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 No.228301

How many of you are pretending to be straight to your family and friends?

 No.228303

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>Constantly bitch about gays with family

>watching christmas movies with them on ABC, change the channel when commercials for gay sitcoms etc show up expressing disgust

>declare that gays should be gassed

>I have never been attracted towards women and want to spend my life with a cute and girly boy


 No.228304

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>>228303

I should also mention that my family is very Christian and if they knew that not only I don't believe that at all but that I'm also this much of a faggot… I have no fucking idea what they'd do. I'm scared.


 No.228305

I could maybe date a girl again if they're the one initiating contact.

I want to date a dude but I live in a small fucking town and I live with my parents and don't wanna come out.


 No.228310

I'm bi, so even though I'm way more attracted towards men I can still pass off as straight.

>>228304

That sucks dude. My family is Christian as well, but they would accept me even if they happened to know I like cock. I just don't want to tell them because there is a stigma about """coming out"""" that just seems really awkward, like it's unneeded.


 No.228313

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>>228310

I'll never tell them about my lack of faith or my lack of interest in girls. It's best they don't know and go on believing what they always have.


 No.228318

>>228313

I'm sorry, anon. I know it doesn't help, but the reason they would be """"upset"""" at you is because they genuinely believe that they are looking out for you.

The religion thing tends to be a non issue which you can keep to yourself comfortably. What's the worst they can do? Make you go to church or pray before dinner, or something?

The lack of interests in girls is more complicated. Just tell them when you feel comfortable, if you ever do.


 No.228319

My grandparents don't know, and they're the only ones unless someone else in the family's outed me behind my back. And there's really no point to them knowing unless I find a nice husbando to settle down with.

>>228303

You the only one that expresses this much disgust, Anon? If so, they might know. Reaction formation and all that.

You got a school counselor or anyone that you can talk to? Local PFLAG chapter?

>>228310

100% faggot here, and before I came out, no one had any inkling I liked dick. Not even my roommate, who was one of my best friends and lived with me for 4 years.

>I just don't want to tell them because there is a stigma about """coming out"""" that just seems really awkward, like it's unneeded.

I feel you. Coming out kinda carries a bit of adversarial "I'm gay, deal with it" baggage with it, and I think a lot of parents don't really hate gays, per sec, they hate the stereotyped lifestyle, and that's where their heads immediately go when you have The Talk.


 No.228320

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>>228318

Kick me out, maybe attack me? I remember after fake-bitching about gays to them a while back my mom said "That's great, if your son when you have one turns out that way, kick his ass for me."

fuck.


 No.228321

>>228319

No, they were too. I was contributing to the complaint with recent events and sayinf "man, how disgusting," etc. I wasn't alone.


 No.228322

>>228320

Oh man. When I said the "what's the worst that could happen" I meant for the not being religious part. Still, I didn't expect it to be that bad for being gay. Do you have anybody else in your life that you could talk to about this? If you do, then I would open up to them, if you know they'd be accepting. It really helps to have somebody you know personally and are close to to confide to

>>228319

>"I feel you. Coming out kinda carries a bit of adversarial "I'm gay, deal with it" baggage with it, and I think a lot of parents don't really hate gays, per sec, they hate the stereotyped lifestyle, and that's where their heads immediately go when you have The Talk."

This. I don't even really blame them. It doesn't help that there are parades where faggots only go dressed in underwear and glitter and talk with an unneeded obnoxious lisp/ attitude in general are so common.

How did """""""the talk"""""""""" go for you, anon?


 No.228323

>>228320

If you legit think they'd hurt you or kick you out, don't say anything. But I definitely stand by my previous advice. School counselor or PFLAG chapter. I can understand skipping a school GSA if you have one; normally a lot of drama and pridefags in those.

If nothing else, don't hate yourself.

>>228322

Better than my worst-case scenario, worse than my best-case.

Long time ago now; it was when I was 20, and I made it a NY resolution. Wrote my parents a letter, left it on the table, went to work the next day, and they had opened it and read it by the time I got back.

They were upset for a while, because they immediately thought EVERYTHING about me was a facade, and unsurprisingly jumped right to "pridefag in the making." Not overtly hostile, but disappointed and upset.

Nowadays, I'd call them accepting if not super-supportive. Mom got over the initial shock and took a "whatever makes you happy" tack in a week or less. My old man took it harder, but he takes everything hard, and I think he's finally come to terms with it.

While I'm not totally supportive of the coming out thing, there's another hand to the argument, namely that gays would probably look a lot better if the more straight-acting ones a more active role, put their foot down and said "No, we're not all like this."

We need more Nate Silvers in the world and fewer Perez Hiltons.


 No.228326

Only my mother, father, and older sister know as of now, sucks but I have to live with it for a while

>friends

hue


 No.228329

>Be me

>Decide to come out in August

>Family is more or less understanding

>Tell them I will find a way to have a biological kid

>Tell them I'm not the degenerate faggot kind

>Tell them the reason I was so homophobic is because I was afraid of myself

I think the biological kid and "I'm not AIDS riddled Folsom Street faggot" helped them a lot. And I don't feel all that better tbh.


 No.228334

>Never had a gf/bf

>Parents stopped teasing me about being gay years ago

My father is a homophobe, fear of the unknown and all that but he's a twat anyway so I don't care. My mother would probably accept it. I'm 22, right now I secretly meet with a 48 year old. Being gay is one thing, but dating a man old enough to be my father is another. I don't think they could take it.

Besides, I never tell them anything. They never cared to ask about my life so why bother telling them, they don't deserve to know about my life.


 No.228335

i wouldnt really say pretending i just dont talk with friends or family about relationships and shit. If they ask me i'd tell them the truth because i really dont think it's that important. My family is pretty religious and i am to some extent but im 20 and have been planning to move next year since i fucking hate this state


 No.228348

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it's a pretty shitty feeling, specially when people around you start talking shit about gays


 No.228351

>>228334

> I don't think they could take it.

Are you their only son?

If yes it seems like one of the worst nightmares come true for a father. This is the reason westeners should make more then one kid for good measure, the risk of something happening like this seems to be quiet high in these days.


 No.228353

>>228351

No, I have 5 brothers who are all straight.

My parents are just really small minded people who'd never understand what I see in my bf.


