the protection of the alliance you belong to?
[11/12/2014 03:09:59] Aryanne: You're close to losing a deal
[11/12/2014 03:10:17] Aryanne: And I have said nothing about you that wasn't true
[11/12/2014 03:10:17] * Sephi Xarados removed sir.scarfalot from this conversation. *
[11/12/2014 03:10:23] Sephi Xarados: I knew letting him in was a bad idea.
[11/12/2014 03:10:30] The Horned King: He's a moron you know

 No.885

>>882

Hirohito. Lise.

I also have a screenshot of one of your naval units defending in one of Myrami's nations. During the NASA conflict, where you were 'neutral'.

And I have battle reports that prove you assaulted a nation meant to be picked up by a member of the Clients.

That's 3 incidents prior to Lise that I did not mention at the time, because I had quite simply forgotten.

Unfortunately I'm not at home and cannot image post, but I shall post my screens when I can.

 No.886

>>884

You held my entire alliance, and a completely separate alliance responsible for the actions of two people.

I submit to you that either YOU are responsible for the actions of your allies, or that you are a bald-faced hypocrite and genocidal monster.

Which is it?

 No.887

>>885
>Unfortunately I'm not at home and cannot image post, but I shall post my screens when I can.
It is unfortunate that you can't post the evidence. You've been very reliable with posting evidence in the past so I have no doubt you've got it.

I attacked Hirohito?
A single unit (Which was sent to that region as pickup of another nation I'm sure) counts as me…attacking unaligned players?

>And I have battle reports that prove you assaulted a nation meant to be picked up by a member of the Clients.

I'd love to see it, and I'd love to see the part where it shows they were an active player and not one of your nation farms.

 No.888

>>886
Your alliance, along with PIBH, attacked and tried to wipe me out. But things didn't work out the way you wanted so you continue to cry about it months later.

 No.889

>>887

Hirohito attacked an inactive player with excessive forces, which resulted in him getting a Burrozil… Which he never intended to keep. Our player did not even have a burrozil, and therefore his need was greater. We tried to offer deals, but were rebuffed.

 No.890

>>889
That has something to do with me, how?

 No.891

>>881
>Okay, you just proved you have no idea what you're talking about. At all. Schatten's activity checks happened over a week after the sham talks, and I was referring to Aryan's promise to continue his """"""activity checks"""""" against TKoE.

Except they were attacks against TKoE who had been a constant aggressor.

>I didn't actually start those talks. I was invited by Sephi, and I wanted to make sure that he wouldn't fold under the pressure. I took a strong stance, and because it wasn't what you wanted to hear, that makes me a bully and crybaby. Since your opinion is inherently reality.


Refer to Aryanne's posts below. You were aggressive at the worst possible time. Instead of voicing your complaints with the treaty you started attacking people's characters and showing that you were belligerent.

>>885

>Hirohito. Lise.


Your argument was against Aryanne stop backpeddaling.

>I also have a screenshot of one of your naval units defending in one of Myrami's nations. During the NASA conflict, where you were 'neutral'.


Even if that is true, it would be because both groups felt threatened by NASA. The guild was made because you were bullying them and they could no longer trust you. Also that is not bullying that is assisting another ally.

>And I have battle reports that prove you assaulted a nation meant to be picked up by a member of the Clients.


Do you have proof that there was public claim for this nation in the first place?

>That's 3 incidents prior to Lise that I did not mention at the time, because I had quite simply forgotten.


Hirohito is not Aryanne, assisting an ally is not bullying it is acting contract in your interest but not bullying. The third one needs evidence to substantiate.

>Unfortunately I'm not at home and cannot image post, but I shall post my screens when I can.


I'll be waiting

 No.892

>>886

>You held my entire alliance, and a completely separate alliance responsible for the actions of two people.


Who were alliance leaders who declared war or attacked. Leaders who don't want to represent their alliance should not lead. YOUR ACTIONS AS A LEADER SHOULD REFLECT THIS OF YOUR ALLIANCE.

>I submit to you that either YOU are responsible for the actions of your allies, or that you are a bald-faced hypocrite and genocidal monster.


Leaders are responsible, not Aryanne.

 No.893

>>887

Oh, I do indeed have proof that he was an active player. I also have the screenshots available; they survived a hard disk failure I had a couple months ago.

Go ahead and not believe it; after I post them you'll be calling "multifaggotry" and "photoshop". I can't prove anything to you because you will resist believing anything I say. Really, this argument is as pointless as the peace talks.

 No.894

>>893
If it was a nation bread as a nation farm for your alliance. Especially if it was unaligned. Then I have no problem admitting that I attacked it. It was not your nation, and it was not an active player. If you wanted to keep it safe you'd have housed it behind your walls.

 No.895

>>892
>>890


Aryan is a dominant member of MTVS, THK has acknowledged this. That means he IS responsible for those under him in the alliance AND their actions.

