No.238414
Is spironolactone reversible? If I stop taking it, will everything eventually go back to normal?
No.238422
No.238434
>>238414
Breast growth would need surgery to undo, and if you plan on having kids someday, you should worry about the effects on sperm.
Otherwise you're mostly okay.
No.238435
>>238414
What are the main active ingredients and at what % of it's listed?
No.238438
>>238434
>Breast growth
>Spiro
it's just a testosterone blocker, no? you need estrogen to grow tits afaik
No.238439
>>238438
Less test means your receptors are free to tak more estrogen. That's why you cant just take estrogen. Your receptors can only take so many hormones. So you generally take a test inhibitor to encourage estrogen
No.238444
Admin might as well rename this place /cuteTRANNIES/
No.238449
>>238444
and you might as well /fuckoffcunt/
No.238450
>>238444
jealous hon detected
No.238464
>>238449
piss off tranny enabler
>>238450
Nope, I'm a man. You do know that the board if called /cuteBOYS/. Go back to mtfgeneral freak.
No.238479
>>238434
>>238439
So even though I might ONLY be taking spiro, I would still get permanent breasts only removable by surgery? Really?
No.238516
>>238479
Where did you get your spiro, anon?
I wanna get some
No.238521
No.238529
>>238444
>>238464
>>238521
I swear to god I'll actually do this if you keep bitching
No.238533
>>238516
Question in OP was just a hypothetical.
>>238529
I'm guessing you have no idea either -> >>238479
No.238535
Ok, actual tranny here.
It's pretty damn reversible. Spiro will let your nipples get kinda puffy, but there won't be any significant breast growth without estrogen supplements. If you stop taking spiro, your body will naturally become more masculine over time due to naturally produced testosterone again. You may be infertile for good though.
It is a bad idea to take only anti-androgens though, especially with no intention to continue with HRT. Your body needs sex hormones, either of them, and you can actually do irreversible damage to your reproductive system, and glands over time. Commit or don't, essentially. Spiro is NOT a "make me androgynous" pill. It's a stopgap for medical transition, nothing more.
No.238536
>>238535
B-but where do I get spiro?
;-;
No.238537
>>238536
A doctor. Say you're trans.
Failing that though, AllDayChemist is where I got mine before I had a prescription. It seems like shady Indian shit, because it is, but it works.
No.238541
>>238516
>>238536
https://www.inhousepharmacy.vu
the only thing is it has crazy long shipping times, it took me like two weeks but it's from some pacific shithole and I live in the UK so it might be different for you
No.238543
>>238537
>>238541
That is how you get poisoned!
No.238545
>>238529
Do not listen to them, they are just bitter because they cant get a /cuteboy/ of their own
No.238547
>>238546
Paranoia. I used ADC and not only am I still alive, it worked as promised. If you live in America you can't use inhousepharmacy, be warned, but ADC is still fair game.
No.238548
>>238547
ADC for me, then! :D
No.238550
>>238548
Don't be stupid, start out with no more than 100mg a day for 2 weeks, get bloodwork done, and face the fact that you're going to be hurting yourself if you don't take estrogen with it long term. If that's a sacrifice you're willing to make, then go for it I guess.
No.238563
>>238529
I kind of agree with them
No.238565
>>238563
For a place with BOYS in the title theres a hell of a lot of people asking for advice on how not to be one.
No.238569
>>238550
Yeah, I will be taking Estrogen with it too. Is there anywhere I can get estrogen online too? Or should I use that Pueraria Mirifica stuff?
Should I change my hair color from brown to something? Earrings? Oh gosh I can't decide I'm excited bleh
>>238565
Of course we're still boys, as the /pol/acks always say, you can't change your chromosomes!
;-;
No.238571
>>238569
Pueraria is a meme. It does basically nothing. If you take that *and* HRT, it might help, but it's basically pointless.
You can get E from ADC too.
Don't dye your hair, brunette is pretty. (Then again, I'm a natural blonde) And bright colors are tumblr-tier.
No.238572
>>238565
I don't think feminization is horribly bad. But it would be a lot healthier if this place would stop pushing the belief that looking like a girl is the end-all be-all of cuteness.
