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 No.23055

I want to become a nomad. Ideally, I want to get an SUV, but some bedding in the back of it, and live out of it either full time or part time while traveling across the country. My plan is to either park in busy parking lots at night (they'll be empty, but fill up in the day and surround my car) or at rest areas and state parks. I will move around from area to area whenever I feel like moving.

I'll bring a laptop, mobile devices, a bicycle, my guitar, clothes, small tools, and whatever brouzouf I have. I want to live a simple life on the road; I would need brouzouf for gas and for food, which I would try to be as frugal as possible with.

I want to learn to program so that maybe I can be a freelance programmer and sustain myself while on the road. That's inherently cyber as fuck, but the only problem is that I don't know the first thing about programming and the concept of advanced programming confuses me to no end. I am extremely willing to put the work in to learn. I tried to learn C++ but I had no fucking clue how to even run a program. Compilers confuse me. I'm going to try to learn Python to get my foot in the door.

Any advice?

 No.23059

There is no brozouf in being a freelance programmer. Drop that shit.

Someone posted in some other thread about how he bought a minivan and put a CNC in it. He allegedly earns 60k a year. Or try 3D printing, but it's still shit atm.

And you'll need something a bit bigger than SUV for all the things you wrote.

Dump the excitement about it and think rationally.

Not all people understand programming. Most of them get hyped, start to learn and quit soon.


 No.23063

You'd need to work out a feasible plan for earning buck before you go full nomad. Programming companies generally like their staff to work in central office buildings.


 No.23064

>>23055

>>23059

>>23063

I've read about programmers going out and traveling to various countries while still working "from home" for a company. A guy I know used to do work for several companies and made a lot of brouzouf in a short period of time, but then again he did also spend a large part of the day working on it - from home. It's not impossible to imagine working for 1 company "from home" and then decide to go travel somewhere, because as long as you have an internet connection and can finish what you're supposed to finish you're golden. Also, depending on where you want to go, the amount of brouzouf needed varies a whole lot.

To OP:

Don't invest too much thought into this idea of an SUV and the whole lot. You first need to actually get work as a programmer, and you need to find one that can consistently give you something to do, then you can consider what it would take to pack up and drive around. Since you don't actually know any programming yet, there's no point in thinking about all these specifics, the only way this idea can help you is to motivate you to keep learning and once you've learned keep looking for work.


 No.23065

>>23064

You don't need a whole lot of skill to become homeless though.


 No.23068

>>23055

1. C++ is actually tough, you picked a shitty first language.

2. Python is excellent to start with. Take online tutorials, you never really learn from reading most times

3.Living nomadically is fun but one question: electricity and toilets. How will you shit and piss? Are you going to fork out the brouzouf to buy solar panels for your van?

4.There are so many programmers out there you'd never be able to sustain yourself most times. I recommend finding jobs as you go. Once you get as much as you like, move to the next area. Keep accumulating brouzouf like this.

5. If after all this you still want to go on this adventure, then here's a few hints for you:

-get a portable stove/oven to cook food

-learn to love bottled water

-always carry a few lighter fluid containers to fill up said stove

-make sure you get out of the van and stretch/exercise often. Seriously.

-try to see if you can embed a sink into your van and have a water container in there

-tl;dr an RV is more what you need.


 No.23096

>>23065

This

>>23068

>>23068

>I recommend finding jobs as you go. Once you get as much as you like, move to the next area.

That's not very practical. It's not exactly as easy to pick up jobs like in olden hobo days. You need to churn through applications, and you'll probably end up at a burger joint or manual labor.

OP, this is honestly a really cool idea, and I'd love to do it myself, but you are full to the brim with excitement, and it's clouding your logic. You're probably also pretty young.

Go to college, everyone.


 No.23097

>>23068

Well, actually, an RV isn't what OP needs.

One of the unfortunate things about living in the United States, at least, is that living an alternative lifestyle where you aren't hopelessly in debt paying for a house you don't need or throwing your brouzouf down a rat hole paying it to a landlord. Regardless of whether it is chosen or not, homelessness has an undue level of stigma and is legally discouraged, in fact. Especially with something like an RV that is very conspicuous and takes up a lot of space, you're going to run into problems almost anywhere you go that isn't out in the country with police harassing you for parking. Being more noticeable also is just not a good thing in general, both for avoiding the law and people looking to take your shit.

