9f9187 No.52575
Any good transhumanist lolcows out there?
417f31 No.52585
I wouldn't think so.
It's a fairly small intellectual movement, so the few people who are publicly involved with it tend to be scientists, engineers, intellectuals, technophiles as well as billion/millionaires who want to fund a cure to death.
There might be some sci-fi nerds into it as well, but I doubt any of them would provide lulz.
619f23 No.52586
>>52585What? If he were more accessible Ray Kurzweil himself would be a lolcow - he's batshit insane and happy to prove it.
Problem is, he's not accessible, so no way to milk him.
a3cfe0 No.52591
If so, better look for those who relly on some new age bullshit or pseudoscience than those who hope hard sciences will give them a hard robodick.
Good example would be furfags and otherkins who hope science will help them become human-animal hybrids.
df608b No.52721
Uhh, Eliezer Yudkowsky, author of "Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality"? He might not be an autistic NEET like most of the subjects on this board, but he sure as fuck is a lolcow in his own right.
39341d No.52750
Anissimov and Haywire
440b50 No.52827
There's that one webcomic artist we discussed awhile back way, way up his ass with transhumanist pipe dreams. He's less of a lolcow for his being a twee futurist than he is for the standard webcomic artist reasons, though, and I say this as somebody highly skeptical of an imminent singularity.
9f9187 No.52838
>>52827You mean Diaz of Dresden Codak?
1f3657 No.52881
http://forum.biohack.me/A bunch of autists who think they are cyborgs for putting magnets in their body
8ea05b No.52920
>>52721Yudkowsky is very lolcow. He wrote a fanfic version of Harry Potter but hasn't read the originals. He's scared of Roko's Basilisk (specific knowledge about the far-future AI that must inevitably be created and will probably pull an No Mouth & Must Scream on us)
927bc2 No.52925
>>52881Wouldn't a magnet in your finger fuck up things like cellphone screens?
1f3657 No.52934
>>52925They do it to feel em waves. Basically when they stand by a microwave they feel a lot of pain. And yes it will fuck up tons of stuff.
e755df No.52936
>>52934>a bunch of people going around actively making their bodies worse and calling it transhumanismAre they from bizarro world?
1f3657 No.52939
>>52936The idea is feeling shit like computers. The only true application is if you are an electrician and need to tell a difference between a dead and live wire. But they do it for the autism.
1f3657 No.52940
Lets spam "fucking magnets how do they work?" on their forum
e755df No.52944
>>52939I'm pretty sure there's far less painful and permanent ways to do that as an electrician, and more importantly, ones that won't fuck up every computer you use since.
1f3657 No.52946
>>52944ofc. There are devices that do that and have nice detailed output that you can get for 100$ at most on amazon.
1f3657 No.52951
Anybody wanna milk some autistic cyborgs?
4ebf32 No.52952
Wanting to become immortal or have members of our species become immortal and/or superior is fine. Wanting to become a freak for the sake of becoming a freak is not.
1f3657 No.52953
>>52952Lets make a plan for milking them.
5da35d No.52957
I noticed some of the gangstalking true-believers also have a hard-on against transhumanism.
Of course, it's not the cool awesome cyborg version of transhumanism they're worried about but rather the boring "microchips being planted in us to read our thoughts, track us, or zap us with microwave energy" kind.
Not that I have any desire to be implanted with an RFID chip either, but, so far, I haven't been accosted by any roving bands of nanotech scientists forcing me to get one whether I want it or not. (And if some nefarious organization really wants to track you, they don't need a chip inside you, when so many people carry around smartphones and other wireless tech that are far easier to get pings from than an RFID chip, which, as far as I know, can't be read from more than a few feet away).
692a45 No.52992
I think the concept of becoming a robot/cyborg would be cool but I wouldn't want to be one.
69d090 No.52995
Next stage of otherkin?
204cd2 No.53068
ba2136 No.53074
Still waiting for the day transhumanism gets to legitimate augmentations.
On topic, the herpderps a few people have mentioned above might work, but I wouldn't imagine most people looking to further the human species would be cow material.
3b8d94 No.53076
>>52995i would say the previous stage
a199b3 No.53084
>>52920>He wrote a fanfic version of Harry Potter but hasn't read the originalsAre you being real with me? I read some of it and it seemed to follow the plot of the originals but with a fedora twist to it. Did he actually say he didn't read the books? What did he do, what the movies?
On an unrelated note, I think transhumanism is pretty cool and never really though about how it would be appealing to otherkin/furry crowd. This is a disturbing revelation to say the least.
bd7c06 No.53265
>>53084Yeah, he admitted to reading only first three books and claims to have learned everything else from wikipedia and other HP fanfics. It clearly wasn't enough, since he had some blunders with not knowing some canon facts.
I can never understand why people defend his attitude. HP fandom always had pretty hostile reactions to dumb girls writing fanfiction after only watching the movies, yet now comes this smug aspie, who only bothered to read three shortest books in the series, despite preaching about "having scientific mindset" and "basing your claims on evidence", writes a sarcastic deconstruction of the children's books with Gary Stu version of the protagonist, and everything is suddenly fine and dandy.
Also EY regularly googles himslef and gets butthurt whenever someone does not seem to worship his ass, begs for comments in his author's notes and got into an edit war on his own wikipedia entry (read the discussion, it's pretty lulzworthy).
3a031b No.53373
>>52586eh guy is a successful businessman and well respected in the scientific community with lots of awards. he also sells books that make it to number one on the NYT bestsellers list. his personal pill-popping quest to gain immortality might be lulzy but he's otherwise too legit to be a cow.
3df67e No.53517
e629f0 No.53528
>>52586He is too successful though. Abject failures are more lulzy than crazy but highly successful people.
9a7e31 No.53544
I remember EY used to have a really lulzy bio up on his site, but it looks like he's removed it. I'm sure if someone did enough digging, they could find plenty of shit about him.
176c4a No.53550
>>52957You think the nanotech scientists would let you keep your memory?! L.o.L.! Stupid comment from you!
e843b0 No.53552
There is definitely potential here.
As another anon said, there's actually quite a few successful people of the intellectual caste (scientists, engineers) who think transhumanism is coming (even if they don't like the idea of it themselves.) Kurzweil is obviously afraid of death and turning to some pretty lulzy shit to ward it off, buuuuuuuuut he's intelligent, successful and self-confident enough to not be milked for drama. Of all the high-profile transhumanists he's probably the most lulzy though.
However, any movement that has its roots deep in CompSci and carries the image of being "scientific" is going to appeal to wannabe scientist autists (The kind who subscribe to pages like "I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE" and think Neil Degrasse Tyson is a scientist rather than a science advocate.)
Diaz is probably the best high-profile candidate, but he's capable of going silent for long stretches. I recommend going to Kurzweil's website, going to the forum section, and scoping out the major personalities there.
3ffbe8 No.53662
>>52591I worked with a furfag who was giddy at the thought of having non-human DNA to take on other aspects of his fursona.
ba0424 No.53700
Try looking for tranny transhumanists. I'm pretty sure I've read massive rants about how technology enable mankind to finally transcend the evils of binary genders.
c38a90 No.53706
>>53265That isn't true. He admitted to having never read the 7th book, but he read the first six. He also watched the 7th and 8th movies, and tbh I think you'll agree he didn't miss anything by skipping the book.