Because like you said we're still boys.
No.238575
>>238571
A few anons recommended black hair last night, I don't want unnatural colors though. Brunette or black?
No.238576
>>238571
>>238575
Oh and also, what kind of estrogen? Like, brand names on ADC.
No.238577
>>238576
>>238575
I say brown, but I dunno, I'd have to see you. You don't have to post a pic though, I know that I don't like doing it.
And just search "estradiol", it's what they sell on ADC iirc.
No.238578
>>238577
Would progynova work?
No.238579
>>238578
>progynova
Oh yeah that's what it's called. Yeah it's that.
No.238580
>>238579
Awesome, thanks! I'll probably buy the 2mg Prog and 25mg Aldactone, should I go a month with just the Alda then start the Prog?
No.238581
>>238580
Don't do that, get the 100mg aldactone. When at full speed you should be taking 200mg of spiro, or potentially even more. You don't want to eat 8 pills a day do you? Just get the 100mg.
No.238584
No.238587
>>238581
One last thing, should I take the hormone suppressor before the estrogen? Estrogen before suppressant? By how long? Or should I just take the two together from the get-go?
No.238588
>>238587
Start out with 100mg spiro/day for two weeks. Then 200mg a day for another two weeks. Then add 2 mg of E a day for two weeks. Then up to four on your seventh week. This will ease your body into it to avoid hormonal shock, and will also test if you are allergic to spiro before you start combining meds.
No.238669
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>>238535
>>238550
So Spiro can't be taken as a way to preserve one's youthful/relatively more feminine appearance, because using it by itself will cause serious harm. Therefore I'm left with two options:
>Don't use Spiro, youthful appearance lost
>Use Spiro and be forced to also take estrogen, causing permanent and irreversible changes, turning me into >>238569 who will severely regret his decision in as little as 10 years, when his looks fade and realizes that current technology had by no means the ability to turn him into what he wanted.
It looks like Advanced Medical Technology is my only option, which won't be arriving until 2037. It's in current biotechnology majors' hands now. Godspeed to any of them reading this.
No.238671
>>238669
Spiro isn't an anti-aging drug. It's an androgen blocker. It doesn't make you look younger, it makes you look less manly. You'll still age, just androgynously.
And I'v eheard mixed stories on Spiro. Doctors generally say your body needs a sex hormone, any sex hormone, to function properly, but I've heard stories of people on here taking spiro for long periods of time with no backlash, so maybe its your prerogative to roll the nice. That's your decision.
In addition, if you want to actively reverse the effects of testosterone and look more feminine, Spiro won't do it. MtF teens, like 16 and under, will usually get on spiro only to start because T hasn't done much to their body yet. Imagine it like a race, Testosterone vs. Estrogen racing to sexualize your body. Since you're male, Tesosterone is stronger and is winning. Spiro will put some cinderblocks on Testosterone's legs, but you'll need Estrogen if you want femininity to catch up with masculinity.
And finally, are you trans? If you hate the idea of having a male body, you probably at elast have some mild dysphoria. If you're 22 or younger, I say go to a therapist and talk about it. Not saying you should transition, (Contrary to popular belief, I don't think every person with dysphoria should transition), but it's worth looking into.
No.238674
>>238671
Anti-aging is synonymous with remaining youthful-looking. Androgynous is youthful.
No.238686
>>238674
Not true at all. Androgynous means possessing features of both male and female appearance, usually to the point where it is difficult to tell the real gender. Androgyny *can* look youthful, but you can be old-looking and androgynous too. What it would do is prevent you from aging like most men do, and you wouldn't pick up the physicl characteristics of older men, but you'd still age.
But it does tend to make guys look younger. I'm not denying that. But it isn't magic.
No.238687
>>238588
Sounds good, I'll be a cute girl in no time then!
No.238689
>>238687
lol. nah. hormones don't work that way. They help, they help a lot, but you gotta put in work too. Make-up, wardrobe, voice, mannerisms… all things hormones don't change. That's on you.
It also takes like 6-months to a year to start *really* feeling the effects. You'll notice some things before then but not many. Gotta persevere.
