/cow/ - Lolcows (Merry Satanmas!)

I swear, it's only the fucking hacks that include "progressive" elements into their stories and then cry that "bigots" hate their stories.

A good writer could include "progressive" elements but make them feel natural and not forced in to meet an agenda.

>>165961

They never seem to learn that putting minorities in their stories for the sake of "diversity" instead of writing a good story with relatable characters always fails, no matter how much money you throw at marketing.

That black Annie movie tanked, becuase it was a dumb gimmick to appeal to progressives.

Lucas tried to market his shitty Red Tails movie by saying it was the first movie to feature "african americans as lead roles" (wat). He blamed "racist" movie producers for not wanting to buy his shitty script because it had black people.

When your story has lines like

"The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrran rooftops - it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight."

no amount of progressiveness will save it.

This person sounds a LOT like Josh Trank.

The similarities are astounding. The insane mannerisms, the goofy speech quirks, the "it's everybody's fault but mine" attitude, the massive ego. He comes off like an angry amateur trying to excuse his failures rather than accept them.

Can we make a term for this? "Going full Trank"?

>>166167

>Why is this nincompoop getting paid to write terrible Star Wars fan fiction?

Disney Exec: We need a new Star Wars book out in a few months to help promote the new movie.

LucasArt Exec: That's a short deadline. What do you want?

Disney Exec: We need someone who can write fast and work for peanuts.

LucasArt Exec: We have a guy, but he's not very good.

Disney Exec: That's not our concern. This is an EU story, not anything important.

cuck wenlittlewhitedick

well that sucks. I was looking forward to the "between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens" material.

and Aftermath had some neat ideas, like the apparent Vader cultists. not really liking the >implied nuThrawn though.

>Not liking my book makes you part of the Empire!

If this is the kind of crap you have to read to be good in the Star Wars galaxy, no wonder there are so many goddamn Sith.

>>166118

Worse yet, this is Star Wars, a series that introduced Lando Calrissian specifically because there were no black dudes, as well as bumping diversity in the fighter pilots that were on screen.

There are decent ways to actually do shit, the key is to not make a big fucking deal about it. Make a cool character in a good story, that's it.

Reading the Amazon reviews nearly all of the one star scores were because of how badly it was written. Apparently his style is atrocious, he is just a terrible hack of a writer who has scored a double own goal with butchering an eagerly awaiting title as well.

Upon hearing news of how he was being scored he put a call out on twitter for fans to go and give it five stars to "redress the homophobic inbalance."

Problem being that the bad reviews rarely mention the faggot angle, except for "noticed it and didn't care" or "It was really forced and obvious he has an agenda".

To me this author is suffering from a massive dose of ego/grand delusion. This is a book that is part of a whole, a small cog in a machine that is forty years old and has a certain style, a recognisable brand that is meant to be building on what has gone on before and building up something bigger in the future.

This idiot has just written something for himself. "Fuck the fans and fuck anyone who doesn't agree with me. You are all wrong and homophobic and dumb for not getting it. I am right and perfect."

Be interesting to see if he gets to write the other two follow up books. If he does then you know Disney agrees with his vision and style and that the movies aren't going to be much better.

"The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrran rooftops - it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight."

>>165898

>gay is disease

We should take this and run with it

Go to tumblr

And tell everybody there

That X author said being gay is a disease

Pull a enders game on his faggot ass

>>166412

People have recently forgotten that "hamfisted" is a term that's been around for years. No one likes preachy bullshit, they never have.

"The guy wibbles and wobbles through the street, careening drunkenly across the busy roadways - he zigzags herkily-jerkily into the unemployment office."

>>166159

It's just hipsterism/entitlement. These people are all the same, every damned one of them. RLM reviewed American Ultra specifically because the writer of that (Landis's son, can't recall his name) threw a tantrum on twitter about the movie bombing. He said people just didn't like good, original ideas anymore.

It couldn't possibly be the terrible script he wrote, the un-appealing cast, or stoner comedies not exactly having a history of being huge box office smashes.

Same attitude behind Tim Schafer retardedly squandering the millions more than he said he needed before finished the game it was for.

Same deal with the "pictures for sad children" guy who started burning the book he was supposed to ship out at the end of his kickstarter campaign because the dumb fuck didn't calculate the cost right, and his stupid hipster ideas (having a crushed insect inserted into every book) were more expensive than he assumed, so he announced capitalism was evil and he should just be given money to live and produce as he so chooses.

They're spoiled babies who believe they're owed success and acclaim plain and simple.

>>166577

It helps that Darth Vader is the face of the Star Wars franchise

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>>166684

>Following Nick "The Sister Fister" Nyberg, John Scalzi, Nostalgia Chick, Quinn and Anita

What the fuck is this shit? Is there some kind of hipster illuminati for terrible people or something? Holy fuck.

Well, now we can add "supports a confessed pedohpile" to our list of grievances with this writer.

>>166412

When I looked at the writing for this book it looked like a screen play written by someone with ADD to me, and I meant to look at his other novels to see if he just didn't know the difference between a screen play and a novel.

Wait, why WOULDN'T anyone sane side with the Empire? I mean edgelording aside, look at this shit:

>Palpatine destroyed the inefficient and counterproductive Republic bureaucratic system which was arguably far more deadly than any superweapon or mass purge.

>Under Palpatine entire forgotten parts of the Outer Rim were once again united with the rest of the Galaxy

>Under Palpatine, the violence and mass devastation of the Clone Wars was abruptly stopped. Even the damage of the Galactic Civil War pales in comparison to the Clone Wars.

>Palpatine took the Banking Clan to task and reeled back their obscene fiscal stranglehold over the Galaxy. He also introduced a new currency system that fixed years of inflation that had rendered Republic credits worthless.

>Under Palpatine, naval research reached a new peak as some of the most impressive ships in thousands of years were constructed. Likewise, under Palpatine, extra-galactic travel would have been possible in a few decades.

>Palpatine brought a feeling of peace and unity to the galaxy as the vast public (barring a few fringe species) felt united under the Imperial banner.

Like I don't know if it's bad writing but basically the Empire un-fucked a galaxy that had been on the decline for centuries and in less than a decade had totally turned everything around. If it wasn't for the mass murder, it would be impossible for them to be remotely unlikable.

>>166835

All empire's are evil anon, no and's, ifs,or butts :^)

>>166684

I am so glad I pirated it.

also Mark Waid did the Princess Leia comics, and he's super faggoty too.

>>166835

>If it wasn't for the mass murder, it would be impossible for them to be remotely unlikable.

That sounds pretty familiar. It's almost like the empire was based off of something.

>>166684

also

>Batman comic #44 makes ‘white readers accountable for their complicity in the real-world situations that the comic analogises’.

holy fuck is McIntosh actually writing Batman now?

>>166850

>Batman #44 makes you feel guilty about shit you didn't do that happened to people you don't know based on the genetic origins behind the color of your skin, you horrible piece of trash.

Remember when comics were made to entertain people? I sure as hell fucking don't.

>>166835

Not to mention that the rebels are essentially fighting to give power to a completely unproven monarch.

>>166684

What's actually offensive is just a quote by "comics critic Emma Houxbois" about it "holding white readers accountable for their complicity". Look who's actually behind the work. That's a good team. It's got some solid writers.

Don't let a caption written by a "comics critic" bias you against something that you haven't read yet. She's no different than a "gaming journalist".

Fuck that racist bitch.

>>166908

Also lets put the Travon Martin case in perspective. For several blocks this creepy Mexican dude followed him in a van as he walked home, so he decides to take a shortcut through some lawns, to ditch the dude. Dude gets out and chases after him. So he hides, but the dude keeps looking. So he jumps the Mexican. Now put yourself in the black teenagers shoes. Creepy middle aged Mexican guy is chasing you down on your way home. You're scared, and so you decide to fight back. Things a misunderstanding, but why was the old guy with a gun chasing after him? What did he do? Oh, right. Walking while black.

It doesn't matter if he was a bit of a thug or not. The Mexican chasing him down had no way of knowing that info. All he knew was that a black kid was walking around. Why did he get out of his car and huff and puff to chase him down, while carrying a gun? Face it. This was a race thing. Pure and simple.