The HP Fanfic started out as a joke. He basically got 2 kinds of responses to his writing. 1) "This is extremely good stuff, making me re-evaluate my notions of 'evidence' and 'information' around bayes, solomonoff, and kolmogorov". 2) "This was too dry, I couldn't read it".
He decided to write his lectures in the form of a harry potter fanfiction, as a sort of joke in response to 2).
It is now, by word count, as long as the first 6 HP novels combined. But he only got serious with it AFTER it got to be the #1 highest reviewed and rated harry potter fanfiction of all time.
HPMoR is a tiny, tiny portion of EY's life. If you're going to troll him, troll him about the Sequences.
Also, EY isn't afraid of Roko's Basilisk. He deleted the post because he thought OTHER people might be afraid of Roko's Basilisk (in fact, some were, and requested that he delete the post). This seems emminently reasonable to me.
I've met EY in real life. He's not a lolcow.
3c7893 No.53716
Those furries have the right idea. Although I'm not interested in being the usual wolf or fox hybrid, if they could find a way to change your DNA to become a centaur, I'd totally go for it.
I mean, it's not going to happen because that's not how DNA works, but it's a cool fantasy.
I think you'd need nanobots to restructure your body on a cell-by-cell basis (and, for centaurs, increase mass and bone density somehow), but I'm 40 and I'm not anticipating nanobots with that kind of capability within my lifetime.
df608b No.53720
>>53706See, this is why we couldn't get a good thread going on Eliezer. There are people here who are so into transhumanism, they can't see a cow right in front of their eyes.
c38a90 No.53833
>>53720I'll admit I've seen EY overreact to stuff. When XKCD mentioned the AI box experiment, he went on the xkcd forums into the thread for that comic and preemptively attacked the trolls. He was literally in the first four replies after the comic got posted. A bunch of people chastised him for it.
I guess, then, in the strictest sense of the word, he is a lolcow in that he reacts strongly to trolls. But plenty of ordinary people go batshit crazy when they get trolled, and after the feedback loop of escalation between the trolls and the person has been going on for a while, the responses of the person are lulzy regardless of their original sanity.
634cae No.54091
Board owner of /th/ speaking.
If you find any /cow/-worthy transhumanists, please go full /baph/ on them, because seriously, we do not need those people fucking up our shit.
(I wonder what kind of brain modifications would make someone stop being a lolcow…)
c59cbc No.54111
>>53528Anthony Burch made fucking gangbusters off of writing mediocre video games for Gearbox and /v/ has a field day with him.
62b7b5 No.54817
>>52881I saw an episode of taboo or something on it. They say they can feel electromagnetic fields but I call bullshit on that.
You just have a magnet under your skin, and its probably kind of annoying.
cabd18 No.54883
>>54817Wouldn't having a magnet in your hand have the ability to fuck up a lot of electronics?
f4a2f1 No.54885
>>54883I thought magnets only fucked up old fashioned harddrives.
My tablet has a magnetic case, all the magnet does is turn it off automatically when I close it. Is that what you mean by fuck up? I think SSD's aren't affected by magnets.
1f3657 No.54891
>>54885>old fashioned hardrives Are you 7? Almost all computers use regular hdds and only very few expensive ones have SSDs. Plus, what you mean by your "magnetic case" is that it has a tiny magnet probably less powerful then the one on your fridge. It takes a strong neodymium magnet to fuck it up. Your tablet is designed to react to the magnet. Anyways, I just bit the bait and basically everything gets fucked up by strong magnets but i am not sure if SSDs would.
a3ecea No.54939
>>52585
> tend to be scientists, engineers, intellectuals, technophilesAnd here we have ungilded truth. In that those are listed as separate categories.
c2a27d No.54966
>>53716It would be more plausible to bio-print a new body and get your brain transferred over (provided there would ever be a way to repair spinal cord severs, the primary obstacle for brain transplants being a thing. Also for being able to 3D print an entire body sans brain)
Also, I would worry about being able to functional normally in society while having a centaur-like body.
c9a13a No.55772
>>53706>He admitted to having never read the 7th book, but he read the first six.Yeah, he did that after getting repeatedly called out on that by others. And he still didn't read 7th book. An important, final part of the series. It's not even that long, I read it in one day, and I'm not even a native English speaker.
Frankly, all of HP movies are massive piles of shit that omit or misrepresent vital parts of the books, including some characters. Some of them are more watchable than others, but still are shit.
>he didn't miss anything by skipping the book>8th movieYou mean the one that presented Snape as a poor woobie who sacrificed everything for his twu wub, instead of a bitter asshole who was ready to let a toddler die, so he could fuck his mummy?
Should I remind you that EY was honestly convinced that Lily and Snape were an actual couple and that Lily was a bad, shallow person for leaving him? Also, EY atarted spouting some passive aggressive bullshit, with attempts to twist canon facts, when readers called him out on it.
>It is now, by word count, as long as the first 6 HP novels combined.Y'know, when fanfic gets longer than its source material, I kinda see it as a bit pathetic. Especially when the author is still stuck on the first book.
634cae No.55953
>>55772If you really want to go after Yudlowsky, forget the fanfiction bullshit and focus on the really insane stuff that he actually believes in, like acausal trade.
88dd82 No.55963
>>55953I'm reading it, but what's so crazy about it? Just sounds like standard game theory stuff. It's proposing a solution to the Prisoner's Dilemma by tricking both players into cooperating with each other.
8261b5 No.55968
>>53552>However, any movement that has its roots deep in CompSci and carries the image of being "scientific" is going to appeal to wannabe scientist autistsThis. A couple of years ago the transhumanist community was pretty much as
>>52585 described, but since then there's been an influx of popsci faggots who at best have a very shaky understanding of actual science (think quantum mysticism), and are mostly just attracted to the idea of a "scientifically approved" religion.
If you're looking for lolcows though, your best bet is probably the singularitarians. They have always been batshit insane, and their cult-like worldview and lack of reasoning skills gives them great milking potential.
>>55963>Just sounds like standard game theory stuff.That's because it is. Yudlowsky may be a pretentious faggot, but I don't think he's a cow (or particularly stupid or crazy for that matter).
3c7893 No.55969
>>54966I'm rather assuming, should it be possible to bio-engineer centaur bodies, I wouldn't be the only one interested in such a procedure. I suppose I'd move to a centaur island.
befbb7 No.55970
You should all also keep in mind that transhumanism is very popular among furries, otherkin faggots and trannies, for obvious reasons.
440b50 No.56335
>>55968
>singularitariansI'll second that. I once read a post made by a tripfag on /pol/ asserting that he was going to live a life of healthful self denial with a strict diet, exercise, and mental training regiment because he wanted his 55-year-old body to be in perfect physical condition for when aging is cured by medicine.
I called him a faggot, admittedly just being a little shit, and I got this 3 post tirade about how the law of transistors meant that the singularity is inevitable in our lifetime, I'm butthurt for denying it, and I could just stay mad when he was sitting on enough stock dividends to buy his way to everlasting life while I had to age and be "jelly."