So when you're thinking of living on the road, a van is likely going to be your best option. Anyone in the thread interested in this should look up, "Stealth van living"; basically the idea is to have a van modified to be liveable, while still being a van, and thus able to pass more easily as a vehicle no one is living in.

Solar panels, as far as I'm concerned, are a must for this sort of project - especially if this is a /cyber/-centric project. If you don't have multiple monitors mounted on the walls and antennas to crack wifi networks a mile away, you're doing it wrong. Having a backup battery - something intended to be used on a boat would work well - is also a good idea.

The biggest problem is going to be water and sewage. Contrary to popular belief: Unless you're a sweaty pig, you don't really need to bathe that often. Once a week is adequate. The problem is of course finding a place to bathe once in awhile; you can to a certain extent clean yourself dryly, but you won't be able to get around needing to use external facilities eventually for water bathing, which isn't as convenient as having your own private facilities. One can use a sink in a public restroom to bathe a different section of their body each time they bathe, or perhaps find a fucking river somewhere. Sewage is a bigger issue, but there are small portable toilets made for camping/RV's that are dry and use chemicals to break down sewage. It's not ideal to keep a bucket of dissolving shit and piss in your van, but it is also possible to do this cleanly and to neutralize the smell.

Drinking water will also be an issue. Having to pay for bottled water sucks, and bottled water is one of the biggest artificial wants/needs to ever be spawned by capitalism. I don't think it is inconceivable that one could keep refillable containers filled with drinking water, but you wouldn't be guaranteed to always be able to easily find a place to fill it up, especially if you're going to be on the move.

You'll also need to figure out how you're going to store food. Fridges are bulky and heavy; not sure how much power they consume, though. It might be possible to get a small fridge to keep perishables, but you'll need to be restocking it fairly often, even if you learn to be very monkish and eat as little as possible.

So, there are definitely some major compromises to consider, but there are compromises with everything. Living in a static residence is a lot more convenient and safe than living in a van, but convenience is also the opiate of the first-world masses. We make so many concessions in our lives for the sake of convenience; at what point do we say that we have reached a point where we aren't actually living, and decide we need risk, excitement, and freedom in our lives?

That's one major advantage of this van idea, if you can find the means to sustain yourself financially: Freedom. While living in a van isn't the only potential route to attaining freedom, it is one to consider if the compromises it involves can be mitigated to an extent that you find acceptable and if you can find a way to make brouzouf. As others in the thread have said, though, making any brouzouf as a programmer is apparently not that easy.


 No.23101

>>23097

also, this >>23096

Getting even a shitty minimum wage job in the 21st century is a pain in the ass. You'd be better off turning to a life of crime, selling warez out of your van, being a pickpocket or a burglar, stuff like that.

Honestly, that's also one of the advantages of living out of a van: your options for living as a criminal, if you are so inclined to do so, become more open because you're living off the grid and always on the move.

Frankly, I think that a mix of legal and illegal activities in this sort of situation is a good idea. Contributing shit to the world writing code and writing programs is great and all, but stealing brouzouf from yuppies and normies who have more shit than they know what to do with or faceless corporations when you can't make any brouzouf doing something worthwhile because our society doesn't value it is something to consider.

I mean, unless you're a moralfag or something. But we're all anarchists here.


 No.23102

>>23097

On the topic of showering: public swimming pools and/or sports centers. They're also a nice source of exercise, never forget about having some of that.

Watercooler bottles are probably cheaper than individual bottles. Otherwise companies would just refill their watercoolers with water bottles. Big bottles of water + a bag of rice + cooking equipment = a lot of food, too.

You might be able to eat at a homeless shelter once in a while; I'm not sure how those work in the US.

Maybe keep a fruit plant on your dashboard. It's not much, but it does provide an occasional snack, and people plain old like plants. At least this one would have some function.


 No.23108

>>23055

Learn about what the rules are for where you can park and live. Van's and camper trucks can park at normal campsites in most states/national forests, RVs and traielrs frequently require permits etc.

Get your shortwave/CB radio license and learn to talk trucker.

You need a mix of modern skills and primitive skills. Learn how to fix your vehicle before you get too far from whatever support you have. Learn how to forage, dumpster dive, wilderness and ubran survival etc for when you cannot find jobs or in case you break down and cannot fix it.