Chase after me and I'm liable to confront you as well. He could have been a serial killer for all the kid knew. He followed him for blocks and then exited his vehicle and ran after the kid because the kid tried to get away. Zimmerman has a hero complex. He thinks he's Batman and he thought the kid was a robber. Neighborhood watch isn't about being batman. If not for the gun I'm pretty sure no one would have been charged in the incident.

So race did play a role, and Mexicans can be racist. Who knew? Oh, right. Everyone who knows actual Mexicans.

Fucker went out to patrol the neighborhood with a loaded gun. What did he think was going to happen when he caught the kid?

>>166835

That's exactly how I feel about Hitler: the guy came in and completely unfucked Germany after the Weimar Republic. And then the had nothing better to do than start a new World War right after the previous one. Really?

I'm not one of those "muh holohoax" idiots, it happened, but why did it happen? Germany could have been ruling the world by now through science, technology and economy by now if they hadn't fucked up things by starting another war.

In regards to Star Wars, I think it's simply blasphemy to propose that an empire could be a good form of government. Muh freedom and democracy is the public religion in the US, so having an empire that is not evil is akin to heresy. So no matter how efficient the empire was, they had to be made evil. Fuck that, my home country was the most prosperous and free when it was ruled by despots. Then the POC came and culturally enriched us, and we still haven't recovered after centuries.

>>165833

>Nyan Cat

whats with these people and meme's?

Are meme's supposed to be a hip cool thing?

Or are they just a substitute for an actual sense of humor ?

>>166835

Speaking from the old EU and the films the biggest problems with the Empire was the Emperor and the Moffs in charge.

The Emperor was so wrapped up in the Force and it's mysticism that he let the Moffs and his underlings handle most things. This is how most of the anti-alien/anti-women empire shit came to be.

The Emperor was fine with both, so long as they where good at what they did. The exception being Tarkin who was big on the whole meritocracy idea.

Ignoring both's penchant for super weapons and cruelty they'd be allright guys.

The Empire wasn't perfect but they replaced a republic who couldn't even build an army to protect themselves without someone pulling the strings.

>>166934

You guys do know that the main inspiration for the plot is actually Fritz Langs Metropolis, which was written by Fritz Langs Nazi wife. Who he divorced and left Germany, in good part because he didn't agree with her political views, and was half Jewish. He ditched that hitch and ran away to America to become a nobody. You can thank Hitchcock for that. His original plan was England.

Anyway Hitler was inspired by Fritz langs work, and wanted him to be the official director of Nazi movie propaganda. Fritz thought this was a trap though. When asked he told Goebbels "but I'm half Jewish" the reply was something along the lines of "we decide who is and isn't Jewish". That's when he decided the going was good.

Anyway the other inspiration for the original movies was the work of Akira Kurosawa. The plot was therefore a convoluted mixture of samurai mythos, fascist ideology turned on its head, and the two world wars, for some fucking reason.

So try not to put too much thought into it. Also enjoy the film that inspired star wars. I'm pretty sure none of you have ever seen it. Or this entire thread would be way different.

>>166684

>all white people

gee its almost like this is completely manufactured antagonism designed to sell subpar products to guilty whiteys

Any gay /cow/boys want to torrent his novel and review it, to give the writer some perspective?

>>166118

>When your story has lines like

>"The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrran rooftops - it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight."

Please, for the love of God, tell me that's an actual line from the novel.

>>166934

Well Darth Revan was basically space Moldbug in that he felt the Galaxy could only be successfully run through autocracy. Ironically enough, Revan came to this conclusion because the Republic wasn't doing enough to protect its citizens in the outer rim from the Mandalorian threat. The farce that was the Huk Wars thousands of years later would also prove him right. So the result is a humanitarian fascist who wants a galactic pax romana, which Palpatine could have had.

>>166963

Yes, that is an actual line, but I'm just going by all the negative reviews that mention that line.

>>166948

Because of what one "comic book critic" who probably hasn't even read the fucking thing yet wrote? That's like believing any of the half assed YouTube feminist commentaries on video games. Or at least the popular ones by that chick who can't into gaming.

>>166976

Yes, but at what cost? Individual freedoms and liberties down the drain, mass genocides, villages burned and planets literally blown up. Anything that got in the empires way was squashed like a bug. Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

So the rebellion was justified. Empire went to far. Like how England went to far with it's empire and it's demands. Or I suppose a better example would be Spain. Destroying alien cultures in the name of unity. It will bite you in the was.

>>167003

At this point I don't know why anyone with a name and reputation would even have a Twitter account. It can ONLY go badly, there's only risk. Get some assistant or handler to run it, being "authentic" at that level isn't important.

>>167009

The reason why they have them is because every other aspect of their image is so micromanaging. They don't feel like genuine people anymore. Imagine the angst associated with that. Having handlers from the studio literally groom you and feed you lines. Practicing for every interview like it's you're a witness in some court case. Day in and day out. Used to be that they'd just break down on the set or at home, shave their heads, do a buttload of drugs (sometimes literally) and then the studio would have to fly in a hair stylist from London, or the police would be called because of a strange smell coming from an apartment.

>>167012

>They don't feel like genuine people anymore. Imagine the angst associated with that.

No, there is no angst. Wanna know how I know? Cause there's celebrities AND normal people alike who don't have Twitters. It's only a select few who are fucking up, Hollywood ran for decades BEFORE Twitter, how did they do it? Were they all insane? Or did they just have their circle of friends they hung out with, like we all do?

Social media has nothing to do with sanity unless you also wanna propose that everyone was insane before it. They weren't. I'd argue they were more sane, not less. I would argue social media has made people crazier, it's fucked people over and ruined their careers and yet they can't stop, they're fucking junkies for this new type of connection that has the value of sugar.

>Having handlers from the studio literally groom you and feed you lines.

Also, you know what? That rarely happens. It really isn't an epidemic unless you're from the Mickey Mouse Club in the 90s, it's not some brainwashing thing they just recommend people not say things in interviews. They are still themselves, they just need to not be fuck-ups. There's a whole Entertainer Infrastructure set up to allow these people to get into private clubs, private islands, private parties, shit made just for them. Showbiz used to be worse in the 40s with that but it hasn't been controlling for decades, and even back THEN people were saner and weren't shitting their pants all over radio.

>>167020

Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely…

That's why it would have never worked.

Today I took a look at the periodic table of elements.

I saw the atomic number of gold on there and I thought to myself: Propaganda.

Not a moment of peace.

>>166928

>>166924

Bitch please, hitler and the nazis didn't unfuck shit, they created a massive economic bubble riding on top of rearmament, they literally issued billions of phony money backed not by gold or any reserve currency but literal IOUs, and those IOUs were then used to trade as well which only made the bubble economy worse

They went to war because the alternative was an economic collapse worse than 1929. You can see that with other smaller fascist regimes that lost control when the state-run economy and crony capitalism went to shit.

>>166916

Meh I don't care for the Z guy, my problem with that shitfest is the amount of crap libtards are saying. They don't give two shits about black people, else they wouldn't create blm which basically destroyed "stop black on black crime". You know why they created that one? because if you're black 9/10 times you're most likely to be killed by another black guy than a white/other race than black-guy. That's a real problem, blm isn't one.

>>167039

Thanks, that's just the right amount of silly propaganda I needed to get me through the day.

>>167039

A good percentage of that is just the fact you are more likely to be killed by someone in your own neighborhood. Getting killed by a stranger is more rare than you think. Even these gang kids know the person they are shooting.

You are right about the Nazis though. They basically looted the fuck out of Europe in the hopes of backing up all that money they printed. Then as a deadman switch they set up orders to destroy it all if they lost. Bury the gold, burn the art. It's like how the Saudis have planted bombs around the oil lines. The price of oil is based on international trade, and Opec controls the flow. If the Saudis are ever overthrown they have an open plan to blow up their entire reserve and the pipelines. This is what keeps them in power. The Nazis had a similar thing going. They didn't care about fixing Europe. It was all about the people on the top, and they printed the money before they looted the wealth. Whole thing was unstable as fuck. It would eventually have come crashing down under it's own weight.

Fuck the Nazis.