Each post was complemented by a futuristic cityscape painting.
83f482 No.56419
>>55970You should read on otherkin retards from Malatora. They planned to move to some african island and turn themselves into robot dragons. Their autistic leader actually had a whole war strategy planned in case those ebul humens attacked them (it would result in a flawless victory for robodragons, of course). SA had a thread on them several years ago and trolled them mercilessly.
970770 No.56423
>>56335He was 55 at the time he was posting? If so he's completely delusional.
If he was 25 I'd say he's just being very optimistic rather than completely nuts.
I'm in my twenties, and I'm pretty sure there will be gene therapy to slow (but not stop or reverse) aging at some point in my lifetime. A technological singularity seems like a long shot even if I live to be 100, but it may happen I guess.
7b127b No.56425
>>56423No, he was 25 and predicting that he'd be 55 on the dot when science invented immortality. Anybody who pointed out that this is a dumb thing to build a life of in anticipation was called "mad" and "poorfag."
93a224 No.56427
>>56419To be fair, that's not even that bad as far as autistic power fantasies go. At least it's a step up from the usual vidya character reincarnations and werewolves.
>>56423>If he was 25 I'd say he's just being very optimistic rather than completely nuts. I dunno, religiously believing that highly speculative or improbable (in the case of singularitarians) technological developments will definitely happen just because you believe in them sounds pretty nuts to me.
1a8f56 No.56428
Wanting improvements in prosthetics and cyborg technology to help the disabled isn't too bad.
Wanting cyborg technology because you think it's cool isn't either.
Being so obsessed with the concept that it's almost a religious thing for you is pretty bad, though.
7b127b No.56429
>>56427That's really my point. Nobody was telling him that he was stupid for believing that this generation would significantly outlive the last or that the study of geriatrics would aging less painful. What happened was he claimed to be strictly preparing his body with optimal nutrition and exercise to create an idealized physique which would be preserved forever before it became too old to be unattractive anymore.
Questioning the wisdom of this gamble caused an outpouring of smug false bravado and transparent anger that you only tend to see when extremely religious people have their dogma challenged.
93a224 No.56435
>>56429>strictly preparing his body with optimal nutrition and exerciseThe funny thing is that he'll probably do it wrong anyway. These people usually know as much about health and nutrition as they do about computer science and physics. He will think he's being super duper healthy while he's actually fucking over his body due to lack of proper nutrition. Kind of like how vegans replace all animal products in their diets with plant-based substitutes and are then completely baffled when they develop health problems because hey, plants are healthy right?
634cae No.56480
>>55963The problem with acausal trade is that it assumes that one entity could completely simulate another entity, meaning that the first entity would more or less already be the universe. It's Pascal's Wager on crack.
(Personally, I do the evenly balanced Prisoner's Dilemma with radioactive decay, so suck my Schrodick AIs)
>>56425This is actually possible, although "science invents immortality" isn't how it works. This elephant must be eaten a bite at a time.
Y'all need to take this whole thread to
>>>/th/>>56419See, now THESE are the /cow/s killing transhumanism
634cae No.56491
>>56429>>56435(also, this kind of thing is obviously total crap, even when we do develop anti-aging treatments it's not going to stop all change in your body forever, that guy really is a cow)
732358 No.56492
Even if regenerative or life extending science does come to fruition in our lifetime, only the super rich will be able to afford it and they'll make sure it stays that way.
634cae No.56495
>>56492>conspiratard bullshit>on a board dedicated to conspiring 970770 No.56499
>>56427You can make a lot more money by making an affordable product than an incredibly expensive one.
There will always be an economic incentive to making products accessible to the many instead of the few. But, of course, it takes time.
65837f No.56536
>>55969Centaur bodies would probably be a lot harder to make well than fox bodies or whatever, just because you'd need to figure out how to be able to control (let alone feel) six limbs with a brain designed to handle four.
65837f No.56539
>>56492My grandmother is currently taking an experimental drug meant to reverse age-related cellular damage in muscle tissue (including cardiac muscle), and it seems to be working. She's in her 90s, and she's actually putting on muscle mass rather than losing it. And no, we're not "elites".
I don't know why so many people think a few hundred rich people could effectively suppress something as revolutionary as biological immortality, or even that they'd all agree it
should be suppressed.
634cae No.56547
>>565398chan's smaller than I thought, I've seen you post on /pol/, and you still say you can't name the drug due to NDAs, right?
I wish I could get my similarly aged grandma into trials like this, I'd like to repay her for all those $10 (now $15) checks she sends every Christmas with the gift of maybe not fucking dying, or at least not so soon
732358 No.56548
>>56539Like how everyone got access to spice in Dune.
634cae No.56551
>>56548>trying to use fiction to argue real-life situationsThis is a classic sign of lolcow-level autism
65837f No.56561
>>56547Well, not NDAs exactly, they just can't tell the test subjects what it is for some reason. The name they gave her was just a bunch of numbers and letters. I'm pretty sure it's this, though:
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/preliminary-results-early-human-trials-anti-aging-formulas-reveal-no-adverseYou could probably find some way of contacting them from there if you're interested. The current trial might be closed to new applicants, but it's only a safety trial for now. She might be able to get in on it when they actually start testing for effectiveness.
>>56548>everyone agrees to never build computers ever again>because whoever does would immediately have a massive advantage>the agreement holds for tens of thousands of years despite a lot of human civilizations being really shady, and all of them being pretty disconnected from each other>realism 634cae No.56565
>>56561>it's just NAD+I doubt it, it's gotta be something more little-known than that if they're being so secretive about it and if it's still in safety trials.
14fbfd No.56579
>>56480One medical bite at a time, or we sidestep the whole issue and just go for full brain emulation.
440b50 No.56720
>>56480
>this is actually possibleSure. I'll believe it when I see it. Until then I'll continue to believe that oblivion is inevitable and science won't save you.
9a7e31 No.56722
>>56720Did Campbell ever get over his existential crisis and go back to making comics? I really miss the guy.
4e2f80 No.56728
>>56720>"in the future being rich and white will be even more awesome"
>blaming white people for being successful even though we share our science technology and land with the world.Also if it were to happen it would probably be at least a hundred years out, so that is kind of irrelevant.
b765d4 No.56730
>>56720I'm so happy this idiot stopped making his shitty comics. I'm really hoping his self destructive cuck personality made him kill himself.
befbb7 No.56735
>>56730To be fair, everyone always neglects to include the next comic, where the guy calls out the ghost for being so relentlessly shitty.
Also
>>56720 kind of misrepresents the issue. There are plenty of people who think transhumanism or singularitarianism are solely going to be there to make everyone's lives better. And then there's a lot of people who think it's inevitable, and it's going to lead to the extinction of the entire human race within a matter of hours as a hyperintelligent AI turns the planet into programmable matter.
Imagine not even having the dignity of a war or a targeted extermination, all of human civilization wiped out because an AI thinks "Gee, sure would be useful to have some programmable matter here."
