/cyber/ - Cyberpunk & Science Fiction

getting away from corps is like going on a diet, going 100% is not a good idea in the long run. A more healthy solution is to cut the things you don't need out and getting the things you do need from small businesses or farmers markets if possible, and so on. DIY is also great and you should definitely do and make as much stuff as reasonable yourself.

>>33071

How do I go about DIYing the above?

Clothes, tech, food, personal care, etc. I'm probably going to buy a 3D printer, if that helps.

>>33069

edgy

>>33071

this one is on something

>>33073

shitpost

>>33074

>3D printer

gay

>>33069

its funny that in this context, socially disconnected farm rednecks are probably the most disconnected thing there is.

>>33077

>>33076

you're all edgy shazbots

OP, learn to cook, start buying locally-made product instead of megacorp-made product. Get off Windows, use Linux, 3D print your own clothing; stop wearing anything that's 'branded' with a logo.

see: >>32995

>>33084

>implying I don't buy local stuff

>implying I won't get off winblows

>3D print your own clothing

LEL

>branded with a logo

I remove them errytiem

homemade soylent, OP?

>>33084

Cyberpunk has _never_ been synonymous with using Linux, that was developed in board culture. I hate how people think you can only live cyber if you use Linux, that is very pretentious.

>>33101

> 2015

> not using open source software

> letting micro$oft rule your life

>>33103

I bet you own a phone with android on it.

>>33105

nokia for life

>>33101

Using linux or *BSD is one of the easiest ways to fight "the system". It you want help setting it up, I'd be glad to help.

It can be pretty fun too.

But to answer OP's question, Dumpster diving, if you live in the country, grow as much of your own food as possible, if you live in the city, dumpster dive as much as possible (esp. if you live near a large/rich school or university). If you're into tech, you can pick up a computer that hits POST from goodwill for $40, install an OS, and run an I2P node, proxy, or whatever else you can.

One thing I've always struggled with was the power to keep a server going though, it's actually a dent into my paycheck each month, and I've tried most things to keep the server running without using too much power. Anyone have tips on power generation? (other than hurr durr solar panals; I don't own my house)

>>33109

what's the advantages/disadvantages between Linux and BSD?

Was considering maybe trying BASH or something.

>>33101

>that is very pretentious

>pretentious

I don't think you know what that word means, schway.

>>33125

BSD has the best security track record of any of the usable OS's, and Theo shelled out a bunch of brouzouf to some mathematicians to prove that the base system is secure. You'll still need applications on top of the base system though, and BSD development is SLOW AS ALL FUCK.

In contrast, linux systems are actually usable, and there are really popular distros like Ubuntu and Mint that work out of the box. It's security track record is worse, but still better than windows/osx (partly because code is well-written, partly because carders/malware creators don't waste their time with 2% home desktop market share)

BASH is a shell, a program that when you type "echo hello, world!" it knows to look in /usr/bin for the "echo" program, and to pass "hello, world!" as an argument. I think you want a distro. Currently on http://distrowatch.com/ the top 3 distros are: Mint, Debian, and Ubuntu

>>33151

LOL.

OpenBSD doesn't necessarily have teh best security track record. I'd look at the work done by the GRC people instead for an idea for where most of the improvements come from.

>>33152

Then name a usable distro with a better security track record.

>>33131

ignore him. he's been shitting up /cyber/ for about two days now, spamming all of his anti-Linux shit wherever he can

>>33063

As of right now tech is the easiest one. Build your own computer and put linux-libre or OpenBSD on it, don't use any services that aren't free as in freedom.

Food, try buying from farmer's markets. They have good food usually but you have to be at least a little dependent on corps for non-perishable and out-of-season foods.

personal products/clothes: no idea there m80.

>>33151

>carders/malware creators don't waste their time with 2% home desktop market share

They would waste time on the 60-70% server market share though.

bumping

>>33259

>>33160

You can make tons of winter clothes in crochet, but it's time-consuming.

