/cow/ - Lolpigs

Why were you in the class?

>>193840

>The last one is a ginger wannabe white-gangster who thinks hes cool but he's really retarded.

>>193842

^

Yeah OP, why are YOU in this class? You mentioned everyone except yourself, you sperg.

>>193844

>>193842

I'm awkward and quiet

>>193845

This reminds me of a time when the elementary school I went to suggested I go on a 2 week long summer camp program that turns out, is for girls who are bi-polar, have depression or just come from a low-income household.

There was one normal person there; a fresh off the boat nigerian girl who could barely speak English. I realised then why I was sent there. I wasn't socially active enough.

When I was first beginning school, they assumed I was retarded, autistic and deaf (seriously) before they realised I was too shy to mention I couldn't see the front of the room. Turns out I needed glasses.

Fuck off, leave quiet kids alone to do their own thing.

>>193848

Do you even know what lolcows are? Because Your story has nothing to do with them. The people you are describing aren't even close to being lolcows either.

>>193848

Sorry if you meant to say that society should leave them alone. I thought you were telling me to fuck off.

>>193853

The entire point of the anecdote is that quiet "awkward" children should not be socialized with people who have actual issues in these types of classes.

>>193855

Sorry, I should have phrased it better!

I was directing my agitation to the school.

>>193858

What decade was this? From what I've seen schools just guilt-trip the parents into forcing the kids on medication now.

>>193860

Ah, mid 90s, although I think the reason why they offered so many special programs, and suggested odd tests that my parents do on me is because I lived in Canada. I assume it's much different, in America.

I hear doctors like to push pills, there, so I can see that.

>>193861

That they do; pills are pushed in every situation.

>>193848

Both you and OP seem like you lack incredible self-awareness. Do you really think they just ship kids off to the "special help" room or class just because you're quiet and shy? I was shy and quiet my entire school life, but I could actually talk and respond to schoolmates and teachers and made plenty of friends. No one ever once thought I was special ed just because I wasn't an extrovert.

If they thought you were deaf, did you just stare dead-faced when people asked you questions or talked to you? If you couldn't see, why didn't you speak up and tell anyone?

That's being on the spectrum and you and >>193845 deserve to be there if you can't handle the most basic of human interaction.

>>194031

>Do you really think they just ship kids off to the "special help" room or class just because you're quiet and shy?

Hm, not only is it the easiest way to deal with "problem" kids like that, but from what I've experienced it's the only way they can think to force these kids to socialize.

I'm curious exactly what is considered a "Special help" room? From what I've seen, those rooms are filled with very low-functioning people, mentally and socially. Actual autism. Not really what OP is talking about. Does it differ from school to school? Probably.

I've reflected back on this, and although I was very young ( 4-6 ) I don't recall any of the teachers taking initiative in class to find out what my issue with classwork was, just discussions with my parents. Even then my family was ardently in disagreement with them on all of their assumptions.

I think we need to consider that low-income schools and private-type schools operate, and treat their students differently. My school had insufficient staffing for the amount of students that went there, and somehow I suspect that might be a factor.

So, I can't agree I'm entirely lacking self-awareness, but at least I understand that I, along with the foreigner who just had trouble with english, were not in the appropriate group. I'm not going to pretend like I had friends in elementary school, though.

>>193840

Fuck your school class OP, I'm more interested in you

>special kid wants to rat out class mates so he'll feel like less of a retard

/thread

My elementary school boarded me on a bus with a bunch of other kids to get free shoes at a Payless because they assumed my family was poor. It also came with a bag of toiletries.

My family wasn't poor. I was just black is all.

>>194060

I teach and that's a load of shit. Schools don't try to force kids to socialize because it requires extra work. Special ed classes are very expensive because instead of putting 30 kids with a single teacher they end up with 10 times as many employees for the same number of students in special ed. And if the student gets good scores then they are throwing federal aid in the garbage by keeping them from taking tests with the rest of their class. And even a student who the school wants to put in special ed might be kept out if the parents don't want them to go.

Some teachers might take a personal interest in making a student more social, but if they are taking that much of an interest in you then they are going to get a decent idea of whether you'll do better surrounded by retards and, again, parents can essentially veto the process anyway.

The only time I've ever seen anything like what you're describing is putting physically injured students into sped PE classes. But they don't just throw students into special ed willy nilly. They need to have a pretty compelling reason (by their own calculus) to go through the whole nightmare of moving a student into the expensive and stigmatizing sped rooms.

>>194060

I think you need to consider you might just be autistic.

That or you're a woman like

>for girls who are

seems to imply.

>>194260

The class only runs for 1 period for the entire day and it only has 6 people TOTAL.

They looked at 2 things for us; social skills and organization skills, and only people with existing IEPs could be pulled into that class.

>>194283

OK, so a special ed class of about 6 people would probably have about 3 or 4 teachers and/or paraeducators. One period would correspond to about 175 man hours a year, so that's about 600 man hours total…

Yep, still sounds like bullshit to me.

As a kid who was placed in special ed math and language arts (English, if you will) classes until the 7th grade, I can say with absolute certainty a child's performance on curriculum strongly determines, if not decides, their inclusion in special education. I was born in the late 80s, so I spent my elementary years with Chicago Math (or Everyday Math) as the leading trend in education. Unfortunately for me, my parents were perplexed by the curriculum, so they had no way of helping me out whenever I brought homework their way. Keep in mind my father is a board certified physician and plastic surgeon and my mother holds a Masters from Northeastern University, so by no means are they mentally incompetent.

