/cuckquean/ - Women Sharing Their Men

I'm no expert, but I've read that a sexually aroused man is more likely to feel loyalty and affection for his woman. This applies even if that sexual arousal was instigated by another woman, and even if that arousal has been satisfied (by sex)

Sexual satisfaction, especially with a new partner, produces confidence and energy.

Confidence, energy, loyalty and affection are all things that women respond to positively. Now consider this: most women who have been cheated on by their partners don't cite the physical sex act as their main objection. Instead, they claim that the lies and the affection their man directed at another woman as the true source of the pain and sense of betrayal. In short, the act of a man having sex with another woman is not nearly as bad as him falling in love with this other woman.

So, a man having sex with lots of partners makes him more virile and loyal as a romantic partner. The physical sex act is not a strong betrayal, so many women without the cuckquean fetish can accept it.

Basically, it's win-win. The man gets lots of sex, and the woman gets a passionate alpha male under her thumb.

>>2166

This is why you always keep the flat in your name not hers or joint.

Of course in most western countries accusing him of abuse when only the two of you were in the room (can't disprove it and until you do the law is against you) will be sufficient to prevent him coming back even if the lease is his.

And you never forgive cheating.

Ever.

>>2169

>And you never forgive cheating. Ever.

This.

Personally from what I've seen in my life, cuckolding does in general end up worse than queaning. However in this particular case I believe it has more to do with your friend making the mistake of forgiving a borderline personality disorder bitch and thinking that things were going to be any different.

I feel for you though, OP. I've had friends go through similar situations with women like this. When your bros hurt, you hurt, that's what most men feel. But at the same time your friend was being a goddamn idiot for taking her back after all the cheating and an EVEN BIGGER idiot for getting involved with her fetish. Maybe your dude did like being cuckolded at first, that's the only reason why I think he would stick around.

He sounds like a nice guy… and that's probably the biggest problem. A man needs to be at least a little selfish most of the time and VERY selfish some of the time, otherwise you end up with this modern generation of effeminate males.

>>2172

Not all cuckolding comes from cheating to be fair.

Some cuckqueaning also comes from cheating and that isn't healthy either.

I think generally cuckolding or cuckqueaning is going to be bad if it isn't dealt with properly much the same as any other fetish.

>>2166

> it is scientifically fucking proven that if a man cheats and gets caught, chances are he won't again, whereas women are WAY more likely to

This is BS until you fill [citation needed]. Someone who cheats once is more likely to cheat again, male or female.

>>2174

That's no doubt, but stats show women are more likely to again. However, the stats for people forgiving cheating is low.

>>2175

>stats show

>the stats

Post a source for those stats. Let's see them.

>>2175

[citation still needed] Show me the source of this research.

>>2174

>Someone who cheats once is more likely to cheat again, male or female.

This is BS until you fill [citation needed].

It also doesn't contradict what you're quoting. Think about it.

Well, from a "normal" US perspective, a woman can't be with a man she doesn't respect. If he concedes that he is not good at The Sex, and encourages her to be emotionally loyal and physically promiscuous, she WILL lose respect for him. She'll come to associate pleasure of all kinds with other men and lose interest in the cuckold.

Getting men for an LTR is very much a contest for women. They compete for providers, however, not lovers. Women are generally satisfied with relationships in which they are provided for, and having to give a man sex herself is like having to pay the rent. As long as they have a roof over their head, they don't care if someone else is paying the rent.

That's a pretty cynical view though.

>>2166

Late to the party, but you should read "The rational Male" by Tomassi.

Basically, the point he make is that women want a man other women wants to fuck. For example, if you were in a relation where your gf wasn't a cuck and didn't want none of that, if you decided to stay true to her and don't look elsewhere, or even aknowledge other women, your relation would eventually fall appart because she wouldn't feel the thrill of the competition anymore.

>>2182

>Getting men for an LTR is very much a contest for women. They compete for providers, however, not lovers. Women are generally satisfied with relationships in which they are provided for, and having to give a man sex herself is like having to pay the rent. As long as they have a roof over their head, they don't care if someone else is paying the rent.