Having a bugout/possibles bag is even more important when living nomadically. Same goes for good EDC. If everything you have is in your vehicle and you are forced to leave it you better be able to survive without it.

Invest in merino wool under clothes. Minus33 seems to be a pretty good brand in regards to price/value. They last longer between washes, are good in hot, cold, and wet. It is pretty expensive, but you only need a set of about 3 (plus something to sleep in). For outerware I suggest going to a local thrift store at each town you intend to spend any time in. It helps you fit in and when you get to the next place you can throw out excess clothing without it being too costly.

Keep up your hygiene. It well help you get jobs, blend in, and stay out of police trouble. This includes the inside and outside of your vehicle.

Getting paid without an address and bank accounts can be difficult. Same goes for phone/data. Small towns are more likely to have migrant jobs. Most of them have one or two people who do IT support. They usually suck ass. If you can find a reputable local business and fix up their computers that can lead to more work. Otherwise being farm/ranch hand for a few months in growing season is likely if you are physically fit and take orders well. Sometimes comes with bunk and board. On that note check out WWOOF (world wide orgainziation of organic farmers) they have a listings book for people looking for help and will tend to be friendly to alternative lifestyles.

Winters will be hard, specially outside of cities. Even if you spend most of your year traveling it can make things a lot easier to have a homebase. Even if it is just a friends couch you can crash on and an address you can use. If that doesn't work/appeal to you, having a yearly route schedule can provide some stability. Follow seaonal jobs, etc. If people in a town know you will be there every X month that can make it easier to find work.

You will need to know how to protect yourself. This primarily means how not to look like a good target and how to deescalate conflict. Having the skills to handle a real conflict will give you the confidence to do the above. This also includes being aware of cultural differences and knowing how to deal with other transient peoples. Most are just people like yourself, but there are plenty that are actually on the run and/or totally socially maladaptive and potentially dangerous.

Most importantly though, you need to realize you a probably a long way away from successful NEET lifestyle. This takes planning and commitment, otherwise it can cost you the rest of your life. Either through actually killing you, or leading you down a path that will not allow reintegration.

As others said, develop your skills before you go out, and preferably find a remote job that will support your budget. The stuff you find on the road can provide a nice income boost and maybe even a transition to your primary once you have a pattern etc, but it is not a good way to start this unless you have serious savings.


 No.23123

>>23101

>implying we're not all morally obliged to fuck over corps/yuppies as much as possible


 No.23127

>>23123

One would think so, but I've had a fair share of people use le ebin "edgy" buzzword meme for responding to shit like stealing from corps and yuppies.


 No.23149

>>23123

It's difficult to really figure out what a yuppie is or why I should hate them, so I disagree on that. The fact that someone is wealthier than me doesn't mean I should bust their shit up.

When it comes to corps, it gets tricky. Trashing them to "stick it to the man" is pretty stupid. Do you really expect to change anything like that? These corporations are set up to deal with the occasional theft and robbery. The only thing that'll happen is you'll get cops on your tail. There's enough plenty in this land that you don't actually need to steal to live comfortably. Figure out some good trash spots for food and electronics and you'll be fine. Don't focus so much on striking down corporations, think more about building a society that thrives without them. Free software is an excellent example of how to fuck with the man without getting fucked by the man.

>>23101

>le edgy anarchist meme

I'm an anarchist and I believe in voluntary arrangements and strong communities that engage in armed self-protection. There's no room for scummy thieves anywhere I live.


 No.23151

>>23149

In such an anarchist society, I agree that thieves wouldn't be a good thing. I don't want selfish assholes fucking up a good thing anymore than you do, even if I have a bit of sympathy to anarcho-nihilism and illegalism and don't necessarily mind people actively doing damage to the State/Capitalists and their proponents.

As far as stealing from yuppies goes: For the most part, if I were to make a gross generalization, I'd say that they tend to be ignorant fucks who routinely exploit other people and are very much in favor of capital. In that sense, a lot of them are enemies to me.

As far as stealing from the corps goes: Again, I agree that stealing shit from them for the sake of stealing shit isn't a very good idea. Unless you're collaborating with other saboteurs or doing it as part of a direct action sort of protest thing, it's pretty much a high-risk low-reward deal.