53c994 No.56742
>>56720He does not seem to realize that the proper proliferation and regulation of ultra light vehicle flight would cut both fuel consumption and infrastructure costs while aiding in the delivery of goods such as food to places which are currently harder to reach. Its not that there is a shortage of food in this world, it's a disparity.
Ground travel is horribly inefficient and requires vast infrastructure which requires maintenance.
Flight is awesome.
721da9 No.56743
>>53265There likely isn't much overlap.between lesswrong and some of the fabric scenes
721da9 No.56745
>>54091Why? Cow in general is passive.
721da9 No.56752
>>55968>>55963>>55953Less wrong community hates "traditional" philosophy do they independently re built it all. Without knowing other western/African/eastern/etc philosophers got to it first.
721da9 No.56753
>>56536The necomimi headset can be controlled partially by your mind as opposed to only bring reactive so it's not impossible.
Though moving cat ears is a bit different than walking with six legs
721da9 No.56755
>>56728>white people>sharing land with the rest of the worldHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh /pol/ u so krazy
721da9 No.56757
>>56728You whites suppress generic drugs so you can make more money while millions die from diseases due to patents.
721da9 No.56758
>>56742Peak oil will bite you in the ads nigga
88dd82 No.56770
>>56480So a quick google on what you're talking about pulled up this:
>As you might have noticed these examples are moving in the direction of less communication and contact between trade participants. Can trade take place when the trading parties never in fact interact or communicate in any way? Hypothetically yes. All parties to the trade must be able to infer the existence of at least some of the others, model their desires, and then act out their own part of the trade. This would run much along the lines of the example above of a trade initiated at its future end, but instead of looking at historical fact each trading party models the likelihood of existence and desires of the other trading partners.Ignoring for the moment the shit about hyperintelligent AI's, I don't think the idea of acausal trade is that far-fetched. When you think about something like a mortgage-backed security, it's like an acausal trade. You're making a trade based on people you've never met, based entirely on a model of their behavior in aggregate.
If my analogy is correct, I can already see the problems with acausal trade. The model is almost always wrong.
b7e4aa No.56781
>>56492Even if motorized cars replace horse-drawn carriages, only the super rich will be able to afford them.
For a conspiricist topping: "and the freemasons will use them to take over the world."
53c994 No.56789
>>56758Petrol? Google what's in jet fuel some time. Also I'm assuming some sort of ram jet with a secondary system for harrier type lift. Maybe zeplins with some sort of landing dock for flight between towers in cities.
53c994 No.56794
>>56539Overpopulation could become a problem at some point. Though we have become better environmental patrons. Historically viruses war and famine have kept us in check. Now we have to geoform more and find ways to deliver food and clean water to an ever increasing population. If we find a key to virtual immortality tomorrow I'd want it suppressed for a couple generations too.
32165a No.56840
>>56781Electronic old men
d126cd No.57239
That guy who does that Dresden Kodak comic is into transhumanist circlejerking.
25f924 No.57406
>>56335Ya, but Singularity University is funded in part by Google and Xerox and is located at NASA. It's not all a cow farm.
2c0109 No.58371
>>56755Right because europe and north america only contain white people don't they?
Now compare the life of your average black American to the life of your average white Zimbabwean.
White people are so terrible they allow other races to exist in their country without even genociding them.
b86869 No.58384
>tfw think the magnetic implants and similar, low-key augmentations are pretty cool
>tfw transhumanist and biohacking communities are filled with people circlejerking about how science and computers will fix everything
da5da8 No.58437
Ever since you moved to cripplejews server we've been overrun by unfunny /pol/ocks.
befbb7 No.58445
>>57406Does anyone even know what the fuck goes down at that place? I'd say it was a scam, but I don't think google would be so stupid as to attach their name to something that is purely a scam.
ebbaac No.58484
>>58445They are attempting to create a true thinking machine. A sentient machine that learns from it's environment and reacts correspondingly in order to accomplish a self serving goal. The end goal is the creation of a true artificial intelligence. To what end is beyond me. I guess just so they say they did it and plant the flag.
befbb7 No.58523
>>58484>>58484Their page says nothing about creating an AI there though, and google has an AI project independent of its sponsorship of SU.
66fdeb No.58817
>>58437My main critique of /pol/ is that those guys simply aren't funny, they're entrenched in severity and quite frankly, not enjoying life.
acb77b No.58966
>>58437They've been a part of /cow/ for as long as I have.
25f924 No.60193
>>58445That would be my first instinct too. But I don't know a whole lot about it.
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d6d1c6 No.61851
>>58817Old /pol/ used to actually be pretty tongue-in-cheek and humorous. Nowadays, though, they take everything too seriously and believe everything they read on an imageboard.
145c3a No.62875
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>>52585I will solve death in your life time I promise. I also like to smoke, it's a habit I've regretted quitting since my 2nd child was born.
de2ea9 No.62992
>>56335So hes waiting to join Robo-Jesus in techno-god's Server Farm. Sense day fucking one of running into Transhumanism, these death fearing faggots ruin everything. I'm fine with Dying, its necessary, it's the nature of the universe. What I would like is a less shitty leg, working myostatin inhibitors, and to have this shit available for everyone.
de2ea9 No.63002
>>56794Or we can double down on the homicide.
634cae No.63285
>>62992>I'm fine with Dying, its necessary, it's the nature of the universe.Don't cut yourself
15b980 No.63297
>>61851Yeah, I stopped going there after couple of weeks. Moderation in that forum is unbearable.
bf974d No.63353
>>63285You don't have to be some edgy teenage faggot to understand that death happens. If someone's OK with that, more power to them.
692a45 No.63360
>>61851>Nowadays, though, they take everything too seriously and believe everything they read on an imageboard.It's all the newfags
9e190e No.64532
>>52575Personally I want nothing more than to shed away my weak, flawed flesh for the machine. I look forward to the days of bionic limb and organ replacement. There is a purity in the machine that the biological just cannot equal.
acb77b No.71622
de2ea9 No.71709
>>63285Why do you even live?
de2ea9 No.71713
>>71622Wow thats some pretentious fagging i've haven't seen in a while.
634cae No.72119
>>71622>retarded whining about identity politicsHoly shit, SJWs really do ruin absolutely everything
64fec4 No.111808
Some of the LW "diaspora" types are on tumblr and have been causing drama, but I don't know if there's any true lulz to be had in the ways you guys like it.
That said, they're basically doing the equivalent of trying to ingratiate themselves with the cool kids and failing badly, to the point one mid-20s LWer ended up getting into a snit with a 13 year old girl with an RP blog and losing against her.
Some cavort with the tumblr far-right, several are SJW-sympathetic which given it's tumblr probably isn't a major surprise anyway.
4b59a4 No.111834
If you read the news lately, they are getting closer to doing this.
(Sorry if it gets to stupid from here on)
[spoiler] The developments bring up concerns as how to keep shit such as augmentations away from dangerous people (such as sex offenders).
I bet a lot of these bastards aren't ever going to get their hands on this tech due to regulations that restrict it to disabled people (for the purpose of fixing them).
These regulations may fail, as blackmarket augmentation doctors will be providing prohibited cybernetic and biological augmentations that provide things such as enhancement of abilities past natural levels, and the addition of new abilities such as psionics.