This too. But women generally revert it after marriage, turning sex into a "prize" for being a "good husband" and doing as she says. When a woman knows she's your only source of sex, she use sex to her advantage. When she get anxiety from thinking that you might be looking elsewhere, she'll use sex to try to sell herself to you.

>>2186

>women generally revert it after marriage, turning sex into a "prize" for being a "good husband" and doing as she says.

I would argue that women don't enjoy this arrangement and most relationships that devolve to this will fall apart or generally be unpleasant for all involved. I would also argue that women will enjoy a relationship more if her man resists/rejects/shuts down any attempt she makes to control him.

>>2187

Couldn't agree more with you there. I should've added this, but I was damn tired and english ain't my main language, so really, I was getting lost in my own thoughs as I typed everything.

Really, it's all the matter of being a man or being a betacuck, in the end.

The major problem for men (real ones, that is, because betacucks usually don't make it to marriage) is that most of them play it safe and believe to be set for life once they're married, and the major problem for women is that the thrill is then gone because their man isn't fueling any competition for her anymore.

If the man let himself go into easiness/trying to avoid any conflict by giving in, he'll turn into that washed up beta who get controlled by his wife, and his desire for carelessness will eventually be the doomfall of his marriage.

If he stand his goddamn ground like a man, though, that's a different story.

To any guy reading this that wasn't aware that it's how it works: If you're not ready to stand your ground in life, getting a wife/gf ain't for you.

>>2166

It's a matter of power dynamics and evolution.

Women want men who will produce good sons (this is called the sexy son hypothesis in evolution). A man who has multiple women has good genes and will likely father strong children, who in turn will have many children.

A guy who is a cuckold has cuckold genes, and will likely father weak, stupid children who allow themselves to be cuckolded and the line dies out.

Women don't have this same dynamic. A woman in a polygynous relationship can have as many children as any other women (and better children, if she secures a better man) a man in a polyandrous relationship (I.e. 2+ men) will be much less likely to father children, and so he loses out.

There's a reason why polygyny is widespread in human cultures throughout history, and in animal species, while polyandry is not.

>>2189

But to put it in more everyday simple terms, women can't help but grow to despise a cuckold for being weak. Wheras most men LOVE their cuckqueans because they make us stronger.

>>2190

That makes sense, a man is seen as less desirable (less of a man I guess) if the women he is with want to find other men, but a woman is seen as no less of a desirable female if her man sleeps around.

cuckquean is more viable I guess as it validates both parties, the woman gets the validation that her man is desired by other women and the man gets the satisfaction of being desired.

Coming from a girl who has been in a relationship for 4 years (strictly monogamous, cuckqueaning for me is just a fetish that fuels my interest in humiliation, so for me I treat it as the ultimate humiliation) I honestly think the idea that a woman will get bored with a faithful man who doesn't give other women attention is COMPLETE BS.

Although I suppose subconsciously knowing that my man is desirable to other women (which he is–we are both considered to be attractive) makes me want him more/compete for him, I don't think that him expressing interest in other women makes me more attracted to him AT ALL. If anything, if I am under the impression he's doing something like checking out another girl or flirting or whatever, it would make me really upset and lower my attraction for him. I find being unfaithful to be a real turnoff and I know a lot of other women who do. Sure, there are those women who will want to have sex with you more if you are seemingly giving other girls attention, but that's coming from a sense of INSECURITY and anxiety rather than actually loving you more or anything healthy for the relationship. I don't think playing with a woman's insecurities will keep the "thrill" in a relationship, if that's the only way you can secure a functional relationship then that's seriously not the person you should be with.

>>2211

>Sure, there are those women who will want to have sex with you more if you are seemingly giving other girls attention, but that's coming from a sense of INSECURITY and anxiety rather than actually loving you more or anything healthy for the relationship.

All good points, but the posts I think you might be replying to (hard to tell which ones) are actually talking about reciprocal attention being paid to a man by other women, i.e.:

>subconsciously knowing that my man is desirable to other women (which he is–we are both considered to be attractive) makes me want him more/compete for him

My own cuckquean likes it when I check out other girls; she finds it pleasurably naughty because we're sharing a secret. She's not insecure about it. Insecurity or anxiety doesn't enter into the cuckquean experience for her at all, actually.