>>166835

Don't forget that (if you go by the old EU), the Emperor possibly knew about the incoming Yuuzhan Vong, and so began a policy of intense military build up to prepare for the invasion.

The galaxy under the Empire would've fared so much better than they did under the New Republic.

>>167021

> Seth Rogen and company

How is Seth Rogan or anyone in that crew fucked up?

And most of the other examples can likely be attributed to weird shitty families, like the Jackson 5. Kids shouldn't be doing that IN GENERAL and if they are there's often some dark shit going on in the family, not necessarily the agents and companies.

>>167095

Again, refer to the inspiration. Or if you don't have the patience just read the Wikipedia summery of metropolis. George lucus just flips it on it's head a bit. To him the absolute destruction of the empire at the risk of greater consequences is worth it, because it's better to die free than live in a cage. He doesn't see the comprise being possible. The compromise being a more tolerant empire. He makes it impossible by portraying the empire as more blood thirsty by it's very nature than Stalin and Hitler combined. So there was no hope. It's a commentary on globalization from the 80's that was written by a young idealist liberal fresh out of college. Lets put some perspective on this. You guys are taking it entirely to seriously.

>>167195

Sorry, meant late 70's.

I hate John Green so much that I'm starting to feel a little autistic about it. How can I teach myself not to care what this little shit has to say?

>>166916

>The neighbourhood watchman never once said anything, no sir

You're forgetting the part where Trayvon Martin bashed his head into concrete, twice.

>>166894

>The Imperial Stormtroopers weren't named after the Nazi Stormtroopers

Mate the films have never been subtle; they picked "generic enemy we can all get behind."

>>166577

Re-watch the original trilogy. Every single text roll outright tells the audience that the empire is "evil", or at least it says that for Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back. Not sure about RoJ.

>Dude's friends with the Twitter clique

Is that why there's been about a dozen articles where he's gotten to spew his nonsense in stark contrast with reality?

>>167211

If it's any consolation at all, John Green had to quit social media altogether because of the massive SJW backlash against him.

See, he wrote some incredibly mild and totally innocuous things and Political Correctness and Callout Culture, and SJWs decided he was public enemy numero uno.

The new narrative they like to use against is how he's "creepy" and "totally secretly a pedophile" because he writes romance books with young teenagers targeted at young teenagers.

Because, you know, children are completely sterile and never experience anything close to romantic feelings for other people, sure as hell nothing even close to sexual curiosity in even the slightest way.

>>165833

Daily reminder that the Empire had the right ideas and the Rebels had to go and fuck everything up, only to get their shit kicked in by the Vong.

>>166916

Burglary tools were found in the dead-ass nog's backpack. The little cunt had a history of it. There had been previous incidents with nog thieves in the area. I'm sorry, I mean thieves who just happened to be nogs, and if they were, it was only poverty and racism that drove them to it.

So fucking what if there was a "racial" element to it? It seemed entirely justified in light of all the facts in the case.

>>167246

>not ignoring everything to do with the Vong and Jacen Solo becoming a second-rate Vader wannabe

what kind of moronic pleb are you

>>167242

when did this happen?

>>167020

>pragmatic yet altruistic philosopher-king Revan intended

Bitch his heir was Malak. If Revan actually believed that crap then he was a retard who deserved to get stabbed in the back.

>>167247

By burglary tools you mean what exactly? Also once again he wasn't out robbing that night and Zimmerman had no way to know he had tools in the backpack he wasn't carrying. It still amounts to a racist Mexican with a hero complex chasing down a kid for several blocks and then confronting him while carrying a loaded gun. Also for the record I have a lockpick set. Does not mean I'm a thief. Even if I was it wouldn't give some creep who's not a cop the right to follow me for several blocks in his suv and then chase after me when I tried to escape by cutting through lawns. Difference is I'm basically white and would have done a lot more damage to the Z man if I was scared like that. Especially as a teenager. Also I would have called the cops. No reason for a guy to follow a teenager or anyone else like that. It's not what neighborhood watch does. It's what people who mean you harm do. Follow you and then chase you down.

It wasn't about him being a thug. There is no way Zimmerman could have known that. This was about a black child being in the wrong neighborhood at night.

For the record Bruce Lee was a thug as a kid. That's why his parents sent him to China to live with his relatives for a while. To learn some respect and get him off the wrong path. Came back knowing kung fu and became a movie star. We can't know what Martin would have become. He was in that neighborhood for a similar reason to why Bruce Lee was sent to China. Reading the whole story just makes you sad. He was a kid. A messed up kid, but a kid.

The most important aspect of this story is that that particular night he wasn't up to no good, and was chased down by a creepy older dude with a gun, because he was black.

>>167218

No. You're he jumped him after he was chased down and first tried hiding. Again he didn't know why he was being chased and was scared. He was defending himself. Also it's called ground and pound. It's not like he curb stomped the dude, or stuck his thumbs in his eyes while doing it. Self defense isn't clean. Especially if you don't know if the guy chasing you down is armed… You know there is a reason why the police identify themselves when giving chase. They yell "police" so you don't think some crazy serial killer is running after your ass and so the crowd doesn't interfere. They don't do it because it's cool and makes them feel manly.

>>167454

It's like he never grew out of the "lel so randumb" phase that everyone goes through when they're 13.

>>167471

>racist mexican

>zimzam is half peruvian

Keep digging that hole libshit

>>167489

And that matters because? A racist guy chased after a kid. The racist in question wasn't 100 percent white. So that makes it OK? Because race matters? Who gives a shit what race the racist himself is.

>>167020

From all I've seen, Sith are great at conquering but pretty much genetically incapable of actually running the place not like a cartoon villain, partly because they can't handle anything less than absolute power while drunk on the dark side.

Hell, Darth Vader's force choking officers left and right in the originals for taking responsibility, and the Emperor's sitting in the middle of his half built doom fortress cackling while there's a war going on outside. Ain't subtle.

>>167471

Wasn't it a private neighborhood?

Tray tray did have a record of assault, and robbery. Also there had been several reports of robbers of a kid fitting his description in the area.

Sage for off topic

>>167540

One in which he was staying, and again he was followed for blocks before he cut through. Then he was chased on foot, because he cut through yards to escape the car. It's not like the car following him had security written on the side. He had no idea what Zimmermans intentions were and Zimmerman had no idea who he was. Zimmerman has a well documented hero complex. This isn't the only instance of him trying to play hero. Only thing is that this is the instance in which he played batman with a gun and shot a kid. You can't say Zimmerman didn't do nuthin wrong. He technically didn't do anything illegal, because in that state if you instigate a situation and then find yourself in danger it is legal to shoot your way out. Basically the laws fucked up and allows for people with hero complexes to rush into situations and shoot their way out. Legal and right are two different things. Try that shit in other states, and you'll find the stand your ground laws usually have exemptions for situations in which you instigated the confrontation. So it would be manslaughter. It's a Florida thing. There is a lot of shit wrong with Florida.

>>167540

Also he couldn't have been the robber. He was wasn't there at the times of the previous robberies and didn't really match. Except being black. That's called walking while black if the police do it to you. Like all black people look alike.

>>167477

>It's not like he curbstomped the dude

What kind of fucking retard are you? Having your head smacked against the ground, even from a fall is enough to kill you. That's lethal force, attempted murder. Yes, it was spur of the moment, but as soon as someone initiates lethal force (twice) then you are well within your rights on the continuum of force to straight up fucking kill them.

Zimzam may have been chasing him around to get his kicks, but as soon as Martin attempted to murder him (being able to jump him infers that he was perfectly hidden and as such didn't have to attempt to murder him) whatever notion you have of "He dindu nuffin" goes out the window.

maybe we should make a thread for all the dindu supporters

>>166835

You dumbass half of the shit you listed were things he cuased

The outer rim was still a shit hole and he enslaved most of th non human races

>>167560

Traytray went home and doubled back to attack Zimmerman because he thought Zimzam was gay. Really did you even pay the slightest bit of attention to what Jenteal said in court?