 No.228356

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>>228301

Ive pretended to be straight ever since ive noticed guys

I pretend to be straight and avoid allusions to being a fag around everyone

I dont make vehement claims against homosexuality (obvious closet case) or make pro-gay statements, I pretend to be aloof about the subject despite craving cock

my family probably already knows, or thats just my paranoia taking over

but they always refer to me as straight

I can never keep the illusion around guys I like,I always end up saying something pro-gay for whatever reason or acting in some nervous blushing manner around them


 No.228360

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Out to friends, sister and a cousin, haven't told my parents. They most likely won't have a problem with it but I wanna move out before I tell them


 No.228370

>>228301

My family is very accepting of homosexuality and it's unlikely that they would care if they found out about my attractions, but I keep it to myself anyway because nobody wants to hear about what turns me on. That isn't an appropriate topic to discuss with family.

As for friends, I don't make any effort to keep it to myself, but it's never arisen in a conversation so I've had no reason to bring it up. There are a few people who know about my sexual attractions but I don't talk to them very often anymore.


 No.228371

>>228370

I should add that I'm about 90% certain that my family knows about my complete indifference for women, but it's possible that they just believe me to be some asexual robot.

Also despite not talking about it with other people they seem to have an idea of my homosexual attractions somehow, but I don't know how they could possibly know that…


 No.228372

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I am. I'm biscum though so it's not too big a deal. I don't know what I would do if I didn't like women. I feel for you guys.


 No.228374

>>228320

Are you capable of overpowering them? If not, I would recommend acquiring some sort of self-defense weapon before letting them know, if that's something you ever do.


 No.228411

>>228348

>specially when people around you start talking shit about gays

Fuck I feel this too. I'm out to my friends and family but when I'm around guys I don't know and they start gay bashing, I'm so scared to say anything.


 No.228428

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>>228411

>Get a ride from my uncle

>Radio is talking about gay marriage

>"Country is full of nothing but fucking faggots now, they should all be shot. Bunch of fucking queers."

>mfw


 No.228429

I've been dating my boyfriend I have right now since the middle of high school. I'm over halfway though college now. My mom knows the he and I are friends and she also knows that we have fucked but she doesn't think we are still dating. My dad and the rest of my family have no idea though. But I am bi-scum so if it doesn't work out in the long run I can always get a girl friend. I haven't been with a woman in so long that if we did ever break up I would just stick with women after that. Its much less complicated.


 No.228449

>>228428

Makes me glad that my uncle is an intelligent man with a PhD. Not everybody can be so lucky, I guess.


 No.228479

I was devastated this summer. I decided to give myself one chance before offing myself, telling my mother everything and react according to her reaction. I told her about the religion, she said "I kinda guessed, probably your cousin too". After the religion talk, I told her "I like boys too". She was kinda surprised and couldn't find anything to say at first. Then said it was just a phase and things like that. She told me everyone has that to some extent. She was even going to talk about similar stuff my father went through but I made her stop, I didn't want to know anything about my parents sexuality. For all I know, everyone is bisexual to some extent, stuff like being jealous of hot bodies, not only wanting to fugg and she probably thinks I have just a little of the gay. But she knows. She also said she felt terrible about what they said about gays before.

She was very understanding. She even secretly defended me and my cousin when people were talking about how "atheist nationalists are hurting this country and should be expelled because they're not real nationalists in a family reunion. She said something like "Most of them aren't like that. I know some personally, they're mostly indistinguishable from others, they "could even be amongst us". They're also much better and respectable than religious nutjobs who use religion to hurt others" And she's religious too.

Telling my father would be cathastropic. When people were making their FB photos rainbow, they didn't know the history of it. I told them about legalization of homosexual marriage and said "it's bullshit, even my homo friends don't do that". That was actually meant to slightly improve their views of homosexuality by how I choose intelligent people around me, those that don't get dragged with mainstream stuff, regardless of their sexual preferences, because it literally doesn't matter. But his reaction was "your homosexual friends? Well congratulations! Why the hell do you have people like them around you?" and started yelling at me. Said how gays are terrible people, degenerates and how they all needed to die etc. This went on about one hour, I managed to keep a straight face but I was crying from the inside. My mother tried to stop him but failed. And this was before the "coming out". A couple days after this, she saw a video of a gay pride, naked girls dancing for "celebration" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk4o5HlSJeY . She was absolutely disgusted. I tried really hard to convince her not all LGBT are like that. I had to use statistics like around 10% people are LGBT and had to give examples of "normal" gays from famous people. After a few hours, she was barely convinced. But telling her I was one too changed her mind about gays very fast :^)

Fucking thank you, pride cunts. You do nothing but hurting us.

>>228320

Dude, how old are you? It's time for you to move out and find a qt husbando to h-hold hands


 No.228481

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I hang out with a bunch of car guys and they all hate gays.

Life is suffering.


 No.228492

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>>228479

"atheist nationalists are hurting this country and should be expelled because they're not real nationalists"

Now this seriously triggers me.

You guys seem to owe so much to Kemal,with his kind being one of the greatest rolemodels for nationalism I could think of besides Bismark and that Kamehameha guy the chances of one of those being born again on your (or our ;__;) clay seems to be quiete low.

Head up, at least your mother tolerates it, you have homofriends so youre not totally isolated and you guys dont have a mutawwa yet.

I guess digging up ottoman poetry about how its totally not gay to fuck a man without a beard -because then he's obviously not a real man:^) wont convince your father though.


 No.228494

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>>228492

They support him a lot. But they're just making excuses and ignoring the obvious proofs because such based guy can't be an atheist.

>mutawwa

This is the first time I'm hearing that word. Holy shit no. Over my dead body. But army wouldn't let it happen anyway.

No, it won't. I don't think anything can be done to my father. Also I'm 21, long haired, underweight, and I still can't grow a beard, it would only do harm


 No.228517

Yes and No.

No one of my fam knows of my liking of cuteboys or the fact that i have a cuteboy which i adore. 1 friend does know of my bi-scumness.


 No.228520

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>It's been few years since I dated a girl that I didn't even like.

>mom asks me when ill date again

>when I go out she asks if I'm going on a date

>asks me why I don't have a girl

I just say I'm too busy right now for that. I die a little inside and try and avoid the topic. I'm a awful liar so if I'm ever asked if I even like girls I don't know if I can keep my cover.

It's painful.

With friends I sometimes play off the "lol saying gay things for a joke haha!" thing but insdie I mean it and it's my way of getting my feelings off my chest without coming out.


 No.228536

I'm out to one of my friends, a classmate, and my ex, everyone else I'm masculine and straight.

I'd like to think my parents would accept me either way, but I know they'd still think it's weird because they don't know any gay people in their lives. I'm bi, and if I were to come out I'd make that clear, but yes, I'd come out if I were in a relationship with another guy.


 No.228548

>>228310

Yeah, it's a hassle. I'd rather be ostracized then to be supported.