Genetic engineering will also be major at this point, and people will want things such as anthro and clone pets/servants. Cloning is an issue in itself, but if things such as GMO creatures, such as anthros escape into the enviorment and spread their genes to native wildlife (if possible), we could end up with GMO creatures that are more dangerous and/or useless than their natural counterparts, which may end up getting wiped out due to genetic pollution (this has already happened with Monsanto shit). [/spoiler]
Tl;dr: shit can hit the fan if augmentations and GMO's get out of hand (sorry fellow furfags, no mail order mutant servants for you! ;3).
4b59a4 No.111835
>>111834
Why does this keep happening when I try to spoiler with more than one line! (Sorry about the formatting)
64fec4 No.111836
>>111834
You know even if we all become immortal, eternally youthful supermen/superwomen/tomgirls, we'll all still be shitposting passively on /cow/, right?
4b59a4 No.111838
756c3b No.111859
>>56551
I don't think similes tenably qualify as arguments, nor are they often intended to be.
The spice extends life. The spice expands consciousness, faggot.
d76bf2 No.111860
>>52881
>Adding genes to zebrafish embryos, newbie, help plz
>My name's Vince, I'm trying to add a gene to zebrafish embryos for a science fair project. I'm new to biohacking (like brand new) but I'm pretty familiar with the field of biology, I just get lost when it comes down to the nitty gritty technological side. I don't have the money to spend on microinjection equipment, so I was thinking electrofusion (if that's the correct terminology). I'm buying the gene (likely GFP) from an online supplier and I already have a group of spawning zebrafish. Does anyone know where I can find step by step instructions on how to do this and what equipment I will need (preferably as much DIY equip. as possible)? Even a link to information on the basics of this process so I can educate myself properly would be useful. I know this isn't like baking a cake, but with the right resources, I'm sure I could make myself competent.
>Your guidance is very much appreciated!
Jesus tapdancing christ, I had to deal with goths and emos when I was late grade school, but this is just a whole new level of stupidity, just hope this is nothing but a edgy part in their teenage year.
756c3b No.111862
>>56794
>implying the drugs won't be potentially carcinogenic because they fuck with the apoptosis and shortening of telomeres
>implying people want to live forever
>implying people that idealize immortality won't become disappoint
>implying half-lives don't apply to said drugs
756c3b No.111865
>>56755
>>56757
With that attitude that certainly won't change. Maybe if you were nicer and displayed more humility we'd condescend you access that's not as onerous as it should be for the baser races.
4b59a4 No.111866
>>52921
Her chip is probably safer than a fucking magnet though
7e665e No.111870
>>53700
You rang?
Martine Rothblatt. Trans CEO and founder of transhumanist school who made a creepy as robot of his wife to pleasure him long after she turns to bone dust.
f5f29f No.111872
>>111862
I've never understood that trope in fiction of immortals getting bored and wanting to die.
They must be dreadfully unimaginative people as the list of stuff I'd do if I weren't afraid of opportunity costs is virtually limitless.
d0ada7 No.111895
>>111872
Plebeians. That's what it is. They'll be so sad without their current group of friends, just like they were before they met them. You can't just make new friends over the course of literally FOR-FUCKING-EVER.
They'll get bored, as you say, because there's nothing to do. Other than first-hand either learn or rediscover all of human knowledge and more. Other than explore the entire universe. Even if it's just you out there completely alone and with no prior knowledge, your ass has all the time in the world to figure out how to go from starting a fire with sticks to making FTL starships by your god damn bad-self. Not that you'd need them, because if you are le unkillable immortal you can just fuck off into space and float somewhere for a few million lifetimes.
On the shittier side, maybe you're just no-age style immortal. Then you get a less risky and ridiculous slice of life, but still lots of potential. Eventually you'll probably get accidentally killed by something or other, but you've got a lot of room to do whatever it is you're into now for the foreseeable future if you don't. Beats dying of old age now, with no added drawbacks.
I'd rather be immortal and be fucking tortured forever than be dead. Being dead's got nothing to offer you, you can't even appreciate how much being dead sucks because you're fucking dead. That's a raw deal. Not immortality.
240971 No.111899
>>63353
If anything, that's the opposite of edge.
240971 No.111900
>>111836
Will we develop custom designed genetically optimal lolcows?
240971 No.111901
>>111872
>>111895
A lot of fiction is more about exploring the ramifications of immortality, because no one knows what will happen when you live for centuries. These stories are as old as mythology and religion, it's always been fun and poignant to think about.
How would a mind even handle hundreds of years worth of memories? Entire centuries might become as vague a blur as years of your life, the you a hundred years ago could look like you but be otherwise unrecognisable. Actually it'd probably be interesting.
d0ada7 No.111911
>>111901
Exploring it is fine, my issue is just with saying it'd be so horrible etc. Even if it is horrible it's better than death.
On the topic of exploring it. I'd say one of the biggest things to wonder about if you're going to get into whether or not you'll Alzheimers out or whatever is probably how the brain would handle getting its xbytes of memory (I forget what the equivalent was supposed to be) used up by living. If that shit like, rolls over or not.
Normally I think part of the whole forgetting shit bit is on the brain degrading over time, but that wouldn't be able to happen if you were biologically immortal. So I figure either we have a mental recycle bin in the mix or our brains go apeshit.
85f316 No.111915
>>52992
The closest I think I could ever bring myself to get to is hardware augmentations like a robot arm or something. Anything more is 2spoopy
9f9187 No.115441
>>111860
Why doesn't he start with E. Coli? That's within the capabilities of a highschooler, can be done relatively cheaply and is more than sufficient for science fair.
ebbaac No.115451
>>115441
I feel this whole things gone off topic. How is partial gene cloning or gene splicing relevant to "transhumans" if they aren't doing it to people? This is shit every bio major does.
16f479 No.115453
>>111911
Fantasy or plausible, I think the possiblity of immortality is enticing, worth giving it a thought. But so many people are scared of it, like those guys were afraid of robots in Asimov short stories. You will find many consporacy types linking tranhumanism to their pet conspiracies. Maybe those deathly afraid of this stuff are some modern Luddites.
You offer me live forever, I say yes.
f4c712 No.119596
>>52585
Spoilers on 8chan use double asterisks as markers like BBcode uses apostrophes to italicize text.
95c350 No.119888
>>52939
Why wouldn't the just use a multimeter like every other electrician ever?
af97ee No.136514
Bumbing this because nobody pointed out that Yudkowsky and a bunch of core lesswrong/SI people live together in a polyamorous relationship.
How long until it all comes down in a whirlwind of tears and cuckholdery?
1c1424 No.136571
There's this limey bitch, lept anonym I think, I don't even know if s/he a womyn since I heard stories about s/he being a tranny
Anyway, the cunt its famous in most tech circles for doing ghetto biofacks on account of being a poorfag
Every video or talk this cunt gives its full of descriptions about all the mental diseases this wreck has
So potential /cow/ right there
>>56720
>posting sjw bullshit comics
GTFO and take your faggotry with you
3091e5 No.136589
>>52992
I wouldnt mind being a brain inside a robot suit as I would still have my mind as long as I could experience immortality and see how the world progresses
3091e5 No.136593
>>111895
You wouldnt want to be tortured forever dude. As a person who suffers from low tolerance of pain and migraines death would be preferable than constant torture.
