/cyber/ - Cyberpunk & Science Fiction

>dubstep

no

>/cyber/ dubstep?

>Must be some pretty unique stuff, I'm intrigued

>skrillex and what seems to be the most generic dubstep track ever made

7/10

>>29706

I like it.

>>29712

Suggest something better?

>>29714

Why all this rejection to dubstep?

Is this some internal fight between England and USA (dubstep is from London)?

I think dubstep have a unique goal: be hard and euphoric as fuck. And he actually _can_ do it. It's not the most technical work (if I want it I would listen to Eric Satie or Chopin, not eletronic), but I like it.

Also, industrial is interesting but not better than dubstep in technique. It's just a low-frequency bass at +3dB in ~140 bpm.

My knowledge of music is limited, but I think Skrillex have a heavy influence of Daft Punk and Danger, and I like it a lot (specially as a tool, when I'm with drowsiness).

The cyberpunk community need to change some time… just Perturbator is boring.

>>29716

>The cyberpunk community need to change some time… just Perturbator is boring.

You are one of those fags who are only into the cyperpunk aesthetic. What's interesting about cypberpunk is what used to be a genre of science fiction has become our reality, from the technology to the politics to the economics.

>Why all this rejection to dubstep?

>Is this some internal fight between England and USA (dubstep is from London)?

If you really care about this you should go somewhere else.

>>29717

>are only into the cyperpunk aesthetic

No, cyberpunk born in literature. And, I don't think you are already in a cyberpunk Philip K. Dick book. You are dreaming.

>If you really care about this you should go somewhere else.

I care because dubstep is cyberpunk, and you guys just say "duurrr shit". I want to know _why_ you think it's shit… or are you all 12yo here?

>not /cyber/

Listen to this and say again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxMFoGkoFq0

>>29720

it's really stupid. the pop music of electronic music. it's only interesting when you hear it for the first time ever.

>>29722

>pop music of electronic music

>everything in mainstream is shit! Be underground!!11!!!1

See, that's what I'm saying. What is your argument here dude? You guys just say "durr, pop shit", nothing more. Do a proper critic man.

>>29714

Thanks for that recommendation , User. I really fucking like this shit.

>>29701

I thought le normie beeps died out in 2011 after skrillex ran out of buttons to boop?

Fuck off with this shit please.

>>29701

Dubstep is pretty cyber.

Bassnectar is the shit.

>>29719

A lot of the people on here migrated from halfchan /g/ and are ridiculously stupid. Ignore them.

The only dubstep I've heard so far that sounds cyber enough to me.

I've been as resistant to Dubstep as I have been towards bullet-hell shooters. As a genre, Dubstep probably has the least amount of quality content and is probably the only genre that I'd classify in grumpy old man terms as "noise"

There are some quality Dubstep artists, but they're very hard to come by

Yes dubstep can be /cyber/ and some of the songs out there are basically 100% of the whole cyberpunk scene; made for it. If an EDM song has that grimy, heavy and techy feel to it I consider it /cyber/.

examples

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jc5ri8K7Kks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDSoBgIQpVU

I don't listen to dubstep myself (not for a long time chummers) but I completely understand the cyber aspect of it. Hopefully this board isn't full of weirdos who only listen to Serial Experiments Lain OST etc and call it cyber because of the context.

>>29748

Same anon here, I thought I'd mention that techstep and neurofunk as whole genres are 5/5 cyber in my opinion. You can just hear them being played at shady nightclubs in the post-singularity megacities.

>>29701

I'll admit it - for a long time, dubstep was a guilty pleasure of mine. I got the schway vibes from it. But I fucking hate virtually everyone that likes it. The entire fanbase is obscenely cancerous.

>>29748

>SEL OST

but the cyberia theme is 10/10, and there's some great stuff in bootleg lain

>is dubstep cyber?

No.