>MTVS felt threatened by NASA


Bullshit. Cloud Kicker approached them with an offer of military alliance if they helped him against Myrami, who had attacked MTVS before. The FotA had helped the MTVS as well against Myrami. The war was fought in no small part to PROTECT the MTVS, not bully them!

 No.896

>>895
>Aryan is a dominant member of MTVS, THK has acknowledged this. That means he IS responsible for those under him in the alliance AND their actions.
Oh, okay, then you, Sephi and Dark Vessel are responsible for the "genocide" of both alliances.

 No.897

>>894

The Followers never used nation 'farms'. Only single nations built by IRL friends, not that you'll believe it. The nation was in an alliance, actually, but not CoLC or FotA.

>inb4 'but you were a nation farm'

That was LBoS, the FotA had disbanded at that point. We were compelled to use tactics that we would not have, before. I won't apologize for this, since it was the only remaining chance for the survival of the game.

 No.898

>>895
>Aryan is a dominant member of MTVS, THK has acknowledged this. That means he IS responsible for those under him in the alliance AND their actions.

He is not the leader though. He is not the one who makes the rules or defines the alliance. That is THK's job and responsibility.

>MTVS felt threatened by NASA


Nice job twisting my words

>Bullshit. Cloud Kicker approached them with an offer of military alliance if they helped him against Myrami, who had attacked MTVS before. The FotA had helped the MTVS as well against Myrami. The war was fought in no small part to PROTECT the MTVS, not bully them!


Except there had been growing discontent and hatred for both parties. There were already whisperings about ruining them.

 No.899

>>896

We are indeed responsible for our actions.

But it was not our forces that were sent at casuals.

 No.900

>>897
What about TyHachi? And TKoE who built and sold nations? You also built nations when the tide changed as you tried to hang on.

 No.901

File: 1424137247070.gif (Spoiler Image, 213.58 KB, 650x450, 13:9, 02453.gif)

Pic related

 No.902

>>892

We responded to Aryan's attack on our member nation. And not the initial wave; that was sent before Lise joined us, I'm talking about the second wave that was sent when we made it clear we would defend Lise.

 No.903

>>900

Ah, I had forgotten about Tyhachi. Okay, point.

>>898

So, since I am not the nominal leader of the FotA, I would not be responsible for the actions of, say, Sephi?

We share responsibility in the Followers. There is no formal hierarchy.

 No.904

>>900

I remember now, TKoE did indeed build nations as a way of paying off his debts. Regrettable, but still a necessity.

 No.905

>>895
>Bullshit. Cloud Kicker approached them with an offer of military alliance if they helped him against Myrami, who had attacked MTVS before. The FotA had helped the MTVS as well against Myrami. The war was fought in no small part to PROTECT the MTVS, not bully them!
Do you remember that one time when Cloud Kicker tried to leach off Myramis attack on THK to accumulate nations?
I do. I'd be sore about that too. Why would I trust Cloud after that?

>>899
Being a dominant member of your alliance, your actions speak for the alliance as a whole. You set a bad example.

>>902
11/12/2014 03:07:52] Sir Scarfalot: though I will admit that we did use Aryan to get to Leafy

You're a shitty person.

 No.906

>>898

Only from DUMP, and specifically PIBH. The Followers would not have supported any actions against MTVS, back then.

 No.907

>>903
You're actions are your own. My point though was that as a leader, you are really representative of your group. Everyone's actions reflect on the alliance but they also reflect on the leader not a specific player. Your actions represent Fota as do Sephi's, but your actions are not representative of TKoE's but they are representative of Sephi as he should be managing his alliance.

 No.908

>>906
Except they were already planning around on how they could infiltrate and destroy MTVS with defenders.

 No.909

>>905

We had approached Leafy already, and tried to explain the deteriorating political situation and why he should join the FotA. He thought that his alliance (one other guy besides himself) would have been enough to protect him.

Now, Sephi did say that you could send forces at Lise… However, I still insist that he did not promise you any kind of ownership over Lise. Leafy was convinced to accept our protection by the threat of your attacking forces.

>>907

That's not how the Followers work, though. Distributed responsibility, not leader/follower dynamics (name notwithstanding).


Honestly, I'm done with this thread. It was supposed to be about the current #dedgame, not the fall of the FotA. We got totally derailed, and for that (alone) I apologize.

I'll post the screenshots, then I'm done here. Expect them in 3 hours (I'm at a hospital, faggots).

 No.910

>>909
>However, I still insist that he did not promise you any kind of ownership over Lise.
If not then he deliberately deceived me, like a sneaky jew. And so deserved to be wiped from existence.

 No.911

>>910

Sephi sent you that message without thinking much about it.

*I* was the one that turned it into a deceit! And I would do it again!

 No.912

>>909
>That's not how the Followers work, though. Distributed responsibility, not leader/follower dynamics (name notwithstanding).

You shouldn't be applying your system to other people's systems then.