>>167286

http://theralphretort.com/tumblr-favorite-john-green-learns-the-hard-way-sjws-eat-their-own-6016015/

>zimzam vs dindu

Could it be possible that both of them thought the other one was a threat to their safety because they didn't have the 20/20 hindsight that you get from having the media blaring that info at you for months on end? Maybe Trayvon thought that Zimmerman was some scary guy stalking him because he didn't live in the neighborhood and didn't know Zimmerman was neighborhood watch. Maybe Zimmerman didn't know if Trayvon was a burglar or not but just saw someone he didn't know walking around a gated community after dark? And they both fought because they thought the other one was going to kill them and Zimmerman happened to survive.

Maybe in some alternate universe, Trayvon lived and Zimmerman died, and nobody gave a fuck because they couldn't milk a race war out of it.

>>167195

>You guys are taking it entirely to seriously

The irony of this sentence in the context of that paragraph is carcinogenic.

>this thread

I get that /cow/ isn't /lit/ but come on. Lets get back to the matter at hand. Wendig is an unbearable hack of a writer and can't deal with criticism. How did this shit water even get the job? He got connections somewhere? What do you have to do to write for them

>>167959

Entirely. In which case they likely both had hero complexes. One went after what he thought was a serial killer or rapist of some sort and the other going after what he thought was a burgler. That would make the entire incident a great symbol for Americans as a whole.

>>168013

There are plenty of writers who keep getting jobs because they can fart out novels in a short order.

It's pretty much the same with comic artists who trace their stuff from porn. In end it's about meeting deadlines.

>>167215

It's funny because he's not actually terrible writer. Maybe it's like with John Dies at the End, and The Call of Cthulhu. Disregard the writers personal opinions and you have decent stories. Not ones that necessarily live up to their hype, but not actually bad. Like you wouldn't wipe your ass with it.

>>168058

Quite a few authors are like that. Neil Gaiman for example is a fantastic writer but his opinions are awful

>>168013

He's got connections with Twitter cliques and knows other authors like John Green personally.

He's also able to write very fast, which is pretty rare. Most people - even really good authors - can takes months or even years to write relatively short works.

>>166386

>tfw the edgy Sith code makes more sense than Jedi code

>>168640

Is he wrong? The originals did suck.

>>168207

Is it wrong to be attracted to teenage girls?

>>168643

Perhaps that's just because you saw the movies and read the books at a more impressionable age and are thus biased. Plus shit is shit. He did it for the sheckles.

>>166577

only irrelevant countries got more than 55% supporting on side anyway.

>>166835

>muh oppressed xenos

>muh woman cant serve in the imperial forces

>>168645

Yeah, they are way too old bro. Getting hard for 15 year old grannies? Fucking degenerates.

>>166400

Like Mace Windew. He fucking lead the Jedi council and no one complained about that.

>>166400

Where did you hear this?

>>166835

How was it more deadly? Let's hear that argument.

>>168208

>It bothers me that women are held to a different standard on this than men

Two things, John.

First; WOMEN are the ones that judge and control women in regards to who they're fucking and how many of them are getting rad V action. It's like this universally and throughout history. Single men use what little power and influence they have over women's sexuality to actually increase the amount of guys they'll fuck because it betters their odds and partners of women use their comparatively (to women) weak influence to increase the amount of sex they'll get. Men are also far less likely to judge women negatively (as opposed to judging positively or not judging one way or the other) for promiscuity, women on the other hand fucking hate other women being promiscuous. You're arguing that women need to get their shit together because you don't know the fucking basics of how women's sexuality operates. They hold themselves to these catty fucking standards because sex is competitive and women's method of competition is entirely based in societal management/control/manipulation and passive aggression.

Source 1 - http://www.austin-institute.org/wp-cocks/uploads/2014/02/Cultural-Suppression-of-Female-Sexuality.pdf

>Four theories about cultural suppression of female sexuality are evaluated. Data are

reviewed on cross-cultural differences in power and sex ratios, reactions to the sexual

revolution, direct restraining influences on adolescent and adult female sexuality,

double standard patterns of sexual morality, female genital surgery, legal and religious

restrictions on sex, prostitution and pornography, and sexual deception. The view that men suppress female sexuality received hardly any support and is flatly contradicted by

some findings. Instead, the evidence favors the view that women have worked to stifle

each other’s sexuality because sex is a limited resource that women use to negotiate

with men, and scarcity gives women an advantage

tl;dr - women leverage pussy for power. It's been known since the dawn of man, but it's actually documented now. It got to the point that when the sexual revolution happened in the 70s that prostitutes half-jokingly said they were being put out of business because women were fucking guys for free. The benefit of women being able to earn their own money and forge their own path, by the way, is that they're more likely to fuck because they no longer need to leverage it for power. Conversely in societies where women really are oppressed (middle east/Africa), it's women that are enforcing genital mutilation with the men saying the dislike the practice and prefer women that haven't had it done, but the women continue it because pussy is their only power, so they have to tightly control it.

Source 2 - http://www.scribd.com/doc/74567374/Intolerance-of-Sexy-Peers-Study-by-T-Vaillancourt#scribd

>Intolerance of sexy peers. tl;dr - women react negatively when confronted with other attractive women that are dressed provocatively, they ignore or aren't bothered by attractive women dressed conservatively. It's almost as if they know that men are more promiscuous and that attractive women could absolutely fuck their boyfriend if they wanted to so they become passive-aggressive and seek to diminish and ostracise.

Second

Women get pregnant, men don't. Women, at the most basic, have more to lose in regards to having sex and are also under pressure from almost all female influences in their life to not have sex with guys because it will either fuck their life up or have vague consequences of poor reputation, etc. This means that, contrary to what the recent wave of feminists have been saying, you do in a sense have to earn pussy. Either through status, power, economy or sheer animal magnetism. If you're a guy and you're fucking a lot of women, on the genetic level you are proving that you can pass your genes on so much better than everyone else that your survival is guaranteed. Men want women, so if a guy's getting a lot of women he's respected by other guys because he has what they want. The people that admonish the behaviour are almost always bitter, jealous faggots that simply cannot get pussy. Or more, they want to get pussy their own way which simply doesn't work, so they get frustrated. Women want men. Be a fucking man.

>>169359

>Mace Windu led the council and no one complained

The only thing people complained about was his terrible acting role. He just wasn't suited for the character. Morgan Freeman could've smashed that role to pieces and it was just before he became the go-to meme actor for "wise black man."

>>169369

>Where did you hear this

Primarily RLM, it's stated in the Plinkett Reviews. But if you just look at the cast from 4 through 6, it gets more diverse as it goes on specifically because they wanted to increase diversity and representation box office sales. Ep 4 is essentially all white people, off the top of my head I can't remember a single non-white person. Ep 5 has Lando in a prominent role as a suave pimp mother fucker. Ep 6 has Lando come back after regretting his betrayal, plus more diverse fighter pilots featured in the assault on the 2nd Death Star. The reason no one remembers is because it was mostly subtle, no one really cared and I don't think any of the possible uproar from the 70s and 80s about "muh progressive filmmakan" survived the monumental success of the franchise. We're in a different era right now, forced diversity's more transparent and people can see it for what it is; cheap pandering to the perpetually offended that don't actually find cocks to enjoy (and thus simply don't bother with cocks they don't like), but to despise for ideological reasons.

I can dislike shit for my own personal reasons (see: any tumblr shit, mostly because it's objectively bad rather than pushing ideological bias/narrative) but I don't make a fuss about it because there's stuff I do like still being made and I'm also busy making stuff I want to see that doesn't exist. That's the key difference and always will be.

>>169514

I'm gonna wait and see on the Disney one. Amusing that a black guy is playing literal Stormtrooper.

Funny that they've entirely thrown out the previous EU's assumptions about post-RotJ progress; the Empire's fallen apart but there's so far no new Republic to replace it- not surprising, the first movie (or was it second) goes and says that the Emperor has dissolved all remnants of the previous government, they can't exactly just bring it back.

>>169516

Strangely enough, the first time I saw the trailer I didn't actually think he was a Stormtrooper and didn't see why everyone was getting mad. I knew he was supposed to be a protagonist so I immediately assumed "He stole the trooper armour, just like Han and Luke did in Ep 4. That's why he looks terrified and out of breath in the desert, he's escaping something."