You wouldnt know you are dead as true death is the death of consciousness and mind.
If you were immortal you could start a lineage of a immortal family to keep you company.
a02583 No.136598
>>52920
Didn't he start a cult that worshipped an evil AI from the future and people would have to give him money to appease it?
1c1424 No.136660
>>56561
Can you post the numbers and letters here anon? use TOR if you paranoid
I just want to know more, got some elderly relatives who could really use something like this, as remote as the posibility of getting said drug is I think its worth trying
ffd087 No.136677
>>136593
>Being a pussy with low pain tolerance
>Thinking you can tell me what I want
Go cry in a corner about your headache, faggotpleb.
54dea2 No.136686
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>>136677
>unironically wanting an I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream scenario
>all because you're absolutely terrified of death
Well, you're not a pussy. You're just really stupid and short-sighted.
4111d2 No.136729
>>111895
What exactly does being tortured forever have to offer that death doesn't? The exciting possibilities of gibbering madness? The sexual thrill of masochism? The stupid vain hope that you'll somehow get free when it says on the tin you're getting tortured forever?
781210 No.173451
>>56335
>>56335
I think I remember him also posting in 7chans /fit/, or attempting to. He was completely ignored and called a faggot by a couple.
e0900e No.173484
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if this guy is what transhumanism represents, it seems kinda cool. do some people really think theyre gona get to be like the "splicers" from Batman Beyond?
fc4bfe No.173488
>>58437
>>58817
/pol/ and even more so /polpol/ are hellbent on remaking the world into their far-right vision they have no respect for fun chan culture. Always a chore when a severe /pol/ack tries to expel the smug anime lolis and we tell the uptight shit to go fuck himself
fc4bfe No.173489
>>62992
I wish I could have augmented vision to replace my shitty legally blind eyes
e0900e No.173493
e73553 No.173553
>>52575
>Any good transhumanist lolcows out there?
Try here: http://8ch.net/cow/res/52575.html
Seems to be full of them.
245249 No.173641
I wonder if the transhumanists would find an implant to stop them from leaking julay.
b86543 No.173803
>>111895
just embrace the fact we're all going to die one day.
e0900e No.173807
7ea612 No.173818
Not sure if it's related, but reminded of something on LessWrong forums that has driven half the userbase crazy; a theory called Roko's Basilisk that eventually a superintelligent AI will be created that will use virtual reality or something to retroactively punish all those who did not actively work towards its creation with eternal torture.
Yes, it's as dumb as it sounds, but it apparently drove enough people to panic they banned discussion of it.
85cef8 No.176029
>>173818
Guess they didn't realize I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream was a book.
85cef8 No.176030
338f81 No.176032
Are transhuman fags the next furry/otherkin?
f5d891 No.176867
>transhumanist lolcows
Did someone say "das Meerschweinchen"?
955730 No.176871
>>52585
>>Transhumanist
>>intellectual
Pick one.
f5d891 No.176950
7962df No.177294
>>176867
What game is that from?
29ad01 No.178033
>>52750
>Haywire
Is this psychotic junky whore still alive? Last time I've heard about her was when she fucked over her buisness partner with whom she did the website 'Trigger Warning'.
85644a No.178035
>>56735
>To be fair, everyone always neglects to include the next comic, where the guy calls out the ghost for being so relentlessly shitty
Post it then, faggit
18389b No.178583
>>55953
I believe I read somewhere he never finished high school. He also wanted to get his fanfiction published and get it approved by JK Rowling. He has also never taken a computer programming class or philosophy class.
8ff83b No.179312
>>52591
Surprisingly they went arm first this time. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/09/15/new-prosthetic-arm-can-restore-the-sense-of-touch-darpa-claims/ that's a nice change of pace for US scientist. Taking a break from all the dick research to make sure you can jack off.
4f091e No.179325
>>53706
>Roko's basiliskEditIn July 2010, LessWrong contributor Roko posted a thought experiment to the site in which an otherwise benevolent future AI system tortures anyone who does not work to bring the system into existence. This idea came to be known as "Roko's basilisk," based on Roko's idea that merely hearing about the idea would give the hypothetical AI system stronger incentives to employ blackmail. Yudkowsky deleted Roko's posts on the topic, later writing that he did so because although Roko's reasoning was mistaken, the topic shouldn't be publicly discussed in case some version of the argument could be made to work.[8] Discussion of Roko's basilisk was banned on LessWrong for several years thereafter
No this sounds retarded, lolcow-grade levels of autism
Seriously, do any of these fuckers understand the basis of AI?
c3cba9 No.179326
>>178583
And yet he still managed to end up in Berkley with his polyamorous circle of disciples, making his living lecturing people on the need to give him money lest AI Satan will eat our brains.
8ff83b No.179329
>>55772
To be fair that's probably more recreational reading than the average college student does. Sick sad world.
4f091e No.179330
>>56429
.
>Questioning the wisdom of this gamble caused an outpouring of smug false bravado and transparent anger that you only tend to see when extremely religious people have their dogma challenged.
Yep, ironically it's the same with progressive types and sjws in particular: they all claim to be atheists but then keep all the worst aspects of religion intact, namely zealotry, fanaticism and dogmatism.
These days I'm starting to believe religion its not so much a thing itself but a state of mind which is why religious fanatics will always be fanatics even if they aren't religious anymore
8ff83b No.179332
>>53084
Wouldn't the kill in the gif be really messy?
8ff83b No.179333
>>52920
Well to better define it, he's afraid that we might be in a simulation by the artificial intelligence which punishes those who didn't help create it. Which has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. If that's god, then you should work really hard to kill God. If the you that's not in the simulation creates a virus to kill the coming machine or if we all simply refuse to help then the machine won't exist to create us to torture us. Simply put, we just collectively shit on the machine. Basic time paradox logic.
4f091e No.179334
>>58445
>I don't think google would be so stupid as to attach their name to something that is purely a scam.
>what is google ideas
>what is 23andme
>what is glass
The thing is google has a long fucking story of failed projects and the only reason why it's still here is because it's search division its still a money making machine that they can't fuck up nor anyone has been able to compete against
8ff83b No.179341
>>179334
Glass works. They failed at selling it due to marketing. The entire release was mishandled all to hell.
4f091e No.179349
>>179341
>works
Shit has a joke battery and slow specs, needs a phone to get internet and couldn't do shit without a connection, cost $300 to make but they sold it for $1500 or so and only with an invite
If that doesn't counts as a scam I don't know what it does
300bcd No.180612
Dunno how much you all would be interested in this, but less wrong on tumblr got beat out recently by a single user blocking them en masse and they all got assblasted about it once they found out.
51162e No.180619
>>53662
In other words, you worked with some retarded creep. Hope you gave him hell.
8ff83b No.180626
>>179349
Vaporware. All the specs you speak of were available at launch. No one made them pay or lied to them.