However, if you can work the system and get what you need to survive while still living reasonably safely and comfortably - such as in this sort of scenario we're imagining, where getting resources and brouzouf might be difficult but you're also on the move constantly and living off the grid - I say go for it. You do some small damage to the corps, get the shit you need, feel like an outlaw - I think that sounds pretty schway. But you've got to make it work and be a skilled thief, otherwise you are indeed an edgy idiot who will get it up the ass from Bubba in prison.

Dumpstering is also a good thing to take part in if one was going to be living out of a van. In general it's pretty /cyber/ too, and free shit.


 No.23195

About to start doing this. Wish me luck brothers. Here's my ideas so far.

Sewage: Use sawdust and plastic liner in a bucket. Cover the shit with more sawdust.

Sawdust alone is adequate to eliminate smell. The excess carbon + nitrogen means only carbon dioxide and heat is produced, with no smell. If there were inadequate carbon, then smell would occur. Fine charcoal (carbon) also works.

Apparently from what I've seen online, with enough sawdust you could piss in it too and still have no smell, but generally speaking the liquid of piss makes it a less desirable environment. So I'd piss in a milk gallon and throw out the bottle.

Foods: stay close to grocers and shop local every day.

My foods are primarily milk, fruit, meat, shellfish, some sugar. Keep what you can with you (like fruit and some canned food will last with you no problem).

Morning, buy milk and keep it with you for the day. For a day, refrigeration shouldn't be necessary.

Lunch, buy some meat, fresh shellfish, 6 eggs, etc. Cook it with a portable grill. You could cook outside at those free picnic/park spots too, if the weather's nice.

Dinner is just more milk, fruit, sugar.

Drinking water is unnecessary with milk (milk is mostly water anyways).

Bathing can be done with a bucket to put yourself in, another bucket to keep hot water (boil it on your stove), a bit of soap and a sponge.


 No.23197

>>23195

Just so you know: an excess of milk can leave you lactose intolerant. I used to down a carton every day but at some point my skin reacted badly to it. Doctor said I had twice the luck: that it's only my skin reacting, and that I could go so long before my body decided it was enough for pretty much the rest of my life.


 No.23199

>>23195

What are your plans for brouzouf?

I've been thinking lately and I've considered dumpster diving as a means to make or conserve brouzouf.

Stores throw out good drek all the time. Over on reddit they have a dumpster diving community, and people find brand new electronics like Xboxes, PS3/4s, phones, etc. These can be either used or sold for brouzouf, and it's also quite common to find packaged, unopened food in the dumpsters. If you can find this food, you can reduce the brouzouf you spend on food,

I wish you luck in your journey chum.


 No.23219

This is such a fantastic thread. I've been wanting to go full nomad for a while myself.

What models of vans are spacious and good for modifying for a nomadic lifestyle? How do I protect against thieves? I feel nervous about leaving my desktop computer somewhere where it might be stolen.


 No.23226

>>23149

>There's no room for scummy thieves anywhere I live.

I agree, man. However, I don't live in a voluntary society full of peace and love. I live in a capitalist shit-hole that would grind me up without a second thought if I wasn't careful. I do, however, limit my thievery to corps. Individuals aren't cool in my book.

I posted in the last thread we had on this. I love all of it.

Parking and dealing with cops is a big issue. If you travel with a van or anything, for that matter, you'll deal with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltOtvkmILVc

I fucking love rainbow gatherings, but there can be some assholes like in that vid. Either way, cops are gonna crack down on ya. Period.

For gas brouzouf in a vehicular travel situation you can always jug. It's not ideal, but as long as we're talking about anarchism and dropping out of society, you can do this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMOvdBBAq90

https://squattheplanet.com/threads/gas-jugging-lines-tips.20034/

^The above forum is rife with good travelling/dirty kid knowledge and tips.

Panhandling. Flying a sign on a freeway onramp (a girl I was with once got 80 bucks in two hours down in Miami) or crack-spanging(talking to everyone you see on the street asking for brouzouf). It's tried and true, but it feels embarassing at first. That goes away after you get handed your first Jackson and by your first Benjamin you're constantly on the lookout for the next spot to fly a flag.

Of course, busking! For those of you with musical talent you can set up on a busy street and get to playing your guitar or whatever it is you play. The more enthusiasm, passion, and originality the more dollars in your hat.

It may seem scary to trust your possessions to chance, but just don't trust the wrong people. You can feel it when they're the wrong people.