>>2211

>I find being unfaithful to be a real turnoff and I know a lot of other women who do.

The only reason why unfaithfulness strikes you and those other women as unattractive is because unfaithfulness typically corresponds with weakness, that is, you associate it with men who have poor impulse control (e.g. Fratbro). What if a man were in control of his unfaithfulness and didn't react like a rabid, salivating dog at presented sexual opportunities?

>but that's coming from a sense of insecurity and anxiety rather than actually loving you more or anything healthy for the relationship

What if it's both anxiety and lust? Sex doesn't occur when there's peace. It always arises out of conflict. I think you're neglecting something here.

>I don't think playing with a woman's insecurities will keep the "thrill" in a relationship

Yes, yes it will.

>if that's the only way you can secure a functional relationship then that's seriously not the person you should be with

It's not a person anyone should be with if the thrill is the only thing that's keeping things going, agreed. Deeming the thrill to be an unnecessary component on those grounds however is a fatal mistake that many men make. Now all they can do is wallow in r/deadbedrooms, wondering how things got this way despite doing everything "right." Man's existence is a tug of war between his primal drives and his higher knowledge. It's foolish to neglect either.

Your friend's relationship was shitty, and wasn't really an example.

Cuckqueaning and cuckolding both require a solid basis in order for the relationship to be viable: Trust. A betrayal of trust will torpedo the relationship, no matter if its someone's fetish or not.

I recently broke up with a guy because he was cheating on me, because his form of cheating involved a betrayal of my trust.

>>2329

>>2329

> A betrayal of trust will torpedo the relationship, no matter if its someone's fetish or not.

>I recently broke up with a guy because he was cheating on me, because his form of cheating involved a betrayal of my trust.

Exactly. Cuckqueaning's by arrangement. Cheating isn't. It's the ironclad trust that separates cuckqueaning from run-of-the-mill cheating, for me.

>>2188

>woman is literally the dragon in every man's life that he must dominate and tame lest it dominate him

>she will never stop trying to bring him down lest she is put into her place

The misogynists were right. I'm going to go gay because fuck that shit if women can't help but act like megalomaniacal bitches. I want someone to face challenges with not a henchman waiting for my first sign of weakness to usurp me.

>>2449

>women can't help but act like megalomaniacal bitches

>I want someone to face challenges with not a henchman waiting for my first sign of weakness to usurp me.

Except having a loyal team-mate is exactly what you get when you find and properly handle a non-psychotic woman. Except here's the thing - even in a team, someone's still ultimately in charge. Think of it as a Captain/First Officer kind of relationship. The first officer is often just as competent as the captain and a wise captain will consult their first officer when making major decisions but when it comes down to it, it's the captain whose will the first officer carries out. If the captain becomes derilict in duty or incompetent, the first officer will be obliged to take command for the good of the vessel.

Many women do not want to be in charge in their relationships. That doesn't mean they can't be in charge or avoid stepping up - it means they want a partner who's competent and willing to be in charge. So if you show yourself unable to be a good leader, she isn't going to follow. She's going to hate that, because now she's in the uncomfortable position of thinking about her man in the same way as, say, one of her children. How to be a good leader can be learned from the plethora of material on the subject.

A woman who wants a man to act as a capable leader of the family unit isn't sharpening her knives in the dark and waiting for the guy to slip up so she can bring him down as she's always wanted. That's a paranoid fantasy (unless you've only managed to attract the rare psychos who do act like this to replay childhood trauma; why are you sticking your dick in crazy). She wants her man to do well and succeed, so the man is well-advised to treat that gift with respect and use it as the foundation for a strong relationship.

>>2175

I would forgive my bf if he cheated on me out of the blue boys will be boys and there will always be pretty sluts, I would not forgive him if he premeditated to do so.

>>2458

I wouldn't.