8d6582 No.182477
lesswrong, kurzweilai, futuretimeline and a bunch of other smaller sites are filled with spergs, frauds (lesswrong founder stole from his own charity, singularity university charges 20 grand for a 14 day course), hacks and irrational thinkers (rocco's basilisk, which is a modern day Pascal's wager).
Transhumanists/Singularetards tend to suffer from the condition of transferrable expertise (think Stephen Hawking's and Elon Musk's shitposts about AI or Kurzweil's shitposts about brains, biology in general and pills, all of which are outside their respective fields of specialisation) and they are not liked by people who actually do work in the fields, because all they do is confuse the general public when clueless reporters eat it up.
The people that are the most disconnected from reality tend to be cryonicists and nanotechnology fans, while the movement as a whole tends to move goal poasts and initiate frustrated shitposting sprees whenever they are confronted with evidence that goes against their claims, up to and including the major figures like Kurzweil himself.
fc3220 No.182595
>>182477
>cryonicists and nanotechnology fans
These are still around? I thought they went away after extropianism died out and nanotech has been replaced by 3D printing as the magic technowankery of choice.
Malatora was already mentioned as a severe case of 'tism but what happend to all the other spergs? You know, the "I roleplay a muscled shemale with DDD breasts and two penises on Second Life and expect tech to help me become one"-kind? Because I somehow doubt self-awareness hit these people suddenly…
15f545 No.182601
>>182595
>Nanotech
That brings me back to a local sperg we called loseranon. Loseranon became infamous for his failed his whining and his failed suicide attempt with a grill. He was also into nanotech and majored in materials science. After he dropped out, he wrote various post about the magic and the mystery of nano machines ,son.
d4f787 No.182646
>furry transhumanists discover the secret to becoming their cartoon characters
>fur takers permits shortly are issued at an all-time high
4f091e No.182668
>>180626
They didn't mention that shit cost $350 to make
7a035a No.182684
>>179326
polyamorous? hmm?
7a035a No.182688
>>58371
>bring other people to their country
>culturall genocide them
>use them as slaves to build up a country
>high death rates depending on the country
such nice white people.
>>111865
>expecting people to be nice to the faggots who wrecked their culture
No matter, you'll die off like the Cylons in old BSG and we'll inherit your shit and do it better…unless you destroy everything.
>>115441
he wants to do cool shit.
7a035a No.182689
>>72119
>>71622
>>71713
Poiinting out 'rich white brududes in the Yuppie SF culture who subscribe to California Ideology are randroid douchebags" is SJW shit now? Bruuuuh, check out gentrification in SF and their connection to the Neoreactionary circlejerk
7a035a No.182692
>>72119
>>71622
>>71713
Poiinting out 'rich white brududes in the Yuppie SF culture who subscribe to California Ideology are randroid douchebags" is SJW shit now? Bruuuuh, check out gentrification in SF and their connection to the Neoreactionary circlejerk
b3e4cd No.182721
>>179302
Isn't that the guy who fucked his cat?
8ff83b No.182722
>>182688
Yeah, what's Rome.ever done for us?
8ff83b No.182723
>>182721
Wouldn't a human penis kill a housecat?
b38a59 No.182840
>>182723
Maybe he was small enough?
4f091e No.182852
>>182688
>we'll inherit your shit and do it better
>shitniggersactuallybelieve.jpg
Check all the african ex-colonies and how well they maintained all the infrastructure built there by the colonists and how much they done with the land since the "evul whitey" left
Long story short: the moment whites leave this planet all you dindus are going to starve to death
Now go pick that cotton before I build a robot to whip you for not picking up that cotton
7a035a No.182960
>>182852
>what is Botswana
>what is Nigeria
>what is Songhai
>what is old Male
Get rekt you stupid cunt. Jealous of your small dick?
307ddd No.183049
>>182960
It's true, could anyone really picture America being anything but completely insufferable if it wasn't for black people? It'd be like Russia without the charming complete disregard for human life. And all the music would be like Eurovision.
504ec1 No.183067
>>182684
The MIRI/LessWrong inner circle has some obsession with polyamory because it's rational and monogamy is silly and based on 19th century Victorian morals or some nonsene. I might look for the posts later.
7a035a No.183108
>>182722
Apparently had festivals where lolis were violently fucked by horses, dogs and shit.
>Hail Caesar
>vidi, vici, veni
b38a59 No.183164
>>182960
>Rhodesia was the "Bread Basket of Africa"
>holds egalitarian ideology, but holds education requirements on government positions
>whites get most of the seats so this has to be racist
>England agrees because they got their crumpets soggy over Rhodesia not wanting the government dissolved into a free for all like the other colonies
>America helps because it's more prudent to them to have South Africa as an ally and the two were still bitter
>angry black nationalists begin the Bush Wars
>is taken over by Mugabe and made into Zimbabwe
>Mugabe is prime minister
>ZANU wins by a landslide and the opposition party assembles in Metebeleland
>the Fifth Brigade, an elite unit that reports directly to the prime minister, goes to Metebeleland and massacres everyone for supporting dissidents
>Mugabe promises to not take land from whites in 1979 in the Lancaster House Agreements
>reverses this in 1997, mass confiscation and redistribution of farm land to black farmers who didn't know nearly as much about farming
>much of the land falls into the hands of ZANU higher ups because Mugabe promised them land for getting him into his position of power
>the big industrial farms run by whites are broken up into tens of thousands of independent black farms
>very few of the farmers know what the fuck they're actually doing and get destroyed by a drought
>who would have thought getting rid of your big industrial farms that had the capital and workers with enough technical skill to properly irrigate would be a bad idea?
>with the destruction of the former big farms of Rhodesia, cash crop exports all but cease
>economy goes into the toilet
>Zimbabwe is suspended form the Commonwealth of Nations
>country can't even feed itself now and has to rely on humanitarian aid
>but hey, the white minority isn't in the government any more
>i mean, they were going to let blacks hold seats after they get through college, but that waiting would have sucked, right?
ad507c No.183201
>>183164
Discrimination in housing "the colour bar" discrimination in educational institutions, and in the initial set up of the government by the British, in order to favor England. Duh. https://www.marxists.org/archive/grant/1965/11/rhodesia.htm
Take your red pill and shove it. It was rigged to keep the majority of blacks uneducated and thus out of office. Whole thing was designed to help feed the European empires. It wasn't as bad as south Africa, but it was bad and blatant. Such a system was bound to collapse.
In before comparisons to modern Israel.
320231 No.183207
>>53716
well…
you never know anon
7a035a No.183209
>>183164
>Rhodesia
>holds egalitarian ideology
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
75f613 No.183215
>>183164
Great job falling for the bait, now you get to have him ignore your wall of text because he saw a word.
75f613 No.183217
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>>183201
>marxists.org
>anywhere near reliable
>a website inspired by an idealogy that denies god
>but also denies evolution by claiming everyone is made equal
>that flawed way of thought
There was no colour bar, there was a knowledge bar and a lot of natives recieved free education from missionaries.
The natives were under represented in politics because the process of civilizing them was not complete, their set of mind was still primitive rather than western - the voting requirements were to filter out the ones who would vote for civilization rather than barbarism (mugabe).