 No.23227

>>23226

Forgot to add, dumpstering is always a good way to go. I was on an island in Florida where everyone fed themselves through the local supermarket dumpster. We ate well.


 No.23228

>>23227

One more thing, sorry for the rampant triple post.

Govt. assistance like food stamps is a possibility as well. If you're homeless, you usually just get them handed to you. If you're a hardcore anarchist you may object to this, but really it's so fucking schway to go shopping while homeless. You feel so fucking liberated. It's nice to know you have some real security in your gut for a week or two out of the month. Hell, you can make it the whole month if you really want to, it's just most travelling folks blow through them in a week or less.


 No.23230

Found this on StP and it's really relevant to the thread.

https://squattheplanet.com/van-dwelling/


 No.23245

>>23059

>There is no brozouf in being a freelance programmer. Drop that shit.

No, actually there is a lot of brouzouf in it. It depends on the country and on how good you are at self promotion.

That said the problem with OP is this:

>I want to learn to program

It's going to take a long time and dedication to go from "I don't know how to program" to "I'm a freelance programmer".


 No.23247

>living in a Van

>Not living in a boat

>Not becoming boatman

https://vimeo.com/94842405


 No.23272

>>23226

seconding the busking thing.

Some other stories I've heard of a man who hitchhiked all to the way to Antarctica by getting two pillows and holding a sign saying "Pillow Fights - $1 per minute".

I think painting can work out well for this, too, as long as you control fumes.


 No.23283

>>23055

Do you hate hygiene, comfortable living and personal safety? Great, go ahead and live in a car, you probably won't get robbed by nignogs or mudskins!


 No.23290

>>23219

>How do I protect against thieves?

Park in a relatively busy area. Wallmart lots always have people in them, and they accept cars just sitting there for long periods of time.

Set up a motion sensor in your car. Let it text you when there's excessive movement inside.

Set up an auto-wifi connecting thing, like they have now if your phone is stolen (findmyphone). Hook it up to an antenna for extra range. If the car itself happens to be stolen, you can find where it is.


 No.23292

>>23283

This is one way to put it, but your tiny little ideas fall short in so many ways…


 No.23373

>>23283

Do you not know of the existence of truck stops and rest areas, all which have showers available, or the concept of sponge baths, which involves just getting some water and a sponge, two easily accessible things?

Are you obsessed with the idea of "comfort"? Who said that comfortable is automatically a good thing? That's one of the main reasons people have mid-life crises. You get too comfortable and realize that you never went out of your comfort zone to challenge yourself and try new things and have new experiences.

Personal safety, well, I'm iffy on that, but I really don't see how it isn't safe. Most people just don't go around busting car windows out in the odd hopes that there's someone sleeping inside for them to murder.

>>23226

I've thought about busking. I've played guitar for 7 years, but I've never really been confident in my abilities and rarely ever play for other people. I've recently begun to play for other people and play with other people; a buddy of mine and I just started writing music together and had fun doing so.

Is busking a feasible option in most cities, or just the big cities? I've heavily thought about going to cities in college towns and setting up near bars around 1 or 2 am so that all the drunk folk will start rolling out and being really shitfaced, prone to making bad financial decisions and drop some brouzouf to me. I wouldn't even want much, just enough to provide gas and food. I want a simple lifestyle.


 No.23378

>>23199

>What are your plans for brouzouf?

I have enough brouzouf saved such that I won't worry about it for several years. I'll figure that out sometime by then.

I'm hoping to develop friends where I am going. I feel like friends could help a lot, for example just having a place to park and hook up electricity and take a warm shower sometimes would be excellent.

I'm not exactly the loner type. I'm vanning because I want to be independent on the cheap. I don't really want to 'work' for other people anymore; there are far too many other things I want to do.

I like learning, so by the time I need worry about brouzouf I'm confident I'll have enough skills and/or knowledge to figure out something easy enough. This is partly also where friends can help. With friends and connections you can consider selling things, finding introductions, sell your services to your friends, and so on.


 No.23382

>>23055

Pick up an old diesel RV.

you don't even need to pay for fuel.

Just get used cooking oil from fast food joints and filter it through a plastic bag.


 No.23386

>>23382

I thought the processing took a long time and required a semi-permanent place to let the oil sit.

Is it actually practical to drive long distances on cooking oil?


 No.23391

>>23373

>That's one of the main reasons people have mid-life crises.