No.238694
>>238689
I know, I'm just hyped. I can work on the more technical stuff after I start, right now I just have to order the stuffs.
No.238698
>>238694
I know, I'm just making sure you know that hey aren't miracle pills. It is pretty nice to see someone so excited and new on their path. Good luck :D
No.238723
>>238698
They're a miracle to me anon :3
No.238730
>>238729
But we are still technically boys anon, its just that we look like girls.
No.238732
>>238729
I don't understand why they don't just form their own board for tranny issues.
No.238735
>>238732
Like it or not this thread is relevant to /cuteboys/. OP isn't even trans. He wants to REVERSE the effects of the spironolactone.
I have always allowed one or two threads for trans anons to talk about trans stuff. Stop acting like this is something brand new.
No.238737
>>238735
>I have always allowed one or two threads for trans anons to talk about trans stuff.
Theres quite a few more threads than 1 or 2.
>Stop acting like this is something brand new
I'm not acting like it's brand new, it's been a problem for a while
Also
>deleting people's posts
Oh boy
No.238738
>>238737
You can take it up with me over email if it's actually a problem for you. Stop derailing this thread.
No.238743
>>238737
Pls no bullying the cuteboiis/grills
No.238744
>>238738
>Stop derailing this thread
You mean the one that's already been derailed? It started as OP asking for ways to reverse the affects of Spiro. Now there are people discussing forms of hormones to use in "transitioning".
If you're ok with this then fine, that's your prerogative, but what I disagree with is deleting dissenting opinions in what I can only assume is an attempt to create a "safe space". I'd just like to remind you that this isn't tumblr.
No.238750
>>238744
>what I disagree with is deleting dissenting opinions
No, what you care about is keeping trans stuff off this board because you don't like loosely related topics for some reason even though they have nowhere else to go. You're just using my deletion of what was blatantly someone shitposting to make it seem like I'm some sort of SJW dictator.
I'm not going to continue having this discussion with you in this thread. If you actually give a shit about the board then email me. All you're doing is making it more difficult for other people to talk about their own shit. Everyone was having a perfectly nice time before you came in.
No.238805
Come on guys, lets all be kind to eachother here. Transsexuals have just as much right to use the board as gays do.
Also, black hair or brunette hair?
No.238857
>>238581
>>238588
Just bought 30 pills of Ald today, its coming in a week or two. I'm excited already anon, what is this feeling?
No.238884
>>238572
Well I mean, that's only because femboys seem to be the most popular kind of cuteboy. Nothing wrong with that, you can always make your own thread to post whatever kind of cuteboy you want.
No.239717
>>238857
Anticipation for something you've wanted for a long time.
No.239733
>>238464
angry /pol/ user that just left the closet
No.239741
>>238805
Highly disagree.
I could tolerate a containment thread or two, but these fucks seemingly never check the catalog for any threads related to what they want.
No.239760
>>238565
'tranny' here
>still has XY chromosomes
>still has a dick
In what way am I NOT male? You can't actually change sex.
No.239763
>>238857
>only 30 pills
Thats literally nothing
No.239876
Hi, I'm a degenerate tranny. I've been on t-blockers and estrogen for two months.
Ask me whatever.
>>238857
>30 pills of t-blockers
That's literally going to have little to no effect on you.
No.239890
>>239876
Degenerate tranny wannabe here
How much
Process
When
Do you look cute already?
No.247472
>>239876
Do you know of any places where people have documented in meticulous detail with photo evidence the transition in action?
I want to see this close up.
Also, sorta in theme with the thread - Do you know of anything similar to the above but for people who have had goals like OP?
hrt for androgyny?
pls respond.
No.255959
>>238541
inhousepharmacy doesnt ship to germany and all other online pharmacies for germany you need to send a prescription. where else could i get it?
or would i just get spiro prescribed if i am male?
No.256079
>>238529
Prepare to loose most of the userbase then.
Will never understand these chemheads fucking their brains up for androgynity alone.
grow up boys, youve got like 1 decade and a few extra years where you can be some girlish gaytwink but after that you gonna embrace manhood.
Its just how things go, resisting against it is the male equivalent to vain bitches and their beauty OPs..