 No.228572

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I don't even know why I'm gay. I fucking hate it. I hate everything about it. I hate the people promoting it's "normal" or "natural", I hate the feeling of looking at another man and liking it, I hate gay people, I hate porn and the chans for showing me this hidden part of me, but most of all, I hate myself. But I can't help it.

The worst is my grandmother, she's outlived both her husband and one of her kids, and I know it'd be heart breaking to her if I came out. and all she does when she sees me is ask when I'm gonna get a girlfriend. I'm her only grandson, 15 grand kids and only one with a dick. So it'd that much more heart breaking.

And of course I act homophobic, and for the most part I am, 95% of the gay community are degenerate scum that should be crucified.

=JFMSU Fam. Just, fuck my shit up.=


 No.228582

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>>228411

it's worse when it's your own family and not just random people

or even guys who think are cute but turns out they hate fags

when that happens i usually laugh while i'm dying on the inside


 No.228585

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>at least you're not a fag you have long hair

>haha yeah uncle

Fucking kill me


 No.228592

AFAIK my family does not know that I'm attracted to dudes. Exception is my little brother, but he can keep a secret and I basically raised him while my parents where out working (and my older brother did some other things, so I was alone at home with him). Funny enough, my little brother turned out quite attractive to girls and has had more girlfriends as the tender age of 14 than I had in my whole life >.<

My best friends do know I am attracted to men, and sincerly they do not give a fuck. To them, I just am who I am - also when on parties, they are the ones who do stuff like cuddling even though they all have a girlfriend.

My family does not need to know. It's easier this way.


 No.228619

>>228572

i know how you feel


 No.228623

>Son, if you're gonna be gay be gay

>If you're gonna be straight be straight

>Don't do both

and that's why I can never tell


 No.228676

My immediate family and friends know but my extended family is crazy religious. It was my dad who told me "Oh yeah, don't mention that to your grandmother or your aunt or pretty much anyone on my side of the family. You know how fucked they are"

>talking to grandmother at christmas

>"hey anon, you get a girlfriend yet"

>"no, not yet grandma"


 No.228710

>>228619

D-Do I see a fellow German on /cuteboys/?


 No.228732

>>228710

It's not that uncommon, unless it's all the same one or two Germans.


 No.228749

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>>228301

Large Catholic family and I'm the oldest, so yep.

Although to be fair, I'm still bi scum, and I still go out with women.

Which makes sense considering my attraction to traps and femboys stems from their feminine demeanor, and lack of the whole "I'm crazy for one week every month" bit.

Also, cocks are more fun than cunts, although cunts can be fun at times.


 No.228752

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>>228304

>>228303

To be fair, those sitcoms are degenerate trash.

You can like cuteboys without liking San Francisco esque degeneracy/political bullshit.

Example: /pol/ has a shocking number of men either attracted to other men, or cuteboys.


 No.228754

>>228479

>I didn't want to know anything about my parents sexuality

So you were okay with subjecting them to hearing about your sexuality, but wouldn't listen to what your mom had to say? Wow.


 No.228765

>>228752

Agreed. You can be a faggot without being a fucking faggot degenerate like that.


 No.228776

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>>228572

Dear anon, I know that it's a crapshoot trying to change the way people view all this stuff, so I won't try.

But have a hug, and please don't hate yourself.

>>228765

No matter what uncontrollable genetic or epigenetic hand you've been dealt, it's always possible to make that decision. Sexuality, skin color, genitalia.


 No.228783

>>228572

>95% of the gay community are degenerate scum that should be crucified

I would have that stupid worldview if I spent most of my time looking at screencaps of tumblr morons and videos of paradefags people post on /v/ and /pol/. Most gays are normal.

If you spend most of your time on /v/ you would conclude most fans of Sonic were furfags, but they're not, most just play the games. If you spend most of your time /fit/ you'll conclude that fat people are some of the most delusional on earth. They're not, I know some many former fatasses.

Being gay isn't "default" or "normal", but internet addiction also isn't normal. It creates people who don't want to expend too much energy using their brain. After all they're used to arguing by spamming image macros on 4chan or with character limits and dumb hashtags on twitter or with shitty sjw-tier movie gifs on tumblr. Your perception of gays is warped imo. Internet addiction also goes hand in hand with shitty diet, lack of sleep, poor bloodflow, etc.

Though I agree about being worried about hurting your loved ones. I'm the tallest and most successful person in my family, the first to go to college, etc. It's difficult choosing between my happiness and theirs.


 No.228784

I've never told them and they assume I'm straight.

Idk, I guess I'd think about telling them if I ever manage to get into a successful relationship.

Then there's also an urge to get a wife so I can have a bunch of kids… Se la vi


 No.228785

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>>228776

>skin color


 No.228795

>>228785

Hi, /pol/.

4 BFs: white guy, black guy, Asian guy, mutt. Of the four, the black guy was by far the smartest and most ambitious.

>skipped grades twice in elementary

>in graduate school for materials science

>the only reason I managed to pass a test on related rates when I took calculus


 No.228800

>>228795

>4 bf's

You're a sloooooot


 No.228809

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>>228800

N-not at the same time…


 No.228810

>>228809

Stil a sloot.

You're what? 21? 22? With 4 boyfriends, whatta whore.


 No.228811


 No.228815

>>228811

You should've settled down with a nice cuteboy by now, sloot.


 No.228816

>>228815

Jesus what are you amish? Lay off him yurop


 No.228821

>>228816

I'm just sayin, 4 bf's is pretty whoreish behaviour.

>yurop

Read a book.


 No.228825

>>228821

>not knowing "yurop"

Read an imageboard


 No.228828

>>228784

>Se la vi

It's "c'est la vie," dumbass.


 No.228829

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>>228828

'Murica


 No.228834

>>228825

LURK. You lurk an imageboard, you don't read an imageboard. You read posts. Fucking Americant's.


 No.228840

>>228821

>4 bf's is pretty whoreish behaviour.

>4 distance relationships

>Basically nothing in the way of lewdness

>Dumpee instead of dumper 3 of 4 times

>whoreish

Does a Britbong immediately engage in an exclusive monogamous relationship with all sex in the missionary position the first time a qt tells him that he'll love him forever?


 No.228842

>>228840

>Does a Britbong immediately engage in an exclusive monogamous relationship with all sex in the missionary position the first time a qt tells him that he'll love him forever?