Turns out I was wrong and he apparently actually is a trooper, which makes no sense due to the whole clone thing that's never addressed in the OT to say "Troopers are now citizens of the empire and anyone can join."

>>169526

> which makes no sense due to the whole clone thing that's never addressed in the OT to say "Troopers are now citizens of the empire and anyone can join."

Stromtroopers aren't clone troopers.

Storm troopers are humans, that's why they have chit chats with each others in the OT and that's why Luke asks about "the clone wars" (because clones aren't really a thing anymore).

>>169529

>Stromtroopers

>Storm troopers

Wow, I really messed up my spelling here.

>>169529

Just to give the movie the benefit of the doubt, because at the end of the day I'd love a Star Wars movie I can really enjoy again, I'm fine if they address it at some point as "They opened it upto anyone" and write it off as that.

But due to them being direct successors and it never being mentioned that the people operating on Kamino one day said "Actually let's stop this incredibly fucking lucrative business that is directly under control of the Emperor" it can be easily assumed that only "some" are human, if any, simply because there was no reason for stopping the continued production of clones (or at least it's never addressed in the movies and fuck any other canonical reference, they simply don't matter.) Besides which the complete lack of aliens in there and (with hindsight) Leia stating Luke's short for a trooper would imply that they're all very similar and most likely identical with slight variation through mutation.

>In re: "They have chit chats with each other in the OT"

Identical twins talk to each other too, anon. Even if they're genetically the same, their experiences of life aren't so they'll have things to talk about. We may be a product of genetics but we're also a product of our environments. If we include Clone Wars stuff as canon it's explained as to why all the clones develop different personalities (being among so many of themselves forced them to push themselves to become more individualistic outside of combat/direct orders).

>Re: That's why Luke asks about the clone wars

I think it's more that the Clone Wars were the instigating catalyst for galactic dominion. It's like saying "My grandfather fought in world war 2?" to a parent because you never met the grandfather in question but know that WW2 was a massive event. It doesn't mean there isn't an American army anymore, it just means that the event was so monumental that it's important for an ancestor to have been there.

In the original version they are definitely not supposed to be clones, as they all have distinct voices. It's only since the prequels that this has even been a possibility. The Clone Wars was a vague thing up until that point. Lucas later went and changed some of the voices to the actor who played Jango Fett and the Clones in the prequels, but it isn't supposed to be that they are all clones because there's stuff that contradicts this interpretation.

EU material at the time explained that not all of them are Clones though, because the Empire had a battle with the Kamino cloners who turned against them or something, so the supply wasn't assured and they realized it was dangerous to put all their eggs in one basket. That material may not be canon now, but it's easy enough to give benefit of the doubt to assume the thing it's meant to explain is carried over. It's even complicated in the films by the officer class being different guys when they were clones previously. If we go by the reasoning there was no reason to ever change from the clones, then why did they change the officers (who previously wore helmets with different colors on and were just clones)? Also, why in the first movie, were Luke and Han able to pass for Stormtroopers without their voices giving them away immediately? The obvious conclusion is that some troopers are clones, but that the entire point of this whole Stormtrooper thing was to expand the variety of troops they had access to.

The only reason a black guy as a Stormtrooper is shitty is because you've decided in lieu of the films stating that this is the case that all Stormtroopers from that (retconned) point afterwards that they must be clones. There's nothing stupid about the new film contradicting that, since it was never a sure thing anyway. Honestly, we might as well complain that the clone troopers exist in the first place.

You can think the black guy is stupid, but the clones thing just sounds like an excuse, since it was never a big issue before, and most people just assumed what the (revised) original films already implied. I can at least respect someone who just doesn't like niggers.

>>169575

So le edgy kek XDDDDD

>>169575

>Honestly, we might as well complain that the clone troopers exist in the first place.

well yeah. it's thing #34582 the prequels fucked up

when luke mentions the clone wars, he asks in the way you might remember hearing of a really far off, heroic battle in an exotic corner of the galaxy, not a big, dull, slogging intergalatic war that changed the entire way the space government works

god i've been purposely avoiding this thread to avoid sperging about the goddamn prequels

>>169796

Also this bit of revolting meta-ironic shit:

>"This isn't some kind of inspirational story," she says. "Some scrappy, ragtag underdog tale, some pugilistic match where we're the goodhearted gladiator who brings down the oppressive regime that put him in the arena. They get to have that narrative. We are the ones who enslaved whole worlds full of alien inhabitants. We are the ones who built something called a Death Star under the leadership of a decrepit old goblin who believed in the 'dark side' of some ancient, insane religion."

How can you reactionary homophobic Emperor's royal guards not GROCK this genius?

>>165833

> Stop being the Empire.

Stop giving excuses to join the FUCKING EMPIRE! JUST STOP!

>>169536

>Leia stating Luke's short for a trooper would imply that they're all very similar and most likely identical with slight variation through mutation.

Or it could mean they have height requirements, or to imply that becoming a Stormtrooper is usually for people with a certain frame or build, like other Marines or military types.

>>169842

Or maybe Stormtroopers are aimless canon fodder, who die in one hit.

>>169799

You're making a ha-ha so funny joke, right? That's not actually in the god damn book, right?

I feel like someone should compile a list of every movie or show where a villain has exclaimed some variation of "Face it, I'm/my kind/my people are the future. You/humanity are the past. Relics on your way to extinction."

SJWs trot out the "wrong side of history" line so often, and compare their opponents to fossils and dinosaurs all the time, it's almost as if they're actively trying to sound like cartoon villains.

>>170672

Ironically thats the same speech all totalitarian movements use

And they always eventually lose

>>170663

So the clones are essentially black slaves of the empire? How did he miss his chance to exploit that metaphor with the prequels?

>>170672

The villains aren't always wrong. They just did it the wrong way. Look at the empire.

>>169516

>>169526

plus this is what, 30 years after Return of the Jedi? 50 after Revenge of the Sith?

it'd be weird as hell if the First Order was still using Jango Fett clones roughly 63 years since the Clone army was ordered by Sheev, Dooku, or Sifo-Dyas, whoever actually did it.

>>169526

If all the clones were identical then one virus could wipe them all out. So they play with the DNA of each. Or whatever excuse Hollywood wants to throw in. It will be in there. Have you seen the latest Jurassic park? There will be an unnecessary moment when they explain shit. Do not worry.

What's the quality of the rest of the new EU? If it's like this shit i will be unamused

>>170734

the new episode of Rebels had a couple of lines about the Emperor "retiring" the clones.

>>176228

They already retcon'd Sheev's death again?

>>170698

They're actually Arab/black/Berber. Most of his extras were cheap Tunisians.

>>168207

>which is fucking? weird?

>also his writing is some booboo

Green may be a cuck but at least he doesn't type like a fucking retard Jesus Christ.

>>168677

There's also the fact that, if he wants to use Cheerios as an example, a better way of putting it is this: would you want to eat a bowl of Cheerios after knowing that 37 other people stuck their hands in and ate right from the box with at least a few of those hands also not having been washed after the person attached to them took a piss?

>>167773

>dat rationalization

Holy shit, you're dumb. Using your logic,if someone trips me I'm justified in shooting them.

>>176351

>>>/leftypol/

what the fuck is this even about

>>176471

At one time, it was about a shitty writer. Now it seems like some people decided to talk about Trayvon and Zimmerman.

>>176477

As long as we're developing new software for 8chan, how about we invent a button that, instead of banning someone, fills their veins with enough Zyklon B to kill a full-grown elephant?

You know, for these special kind of shitposters?

>>169371

The empire murdered Aunt May and Uncle Palpatine for no reason.

>>176519

You mean like the CSA?

>>176519

Most people side with the "little guy" even if they're worse than the people they're fighting against (Contras, Most Anti-Assad groups, OWS)

SJW types pushing the Rebels over the Empire is funny, given how the Pre-Disney EU routinely shat on the Jedis and elevated the Empire and the Mandalorians as better and cooler.

Hell, Karen Traviss got a lot of shit when she posted a piece on her website saying the Jedis were horrible horrible people, as a response to fans calling out her bullshit, in terms of how (when working with several other writers for a multi-book story series) she basically spent 90% of her book ignoring the main storyline and instead derailing the plot to have the story be about Boba and the Mandalorians doing something utterly divorced from the plot.

