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 No.32279

https://fix10.isleaked.com/

Is this enough to make it tolerable? I know it's closed source software made after 2000 which instantly makes me suspicious but still if I can isolate it enough I'd like to run Windoze software, but I'm not willing to sacrifice security for entertainment.

What can you do to stop M$ traffic? I read that it bypasses the hosts file and you'd need a separate firewall. I can do that but is there an easier way?

 No.32280

>>32279

I recall hearing about an experimental open-source distro that runs Windows binaries. Can't remember the name off the top of my head.


 No.32285

>>32279

Guys I have a genuine question as a windows 10 user: is it just me or do you actually feel legitimately worried when you try to switch from windows to linux? Like, I have a massive anxiety fit. Is it new change that I don't like? Subconscious conditioning from people saying my shit wont work well on windows? Why do I feel terrified of installing linux on my desktop but I can install it on my laptop and shit and be fine?


 No.32294

>>32285

You're probably worried that you'll fuck up. Cool your ports, it happens. Just back up your files–the important ones, at least–and take it one step at a time.


 No.32296

Don't bother. They'll probably just patch it again to do the same old shit in a future update. Just like they did with 7 & 8. Most Windoze software you could probably get away with running in a VM.

>>32285

As far as drivers go, shit usually works fine except for that one weird piece of Chinese no-name gear you have which required a buggy outdated program anyway. I'd say that at this point driver support for older devices is probably better than windows.

Also just get Mint if you want to be lazy or have shit just werk. It's not bad.


 No.32300

>>32285

Jesus, stick in $DISTRO LiveCD and install a dual boot. It's so easy my grandmother has literally done this with Mint. You move a damn slider to set how much space for the two OSs to take, and click next a few times.

And with a LiveCD, you can test the damn OS out before you even install it – the whole OS will run off a flash drive or DVD without even touching your system. Your paranoia is beyond retarding.


 No.32302

>>32285

For me learning all the new hotkeys was my biggest point of cntention, that and installing thourgh a package manager, and useing homepaths instead of browsing to the binary's location and executing directly.

You get used to it though, I now use vim keybindings for everything, and think it's much faster than haveing to drag a mouse around.

sage for offtopic


 No.32317

if you dont need dotnet4.5 just run windows xp black edition in a vm


 No.32330

Block traffic on your router and follow Windows privacy guides - there are at least 50 options which you probably want to disable.


 No.32382

>>32330

I wouldn't trust any of these guides. Microsoft can, at any given moment, update Windows to use new domains, IP and even ports.

They have already done something similar with Windows 7 and 8 so it shouldn't be weird to think it could happen again.

The definitive solution is to just use another OS, preferably libre unless you want to be in the same situation.


 No.32399

no


 No.32460

>>32296

What's your advice for running itunes on mint? I'm thinking of switching, but I still kinda like being able to smoothly transfer music and apps to my iphone. Everyone tells me itunes gets shwasty on linux.


 No.32462

>>32285

I'm an experienced Linux user. My computer used to run Ubuntu a while back, but I had to install windows 7 since I couldn't install all the programs necessary to complete my school work. I've jumped around from Gentoo, Fedora, Debian, Elementary. So it's not that I'm worried about fucking up, I know what I'm doing. I suppose it is true. We do hate change.

That being said, I'm making the jump to dualbooting first. I'm just gonna use ubuntu again since it's more likely my shit will run.


 No.32463

>>32460

http://www.ossdoc.com/2013/01/how-to-install-itune-on-linux-mint-and.html

>tl dr The Iphone users who use the open source operating system now can install and use the Playon Linux to install it on their desktop or laptops.

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ4dWJbF4jk

>Use wine


 No.32468

>>32462

Update: tried installing it and somehow ubuntu got corrupted. Couldn't read its own drive and couldn't read my other hard drive. Couldn't use most commands and then ubuntu crapped itself before going into rescue mode with grub. Luckily it had an option to reinstate windows 10 as my OS. Which is how I'm typing now.

>tl;dr, ubuntu shit itself and I'm a retard stuck on windows


 No.32486

>>32468

different anon here: to someone who used ubuntu before this sounds really hard to believe but with ubuntu becoming more and more like windows it does make sense. i just didn't expect it to be that bad already.

try kubuntu instead, they seem to be way more professional. ubuntu devs probably spend too much time finding new ways to add hard to find spyware.

anyway, what was the error message you got?


 No.32487

>>32486

oh and i forgot to say:

you don't have to restore the windows bootloader as default, you should be able to select it from the grub menu too.


 No.32492

>>32486

The error message I got, it had too many codes to remember off by heart, but basically boiled down to "error accessing disk, you need to mount the drives (ps I did try this). Try logging back into windows and shutting down rather than force restarting", but at that time grub wasn't there until I hit F1, which I updated grub and my option for windows loading appeared. Thanks for the kubuntu offer, didn't know there was a 'k' variant of the *buntus. I must be a special kind of unlucky to fuck up Linux.