Y-Yes


 No.228845

>>228834

>still doesn't understand what a "yurop" is

You are the newest of new


 No.228885

>>228795

i prolly misunderstood your post but i thought you were saying you could make a decision on your skin color, i'm no /pol/ack, far from it, i mean im part black myself

im dumb as shit and have no ambition tho


 No.228898

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>came out to my parents real causal like

>mom was fine with it

>dad didn't care too much

>both just wanted me to be aware of aids and shit like that

>grandparents found out through mother

>they dont care either

sucks for ya'll niggas


 No.228899

>>228572

haha enjoy living in constant agony while the rest of us gays live happy productive normal lives


 No.228903

>>228885

Probably my fault, no prob. Was trying to say that race, sexuality, sex/gender–uncontrollable characteristics–aren't inherently good or bad things.

Our actions and factors that we can control matter and are what ultimately makes individuals moral or immoral.

Anyone, whether gay/straight/black/white/male/female/demisexual transotterkin (OK, maybe not that last one) can choose to be either productive members of society or degenerates. That's the "decision" I was referring to.


 No.228928

I haven't come out yet, but I have been wondering, how many people here are still religious and are gay?


 No.228931

>>228928

Former dean of the grad school I went to is gay; he's a member of ELCA, which is a Christian denomination that blesses same-sex marriage and ordains gay ministers.

I was raised Catholic; I don't consider myself one anymore, nor religious in general, but I'm still spiritual/think there's something out there. An old man with a beard who created the universe? No, but something.


 No.229022

>>228898

I have a feeling that that's exactly what would happen to me, but I just don't want to talk about my sexuality with family members, that's weird.

>>228899

No gay man can live a life that is happy, productive, and normal. It can only be one or two of those things, but not all three.


 No.229023

>>228928

I identify as Christian if that helps, but I wouldn't consider myself religious. Organized religion is good at distorting the actual teachings of Christ due to its easily corrupted structure.


 No.229025

>>228931

>No, but something.

That's dumb. I mean, I don't wanna start a religious debate but saying you believe in "something" out there is just dumb. Whats wrong with saying "I don't know"?


 No.229066

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>>228795

/pol/ here, actually we're happy you're fucking dudes of other skin colors because it means neither of you are reproducing.

And here you thought we cared, hahaha.


 No.229067

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I've never really seen the point of "coming out" to your parents. I realized I was gay freshman year in highschool and now Im 22 and my parents still dont know.

Why make such a big deal about who you wanna stick your dick in?


 No.229069

>>229023

>sola scriptura

fuck outta here


 No.229070

>>229069

No, not at all. The Bible was compiled by the Pharisees (or similar group of powerful Jews at the time) in order to convince Christ's followers that he supported Judaism, which is not true. I prefer to follow apocryphal scriptures like the Gospel of Thomas and Pistis Sophia.


 No.229072

>>229070

dont they reference Mishnah?


 No.229074

>>229072

I don't believe so. There are references to Judaism in the texts, but they mostly refute Jewish beliefs rather than affirming them.


 No.229080

>>229067

Well, imagine you live in a very conservative household that hates gays. You come out, they either beat you, disown you, or send you to pray the gay away. That's the reality of it for some people, so coming out has a bit of risk to it.

There's also paranoia that your family could be like this even if it's just a possibility.

Also part of it is accepting yourself being different in a way, which is tough for some people.


 No.229081

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 No.229088

My gay level isn't very high so it's easy to conceal, I'm not even attracted to most guys, just feminine ones, and I've never seen one in person.

As long as I'm away from my computer I'm pretty much straight.


 No.229163

There is no point in coming out to your parents if you're bisexual.


 No.229165

>>229066

I'm /pol/ but also a casual faggot.


 No.229170

>>229025

There's nothing wrong with saying "I don't know" at all, it's just that that phrase doesn't describe my beliefs as accurately as "something out there." I don't like using 'agnostic' because to most people it implies that you're unsure whether there's a higher power.

I'm one step up on the belief ladder from there; I think there is something, but I'm not sure what, exactly, it is. That's why I like seeing what religious texts and people have to say even though I don't consider myself religious. Probably "ietsist" or "agnostic theist" would describe me best.

If you think it's a dumb position, that's fine; I respect your opinion.


 No.229172

>>229163

I don't see the point in "coming out" at all.

If you're the type to bring your bf to visit your parents, then just do it. No need to make a big song and dance about it. Send a text saying "Hey is it alright if I bring my bf over and introduce him to you?", that gives them plenty of time to process it.


 No.229173

I am, don't want my brother and sister to find out because they are actually homophobic, and with my parents I get the feeling they would treat me differently if they did find out, not in a negative way, but I feel they'd start handling the topic with kid gloves or something, they do that a lot.


 No.229174

>>229170

I think it's dumb because you believe it without any evidence even hinting to there being a higher power.

I mean, I think there might be other forms of life out in the universe even if it's just bacteria. But that's because it's at least plausible, there's life on earth so it's possible there's life elsewhere given how vast the universe is. But some spiritual being, there's just nothing to support that.


 No.229175

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>>229066

There are these things called "surrogates."

Maybe you should care, hahaha.


 No.229188

>>229174

Evidence is in the eye of the beholder. Biologists who are hard atheists look at a protein synthesis pathway and go "Wow, it's amazing that all of this results from random chance," while I go "Wow, with complexity like this, there's no way this could result from random chance."

Have you ever heard of the simulation argument, perchance? Take a look if you haven't; I think you might find it interesting.


 No.229204

>>229188

The possibility of living in a simulation isn't permission to go believing in any old thing you like with the defense of "well you can't prove X doesn't exist, can you?".

Evidence based science is the next best thing we have to being omnipotent. "Random chance" is selling it short, shit that worked survived and shit that didn't died out. It's not like life magically came into being one day due to random chance, it was a long process of evolution with a long history of failure preceding it.


 No.229217

>>229204

>The possibility of living in a simulation isn't permission to go believing in any old thing you like with the defense of "well you can't prove X doesn't exist, can you?".

I don't find the teapot a compelling argument, at least if we're using it to argue hard atheism instead of agnosticism. It feels circular.

I'm unsure of what you mean by "permission;" last I checked, it was a free society and people do have the right to their own beliefs so long as those beliefs don't translate into actions that harm others.

>Evidence based science is the next best thing we have to being omnipotent.

I agree, when a) properly executed impartially, and b) when answering questions it's designed to answer (that is, about natural phenomena). Science is a very poor arbiter of morality and 'human' (for lack of a better term) processes like economics.

>It's not like life magically came into being one day due to random chance, it was a long process of evolution with a long history of failure preceding it.

[citation needed] on everything before the comma. You're confusing evolution after the origin of life with what came before.


 No.229221

>>229175

This, though I personality wouldn't have a surrogate kid if I ended up with a guy.

>>229163

You will have to eventually if you prefer guys.


 No.229227

>>228899

30% of gay people attempt suicide

Delusion is a strong mental condition.