One of many possible would be more precise. Midlife crisis comes from growing dissatisfaction with oneself life, whatever the reason.


 No.23394

>>23386

You'll need to store the oil in a separate tank for a while before it can be used but once you've gotten into the rhythm of filling the tank with the oil from the separate tank, then finding new oil to fill the separate tank with it will literally work like a well-oiled machine.

It's practically infallible.


 No.23423

>>23373

Yo, >>23226, here. I've only ever seen busking done in bigger cities. I have no musical talent myself, so I've never really tried it elsewhere. Honestly, your best bet is to do it in bigger cities. Most people won't give you brouzouf. Remember that. You have to plan on the drunks (as you mentioned) or the artists/bleeding hearts. I've seen people make way more brouzouf than they need on it to satisfy their street lifestyles. If you have a car and need to save up brouzouf for gas/repairs, you want to stay in big cities or risk being stranded. You don't have to be the best guitar player, you just have to be interesting/enthusiastic/original. One of those will suffice. Try it out a few times and remember; rejection is something to grow used to. Use it as fuel, not as a reason to give up.


 No.23456

>>23394

Thanks chummer. I'm imagining some mad-max kind of oil tank setup in a van.

Have you done this?


 No.23498

>>23423

Thanks for the advice!


 No.23501

>>23059

>Dump the excitement about it and think rationally.

>Not all people understand programming. Most of them get hyped, start to learn and quit soon.

Best advice in the thread. OP, you're getting ahead of yourself. I think you'll find that living indefinitely in an SUV is miserable after the gimmick wears off.


 No.23528

I see a lot of people saying van life is miserable, and to that, I just want to say that this kind of thing isn't for everyone.

You have to really know what you want.

On that note, I'm planning on building a stealth cargo van, and my budget is about 10k. I want to install solar panels, so I can have refrigeration and a way to power my computers, but I don't know much about how to wire it all together. Do you guys think I'm going to need a higher budget? How much brozouf do you think I'll need to start the ball rolling?


 No.23533

>>23528

That depends on how much a decent van costs in your area. Budget for each of the big items seperately and see what your total is.

Batteries can be expensive. What kind are you getting? Lithium? Lead-acid?

Solar panels aren't too expensive, $500 would be pretty reasonable.

How much will your bedding cost? What about flooring? How will you cook?

Will you need new computer equipment? Your 700W desktop workstation won't be suitable because you'll be tied to power outlets. Look into laptops and ARM minicomputers. Consider how you'll connect to the internet. Satt is a waste of brouzouf. A cellular modem makes you easy to track and isn't suitable for large downloads but allows you to check on your communications whenever you want. Wifi is the best (and cheapest) option whenever available, but in order to get a good signal from your van you'll need a high-gain antenna (possibly directional) which can reduce your stealth. You might want to use a VPN or something so that your traffic won't be readable by the wifi network.

Wiring isn't that hard, just read up about it before you do anything stupid.


 No.23535

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I've dreamed of doing something of this sort for the longest time. Getting pretty close to making it seem pretty feasible, now. My plan is as follows:

>Currently writing freelance in multiple magazines, pulling decent brouzouf for my needs - keep doing that

>Able to draw very well, previously sustained myself by drawing portraits on the street - all I need is a pen and some paper.

>Get a decent RV, solar panels, long distance antennas and all that gear, fuel tanks

>Install a ton of security systems on the RV - Trackers, alarms & taser trapped locks, cameras with a feed to my phone, etc

>Carry a licensed gun on me at all times

>Live out in rural areas, maybe meet fellow traveling cyberpunks, live super cheap, maybe make some YouTube series etc. to teach other people how to successfully minimize your integration with the system

I also want to make sure I keep earning good brouzouf. I don't aim to be a hermit hippie blindly trusting fate or whatever. I'll keep working hard and working smart. You never know you might need that plan B brouzouf. Plus, what are you gonna do with all your free time?

>pic sorta related, I love small cyberpunk hideouts.


 No.23544


 No.23555

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>>23535

The protagonist in watch_dogs has a bunch of Hideouts all over chicago hidden inside shipping containers.


 No.23559

>>23555

Hate to tell you but you're never getting a shipping container to look like that.


 No.23560

If you had infinite brouzouf you could.

