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 No.225972

So I was doing research for a paper and I may have discovered the sweetest gay love story hardly ever told. So once upon a time there was an emperor named Hadrian. Hadrian had a loveless marriage with his wife, he had mistresses and had sex with younger men but never anything serious. Then he met… ==ANTINOUS==

You can listen to how he felt about him in these videos. Antinous became the object of all of his affections, he loved Antinous so much that Hadrian publicly married Antinous in a ceremony that cost an untold fortune, with doves and sacrifices and thousands in attendance. He so loved Antinous that he even named new constellations for him. However, one day while Hadrian was in Syria, he was informed that Antonius had drowned in the Nile river. Hadrian was so destroyed by this news that this man who had killed men with his bare hands and ruled the largest empire in the world broke down and began weeping "like a woman".

His devotion to Antinous was so strong that he even developed a cult for him in Egypt, that far outlived his own cult by hundreds of years. He even built and named a new city after him in Egypt. Hadrian was never known to have taken another lover after Antinous.

and holy fuck was Hadrian right if any of these statues are anything to go by he would put any /cuteboy/ here to shame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU8VGQVhTn0

 No.225976

File: 1448737709065-0.jpg (3.21 MB, 2100x3190, 210:319, antinous276.jpg)

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Just look at that fucking hair.

You will never have hair that looks this good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEhSrIO9zcI


 No.226013

>>225972

What was your paper about?


 No.226014

>>226013

Hadrian's wall.


 No.226023

This was the absolute best time in history to be a homosexual.


 No.226026

>>226023

Not really. Some people think that Antinous actually drowned himself in the Nile so that Hadrian wouldn't have to worry about being ridiculed by the high born men of Rome for having such an intense relationship with a male lover. Hadrian was mocked constantly behind the scenes and people began to doubt his authority because of this relationship. But that isn't coming from an expert. I might be wrong on a few points, the mainstream position is he just drowned by mistake.


 No.226051

>>226026

Ohh… Okay :(

At least there were lots of cuties around


 No.226053

>>226051

Well see it was like this, manliness was not linked to straightness. It was perfectly normal to have bisexual expressions and to fuck younger effeminate men, people did it all the time. The thing was that being the one getting fucked was very shameful and you really had to own the fact that you were a subby bitch or your life would be pretty shameful, your dad would not be happy with you if you got your butt fucked and were famous for it.

However, the fact that he had this lover was not the unusual part. Like I said lots of Romans had male lovers its just that Hadrian LOVED Antinous so much and even got married to him, which NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER happened.

Though being gay back then was much less of a big deal it was still a deal. You know?


 No.226063

I wish the Roman Republic had survived, we would probably be in utopia right now.


 No.226104

>>226063

lol no for the most part we have alot of good things going for us right now.

Also ROME is a 10/10 series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLjgrFciJhE


 No.226110

>>226104

Say what you want about the world we have today but fuck not living with electricity.


 No.226168

>>226026

He may have been assassinated, but according to a historian who spent a lot of time researching Antinous, he didn't really have Hadrian's ear in political matters, which was usually what got lovers/confidants of emperors suicided, not so much the fact that they were lovers.

Cassius Dio (semi-reliable Roman historian about 80 years afterward) thinks Antinous may have voluntarily sacrificed himself not because of the opinions of people at court, but because Hadrian had been sick and Antinous wanted insurance that he would get well again. If it was intentional sacrifice, it probably would have been without Hadrian's approval, because Hadrian himself generally disapproved of human sacrifice.


 No.226178

>>226168

Bonus post for the otter and bear lovers out there, another considerably less famous emperor named Galba was, according to Suetonius "more inclined to unnatural desire, and in gratifying it preferred full-grown, strong men."


 No.226271

>>226104

>lol no for the most part we have alot of good things going for us right now.

Disagree that the world now is great, it is better than then, but how far could we have got without the wasted years of the dark ages?


 No.226285

The husband of the emperor…drowned accidentally.

Sure he fucking did. Dude was murdered, the why will never be known but you'd have to be an idiot to believe someone as important as Antinous wouldn't have had bodyguards waiting to rescue him from the water. I personally think it was a plot to destabilise Hadrians reign in the hopes he'd kill himself after hearing the news or at the very least be so overcome with grief he'd be deemed incapable of ruling.

Whoever ended such a beautiful love deserves an eternity of suffering.


 No.226349

>>226053

>Though being gay back then was much less of a big deal it was still a deal. You know?

So basically like today in the civillised parts of the western and far eastern world?

You dont call the priest to expell the demons from your gay son, let the sharia court throw him from a roof or honourkill him by your own means, but you are mighty pissed about him not being an archetype of a "normal" man, the thought of an other man dominating YOUR offspring and the fact that you wont have grandkiddies.


 No.226353

Oh. I also should add another case of ancient man-love to this thread, maybe we can get a gay history thread going:

Agathon was a greek poet who lived somewhere around 400 bc in Athen and while he earned some prices for his works, they all have been lost.

"The most detailed surviving description of Agathon is in the Thesmophoriazousae, in which Agathon appears as a pale, clean-shaven young man dressed in women's clothes."

While also was an innovator concerning the athenian theather and known as a good mannered host he was mocked for his flamboyant faboulousness and the way his effeminate clothing also mimmicked past poets of great signifance.

His lover was Pausanias of Athen, a man who is only famous for showing up as a sidefigure in Platon's Symposium.