 No.229250

>>229221

Me neither. I'll probably adopt if I do decide I want to be a parent. Already too many kids in the world without good, loving, stable homes.

>>229227

Not the anon you're replying to, but what's your point, exactly? 30% of gay people having attempted suicide doesn't preclude the 70% that haven't from having happy lives. Nor does it preclude the 30% that attempt, either, if they don't complete the suicide and seek treatment for feeling like shit.


 No.229309

>>229250

A massive 30% attempt suicide. Those that aren't at that point are depressed.

You people are so sad you have a "Sadness Thread" stickied on your board.

If you can't say you're happy, you need to find your problems, and deal with them immediately.


 No.229318

>>229227

the largest group at risk for suicide is actually old white guys

we live long enough to contemplate suicide as a viable option when we get a cancer diagnosis, well, straight ones anyhow, gays live shorter lives on average


 No.229324

>>229309

>Those that aren't at that point are depressed.

About 14% are, if we look at figures from teenagers. That's not everyone.

I'm not depressed, and "you people" is painting with a very broad brush. I, for one, haven't posted in that thread once, and I highly doubt I'm the only one.

If you're arguing that gays have higher rates of mental illness and suicide than the general population, I would say "Duh, I agree." If you're arguing that there's something biologically innate that causes gay people to have more psychological problems, I would say "Maybe, but it's a hell of a lot more likely a result of learned helplessness and societal pressures from both religious fundies and 'progressives' who are only tolerant as long as you agree with them politicially."

>If you can't say you're happy, you need to find your problems, and deal with them immediately.

For 99% of problems, I agree, this is sound advice. Boyfriend broke up with you? Sucks, and you have some right to feel like shit, but you gotta work through it. Upset that you don't have The Perfect Bod? It's always possible to improve that.

But if your problem is being closeted in a house of people who will harm/abandon you if you make any indication of craving cock, then I think one has a legitimate reason to feel sad or overwhelmed.


 No.229391

>>229318

Damn. That's pretty heavy. I'm going to make a promise to myself that that is never going to happen to me.


 No.229415

>Been happily married for over 7 years, no kids

>Love the shit out of my wife

>Only recently started to be more honest with myself about my propensities for dicks and butts

>Terrified of revealing the truth to my wife

Growing up, being anything other than straight was never an option–there were no non-straight folks in my life. I only recently started to understand why when my friends were out chasing women in their early 20's, I wasn't interested. It was only when I met my (now) wife that I really connected. She was the one that initiated contact.

Only within the past year or two have I started to come to terms with my sexual leanings.

You can always get past your parents disagreeing, but I've spent a long time building my life with someone who I am totally committed to. I can't dream of hurting my wife, or not spending my life with her.

I'm utterly stuck.


 No.229421

>>229415

If you love your wife, then what's the problem?


 No.229745

>>228821

>he doesnt know yurop


 No.229747

>>229421

He wants a cock in his ass and his wife doesn't have one.


 No.229824

>>229747

Hey, strapons are a thing.


 No.230078

>>229415

Assuming you've boned your wife a few times in the seven years marriage and preceding dating, combined with the fact you love a chick, chances are you're just bi with a gay preference, so there's very little to worry about. Odds are good she'll be as open minded as you if you're so compatable, but don't be afraid to test the waters and stuff with bi stuff and, if she's cool, discuss trying different sex stuff that'll fill your needs.

Seriously, even ruling out the fact that strap-ons and threeways are a thing and most women are as sexually adventurous as guys, it really could just be a matter of having a talk and telling her that, while you're absolutely in love with her and are attacted to her, you feel the need to tell her that you're bi and have urges towards guys. Yeah, you could just bottle it up and say nothing, but odds are good it'll eat you up inside and hiding big secrets like this for too long can damage a relationship sometimes.


 No.240998

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>>228520

You are me. Apart the mom thing. My mom had the same conduct, but recently I telled her I'm gay. Only her knows that.


 No.241026

I mean I wouldn't say I'm pretending to be straight, it just has never come up. I don't really have any need to tell any of them unless I actually get a boyfriend. I am Biscum tho so that makes it a lot easier.


 No.241030

I still am but I'm slowly coming out more n more. Being in a relationship even if it's long distance really has encouraged me.


 No.241034

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>How many of you are pretending to be straight to your family and friends?

Every waking moment of my life.


 No.241396

I've never come out but aside from the constant jokes asking if I'm gay once my mother saw an entire folder of very lewd and revealing photos of myself and we never talked about it. My mother might have also found my dildos and undies


 No.241435

Hated fags all my life but developed a crush for a guy last year.

Pretending to be 100% straight is easy. (it's not too far from the truth anyway)

I try to make gay jokes around him and shit, but never confessed anything.


 No.241437

>>241435

so, did you stop being homophobic ?


 No.241455

>>228301

i don't pretend for shit. i'm just not a total faggot who acts differently when he thought he was straight and now that he knows he's gay

probably helps I got a Barry White voice

still, if anyone asks me shit about "Do you have plans to get a girlfriend" or "will you ever get married" i'm just gonna answer no every time

i'm not gonna lie to them, i just don't put it out like it's some fucking part of my personality


 No.241468

Yup. But my mum and dad would totally be cool with it anyway.

Besides, I think my mum found my dildo stash ,,I keep finding them slightly rearranged. I suppose the size and amount didnt help.


 No.241469

>>241435

>never confessed to anything

Gay people don't confess their gayness in front of people who make fun of them


 No.241473

>>241455

>still, if anyone asks me shit about "Do you have plans to get a girlfriend" or "will you ever get married" i'm just gonna answer no every time

When someone gets too inquisitive about it, I just quote Bob Marley: No Woman No Cry. It works pretty well.


 No.241484

>>241469

>make fun of them

I don't think you understand the concept.

>>241437

Not exactly.

I still think it's degeneracy.


 No.241540

Never really had a coming out of the closet moment, but I've started admitting I've fucked dudes when appropriate. Pretty liberating feeling, you guys should try it.


 No.241555

>>241540

I've never fucked anyone, though.


 No.242399

>>241484

I don't understand why you consider it degeneracy? Can you explain it in 2-3 sentences ?


 No.242409

Im ugly and awkward so my family doesn't ask about my live life :)


 No.242415

>>229217

not that guy, but

>I don't need permission to believe something

you need permission from yourself to believe something, you only believe what you allow yourself to believe. I'm not sure exactly what that anon meant, I can't speak for him. But "I can believe it because it's a free country" is typically what people cling to when they can't find good arguments otherwise

>that's stupid, don't do that

>I'm not going to dispute that it's stupid, I'm instead going to say I can believe it if I want

no shit you can believe it if you like, that gets us nowhere. What's important is the reasoning and evidence behind it.