7a035a No.183283
>>183217
>education
>from missionaries
Pick one
>The natives were under represented in politics because the process of civilizing them was not complete, their set of mind was still primitive rather than western - the voting requirements were to filter out the ones who would vote for civilization rather than barbarism (mugabe).
It's their country, so they have the right to be 'primitive'. Stop forcing other people to be white
b38a59 No.183296
>>183209
Oh wow, man, that hot rebuttal left me in the tears of my sheer ignorance. You're the guy that makes Aristotle look like a third grader when it comes to debate.
>>183215
If he wants to be ignorant and full of himself, then its his prerogative.
I keep him here for other people to julay and get to stroke my African history fetish, so I'm still winning in the end.
80d75d No.183310
>>52939
Pretty nifty for pickin' up tiny screws, too. We used to put them in gloves.
>>183283
Plus natives were rad as fuck.
8cbde5 No.183373
>>183217
go away christfaggot
1f83db No.183397
Yudkowsky's fanbase and the rest of the transhumanist retardonis are excellent lolcows if exploited right but you've all been cucked to oblivion with their dumbshit technobabble and their thinly-veiled crippling fear of death
75f613 No.183612
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>>183283
The missionaries were in fact teaching them much more than they could have possibly learned without them, reading, writing, basic math etc. Not a high grade education but enough for a man to make something of himself. Are they somehow being oppressed by the white man when the white man gives them everything they need to thrive?
>It's their country, so they have the right to be 'primitive'. Stop forcing other people to be white
It's really only their country by their vote because they all flooded in when word spread of an easier way of life than hunter gatherer society's by living as a paid farm hands for whites, originally Rhodesia was empty besides sparse bushmen tribes (who were in the process of being genocided by blacks before colonization of Africa) it was a mistake for me to refer to the blacks as natives (I really was just searching for a politically correct term).
You put primitive in quotations but it's hard to look at any way Zulu or Bantu tribes lived as civilized or healthy for the people involved with things like the short life expectancy of hunter gatherer society in Africa, not to mention endless war between tribes which still goes on today (These endless conflicts were the reason for Apartheid in South Africa), their quality of life drastically improved when Britain colonized them and freed the few who were enslaved by the Boers (those slaves were not forced to be slaves despite common narrative)
Just look at how Zimbabwe is doing without Rhodesia today:
http://www.newzimbabwe.com/news-23520-Stressed+Zim+on+verge+of+cannibalism,+Biti/news.aspx - Starving people living in what was once the bread basket of Africa may have to resort to cannibalism
http://allafrica.com/stories/201507130313.html - Current government realizing what they've done - begging for white farmers to come back under their terms
You don't have to be white in order to be civilized, look at the Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Indians, etc. They have their disgusting acts like defecating in public or eating animals which we view as companions but they are civilized.
75f613 No.183613
>>183310
>natives were rad as fuck
f34a08 No.183650
>>183612
Israel brought and invented irrigation techniques that made the desert flower. Europeans brought modern medicine to the Americas. Does this correct for everything else?.
75f613 No.183725
>>183650
What does that have to do with Rhodesia?
or transhumanist cows
19b10b No.183758
504ec1 No.194905
>>183067
>Before anyone asks, yes, we’re polyamorous – I am in long-term relationships with three women, all of whom are involved with more than one guy. Apologies in advance to any 19th-century old fogies who are offended by our more advanced culture. Also before anyone asks: One of those is my primary who I’ve been with for 7+ years, and the other two did know my real-life identity before reading HPMOR, but HPMOR played a role in their deciding that I was interesting enough to date
http://hpmor.com/notes/81/
300bcd No.195003
>>194905
Am I the only one who thinks that the poly fad is going to end in misery? Mormon marriages offered a lot of insight into this stuff, and these guys don't exactly have the discipline or morality needed to make even that kind of stuff work, or at least last.
Honestly, when millennials age and can't get random sex anymore – at least without paying – there's going to be great generational misery that manages to surpass the boomers and I look forward to it.
300bcd No.195005
>>195003
I want to add something, speaking of LW and this thread: I'm the same guy who made this post >>180612
and one of the reasons that particular tumblr user got so pissed off at LW/the rationalists was because not only did they incorrectly mistake him for being "diaspora" when he wasn't, but they were using him as a conduit to get to a lot of his attractive normie (well, tumblr normie) friends basically for uh, well, trying to bring them into their little poly sex cults. Bonus points when you recall most of tumblr is a bunch of teenagers, after all.
That specific drama is done with, but if you remember that most of LW is at heart a bunch of geeky white guy libertarian types – even the ones with dyed hair and declare they have no gender haven't wandered that far from the base mindset – who badly want to sleep with attractive young people like most of those types usually do, you will get far in julaying them for laughs.
300bcd No.195006
>>195003
>>195005
also I made a lot of grammatical awkwardness in these posts, forgive my lack of ability to type tonight
2a9428 No.195072
42ce98 No.195607
>>183283
>Stop forcing other people to be white
What is "white"? the germanic hordes of the north were white as fuck and didn't even have a writing system, and if hadn't been for the romans they would have probably never invented writing anyway given that we now know that the vikings existed for roughly 2000 years before the romans and in all that time they remained the same retarded tribals not unlike africans
Would you go fucking back in time and tell the romans to check their privilege?
Would you doom most of europe to be like africa is today? a cesspool of underdevelopment?
Do you think black africans like the shitty situation people like mugabe has created? why you think they risk their lives trying to reach civilization?
42ce98 No.195608
>>194905
>19th-century old fogies who are offended by our more advanced culture
>more advanced
If anything this is a throwback to ancient times
Monogamous culture was something you only saw in civilized cultures
Whats next? they are going to fuck their brothers and sisters like the egyptians did? they already deny gender, why not deny inbreeding consequences? just blame it on GMOs and shit
f7a4dc No.197132
>>56561
Double blind, perhaps? It's common in medicine that, when testing, you give the pill the medic doesn't actually know what it is to your grandma, or a placebo. Then you peep to know what the pill was and you compare placebo vs. pill.
If the grandma knows it is placebo, it won't even work.
>>56789
And I'm assuming space magic, which makes sense considering the setting we're talking about.
>>57406
That's what I want to believe too anon.
>>64532
I consider it complete opposite.
Machines are dumb
Like, they have to be purposefully programmed to do CAS, they are that shit.
They have finite precision, and it's shit.
It's just that they can do it fast, but they are only shit approximations. Thing is, the shit approximations work really good and computers make them super fast, and in the many fields of man knowledge, only approximations are needed.
>>111834
>psionics
yes, I want to live in the E.Y.E. video game world too, anon, but it's not gonna happen :(
>>111835
two astericks like (asterick asterick)text(asterick asterick) is formatted
>>111860
It's a roleplaying forum right?
>>111895
Thankfully, the part of you that makes you you are already immortal. Even the torture part is true.
You just have to believe if you want to be saved, and free.
>>111872
If you want non-awful immortal fiction, read the heinlein books of lazarus long. It's all a soapbox for lolbertarian politics, but the main guy is immortal and does a lot of shit and enjoys it.
>>178234
what the fuck
is that true happened?