But you could get a container, a desk, stool, dresser, a folding bunk, chemical toilet and some simple lighting for realtively cheap, probably 3-4k.

But at the end of the day, who wants to live in a shipping container?


 No.23562

>>23560

Yeah. I did it for half a year and it was absolutely horrid. The weather makes it either too hot or too cold, and you'd need to soundproof it to ensure the rain doesn't murder your ears.


 No.23564

Did you try earplugs?


 No.23565

>>23564

You wouldnt want to wear earpligs everytime it rains. Soundproofing can make that optional.


 No.23631

>>23560

>who wants to live in a shipping container

I do, that sounds cool as fuck.

Check out these: https://www.youtube.com/user/kirstendirksen/search?query=shipping


 No.28358

>>23059

John Carmack us to do that, sort of, he would travel from hotel to hotel while he was making the game engine for quake 2, he also took up playing (and counting) cards while he was traveling. The only problem is that he is John Carmack, and you are you.


 No.28359

>>23195

You are out of your fucking mind, stop doing that and get a job.


 No.28360

>>23565

You get used to earplugs, and believe me, they work like a fucking miracle. You will literally be able to sleep anywhere you want.

http://www.amazon.com/LASER-LITE-Hearing-Protection-R3-Safety/dp/B00GD9C1RC/ref=sr_1_6?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1437346289&sr=1-6&keywords=laser+lite


 No.28372

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>>23064

Interesting enough my company allows wfh. I'm thinking about taking the opportunity of moving somewhere within the states, just not sure where. ideas????


 No.28377

>>28359

>Shut up and submit.

Yeah, okay, buddy.


 No.28379

>>23055

>Compilers confuse me.

If compilers confuse you, you're in the wrong field. You'll never understand how to program if you can't feed code through a compiler and get it to run.


 No.28385

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Well, I don't know why you want to be a nomad. But if anything, don't do it because you want to program. I consider going nomad myself because I really dislike how the world I live in continually makes decisions to compromise privacy at large.

Luckily I've done some homework and I know exactly where I would go, and what I would want to invest in.

For the vehicle, at minimal invest in a tiny solar panel that you can put in the top corners of your windsheild and hardwire it to the battery, it will help eliminate the dependency on power if you forget to turn your lights off.

If you want to spend a couple hundred, get something like an 18 watt panel that is roughly six to eight feet long, maybe two-ish feet wide. And strap it to the top of your vehicle. Next get a couple series of batteries and a couple more things. (forgot the name of devices) This way during the day you will store more than enough energy to power some equipment throughout the night, but mind you this is also space consuming.

Slave-er, I mean Labor Ready is dotted all over my country, and chances are there is some sort of temp agency out there that you can work in trade for quick brouzouf.

Hope this helps a little OP


 No.28395

>>23247

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 No.28504

>>28377

Submit to what? Society? Real life? Believe me, you will, you need society and other people, you also need a steady source of income, one that will make you disciplined. Your dream of becoming a nomad is unrealistic and impractical. If you want to travel go ahead and travel but don't make a commitment so that traveling will form part of your life and define who you are. Get a job and go on vacation once a year like everyone else.


 No.28524

>>28504

>Submit to what? Society? Real life?

>Get a job and go on vacation once a year like everyone else.

>go on vacation once a year like everyone else.

>like everyone else.

I know you think you're redpilled and back, but there really are all sorts of ways to go through life and not all of them are as pre-packaged as what you described.


 No.28533

>>28524

this is true. There are people *right now* who make brouzouf exclusively by working on free software.

However, I think the majority of people who live "nomadically" are doomed to become friendless, penniless, and homeless. The only people who do it are either junkies or English majors who want to write a book about it, and neither of those groups are people I'd want to be associated with. You'd be better off getting an apartment or something, and living there for like 9 months out of the year, and going on big long world-spanning adventures.

Just my two cents. Do what makes you happy.


 No.28536

>>23059

>There is no brozouf in being a freelance programmer

Which ass did you pull that shit from?

Best paid programmers I know are freelancers, they get to choose what and who they work with

Of course if you're not up to spec then better go back to the corporate bullshit


 No.28553

>>28533

>I think the majority of people who live "nomadically" are doomed to become friendless, penniless, and homeless.

>I think, therefore it is.


 No.28561

>>28553

It's my two cents. Take it or leave it.


 No.28565

>>28524

>there really are all sorts of ways to go through life and not all of them are as pre-packaged as what you described.