Compounding factors included my social awkwardness and the subsequent difficulty interacting with peers. At age 7, a group of kids habitually picked on me at recess, so to fight back, I dropped my pants and pissed in their direction. My family was nearly sued by one of the family, but charges were never laid. I had friends from school who I hung out with regularly on the weekends, so introversion didn't impede me from making friends, no mater how odd a duck I was.

I tested an IQ of 111 as a fifth grader, so by no means was I mentally retarded, but the combined difficulties with homework and social awkwardness placed me there. I was fortunate enough to be taught by a teacher who would later win Teacher of the Year, so kudos to him for saving me from academic failure.

Make of that what you will.

>>194292

Chicago Math? What do you do, calculate how much money it'll take to bribe a politician?

>>194293

>Chicago Math? What do you do, calculate how much money it'll take to bribe a politician?

Oh, I wish! That actually has applicability.

I don't recall any single problem, but I presented it to my parents and they couldn't make heads or tails of it.

>>194031

>defending the actions of an institution that is designed to crush a child's spirit and nothing more

wew. i should note that i had yearly eye exams at school and was always reported to have 20/20 vision from them. i didnt find out i need glasses until i was 12.

>>194260

>I teach and that's a load of shit. Schools don't try to force kids to socialize because it requires extra work

well youre wrong right out of the gate by presuming every school everywhere is the same as yours. i had a teacher who gave me shit for refusing to be friends with some faggot, to the point that she accused me of keeping my friends from befriending him, which is bullshit, and she constantly complained to my mother for not forcing me to befriend this one kid.

ITT

Some autists talk about their school years.

Wew lads.

>>194298

I've taught in the suburbs of San Francisco and in inner-city Detroit… no school anywhere wants to create expensive and complicated programs to force introverted kids to be friends with other students.

>>194295

I got a better one. The Mayor of Chicago is losing by 4 percent in the latest poll. There are 2,000,000 eligible voters in Chicago. How many of the deceased does the Mayor have to put on the ballot to win the election?

>>194306

>put on the ballot

Fuck! I meant register to vote.

This takes me back. Anybody got an archive of the 789chan thread titled something like "your personal lolcows" or "lolcows from school" or something, and every other story started with "So, I was in a special ed class and…"?

OP, have some self-awareness next time. Imagine reading a thread that started with the line "So, I just spent my first night in prison, and I'm shocked! Nothing but thugs and criminals! I'm the only normal one here."

>>194313

>thread titled something like "your personal lolcows" or "lolcows from school" or something, and every other story started with "So, I was in a special ed class and…"?

You just described kiwi farms perfectly

OP please turn this into a slice of life harem anime

>>194292

>>194260

>>194298

I love where this thread has gone. Nice.

>>194302

agreed. BO please delete, there is no lolcow being discussed.

>>193848

>Fuck off, leave quiet kids alone to do their own thing.

This, so many fucking times.

>>194371

I'm sorry. I should have just allowed you to persist in the delusion that you were in special ed because you're too thoughtful and intelligent and not because you're retarded

>>194439

No, I was being candid, I really do like where the thread has gone. All of these anecdotes are interesting.

Also I'm not OP, I was never put into a special education class.

My school had suggested I to go to a summer camp that was, seemingly, mostly suggested to low-income households and girls with depression, bi-polar or have attempted suicide, or just kids with no friends. Like the fresh off the boat Nigerian that was simply unable to speak english well enough to get friends.

[ You really should allow people to persist, though. That's how you get the really juicy stuff. ]

I'm an asperger that was in special ed until tenth grade. I really doubt that these types of programs exist in classes

>>194292

>Compounding factors

Fuck me, it's confounding factor.

>>194371

Doing my best to share some insight.

In elementary school I got away with wearing sunglasses indoors for half a year because I told my teachers I had eye problems. I actually do, but I didn't know it at the time, I just wanted to wear sunglasses

We are just talking homeroom, righ? I have a disorder related to dyslexia and was put in the behavior disorder program, because they couldn't figure it out at the time. Now those were lolcows. Also sociopaths, and what have you. Bullying wasn't tolerated, but it wasn't the teacher who enforced. It was the fucking sociopaths. Most of the time you were in homeroom it was because you had a free hour to study, nap or play Nintendo, with the sound off. It was hilariously lax. Teacher didn't show up half the time. I'm sure they wouldn't get away with that sort of thing these days.

>>195078

>you had a free hour to study, nap or play Nintendo

Goddamn, I wish I was a sociopath now.

>>194031

How the hell could you make friends if you where really introvert and shy?

I remember back in later grades at elementary school how I was mocked for having a gameboy and legos, they also heated how I liked to draw all the time in recess instead of playing soccer and they burn my sketchbook in a trashcan full whit drawings of spaceships and dinosaurs.

I guess you were a big black kid with an humongous penis and everyone worshiped you like if you were a god made of flesh.

>>198548

>and they burn my sketchbook in a trashcan full whit drawings of spaceships and dinosaurs.

uh what

>>194070

That will absolutely happen.