>[citation needed on saying that things didn't magically come to life]

Well I'm sure that's entirely possible, though the burden of proof lies with the person claiming that magic happened, not the person denying it. But you are also making an argument from complexity in an earlier post so I shouldn't be surprised that you would also do this.


 No.243138

I want to tell them but scared.


 No.243207

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>>243138

We're all scared.


 No.243213

I feel my dad deep down would be upset but he wouldn't mind

My mum wouldn't give a fuck.

I feel pretty lucky compared to you guys.

Unfortunately I haven't found anyone that stays around for a long enough time to be able to come out for.

I would have no problem and my parents probably think I am bi anyways but for now I will just save the emotions and not mention anything until I find my cuteboy >//<


 No.243218

Biscum here. Came out to best friend then parents. All of them were very supportive. Now to come out to my freinds, that will be interesting. Its always been hinted at I'm gay or gay jokes at me by friends, and they usually make me want to scream.


 No.243220

>>229415

You know when you have spent such a long time in a strong loving relationship, surely she could begin to tell when you are not the same sexually? Believe me women can pick up on the slightest things.

just out of curiosity


 No.243227

>>243218

I make gay jokes at my own expanse. They don't know I'm not just joking…


 No.243235

Friends and family don't know I'm gay, and they think gay people are unnatural and an abomination.

I never got to make any meaningful connections, never got to experience awkward teen love, my cute boy looks are fading as I'm now just an old christmas cake that's forgotten.


 No.243266

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I know that feel


 No.243272

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>decide years ago I wouldn't bother telling them unless I actually got a boyfriend

>that finally happens and I tell them, can tell they're fine with it on the surface but with some reservations they don't want to address

>just keep living life and as time goes on I feel they are getting better with it

I'm finishing up a degree, I don't have time to be too arsed with how other people feel deep down about my getting plowed by another dude. I don't act any differently from how I used to and if that's not good enough for them then that's their issue.


 No.243301

>>229022

>No gay man can live a life that is happy, productive, and normal. It can only be one or two of those things, but not all three.

It's not really what you said but I'm having difficulty imagining a gay who is happy, normal, but unproductive.


 No.243378

>>243227

I feel the same. I'll come out to them sometime, but for now ohh well. I also feel that I don't need labels, and that its more of a thing to put myself out there for other dudes.


 No.243407

>>243301

>happy

>productive

>gay

>normal

Pick at max three.

>happy

>productive

>gay

Flamer but also an intellectual.

>normal

>productive

>gay

Depressed closet gay.

>happy

>normal

>gay

Closet gay with bf.

>happy

>normal

>productive

The heteronormative ideal man.


 No.243636

What's a good way to come out?


 No.243701

>>243636

Just take it out before you come in.


 No.244504

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>>243407

Not that guy but your next to last example of having someone happy, normal, and gay automatically makes them closeted. You seem to take being openly gay as being synonymous with being a flamer and mutually exclusive to normalcy. Or perhaps you equate not being a flamer with being closeted, as if it's this dichotomy of being a pridefag or being closeted. You can affirm that you're gay in relevant conversation topics without making it your complete identity.

With that in mind, it's not logically impossible as you argue to be happy, productive, gay, and normal in a society where the majority accepts gay people who aren't obnoxiously so.


 No.244524

I've been wanting to say I'm bi but there's no point. It would just be problems.


 No.244530

>>243636

give a bj to your dad afterwards


 No.244531

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>Boyfriend is coming over and staying with my parents house with me for a week

>"Tired of all this queer shit corrupting tv, media, etc" father who works out of town 10/12 months of the year just has to happen to have the week off when my bf is coming

>There's no fucking way he's not going to find out or hear us and disown me

>Paperthin walls

>


 No.244536

>>244531

>"Tired of all this queer shit corrupting tv, media, etc" father

I agree with him. Maybe if LGBT stopped shoving its agenda down everyone's throats forcibly, I'd be able to come out and be accepted.

Good luck anon, I'm pretty sure he already knows you're gay.


 No.244552

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>Live at home still.

>Haven't had a girlfriend since freshman year of High School.

>Parents just think I'm too anti-social to get a girlfriend.

>Secretly a prancing la-la homoman.

>Can't even buy a dildo for myself because I don't want to have an awkward talk with my parents.


 No.244839

>>243701

Seriously, I wnat to do it. But, Can't.


 No.244853

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>>244536

agreed. I think I like enough 'manly' things to warrant off most of it. It just makes it seems less likely since what gay in media likes guns, cars, sports and whiskey?


 No.244855

>>228301

I act like I hate both genders equally and am a non-sexual person to most :3 Tends to keep them off my back.


 No.244862

I hide it. At this point I feel like I'm going to take my secret of being gay to the grave with me. Since I'll never have a bf, there's not really a reason to tell anybody, right?


 No.244881

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>>244853

>It just makes it seems less likely since what gay in media likes guns, cars, sports and whiskey?

To be fair, if a gay character is normal and masc, then it's because their sexuality doesn't define them so they're not "the gay character". It's like how feminists bitch about most female characters are just the "damsel in distress" role: if you look, there's a good selection of strong female characters, but you don't really see them as that cause they're well balanced, realistic characters.

I mean, two examples off the top of my head are both twists because they're manly guys and because you only expect to see irritating, flaming faggots in the media. There's predictable with Mitch the jock in ParaNorman, and suprising with Stephen Stills in the Scott Pilgrim comic.

Here's hoping we get realistic representation (i.e. like actual human beings rather than paper cutouts) one day.


 No.244893

>>244862

>Since I'll never have a bf

Why not?


 No.244907

>>244881

>Here's hoping we get realistic representation (i.e. like actual human beings rather than paper cutouts) one day.

Doubtful, because the people pushing these caricatures are the LGBT, the people who dress like fairy faggots in their parades.

I'm not manly. I'm not masculine and I look feminine, but I don't have a lisp and don't dress like a flamer. Yet I'm lumped in with the flamers if people were to know I was gay.

>>244862

>At this point I feel like I'm going to take my secret of being gay to the grave with me. Since I'll never have a bf, there's not really a reason to tell anybody, right?

Same here. Maybe when my parents die I will attempt, but that could be 30 years from now.


 No.244927

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>>228301

>How many of you are pretending to be straight to your family and friends?

Don't exactly pretend anon. I'll tell anyone who asks, but my family has never asked and I try my best to keep it that way.

>tfw cant get all the gayshit you want


 No.244930

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I don't have to, since they don't mind it all that much in the first place. They never ask if I'm going to get a gf or kids, so they have either figured it out or know that I'm a foreveralone anyway. Or they just don't care.