>>29751

>but the cyberia theme is 10/10

Granted, but surely you know the people I'm really talking about. The god awful SEL circlejerk weebs who think they're cyber because they have Lain as their waifu and. They kill everything they touch.

>inb4 lainchan is so cool therefore SEL must be really cool too

nothing against you if personally but I know a lot of folk who rant on and on about SEL and think they're hyper-cyber (schway term, don't you think?) and trash everything else expect SEL weeb circlejerk.

>>29743

Yeah arguing about whether a genre of music is cyberpunk or not is real top quality discussion.

>>29747

10/10 song.

Made me youtube-dl all his playlists.

>>29753

But I don't go to lainchan, it's full of filthy freetards.

>>29748

mah nigr

>>29701

well, imho dnb/dubstep/other genres when done with proper sound design, are as cyber as music gets; sadly not many know much about it besides perhaps the most generic entry-level stuff.

dubstep is just 140 bpm with the snare on every 3rd beat, there arent really any rules besides that; so there are countless worlds to make.

link related, prbbly wont like it but might change your view a bit about what "dubstep" is

>>29762

(meant to link the post about techstep/neurofunk)

>>29762

This is chill. I'd call it /cyber/

I mean, what is cyberpunk if not electronic music pumped out by individuals with a love for it?

>>29758

/cyber/'s been dead since it started.

There's some good threads here, but there's way too many nasty people on this board when it's population is so small.

>>29731

Anytime, chummer

>>29767

Halfchan is to blame; that and Summer.

>>29744

Amazing. Thanks.

dubstep and trap aren't cyberpunk in the sense that they usually don't have cyberpunk themes. they have normie themes. HOWEVER, dubstep and trap are fitting for a cyberpunk world. they are basically what normies in the cyberpunk future would listen to.

>>29800

Well put and checked

David Bowie is the most /СУВЕR/-as-FUCK musician of all times. And all spaces.

/thread

>>29800

Phuture Doom is pretty cyberpunk.

>>29909

I like the beginning.

And then it was bullshit.`

>>29701

>thinking shitstep is cyberpunk

I'm not sure you really know what cyberpunk is, OP.

>>29713

>>29701

>I like it and therefore it is cyberpunk

Hi, I like to make assumptions and don't care if they're true or not :^)

But really, if you want something that actually is technically cyberpunk… Vocaloid. I don't listen to it, but it fits.

Personally, I don't even like cyberpunk-fitting music. I like hip-hop, jazz, and whatever the hell Mouse on the Keys is.

One would think that the music taste of people in a cyberpunk world is as diverse as in a non-cyberpunk world.

As for what leads one's mind to a cyberpunk mood (whatever /that/ is), it's not like that association necessarily is transferrable to anyone else.

Then remains the presence of cyberpunk themes in the lyrics if any, and presentation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcNXq5DUZnk

not dubstep but definitely /cyber/

>>30626

not to derail but possibly the best /cyber/ anime ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqkJLwVc8eI

intro song is amazing

>>30480

i think that's avaunt gard jazz

>>30507

Gonna need sauce.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVuZ-a9kjKc

INCREDIBLY

>>29750

Neurofunk is my workout/training music, is fast paced and a little trance inducing

Not too fond of Dubstep (although there are some songs I like). My cpu of tea revolves more around trance/vocal trance.

Love listening to it at night. Makes me feel like I'm actually in a city.

The amount of people in this thread stating "dubstep is shit" as if they're capable of making an objective judgment of what good or bad music is is hilarious.

Music is mostly subjective. You cannot say that dubstep is objectively shit, you fucktards. Saying "it all sounds the same to me" only shows your inexperience in a genre. Maybe you're a metalhead - think of how often you hear that about metal. I used to think that way about rap, too. Once you start exposing yourself to a genre more, you'll find it much easier to see how the songs don't all sound the same.

It's the same with race, actually. To Westerners, Asian people often all look alike. Spend some time in an Asian country and that effect will definitely fade.