 No.32494

>>32280

ReactOS. Development is going slow. Like, really slow.

Also, Linux is free if your time is worthless.


 No.32504

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>>32285

it's just you being retarded

i'm not even kidding, if you're over the age of 12 and still using winblows, you have brain damage


 No.32505

>>32494

only if you're subhuman scum with an iq below 120


 No.32637

>>32285

Same. I know why though. It's because I'm a fuckin pleb that's shit with computers which still means I'm better than most people . Loads of my shit would not work on linux and I've heard it's fairly unsafe unless you know what you're doing, which I don't.


 No.32639

You know the most secure OS is that you can trust with all your personal information?

It's called your fucking brain and it cost nothing cause you're born with it.

Stop fucking putting so much personal data on your computers. If you're concerned about being the product and being sold off to advertising companies that learn to manipulate you and make your self-esteem go down so you have to buy then stop using fucking Windows, watching TV, reading billboards, or talking on social media.

Jesus Christ I swear people are retarded with computers. Why the fuck is everyone concerned about privacy on fucking Windows.

THEY ARE A FUCKING CORPORATION, NOT YOUR FRIEND!


 No.32644

>>32504

>Wanting an OS to work is brain damage

Oh, and Linux ruined my perfectly good SSD. Ran fine on windows but suddenly when I install Kubuntu, drive gets caught on boot, bios wont recognize it. I give up on Linux, it had one fucking job.


 No.32663

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>>32644

I don't mean to burst your bubble but if the BIOS won't detect it–it's 100% hardware related.


 No.32677

>>32663

I literally bought it a month ago. And why only after using Linux?


 No.32700

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>>32677

Well okay, installing other OSes could fuck up your boot sector but it's quite rare. Anyway, I've installed tens of distros with zero knowledge and fucked up some too but never had it corrupt hardware…


 No.32743

>>32677

I recall thinking that openbsd broke a hard drive I had back in the 90s. It's easy to think this, but aside from some incredible bug that would likely have to be on the drive firmware that wouldn't happen. HD's fail in the first month pretty often, especially when it's a controller issue which would be consistent with no detection by BIOS. Definitely RMA that disk.


 No.32749

>>32285

>>32279

ONLY WAY IS SWITCH TO LINUX

YOU IDIOTS KEEP TRYING TO MODIFY W10 BUT IT DOESN'T WORK.

DEVUAN = DEBIAN WITH NO SYSTEMD


 No.32824

>Microsoft slips user-tracking tools into Windows 7, 8

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2978239/windows/microsoft-slips-user-tracking-tools-into-windows-7-8-amidst-windows-10-privacy-storm.html

This is your daily reminder to drop windows for good


 No.32839

>>32749

Reminder that the NSA has OS-independent spyware. Linux won't save you.


 No.32854

>>32839

This. If they really wanted to spy on you the NSA would have regardless of if you use Linux.


 No.32858

>>32743

There is no disk,

it's an SSD.


 No.32860

>>32644

That's a useless question. Hardware dies quickly, or slowly. You where unlucky in this case, it happens.


 No.32861

>>32839

Use Trisquel 100% free software, backdoor free and has no useless code in it.


 No.32875

>>32854

probably not.. a properly hardened OS won't divulge any secrets to the NSA unless they're willingto try and pull off a huge operation just to infiltrate your computer.


 No.32903

>>32279

> but I'm not willing to sacrifice security for entertainment.

The best solution for that is dual-boot: just use linux for everything and boot into windows for vidya and stuff you just can't do in linux, but don't work with any sensitive information in windows

No matter how many measures you use in windows you will always be more exposed


 No.33174

>>32903

Except that you're still running Microsoft code with full access to your system (encryption not withstanding).

A safer idea would be to use a VM for Windows and run said VM as a low-permission user.

Is this failproof? No. But it's somewhat safer.


 No.33199

>>32285

For me, in terms of both fuck-up insurance and peace of mind, the trick was to put the hard drive from my old laptop in my laptop's second hard drive bay and just install it on that. You don't need to touch the drive windows is on. I've installed like three different distros knowing nothing about linux and everything works great.


 No.33781

>>32824

well fuck. I'm too retarded to get linux too. I guess I should get a 2nd hard drive with Gentoo or some shit.


 No.33791

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>>33174

Wow, way to go on exaggeration. As if Windows 10 would redpill itself out of a virtual machine to infect your *nix environment and steal your data because muh advertisement profiles.


 No.33825

>>33791

>redpill itself out of a virtual machine

kek


 No.37285

>>32504

You are on /cyb/ using smug anime faces, saying pretentiously someone has brain damage for fitting in the status quo

Please cringe somewhere else


 No.37286

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 No.37287

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 No.37452

>>32505

>believing in subjective IQ scores


 No.37453

>>32875

You do realize how easy it is to backdoor into linux because everything is treated as a file, right?


 No.37457

>>37452

low iq pleb detected


 No.37458

>>37453

holy fuck, back to /r/cyberpunk with you, mangopleb




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