 No.244944

Why do you fags need to tell someone you are straight or gay? Nobody needs to know you like cocks, or furries, or trannies. If someone asks you why don't you have a girlfriend you can just say you don't have time for it.


 No.244947

>>244944

>the year of our Lord 2026

>phone my parents

>Guess what? I'm getting married!

>Parents overjoyed

>Mom gets on phone

>When can I expect grandbabies?

>Well, actually I'm gay….


 No.244950

>>244944

BS excuses I use

>I'm too shy so I don't meet girls at parties, etc.

>I really don't know how to flirt with girls

>oh well I guess I'm too ugly

>I'm still thinking about this girls I met years ago

>I prefer to be friend with her

problem solved

now, ppl think I'm autist/beta/stupid but idc


 No.244952

>>244947

>getting married

nope

>>244950

I straight up tell people I don't give a shit about relationships, it gets me all sorts of weird looks but I don't care since I'll probably never meet most of them again.


 No.244954

>>244952

I say relationships seem like too much trouble, which people tend to hesitantly agree with and leave me alone. I do like girls though, I just really think relationships seem like too much trouble lol.


 No.244970

>>244893

Various reasons, main one is that I'm pretty ugly


 No.244986

File: 1455149008542.gif (2.59 MB, 500x280, 25:14, 1430107776100-1.gif)

>>244881

>Here's hoping we get realistic representation (i.e. like actual human beings rather than paper cutouts) one day.

Anytime I wrote a short story in high school or early in college I wanted to write one in a story somehow without it seeming forced. Even if he's not the MC. I had one idea for a guy in a Dystopian story that was pretty much Bill from Last of us.

It was going to be implied with how he would talk with the male MC and somewhat not deal with the female MC.


 No.244990

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>>228303

Same but i'm more bisexual who like guys more than girls and i live with homophobic parents if they knew they would immediately kick me out of the house and worst of all i have to pretend i'm an incredible asshole to them when they are around….i hate myself


 No.245005

>>244944

>you can just say you don't have time for it

or you can be honest instead of intentionally misleading people to stay in the closet. You're just actively avoiding the question at that point and it hurts your chances of getting that mythical bf because less people know you're available.

Barring situations where you are sure you'll get your shit kicked in or your home kicked out of, you can let people know you're gay in appropriate conversation topics without shoving it down their throats 24/7, there is a middle ground.


 No.245028

I technically am with my family, but with how autistic they are anyway I don't know if… if it really counts.


 No.245330

How do I tell me folks I'm gay?

I want to let them know, but not make a big deal about it. Don't know how to do it though.


 No.245408

What should someone do if they are bi-curious, or even full bi, but don't want to live a homosexual lifestyle? I feel like I can't admit having any gay desires without people trying to bully me into embracing it. I don't wanna do something just because it makes my dick hard if its not gonna make me happy or feel better about myself, but I don't feel like people will understand where I'm coming from.


 No.245419

>>245408

Just stay in the closet, I don't see what's the problem


 No.245427

Okay now to actually answer the OP's question (not that anyone in this thread cares)

I'm pretending to be straight to my dad and to my most homophobic high school friends. Everyone else knows.

My dad was born on an island with 500 people and lived there for ~20 years. He might pretend that he's tolerant, but he's literally the worst.

I won't tell him until I'm financially free of him.


 No.245441

>>245408

>I don't want to live a homosexual lifestyle

then don't make your sexual identity your end-all be-all. Just because you're not getting 18 STDs and fucking anything that moves, doesn't mean you can't be openly gay in that you are not purposefully hiding the fact when you would prefer not to. Your choices are not limited to pride-faggot and closeted sadsack.

What do you see as the "homosexual lifestyle," and does not wanting to do that conflict with your desires?


 No.245442

File: 1455302489245.gif (3 MB, 640x360, 16:9, 1453676902654.gif)

My mum recently completely stopped asking me about girlfriends.

SHE KNOWS


 No.246532

One of the many things i hate:

>be me

>virgin

>still in closet

>hanging out with straight friends

>we randomly meet a cuteboy somewhere

>i am trying to let him know i'm gay

>they keep telling everyone i can't get a gf

>everybody thinks i am straight

>cry

>cry a lot


 No.246536

>>245442

>mum

>American

Wat


 No.246537

File: 1455670206851.png (2.03 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1452610460102.png)

>>228301

What I do in bed is my own business, I don't see why people insist on telling everyone about it or "coming out" like it really matters.

If someone asks I tell them to fuck off they wouldn't like it if I demanded they to tell me all the filthy shit they do in bed.


 No.246545

>>246532

>they keep telling everyone i can't get a gf

>No shit I can't get one, I'm gay

There, problem solved.


 No.246626

>>246537

Not them but the whole point of coming out for me is to get myself out there. Currently everyone is pretty much assumed to automatically be straight (just human nature) except for people who fit stereotypes. So when I see that cute gay friend eyeing me and I'm sorta eyeing him, he is probably wondering whether I am actually gay or just eyeing him for no reason. In this situation maybe I am waiting for him to make a move but he did not because I never said I was gay, and then his logic was "not gay, move along". Of course if he did have the knowledge I was actually gay, his actions, and mine aswell, may have likely been different. This could also be applied to a different situation, say some girl was eyeing me, and I was eyeing her although not for the same reasons. She however defaulted to the logic that " not stereotype, no suspection otherwise, must be straight" making her wait for me to make a move instead of moving on, because I was not interested as being gay. Maybe that makes sense, maybe not. In the future however I would hope that people would not as easily to default to assuming someone is straight, but instead be open to other traits (if that makes sense), but not at all "HE HAS NO GF, MUST BE GAY". The root of most of this seems to be psychological and maybe cultural. As for how to accomplish this, I have no clue, but thats probably politics.


 No.246683

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">"be 24

">"bi?

">"have a daughter that's 8 months old.

">"in a serious relationship with gf for almost 2 years.

">"plan to get married in the near future.

">"was raped by dad before leaving my family.

">"often suicidal & no confidence and self-destructive.

">" I'm attracted to guys younger alot younger than me or alot older than me age 40+

">"moved to Las Vegas for a better job regret it, miss family.

">"often masturbate to Shota

">"smoke weed often to forget the pain

I feel like I'm losing my self I'm lost and empty inside.

">"in a secret relationship with gf younger brother.

">"I'm in too deep.