Dubstep - I'd say especially brostep - requires a fair amount of knowledge of sound design and audio production to actually pull off and become famous for.

Rant over, here's some shit to blow your mind, OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqnHVAEfhSs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ13nr6urIo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT4yWlSttzQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXOo88ps6zo

These are just some songs I really dig.

>>30756

I challenge any one of you to tell me WHY dubstep is OBJECTIVELY shit.

I don't think you can, because it's next to impossible to identify what makes music objectively shit.

I like to think that big room house (Martin Garrix - Animals) is objectively shit because, to me, it just seems like the most utterly uncreative and empty electronic music in existence. But if that were true, surely anyone could make it and become famous for it?

>>30757

there are ways to mathematically analyze music which show why modern pop music is even shittier than old pop music (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/science-proves-pop-music-has-actually-gotten-worse-8173368/?no-ist) but i didn't think anyone would ask for hard evidence based on the simple fact that everyone who is not objectively retarded intuitively agrees that dubstep is shit based on his feelings (it might take a few days for the initial wow effect to wear off but not more).

just look at the people who listen to dubstep regularly, they are the worst kind of cancer.

look at the websites where people talk about it.

do you really have no pattern recognition skills whatsoever? then i suppose you'll have to listen to shit music for the next decade until someone mathematically analyzes it.

>>30758

Which is all good and fun, until you remember just how many rules and specific patterns there are in classical music. It's likely just as feasible to analyze and model it mathematically.

Of course, one could just go one step further and analyze the few wavelengths the human ear can perceive, the patterns they form in various types of music, and then model just about anything about sounds inasmuch as it concerns human music.

>dubstep

>/cyber/

kek

← /cyber/

>>30758

What are you saying about dubstep, specifically? That it is repetitive and predictable?

>>29701

OK lets establish this shit

SKRILLEX, ZOMBOY TYPE SHIT ISN'T DUBSTEP

I've heard it called "brostep" and shit but it's not dubstep, which is some underground UK cross between dub and 2step garage.

I can Imagine some dubstep songs would be.

>>30757

this

Anyway I could see something like vid related being fairly /cyber/

>>30758

>Why x is objctively shit

>>30972

>this

Not possible, because it's a fucking opion you retarded teenage shazbots.

You can't objectively prove an opion. Unless of course, you'd like to objectively prove it isn't shit? I'm waiting.

There seems to be a warped view of what dubstep is online.

A lot of the deeper, ambient and intelligent works are very futurist. Not the pseudo metal crap you may refer to.

Some albums I like with a dubstep sound and influence.

Kryptic Minds - One of Us

Benga - Diary of an Afro Warrior

Zero One Breaker - Echelon Frequency

Anything by Synkro and early Skream is good too

>>30994

"Dubstep is shit" is not an opinion, it's an objective statement about the musical quality of dubstep.

>>30972

'Dubstep' does not describe what it originally did anymore. Most of the time it refers to brostep.

Brostep is a subgenre of dubstep. The labels we give to genres aren't always accurate. Just accept it, man.

>>29720

>drums sound like generic FL studio beatz

>the high pitched motif is alright, would be better with some breakcore beats

>"drop" is annoying as shit

>very little variation, and not in a good way

I suppose it'd be alright in a club or something, but there's no real reason for me to listen to that more than once.

Burial's the only thing I listen to which could be called "dubstep".

>>29759

>wth happened to /cyber/?

i have no idea. trolls?

>>30771

that's pretty relaxed, nice.

>>30756

this is awful, oh my god.

this is exactly what we were talking about when we said dubstep is shit beyond belief.

lurk moar or go back to reddit cancerfag.

>>30972 see >>30758

also the song you linked is garbage but not cancer.

>>30767

what are you talking about?