There are always outliers, but you are not one of them.


 No.31505

>>23097

Regarding power, solar panels are actually pretty noticeable. If you want to really be cyber about it, you can rig some induction coils inside your van and then just park under high voltage power lines for a few hours to fill you battery. Of course, solar panels are always a good backup in case transmission lines aren't available, but you should think about storing them in a compartment when they are not needed.


 No.31506

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I did this a few years ago! Hit the road with a French girl I met travelling, we worked on farms + wherever we could and I had some birthday brouzouf saved so we lasted a good 6-12 months living under a canopy in the back of my Ford 4x4… It was awesome fun (catching our own food got difficult while we drove across the desert)… Here's something I wrote along the way ~ http://www.lulu.com/shop/tom-vallance/hike-agony/ebook/product-20681900.html


 No.31507

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>>31506

Think anyone's gonna buy that?

Just give us a pdf or something, man.

>>28565

lol, you don't know me m8


 No.31516

>>31507

sure free things are great, supporting an artist is a good feeling also…


 No.31517

>>31507

you want the free version visit v i r t u a l m e c h d o t i n f o


 No.31570

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>>31516

I support artists that I appreciate. I'm not going to give brouzouf to some random schmuck.

Prove that your content is worth my precious NEETbux, and I'll buy from you. Until then, fuck off.


 No.31587

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>>31570

i don't need your sale! in the time we've been talking i could have shipped 1000 units half way round the globe! aforementioned is some poetry, like it or not… drek make up your own mind!


 No.35842

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Has anyone used one of these or something like it in a city? These are only usually good for rock climbers needing to spend nights on the rockface but cities have lots of infrastructure that you could attach to (bridges, industrial installations/silos). You would want to attach high up on a well grounded structure and not make yourself visually obvious…which is tough with the colors these things get made in.

A good climb would be required for placement and safety.

Also, i mentioned this before but does anyone have experience collecting power from transmission lines using induction coils? It works and I understand it in principle but am curious regarding how individuals have put this to use.


 No.35848

>>35842

>collecting power from transmission lines using induction coils

Mythbusters did it, it works but a huge amount of coils gets you a pitiful trickle of electricity, definitely not worth the cost.


 No.35853

>>35842

Instead you could tap power from industrial lighting. StealThisWiki has some information on how to do that.

You might want to build an alarm system that will notify you if your hide is disturbed so that you know not to return. Sometimes people can be unreasonably harsh on those living between the cracks of the city, especially if you're seen as leeching off the property owner.

I'm not sure where you could set up something like that without it being seen. Maybe in between two billboards? There would be workers changing the billboards every few months.


 No.35876

>>35842

>which is tough with the colors these things get made in

On the contrary, chummer. Get one that's bright orange. Attach a generic warning sign to it, just something that says "caution", and tack on some industrial tape to the bottom edge. Urbo-industrial camouflage. It's the shape I'd be more worried about, too recognizable as a tent. But even then, the goal is to make people not look too closely.


 No.35892

>>31517

I hope you get brutally raped and murdered.


 No.35899

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Family just bought one of these, shits crazy

Its got a stove, microwave, toilet, SHOWER.. cost 70k ameribux used, though.


 No.35900

>>23055

My mom recently got obsessed with the notion of a "tiny house" and radical downsizing, which I support of course.

It's doable. But you'll need around 60k in liquidity to get yourself started. Also maybe consider other forms of off grid living. Shipping containers, earthships, radical communities like arcosanti etc. GL


 No.35973

>>23101

out of curiousity… how would a programmer steal from yuppies and faceless corporations?


 No.35976

>>35899

It's pretty expensive. I mean, in Australia there's some houses that easily go for 150k. Granted it's a shitty small house but I'd rather save the extra 80k and buy a shitty house.


 No.36016

>>35848

I didn't get if from mythbusters. I know a guy who, until recently, has been programming for large banks since the early. He knew some guys who were electrical engineers when he started working and claims that one of said guys used to charge his van battery + some extras for his mobile home by parking under high voltage power lines.

For reasons I am inclined to believe said source.

Also, what was the strength of the field that the mythbusters were using to transfer charge to the coils?


 No.36041

>>36016

It was a huge coil of wire parked under an actual high-voltage powerline, about as close to realistic situation as you can get.




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