That said, Lucas's people were half-assed in their dealing with the Empire. Shit like Crimson Empire was allowed because it sold but they kept going back and forth on painting the Empire either as evil incarnate and racist as hell and more of a misguided but necessary evil (note that they did an asspull retcon with an invasion storyline where the creation of the Empire was done because bad monsters were coming and that Palpatine knew the Republic would get slaughtered and created the Empire in order to organize a big enough military inferstructure to defend the galaxy from said invaders) and quite diverse in that Palpatine promoted aliens and women to high position, so long as you were talented and skilled as opposed to affirmative action tokenism, as seen most notably with Thrawn. It was entirely left to the writers if the Empire was cool evil or evil incarnate.

The only reason I can see Wendig and his ilk pulling this shit is that, with Disney creating their own EU, they think they can usurp control over the franchise and push THEIR version of the Star Wars mythos where the Empire is forever evil and you are seriously wrong for even THINKING about liking Vader and his ilk. And why not? JJ Abrahams doesn't even hide that he sees the new Star Wars film as nothing more than a vessel to force feed Social Justice down people's throat as seen with him hiring Boyega over Jesse Plemmons (which pissed off Disney so badly, they supposedly forced JJ to rewrite the entire script when JJ went behind their back and hired Boyega).

And really, I can see them using Boyega as their tool to try and turn Star Wars into an abomination of a zombie franchise, that services nothing but SJW bullshit. Even though his toys are clogging up toy shelves, unbought and the rumors that the entire script had to be rewritten to keep the movie from flopping overseas (where Boyega would be flat out rejected).

>>176537

>the Empire and the Mandalorians as better and cooler.

Villains have always been much more interesting than the heroes

>and the rumors that the entire script had to be rewritten to keep the movie from flopping overseas

Got a link on that? (I'm intrigued)

Must be nice to be George Lucas and no longer affiliated with this train wreck.

>>176537

>JJ Abrahams doesn't even hide that he sees the new Star Wars film as nothing more than a vessel to force feed Social Justice down people's throat

He's also been really explicit with basically stating that the Empire is going to be literal Space Nazis because he's a Jew and oy gevalt, MUH SHOAH.

One of the running rumors floating around in the various Star Wars leaks, that is consistent, amounts to this:

Finn was supposed to be the main male lead. Disney and JJ auditioned a bunch of actors, including Jesse Plemmons (of Friday Night Lights, Breaking Bad fame) and John Boyega, a no-name actor who's only real credit was a really shitty British film called "Attack of the Block".

Disney wanted Plemmons but JJ, dying to SJW-ize Star Wars as his "crowning achievement" as a director, basically hired Boyega "because he was the best actor who auditioned for the role" (which is what he told Disney) but then told the press basically, he cast Boyega to avenge how Star Wars "had no black leads" in episodes 1-6, in the name of spreading social justice. He did this without bothering to consult Disney, who were blindsided, as they had told JJ they liked Plemmons and assumed JJ would not hire a random black guy out of the blue like that.

JJ's bullshit with the press basically made it impossible for them to fire Boyega, but they rightfully panicked because Boyega was supposed to be the male love interest for Luke and Leia's daughter. But they knew fans would not like it, ESPECIALLY foreign fans. As Disney wants the film to do gangbusters at the box office overseas too, given how most films these days make their money not in the states, but overseas.

So they point blank told JJ that since he fucked them over, that they were redoing the film script so as to undo the damage done by JJ. Oscar Isaac's character is now supposed to be Daisy Ridley's love interest and Boyega is now going to be forced into a comic relief parody of Han Solo role.

>>176578

>Boyega was supposed to be the male love interest for Luke and Leia's daughter. But they knew fans would not like it, ESPECIALLY foreign fans.

Why?

>>176578

>Oscar Isaac's character is now supposed to be Daisy Ridley's love interest

I could've sworn I'd read something about her love interest being in Episode 8, but I can't find it.

there's this, though: http://www.thewrap.com/star-wars-episode-viii-shortlist-includes-gina-rodriguez-tatiana-maslany-olivia-cooke-exclusive/

>Rodriguez, Maslany and Cooke will be among a group of girls slated to chemistry-read with “The Force Awakens” star John Boyega before the end of the month.

apparently somebody named Gugu Mbatha-Raw got that part.

>super-African name

>testing for "chemistry" with Jigabooyega

sounds like Mace Dindu's love interest.

>>176584

Films with black male leads tend to do badly overseas, especially in China and Asian markets. Same with interracial love stories.

>>176589

That's expected (With Casual East Asian Racism and all and China being a bigger market than the US for movies)

>>176578

>Boyega was supposed to be the male love interest for Luke and Leia's daughter.

>Luke and Leia's daughter

Wait… what?

>>166412

>"The TIE wibbles and wobbles through the air, careening drunkenly across the Myrran rooftops - it zigzags herkily-jerkily out of sight."

That… That is beyond fucking abysmal, i want to print it out and make ACTUAL authors read it.

I wanna give this shit to Stephen King and tell him "you see this? this was written by someone calling himself an author."

Stephen King would probably wait for another white van to drive by and jump in front of it.

>>176664

The death of the innocent Mace Dindu at the hands of the racist Darth Wilson

>>176358

Your argument was

>Having your head smacked against the ground, even from a fall is enough to kill you. That's lethal force, attempted murder

>as soon as someone initiates lethal force (twice) then you are well within your rights on the continuum of force to straight up fucking kill them.

You argued that, regardless of context, an attack that could theoretically kill you is lethal force and justifies shooting them. You specifically mentioned falling as being lethal.

As for the "telling you you're going to die, and reaching for your gun", Zimmerman was the only witness who claimed that that happened. It's possible that it did, but there's no evidence that would hold up in any courtroom.

Maybe instead of posting le epic image macros, you should actually read your own posts.

>>176697

And the reason why you ground and pound is that the stomp is an illegal maneuver in all mma leagues. Even in "underground" unsanctioned fights. So we ground and pound. Which isn't anywhere near as dangerous. What do these internet tough guy /pol/ocks think a fight looks like?

>>176358

He did not come from behind. Zimmerman claims they had words first. Meaning face to face.

>>168208

So he's sex positive. Good for him. So long as you get tested and wear a condom.

>>176702

My bad, that last part was directed at you, 06ed2d

>>166412

>wibbles and wobbles

Did he get that shit from a Doctor Who episode?

>>176705

>>176699

Did you two know that we have a thread about Zimmerman? Fucking go there. There is a thread about a shitty writer and the changes coming to Star Wars.

>>176713

He really doesn't think that the cereal tastes better if it's the only one you've eaten? Has he ever heard of concepts such as "getting full" or "getting bored with the taste". If you're going to pretend that everyone who disagrees with you hinges their position on a single argument, and then use a fallacious metaphor, at least choose a good fallacious metaphor.

>>176728

I can't tell if this spergout is ironic or not. You're a tripfag, so I'm guessing not.

Though to be fair, I sort of agree.

>>176729

>I'm guessing not

That's because you're slow, anon.

>>176728

>>176728

#niggerliesmatter supporter spotted.

>>176729

Is anything in your post remotely related to the post you're replying to?

>>176730

I knew that it was (at least in part) a joke, insulted you for being a tripfag. And indeed, tripfags are can go on the most retarded (unironic) rants. Take >>176732 as an example — it's full of sperging, ego, and projection (at least you realised that the post is ironic to some degree). With such people you can never be too certain.

>>176731

>Is anything in your post remotely related to the post you're replying to?

Nope, I replied to the wrong post.

>He really doesn't think that the cereal tastes better if it's the only one you've eaten? Has he ever heard of concepts such as "getting full" or "getting bored with the taste". If you're going to pretend that everyone who disagrees with you hinges their position on a single argument, and then use a fallacious metaphor, at least choose a good fallacious metaphor.

was meant for >>168208. Sorry.

>>176734

1)

Forgot to sage

and

2)

>I knew that it was (at least in part) a joke, insulted you for being a tripfag.

should be

>I knew that it was (at least in part) a joke. I simply meant to insult you for being a tripfag.

or something like that (read: grammatically correct, and not looking like it was written by a monkey with a typewriter).