 No.226495

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>tfw you will never brag about your emperor bf ruler of fucking everything

rnd skinny girl: -oh what does your bf do, mine is a lawyer <3

me: -mine is the emperor or Rome

rnd skinny girl: -wish my bf was half the man yours is ;_;


 No.226523

File: 1448875416416.jpg (15.92 KB, 236x305, 236:305, 1448256949692.jpg)

>tfw no cuteboy bf to abuse Imperial powers for


 No.226634

>>226053

This. Male-male sex was about dominance.


 No.226645

>>226271

>the dark ages set human progress back

I hate this uninformed ahistorical meme


 No.226651

>>226645

No one's saying all human discovery ceased during the dark ages, just that it could have been so much more.


 No.226963

>>226349

Exactly.


 No.226965

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>>226285

Stranger things have happened. During the first crusade there was some German king who's name I cannot remember was bringing 100,000 men from Germany to fight in the holy land. This was by far the biggest army in the group and the king just drowned in an ankle deep stream about half way there and all 100,000 men just turned around and went back to Germany.


 No.226967

>>226965

>the king just drowned in an ankle deep stream about half way there and all 100,000 men just turned around and went back to Germany

That sounds even more suspicious dude. I have a feeling those 100,000 men didn't wanna fight in the crusades and the king had an "accident".


 No.226975

>>226967

Nah he was just a fucking retard. He was in full armor and alone.

>Crossing a stream

>in 90+lbs of clunky metal armor that make it hard to move

>nigger wtf are you doing


 No.226977

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 No.227090

>>226645

europe was in the shitter until king Charlemagne, even then, literacy and knowledge was locked up in isolation inside monasteries until vikings started fucking up everyones shit and reopened trade in the north, and the church in the west took centuries to regain substantial power up to the crusades, which right after all of western Europe almost got its shit kicked in had the mongols continued pass hungary and there might not have been a rennaisance


 No.227125

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Lets not forget about this sexy bi-sexual mother fucker.

Alexander the mother fucking great.


 No.227126

>>227125

WARNING: DID NOT ACTUALLY FUCK HIS MOTHER


 No.227552

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>>225976

What a qt!


 No.227580

>>226645

ok /christian/

there was negligible scientific progress in europe for near enough 1000 years, I didn't say it was only because of christianity or anything, in fact I didn't say that at all


 No.232963

Bringing this thread back because I love it.


 No.233046

>>226023

>implying we wouldn't all be slaves


 No.233053

File: 1450785962776.jpg (58.88 KB, 531x471, 177:157, 1425284982375.jpg)

>a story with sacrifices, suicide & scarring heartbreak in it

>sweetest gay love story

this board is so weird


 No.233068

>>227580

Up until the 11th century Europe was getting rekt by barbarians.

The capture of the great Muslim centre of learning in Toledo in 1085 led many scholars to Spain in search of lost books and the Norman conquest of Sicily in 1091 opened up libraries of Arabic, Hebrew and Greek literary treasures. And by the Twelfth Century scholars flocked to Sicily, southern Italy and Spain to translate these books into Latin and bring them home.

Using these works, Bacon developed the scientific method. With the development of the method in the Thirteenth Century, thanks to the likes of Grosseteste and Bacon, Fourteenth Century scholars hit on the idea of making the method more precise by using mathematics as the language of physics.

After that scientific discovery and progress becomes much more commonplace.

Now, the stagnation of philosophy and science started around 300 AD. There were major social and political upheavals that interrupted many aspects of Roman life, including scholarship.

'Military Anarchy' followed, and decade after decade there were civil wars and politically oppressed.

Will continue after work.


 No.233069

>>227125

>you will never get fucked by him

I'm not sure if anybody in history was able to conquer more land than this man. His throbbing boner for men and women alike must have kept his will going.


 No.233077

File: 1450797963476.jpg (17.2 KB, 241x400, 241:400, elagabalus.jpg)

Speaking of Roman homosexuality, there also was that degenerate Elogabalus. Who among other things was a Syrian priest of a Sun-god and decreed that that god should be worshipped by all Romans, married a Vestal Virgin to create "godlike children" but probably never touched her, got married to a charioteer, had the hairs plucked from his body in order to appear more female and appeared in public wearing make-up and women's clothing.

"Finally, he set aside a room in the palace and there committed his indecencies, always standing nude at the door of the room, as the harlots do, and shaking the curtain which hung from gold rings, while in a soft and melting voice he solicited the passers-by. There were, of course, men who had been specially instructed to play their part. For, as in other matters, so in this business, too, he had numerous agents who sought out those who could best please him by their foulness. He would collect money from his patrons and give himself airs over his gains; he would also dispute with his associates in this shameful occupation, claiming that he had more lovers than they and took in more money."

Herodian commented that Elagabalus enhanced his natural good looks by the regular application of cosmetics. He was described as having been "delighted to be called the mistress, the wife, the queen of Hierocles".

He reigned four years, and died at 18.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elagabalus


 No.233079

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>>233069

>"I'm not sure if anybody in history was able to conquer more land than this man"

>forgetting motherfucking Genghis Khan

I doubt he was qt, though. But apparently something like 0,5% of the world's population is descended from him.


 No.233082

>>233077

Wasn't he assassinated because he wanted his balls cut off so he could be more like a woman?


 No.233121

>>233082

He was more assassinated because he pissed off the Praetorian Guard, which was something you didn't want to do as an Emperor unless you wanted to be suicided. Alexander Severus, his cousin, became much more popular with the guard, and Ela tried to prevent him from gaining power, spread rumors that he was near death, etc.

Some of it was his eccentric behavior, no doubt, but it's likely that his degeneracy was exaggerated by Cassius Dio, who generally trashed the reputation of any Emperor that tried to put down the Senate. Herodian, another contemporary historian, confirms some but not all of what Dio says.




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