>Honestly, I'm done with this thread. It was supposed to be about the current #dedgame, not the fall of the FotA. We got totally derailed, and for that (alone) I apologize.


All I did was address how your points were incorrect and was addressing the issues that made them so.

>I'll post the screenshots, then I'm done here. Expect them in 3 hours (I'm at a hospital, faggots).


Well hopefully you or whoever you're visiting gets the care they need.

 No.913

>>911
You cost a lot of your allies their empires then. Sephi should thank you.

 No.914

>>912

>caring


I… can only assume sincerity. I appreciate that. It seems to be in preciously short supply nowadays.

 No.916

>>914
Just because I completely disagree with you doesn't mean I wish you foul on real life.

 No.925

>>916

I'm not sure you so completely disagree with me, in reality. I haven't been communicating very well on this thread, and tempers are high. In any case, your well-wishes are appreciated ^^

Anyway, I've gotten home, I'll just go ahead and collect the promised screenshots of that one incident. Then I'm done with this thread.

 No.927

File: 1424159880169.png (33.41 KB, 814x826, 407:413, Aryan_Evidence.png)

The screenshots, not that they particularly matter:

Chips98 had a nation. Obviously it was a build order, nobody makes the DNA facility alone and sits on it for noob week unless they're building. I wanted to know who he was building it for. He denied that it was for anyone, so I went ahead and sent some defenders.

I probably overdid the equipment, but w/e.

 No.928

File: 1424160083581.png (5.88 KB, 988x149, 988:149, Aryan_Receipt.png)

>>927

At the time, Nation_Names_Underscore was in the CoLC. Since this guy was in his own little alliance, I figured the MTVS would send their usual """activity check""". Therefore, I kept my defenders there, so I would have direct and clear evidence of it.

 No.929

File: 1424160279187.png (20.15 KB, 1127x213, 1127:213, Aryan_Thief.png)

>>928

As I had predicted…

Both Aryan and Nation_Names_Underscore sent forces at the same time, to the same place. Underscore with but a limited pickup force, Aryan with 300, which at the time was very significant.

I kept these screenshots backed up, since I had figured they'd be useful… I never did have the opportunity to use them when they'd do anything useful, however.

 No.930

File: 1424160358567.png (17.27 KB, 1132x196, 283:49, Catlord_Messages.png)

>>929

Catlord kept being cute about the whole affair.

 No.931

File: 1424160375057.png (6.44 KB, 987x138, 329:46, Catlord_Cute.png)


 No.932

File: 1424160640981.png (19.04 KB, 1169x306, 1169:306, MTVS_Myra_Alliance.png)

>>931

Now, as for the defender in Myrami's nation…

Just one, but the meaning is clear.

Aryan never intended to capture a Przewalskia. After all, this was no staged force for activity checking, Aryan always insisted on sending hundreds of units.

Even then, we believed that MTVS was indeed as innocent and neutral as they had claimed, so we did not act on this information.

PIBH, it turns out, was right.

 No.935

File: 1424166057985.png (900.78 KB, 1000x800, 5:4, laugh.png)

ITT: Scarf getting BTFO by some Anon.

 No.936

>>927
>>928
>>929
>>930
>>931

My question to all of this is whether Catlord did anything in response to the attacks? Did he never tell anyone? Did he even inform Aryanne that it was reserved?

>>925

>I'm not sure you so completely disagree with me, in reality. I haven't been communicating very well on this thread, and tempers are high. In any case, your well-wishes are appreciated ^^


Please don't assume. I don't agree with you or FotA and what you've done and it's left a very sore taste in my mouth.

>>932
When did that naval unit get there, do you have proof of that? 1 Defender is laughably small as well and I would like to remind people, when forces in the thousands were being sent.

 No.957

File: 1424194973749.gif (150.09 KB, 500x346, 250:173, giphy.gif)

>>936
To be honest I'm going to go ahead and state that I'm the anon. Much better to have your name behind something.

 No.978

>>957
I knew it had to either be you or Minty. Because you were very intelligent for an anon.

Also, I think I'm just going to stop avatar-ing for a while. I'm getting sick of the image limit 8Chan enforces for duplicate imagery.

 No.979

File: 1424220768945.gif (44.26 KB, 500x346, 250:173, tumblr_lxtyywcGxo1r7w65no1….gif)

>>978
Heh you flatter me.
And yeah the limit is annoying. I'm going to run out of space on my phone soon to avatarfag with.

 No.1257

File: 1425026147405.png (Spoiler Image, 286.58 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, LOL_XD.png)

>>782
>a reset of >CLOP
I might actually come back for that, especially if there are no empires.

 No.1259

File: 1425043294562.png (Spoiler Image, 129 KB, 343x449, 343:449, Cloud_Kicker_costume_S2E4.png)

>>1257
Admin doesn't want to scratch empires.
If people want a reset, the guild has to dispose of FFA first. Or FFA have to kick the guild's ass.



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