>>29748

this is some acceptable music but i don't think anyone except you calls it dubstep. and it gets worse over time until it starts repeating again and it's obvious that it was made by a teenager at home with some free trial version for windows.

i guess if i was at some sort of cyberpunk themed party i wouldn't mind it and with some refinements and more skill it could be okay.

>>29742

>many illegal activities are cyber by virtue of being illegal

>proper raves are illegal

>bassnectar threw proper raves back in the 90s

>bassnectar is the most /cyber/ musician

Q.E.D.

>>30757

You should listen to dick room house.

https://soundcloud.com/bong-iguana/making-big-room-out-of-the

>>30758

This guy has no idea what he's talking about

>>30631

PHUTURE DOOM

>>29800

>they are basically what normies in the cyberpunk future would listen to.

What schway-guys listen in the future?

>>29800

I can see that with Trap and perhaps some US dub/brostep but UK dubstep is underground as fuck.

>>31062

>What schway-guys listen in the future?

Hackstep and schwaydub.

>>29716

>Is this some internal fight between England and USA (dubstep is from London)?

that…that was just fucking stupid

i hope your building gets raided you filthy fucking twip

I love dubstep, it's all i have on my ipod(with some electro/house), but there is no fucking way dubstep is /cyber/

>>29701

NO it is not…

>Is dubstep cyber

Well, it depends. If you defend that cyberpunk is about that retro feel from the 80s then the answer is "no" and you would be completely right; rock and synthwave were pretty popular in the 80s and those genres would be what you could find in Cyberpunk: the Movie: the OST.

That said, the board is full of people who genuinely believe cyberpunk is now/our future extrapolating from now, and these exact same people STILL think dubstep isn't cyberpunk under that definition. How come it isn't? It's popular today, it's made completely with digital tools, it sounds like a dial-up modem connecting to the network, it's fast and exciting, it sounds like something a synthcoke addict would love listening to… what's NOT cyberpunk about it? That you don't like it?

Now, don't get me wrong, brostep is often too "light" or not motivating enough to be used in an action scene of any neocyberpunk OST, specially Skrillex, which often feels shallow and even downright stupid with his high pitched voices. I can't see Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites ever working in any cyberpunk setting (even with teh fahnny memes xD removed) because it feels shallow and not aggressive enough; but on the other hand Bangarang might work with some heavy modifications (as ridiculous as it sounds, Triple-Q's "Gorill la Skrill" Kill la Kill-Skrillex mishmash has the right idea, but the wrong instruments).

Dubstep works best for cyberpunk when you mix it with other genres (drumstep seems to do the trick pretty well) that can give it the necessary aggressiveness to even be considered action music, but its fast BPM and emphasis on bassline make it perfect for when bullets start to fly.

Does this mean dubstep is the only genre of cyberpunk? No, what the fuck. It wouldn't even be what would play most of the time, just in some low-life clubs and when shit hits the fan. >>29744 would be perfect for other situations (even the aforementioned situations, too), since it's fairly subtle but still keeps that cyber feel.

It's pretty mainstream, but I could see embed related working inside a cyberpunk setting, and maybe even EDM Death Machine (not exactly dubstep, but eh) or Rage Valley, from the same artists.

>>34329

The first thing most people think of when they hear "dubstep" is Skrillix, Deadmouse, and Tiesto. They're more mainstream than most artists. The first generally caters to scene kids (not to menrion that nails-on-a-chalkboard sample he really likes to use, you know the one), the latter two use progressions that are too slow for me.

I've been avoiding this thread for a long fucking time, but I just watched that fucking video. He is using fucking beats. That and the poser japanese fans should say all you need to know about this artist.

I do kind of get the objective with this kind of music, but it's just so badly done. Vid related is like an ascended version of complextro, despite having nothing to do with it, learn from the minimalism and the clean mix.

this is the most cyberpunk song in the wolrd, correct me if i'm wrong

>>34421

Nah. Perturbator himself has more cyberpunk songs, such as Welcome to Night Nocturne City.

>>34421

maybe for the white kiddos