>>176734

>it's full of sperging, ego, and projection

Actually that sounds like projection.

>>176738

Alright well now it's obvious what you're doing so I'm just gonna hide ID+

>>176705

If a creepy guy was following me it's hard to say what I would do in my paranoia. Guy might have a gun. Verbally confronting him could get you shot…

>>176744

Right. Punching him will get you far better results!

>>176746

One of the things on my mind lately was how Eurasia was home to several openly racist massive empires during the time period of the last world war, and how they only got taken down thanks to outside intervention in the form of the USA.

(Yeah, the USSR contributed the meat shields, but even they survived primarily thanks to Lend-Lease… and it's worth noting Russia has taken a hard swing right in recent years. And the third big guy within the Allies, the British, was mainly trying to hold its high position in the world – and lost it anyway because colonialism is bad.)

Now that racism is rapidly becoming "whatever makes US blacks feel bad", a lot of tumblr attitudes/SJWs/leftism has a distinctly American feel, and we're seeing not just Europe but even Asia increasingly being forced to take "dat's rayciss" style crap especially by way of mocking and shaming, uh, hooooly shit.

So, are we gonna do a "Snape kills Dumbledore" with episode VII?

>>176699

Better idea than you. That much is certain.

>>177364

I doubt there's going to be any big spoilers worth a damn, and I don't just mean for us. You might be able to trigger a few MASSIVE spergs but most of the reactions you'll get in this case will probably be from hipsters who will forget everything next the morning. Most you should expect from a Lucas-era Star Wars fan is "Spoilers, man" and maybe a sad emote.

>>177364

Don't forget to dress up as Star Trek redshirts while doing it.

>>177379

Well it's pretty clear in trailer 3 that the new Sith Lord is a Vader. Start shouting that and they'll eventually believe it.

>>177364

I already know what's gonna happen

An alien species from another dimension (think the Vong only less 90s-brand edgy) is forehsadowed

>>177506

Really? I went and rewatched the trailer and it looks like standard sith/empire vs jedi/rebels

>>177512

Probably not (but maybe in the second or third movie)

>>168208

If anybody sticks their dick in my cheerios I'm throwing them out.

This faggot's now going to be writing for Marvel. They're really reaching high with people like him and Kate Leth.

>>167021

It's like dave said.

>>178108

Dave Chappelle's insane. I used to think he just decided to bug out and said fuck Hollywood, but after watching some more of his interviews I'm convinced that -to quote his own character in Half-Baked- he "done smoked himself retarded".

He's convinced there's a conspiracy to emasculate black men in Hollywood. I don't know about conspiracy, but hollywood certainly *likes* having it's male actors crossdress, but it's not in any way limited to race, pretty much every guy in Hollywood has been talked into crossdressing at some point. That story would have made the same amount of sense if he claimed "Th-This is a conspiracy to make man named DAVE crossdress, isn't it?"

He also said why he quit his show on Oprah and it was the dumbest fucking reason. He said he was doing a skit where one of the characters wore blackface, and one of the white people on set "laughed a little too hard at it." He asserted that, because this person was laughing so loud, and they were white, they weren't laughing *with* him but *at* him, and he debated firing this person -quite literally for laughing at his joke- but then instead decided to just quit altogether.

Popular theory is it was Bill Burr whose laugh got to him.

>>178242

I didn't say audiences likes it or that it was good writing, just that it's not remotely limited to black men. That's that part I'm taking issue with. Like, if you watch To Wong Foo where Wesley Snipes, Patrick Swayze and John Leguizamo all spend the film in drag and go "WESLEY? IT'S A CONSPIRACY AGAINST BLACKS!" You're *probably just afrocentric.

Hollywood definitely wants to tear down masculinity, but if it wants to enslave a populous, it's not limited by skin color.

>>176591

>>177518

What the whole point of Disney canceling M rated 1313 if they are just going to make Star wars edgy?

>>165833

>It's like trying to picture Jesus kicking lepers in the throat instead of curing them.

I would pay to see this.

>>178310

Because they didn't have any control over it. Disney controls their ips with an iron fist

>>178358

>Disney controls their ips with an iron fist

Than why they let marvel comics went to shit?

>>169575

I believe after Order 66 there were massive clone casualties and revolt on Kamino (clone production). However, Starkiller was cloned on Kamino which does pose the question: did they didn't produce more clones? Though the production of more clone troops may have been impossible if an ideal candidate, to be used as the master copy, couldn't be found [insert explanation]. Also, Jango Fett's DNA could have been lost in the revolt earlier, or simply degraded. Perhaps someone will clone Boba? There's been blacks in the Old Republic's Empire, even black Sith. The New Republic did have a military I believe as well I believe, literally the only reason Rahm Kota wasn't killed in Order 66. The officer uniforms are adaptations of previous iterations of Sith Empires in the galaxy. ALSO, clones age faster so it would make sense that a lot have died since the Clone Wars as well, which would call for replacement. I think 501st were the only clones in empire after Order 66 anyway.

>>178368

The comics exist as a way to try and get some extra money out of movie fans. Hence why anything resembling good storytelling, continuity or consistent characterization has gone away and why a lot of costumes are either movie costumes or stuff that would work in a movie.

They also took the Marvel license from Capcom despite MvC3 doing incredibly well because cheaply made Pay2Win mobile games make more money.

>>178368

Letting things go to shit isn't quite the same as lack of control. It just means that its their shit instead of someone elses shit.

>>178368

Marvel has gone to shit under Disney's direction.

Keep in mind that Disney are rather fond of jerking themselves off because their board of directors is so 'diverse'. They're all retarded, but they're a diverse bunch of retards so it's okay.

>>166118

I did enjoy that Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence movie "Life". That one had "african americans as lead roles".

>>176749

Can assure you it's only tumblr landwhales that does this shit in Asia (why yes, we actually do have them. It's usually rich faggots), and even then, nobody likes them so often they're just pissing in the wind.

Rest assured, Asia will remain a deeply conservative, religious region for decades to come.

>>178358

I want to see Mikey Mouse kick the crap out of Luke.

>>166738

>Western Europe

Learn your directions pleb, West Europe is blue. It's the Southern European spics who are rebel

>>176537

need source on this

>>178589

the EU shit or Boyega shit cause the EU shit is decades of crap. the Boyega shit is from the sony/other leaks.

>>178368

Because the comics aren't making money and Disney doesn't want to throw even more cash at them just to make it happen.

It's like spending a million dollars to keep your terminally ill relative alive and in pain for another two months. At that point, why bother?

>>176492

I'm pretty sure they stopped Zyklon B production in the 40's due to a series of accidents in bathhouses

>>178252

They can't do worse than the last 3. Those were so bad they were almost good.

>>179165

So what? Is Christianity your sacred cow or something? It cant be worse than the last 3. It can only be so bad it's good or be better.

>>179165

This is exactly how I feel about this film.

>>179205

Oh. It hurts your fee fees. That monster must be stopped.

I'm just happy it's not a social justice thing. On the contrary. It's not pc to criticize Catholicism in America. It's still a minority religion. It's going to piss people off on both sides. I'm loving it. It's almost like he's trolling.

>>179158

http://time.com/4010014/j-j-abrams-star-wars-force-awakens-villain-nazi/

>“That all came out of conversations about what would have happened if the Nazis all went to Argentina but then started working together again?’” Abrams said in the interview.

>“What could be born of that? Could The First Order exist as a group that actually admired The Empire? Could the work of The Empire be seen as unfulfilled? And could Vader be a martyr? Could there be a need to see through what didn’t get done?”

They are Space Nazis. Straight from the mouth of JJ Abrams.

>>179257

>>179257

It always was. Even when it was just the trilogy. Take off those rose colored glasses.

>>179176

>>179215

He never said anything about criticizing Christianity being bad. He was just saying that the /pol/fags were right about the movie being full of thinly-veiled symbolism.

>>179251

Dinosaur riding mutant space Nazis?

>>179260

Yeah, but it always felt like the stories came first and the merchandising came second. But now its obvious what is more important to the creators. Its sad really

>>179292

It felt like that because you were a kid. The plots always been thin.