 No.246693

>>tfw biscum in a shitty conservative country

>>tfw friends at work constantly make tasteless gay jokes

>>tfw most people, even "educated middle-class" ones would instantly think less of me if they found out I was bi

>>tfw I sometimes want to shout out: Yeah I'm a fucking faggot, I epilate my asshole and have guys stick their dick up there,how fucking evil of me, you intolerant, ignorant cunts

>>tfw my only outlet is this guatemalan mezzotint ezine


 No.246697

>>246693

>you intolerant, ignorant cunts

i didn't realise that i was browsing tumblr


 No.246702

>>246697

Bong, I know you live in almost cultural marxist distopia, but that does not mean other people have to deal with the same non-problems as you do.

Like the mudslimes you are importing. You would say they are intolerant and ignorant, no? There are a lot of really intolerant and ignorant people in the world.

Its just that you guys had so few of them recently you decided to import.

You know, there are places in the world qts actually get mugged to death by walking around holding hands. We aren't all a progressive and tolerant society free of hate and discrimination like you are.


 No.246707

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>>246683

The fuck is wrong with your dad?


 No.246766

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>Selling house after parent's marriage finally fell apart

>Stuck at home because lel no skills or job, still scraping by in community college, and need to help Mom because she was always a housemaker and can barely write or speak English.

>Dad constantly barges into home and takes whatever he wants from the house even if me or my mom bought it with our own cash.

>Without fail, if I leave my computer on and unlocked he'll begin browsing it and looking at my search history, emails, chat log, pretty much everything, and then downloads it to a USB so he can show me later and bitch because he's a Pentecostal cuck.

>I've gotten the hang of turning off my computer every time I leave the house, and locking it when I go away from it since one time he snuck in while I was on the porch. He constantly bitches at me for the password and I've finally manned up enough to tell him to fuck off.

>Though I fucked up a few times early on.

>Somehow never comments or screencaps the hundreds upon hundreds of gay porn site in my search browser, commissioned art work of gay porn, gay fapfictions I've attempted to write. I think he mentioned one ERP log I had.

>Still constantly ask me when I'm getting a girlfriend.

I don't know if he's in denial or not but I don't care. I'm most worried he'll tell my Mom because that would devastate her.


 No.246770

>>246766

I'm sorry anon but your mom has to go back


 No.246780

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>>246537

>asking if someone is gay = wanting to know about filthy shit they do in bed

no you dip, if someone asks you if you're gay then it's wondering about a basic fact about you, or if they are interested in you then it's asking whether or not you are available. Of course, people are much less likely to ask you out if you are closeted because of hangups about your sexuality.

"Coming out" matters to people that want to up their chances at a relationship just like putting a sign on your business and advertising matters to people who want to succeed in that respect. If you make people have to stop on their daily commute, drive up and park in the parking lot of your unmarked building, and peek in through the cracks of the tinted windows to see that you actually sell a product, then surprise, you're not going to have much business, if any. Or if you're aggressively closeted and put up signs saying business for gay business is closed at every opportunity, then again you're not getting much action now are you?

tl;dr people come out because it makes them less likely to be lonely with hangups


 No.246799

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>finally accept being bi

>have a bf

>choose not to bring it up because everyone thinks I'm straight

>we bash homos while playing pathfinder when elves get brought up

I don't know how to feel about life


 No.246803

>>246799

>bi

>bash homos

wut? im not sure how one accomplishes that


 No.246871

>>246803

Bash homos with his cock.


 No.246877

>>246799

Is ok, why should we fencesitters declare openly what we are, if the implications of that info for our social circles dont mean much in the end but a bit more complications due to people wondering if you secretly looked at their ass or are actually ultrapromiscutiv or similar angsty stuff.


 No.246880

>>246766

If he keeps stealing your shit you can report him to the authorities. It could end up in a restraining order for him.

Then again you're in 'murica, so that might financially break your back or something, idk.


 No.246921

>>228301

Why would I do that? I'm gay and a proud LGBT activist! Because of me thousands of LGBT lifes were saved from fascists and religious zealots! I have more than five thousand likes on facebook! I won't rest until the gay lifestyle is accept by society, I swear.


 No.249047

no reason to come out to my family if I don't have a bf to prove it ;_;


 No.249048

I'm pretending to be gay for /cuteboys/


 No.249055

Reporting, il try to not show it away cause of the place il live in.

>hey anon no gf yet ?

That question pisses me off so much.


 No.249060

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The only reason I "still in the closet" is the fact that I dont have a husbando.

But some persons in my family suspect me. My cousin, sometimes I talk with him about sexuality, and the homosexual point is approached. He is very open with the issue, even though he is a natural-law-follower rad-trad catholic.

My mom already knows. She don't really care too much, even though she is worried about the closet issue. You know: "if you still in the closet, you will suffer to much :c" and bla bla bla. Also, she obviously stoped to talk about girlfriends after I revealed.

But it doesn't matter too much. I'm not worried anymore about any stereotype given the fact that I don't act like a bitch. Honestly the only thing i'm worried is about my borderline disorder, but it's another story.

Also, I'm 18.


 No.249092

>>228520

>With friends I sometimes play off the "lol saying gay things for a joke haha!" thing but insdie I mean it and it's my way of getting my feelings off my chest without coming out.

literally me


 No.249096

>never had any relationship whatsoever

>mom asks if i ever planned on getting married

>say i don't really care about getting married

>ARE YOU GAY

>"n-no"

>ARE YOU SURE? I WOULDN'T JUDGE

>"NO"

That's the extent of my 'pretending'.


 No.249140

>>249096

why would you get married if you were straight anyway


 No.249144

>>249140

Exactly. Fuck being trapped with a woman who can just leave and take half of everything I own with her.


 No.249221

Nobody's ever really asked me? At least not ever since I realized I was bisexual (must have been 3 years ago).

That being said I act like a straight guy in terms of speech (inflection) and conversation.

My mannerisms a little less so. I look a a little more feminine than other guys my age, I have an interest in being fashionable, in cooking, art, and I tend to have a very feminine pose (subconsciously, I only notice it when I see video of me).

It's almost like everybody's afraid to ask? It might be because my attitude, but I really wouldn't lie about how gay I am if anybody ever asked, I think.


 No.249267

>>249221

I am personally starting to open up about my sexuality. At first I decided that I would tell my closest friends and family that I was bisexual. That went pretty well, but then I realized… Who really cares? Obviously it would be nice to get myself out to other gays and like, but otherwise it doesn't matter anymore to me. If somebody did ask if I was gay or not, I may or may not answer truthfully, as the response would be wierd if I only told a few friends and the others were left clueless. I would rather not face "Why didn't you tell me but not them?", but it may happen.

I have also noticed that I have always been more feminine, however only recently have I noticed that I too have a rather feminine pose.


 No.249300

>>228371

You sound like a really level-headed person.




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