I might give some leniency for a crime of opportunity kind of situation, but you don't get a free pass on disloyalty, fetishes or no.

I can keep my insatiable cocklust at bay. You can keep your dick in your pants.

>>2166

In my own pretty limited experience hearing about cuckold relationships, it's usually the guy pressuring the girl to sleep with other men at first. The girl is usually pretty resistant at first and finds the whole idea pretty icky. But once that initial wall is down, she discovers that she likes the deal. After that, the failed ones (most of them from what I hear) tend to fracture as the girl begins to hold the guy in contempt. The guy loves this, of course, because it plays into the reason he wanted her to sleep around in the first place. But after a while in the failed ones, the girl can't be bothered holding onto the cuckold any more and abandons him.

Could be there's a confirmation bias around because one very rarely hears the details of successful relationships of any kind while the failures generate much more chatter.

From what I can hear about cuckqueaning relationships other than my own, it starts kind of the same way but in reverse - with the girl dropping hints to the guy. But that's where it diverges. Instead of holding his 'quean in contempt, the guy becomes much more protective of her. The main reason for failure of cuckqueaning relationships I've seen seems to be the guy breaking ground rules or putting his 'quean at risk rather than him holding her in gradually deepening contempt.

But there's really not enough grist in the mill to make any conclusions.

>>2569

>you don't get a free pass on disloyalty, fetishes or no.

>I can keep my insatiable cocklust at bay. You can keep your dick in your pants.

Fucking this. Just because I like my man to put his cock in girls who aren't me doesn't mean I want him disloyal. In fact that's weirdly why cucking turns me on so much. He's so loyal and has so much integrity that it's both incredibly naughty and completely safe.

But then I've got a huge fetish for being claimed and owned so the idea of being with other men actually disgusts me.

>>2166

Instincts informed by biological imperatives

A larger percentage of the male population died in warfare for the vast majority of our evolutionary history compared to today, so there was a surplus of women.

mf+ polygamy increases overall fertility and allows the fittest males to have as many offspring as possible. Women and babies died in birth fairly often a mere hundred years ago, precious high quality DNA would go to waste if a 10/10 man's only wife and child died bc she had narrow hips. Good for the individual and species.

fm+ has no effect on fertility. Bad for the male, no effect on species.

Instincts exist for a reason. Cultures that dominated the past, and which liberals and even many conservatives dismiss as backwards and barbaric, dominated because they reinforced our nature rather than opposing it. Especially in regards to fecundity, western culture opposes our nature, and that which opposes Tao shall soon cease to be.

t. moderate /pol/ lurker looking for porn of my degenerate fetish wife squirts into vixen's pussy, filling her womb with pussy juice Haven't found it so far ;-;

>>2166

>>That happened 5 times in 2 months

You're friends with Eron Gjoni?

as a male, i must say cheating is still a bad move from the guy's part. i do like to imagine cuckqueaning scenario where the girl loves the whole scene, or at least learn to love it in the end

(I never use myself in my own imagination and i never use anybody i know in real life either.)

Your partner must always be number one for you both physical and mental… others should only be living onahole/living dildo (if you are in an open relationship and the girl/you fuck another guy). cheating means put investment of affection towards another person which is bad.

Polygamy relationship ussually have the women in relationship knows about another woman and they approve so i dont think thats cheating

and i hope none of the guys here are in relationship with this kind of women described on this link "http://www.huffingtonpost.com/monique-honaman/i-just-wish-he-would-have_b_1297919.html?ref=divorce"

>>2632

Oh, are the maleanons posting dickpics now? Can anyone join?

sage for shitposting

>>2632

You ladies are lucky the males here aren't your average /b/tards and don't want to post their dicks.

>>2632

Pft, we know there aren't really any men on here.

>>2677

>Although, I do think there should be a "primary" partner to avoid conflicts.

This has always seemed to me to be a very sensible idea. Even in cultures where polygyny is built into marriage, there's still the concept of the 'major' or 'senior' wife who acts as head of the domestic household and is responsible for resolving conflicts. Depending on the system, she might also be the "official" wife (e.g. in the old Thai system minor wives receive less of a stake in the household and don't carry the external political weight the major wife does).