>>179293

The plot has been popcorn fare, but the first three movies at least felt like they had some kind of heart. The original Star Wars was a low budget passion project, Empire Strikes Back was the best of the series, and Return of the Jedi…

Well, actually things started to turn bad right around Return of the Jedi.

>>179297

Didn't Lucas sue over battle star Galatica taking place in space? I don't think he has a heart.

>>179313

Yeah lucas has always been a dick, a jealous dick too since he always hated spielberg forbeing a jew heil the empire!-t.lucasmaking more money than him

The fact the first starwars turned up so good was a fucking miracle and the work of other people altogether, this fat fuck almost ruined the story (he wanted luke to be a fucking lizard-man) and his first edit of the movie was shit, just shit. It was all done by other people but he took the credit

And thats why the new movies suck so much because it's all him now, theres no one talented around him to clean up his shit anymore

>>179322

JJ is actually pretty good at making borderline exploitation films. Thus perhaps making him perfect for the part. After all, that's all the original films really were. Even the title itself "Star Wars" just screams good b movie. It's incredibly lazy.

>>166179

>this is an EU story

Bold choice of words. The EU as it stands has been disowned by Disney and is therefore dead. The new "lore" is called just that: lore.

>>166167

Disney doesn't give a shit about Star Wars nor quality. They are capitalizing on not only the Disney name but trying to create new fans and entice the old pre-prequel era ones. Shit like good writing or years of expanded universe cocks will not stand in the way of that.

Been to a mall or target recently? Star Wars shit out the ass but most of it is old trilogy stuff with "the Force Awakens" sprinkled in. I'm thinking there were hoping that people wouldn't double take and say "what the fuck is this shit" but instead just threw a chunk of shit in between a couple of beloved characters.

This appeal to progressives, old "fans" and millenials is so fucking depressing.

>>167224

If you're gonna watch the old films then watch episode 4 and 5 don't even bother with 6 unless you plan on watching the shitty new films.

Also fuck anyone who tells you not to go watch the prequels. Watch 1 and 3 because their the best in my opinion

>>166916

>actually defending a nig

Get a load of this liberal.

Black kid beats up hispanic guy and gets shot. Get fucked.

>>179989

If he loves the big so much why don't he marry him?

>>176541

"Nice" that he got money after he sold the trainwreck he created/helped create

Disney Star Wars EU will be the same as the old one: Very varying in quality and shove sjw and leftie shit too often.

>>178252

Eh Star Wars has been overall some exceptions existed dead since 1999 Lucas having full control of the movies so all that is different is that instead of one kind of shit instead we get another kind of shit

>>179165

If this is true than it already has failed because everyone knows the villains are always the cooler parts of the Star Wars franchise. Everyone wants to be part of the Empire and fight for Lord Vader. Why else do you think Vader and the Storm Troopers are the most marketed images?

>>179257

Yeah, I had no real interest beforehand because I've kind of "grown out" of Star Wars but Abrams using a popular franchise as nothing but an excuse to push his agenda on everyone else really was the final nail in the coffin.

>>166577

>Not all of the Empire was le evil naziwonderland.

>Government which genocided planets to keep them from rebelling

>which promoted high human culture because butthurt from the clone wars, which means aliens cant govern themselves

>promoted a bunmch of racist core worlders

>Empire is not Nazi

lol

>>166412

If this the book with the lesbian Moff?

>>166695

I dunno, I'd rather have a confessed pedophile write Star War if he/she actually cares about the EU

>>166835

>Palpatine destroyed the inefficient and counterproductive Republic bureaucratic system which was arguably far more deadly than any superweapon or mass purge.

The Republic lasted for 25,000 years and was consistently rejuvenated. sothe inertic of that form of galactic civilization showed it would survive

>Under Palpatine entire forgotten parts of the Outer Rim were once again united with the rest of the Galaxy

The same regions which broke off and sided with the CIS, and were forcibly reconquered by the Empire?

>Under Palpatine, the violence and mass devastation of the Clone Wars was abruptly stopped. Even the damage of the Galactic Civil War pales in comparison to the Clone Wars.

Even though he helped to instigate the Clone Wars by taking advantage of the millennia old tensions between the human core and the alien rim

>Palpatine took the Banking Clan to task and reeled back their obscene fiscal stranglehold over the Galaxy. He also introduced a new currency system that fixed years of inflation that had rendered Republic credits worthless.

Inflation? Rpublic credits were worthless in Tattooine because the Hutts ran it, not due to Republic fuckups.

>Under Palpatine, naval research reached a new peak as some of the most impressive ships in thousands of years were constructed.

>build new ships to cement yoru iron hold lol

>Palpatine brought a feeling of peace and unity to the galaxy as the vast public (barring a few fringe species) felt united under the Imperial banner.

Overstated, ithe Imperial Senate was a moderating force to keep the Empire from being too vengeuful on the species which supported the Confederate Systems, but there was some aspects of 'revenge' which occured.

>>166924

Germany was racking up serious debts, to manage their economic recovery so it was either 'conquer other shit or have another economic collapse'

>Germany could have been ruling the world by now through science, technology and economy by now if they hadn't fucked up things by starting another war.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah the same Nazi Germany which kicked out the "jewish physicists"?

>In regards to Star Wars, I think it's simply blasphemy to propose that an empire could be a good form of government. Muh freedom and democracy is the public religion in the US, so having an empire that is not evil is akin to heresy. So no matter how efficient the empire was, they had to be made evil

Asimov's science fiction series (which I should point out are highly influential in Star Wars) were protrayed their empire as relatively benign. It depends on the media. Also, WH40k [s]arguably[/s] has the imperium of man as the good guys.

>>166928

>It happened because that's what the Nazi party ran on. Antisemitism and taking back the land.

It was mainly 'better living conditions' and 'make the Germans feel good/proud again' stuff. The Nazis basically abandoned antisemitism in their campaigns because their percentage of votes went down when they only ranted about Jews. Most Nazis in Germany were Nazis for more than antisemitism. In some cases antisemitism was a low priority.

>When at the end he actually managed to seize control from his handlers, he marched the army into Russia. In motherfucking winter.

Early Summer (June 22 or so). Note that thie assumption was the Soviet Union would be defeated in November or so, because most of the Soviet Armies would be captured/destroyefd. That *did* happen but the Soviets made new armies to replace the losses

>Basically he was the figurehead of a military coup. That's what the night of the long daggers was all about. The entire thing was about the military. That's who was running the show. That's why the holocaust happened. The blood thirsty losers of the first world war wanted a second, and they wanted to own every god damn thing.

No, the military was bought into the Nazi government but they werent the main people in charge.

>>166934

>The Emperor was so wrapped up in the Force and it's mysticism that he let the Moffs and his underlings handle most things. This is how most of the anti-alien/anti-women empire shit came to be.

Uh, well when you have 1,000 sectors you kind've have to appoint Moffs. Also, that backlash (anti-alien etc) was due to the Clone Wars and several human worlds which got BDZed (i.e. Humbarine) or wiped out with biological weapons. It's a 'rebuild the human population, and revenge against the aliens who did this to us'. Palpatine appointed non-human moffs also, so arguably Palpatine was a mediating force in the racism the Empire had - him being a Sith and not being discriminatory due to that

>The Empire wasn't perfect but they replaced a republic who couldn't even build an army to protect themselves without someone pulling the strings.

>what is Cloister Coup

>>167218

>faggot follows you with intent to do harm

>surpried when faggot gets his head beat in

>>167540

>Record of assault and robbery

So where is that in his criminal record? lol

>>167773

its legal to kill people if you feel threatened. Following someone for all that time seems pretty threatening.

>>168646

I dunno, I saw star wars when young (8-10 or so) and thought the Vong was bullshit when I heard of it first.

>>168677

You get better at shit by practicing. So fucking more means you're better at fucking.

>>169516

Even in the original EU, the New Republc wasn't exactly stable.

>>169575

originally (as in before the prequels) the clones were the 'bad guys'

>>169633

originally there was supposed to be a big gap between 'the end of the clone wars' and 'the rise of Palpatine'. As in he's is introduced as a Senator YWEARS after the clone wars ends

>>176294

Old Sith had some slick-ass armour. Revan had great taste.