Cuckqueaning is way more natural. If a man has a cheating wife, he doesn't know if the kid is his and no one will respect him. For woman that is not a problem as long as husband provides and protects.

Genetically, we come from a long line of one man taking multiple wives. This arrangement has been bred into us. It's only natural that it works today.

>>2686

>>2694

A good point, but it's not that clearly cut. Don't forget that two of our main survival advantages are the ability to switch between cooperative and competitive reproductive strategies and our ability to act as memetic hosts.

Natural selection acts across populations rather than individuals so in social animals, a behaviour which may slightly disadvantage an individual but greatly advantage the population will still be selected for. Same with any memes hosted by the population - an advantageous meme may remove selection pressure from or even co-select disadvantageous genes.

Evolution randomly walks the solution space looking for local maxima. What is natural is not automatically good and what is effective for a given environment is not always obvious.

In my case I love cuckquean but strongly dislike poly. One could boil my fetish down as wanting my man's genes to spread while still being able to have my own children monopolise his resources. Not clear cut.

not sure if real… but there is this kind of people too….

[women.asiaone.com/women/relationship/my-husband-doesnt-know-i-share-him-my-twin-sister#xtor=CS1-2]

>>2686

>>2694

Not really. The problem with naturalistic assumptions is that we don't actually know this shit and we just project what we want onto it.

It's entirely possible that monogamous relationships weren't a thing for most of our examples. Women could have used a mare strategy of "fuck everyone, so know one knows whos kid it is and doesn't murder it."

After all, women have just as many reasons to fuck as many dicks and men have to fuck as many cunts.

>>2699

Oh yeah, I saw a doc about this type of tiny monkey the other day where the female tricks the males into all paying monkey-alimony for the child

>>2166

Because in nature polygyny is the rule, monogamy the exception and polyandry an extreme rarity. Vast majority of mammals are polygynous and so are all our closest simian relatives.

Now you might guess which of the two is more natural therefore more likely to work.

>>2719

different anons, gurl

>>2632

That caption was surprisingly hot for some reason.

Also, if there are no boys on /cuckquean/, and regular anons are called fags, does that mean that /cuckquean/ users are called dykes?

>>2763

/cuckquean/ users are called anons.

>>2764

So then, males are called mascanons?

>>2766

Males that want something special to call themselves are called COCK OR GTFO.

>>2768

so this is bizarro tumblr?

>>2779

This is what happens when /fem/ discovers ntr and tries to rationaize it.

>>2779

It's an imageboard. Shouting down any attempts to irrelevantly mention identity in lieu of having something interesting to say is what happens. It's just that it's being done on a board about a female-held fetish, so the phrasing's novel. All is well.

Bizarro Tumblr would be males talking endlessly about how they're men and thus have a unique perspective that must be heard, which is the opposite of what's happening here.

>>2677

>Basically, you do NOT want your relationship to be Megatron and Starscream. You want to be Picard and Riker.

QFT.

>>2781

you mean autistically stick to an old meme when the base point is made moot and justifying it with some bizarre role reversal based on lolharem logic?

not to mention the rising counts of muh feels and general wanking going around

ok, /fem/ doing an /r9k/ for the halloween school play then.

unique enough for you?

>>2791

>>2781

forgot obligatory

>try harder faggot

>>2166

>Shits good thinking of proposing

Why don't you, OP?

>>2781

>>2791

You two are taking this entirely too seriously.

>>2718

>Because in nature polygyny is the rule, monogamy the exception and polyandry an extreme rarity

Not really. Plenty of animals mate for life. And a general glance at human history would imply that mating for life is the natural human behavior, with polygyny as the aberrant behavior.

You can't just go "but nature" without looking at the fact that what's true for one species is not true for another. I mean, keep in mind, sexual cannibalism is actually super normal in nature. Do YOU want me to kill and eat you after you cum inside me?

>>2812

Only if I can first bypass your vestigial pussy by spearing my weaponised cock straight through your back and through your uterus wall so I can cum in your womb directly.