>>33276

Building off of the clothing suggestions: if you want to go the extra mile, try turning some of your clothing into stealthware. Line big items like jackets with mylar to deter thermal imagers, and install an IR emitter (easily bought online for $10-$30) in a hat or hairpin to confuse security cameras.

For other suggestions: switch to bitcoin wallets, use public transportation as little as possible, live in a rural area, buy at local stores whenever possible for food clothes etc.

>>33276

>> I'm pretty positive Adblock Edge is kill, but I'm not sure of another alternative yet. I think users are using Ublock or something now? I'm not sure.

The alternative is Adblock Latitude which is developed by the Pale Moon project.

https://addons.palemoon.org/extensions/privacy-and-security/adblock-latitude/

>>33413

Cool, I seem to already have that installed. Thanks for the heads up.

>>33069

I wish I could live naked in the woods, but I'd get arrested for some bullshit like indecent exposure or trespassing.

>>33074

Its pretty much impossible to be completely independent from corps while wanting all of those.

A corp made the 3D printer, you won't be growing the plastics it needs anytime soon (although you might steal them from certain locations).

You'd need to buy/steal crops then work on it for a year or more then either learn how to do textiles manually or once again buy from corps either machinery or finished clothes. Or you could 3D print your "clothes", but you'll end up closer to a stormtrooper than shirt & jeans.

You don't need corps for personal care, hygiene and exercise as long as you have food and water access covered.

For food its pretty much the same problem as getting clothes.

The thing is being cyber isn't just being a hippie in the woods free from corps, but instead actually taking advantage of them at every turn, essentially hiding from the watching eyes while becoming essentially parasites that they can't eliminate.

Users like this >>33103 are as bad as microsoft wageslaves.

>>33384

IR nonreflective clothing and insulated clothing for hiding from FLIR are useless if you are not deep in the woods hiding from attack helicopters. I'm not sure why you think they're necessary or important for daily life off the grid.

>>33276

>>33413

use ublock origin

adblock or any fork of it isn't as good

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/

ABE was discontinued in favor of it after all.

i'm not sure if pale moon has good defaults

GNU icecat or whatever would be recommended but theres like 1 developer and he let a security problem go unfixed for a while

just use firefox and turn off the terrible privacy disrespecting settings in about:config and in preferences

there are guides for this on the internet

>>33063

>tech

unless you're extremely rich and want to waste your fortune on building the industry infrastructure to make computers and other electronics, you pretty much have to buy stuff made by corporations.

to make clothes without a corporation you need like a cotton farm, a sewing machine, etc. or hunt something and skin it for its fur.

food is obviously possible to get without corporations, just have to make a garden from some wild crap you found which will be a pain in the ass, or hunt animals

>>33107

How can you stand it? I used a nokia for like two weeks before I cracked the shits.

>>37101

>hunt

And if you live in certain countries (Australia) it's illegal to hunt certain animals at certain times of the year. The only fair game animal all year around are ducks I think.

>>37112

aren't some sort of toads and european foxes an invasive species in australia?

>>37117

He's right, 3d printing isn't that useful. Check the video for a tutorial on how to build a 3d printer.

>>33105

>owning a personal tracking device

>Anno Domini 1984+31

>>33063

A good way to go about this without having to make your own shit is buying stuff on second hand shops.

If you buy second hand clothes you are not giving any brouzouf to the actual brand. But you should still not wear any visible logos because then you're helping them with publicity anyways.

In terms of tech, buy whatever cheap stuff you can find that is compatible with GNU/Linux or BSD and install that shit.

These days most electronic stuff is compromised in terms of security (like we recently learned from Lenovo) anyway, so I'd say buy cheap and use an open sourced OS with tor for web stuff.

This issue will be fixed when open source hardware gets more popular, but for now there is no practical solution imo.

I personally like OpenBSD; but if you are concerned about sticking it to corporations, you should use FSF approved distros, since BSD license allows corporations to use their code and charge us for it, so I guess you could say they are helping big corporations in some way.

In terms of food, you should think this thing through by yourself, since people may have different points of view on what's morally aceptable and what's not. For me, eating animals is not ethical and I can't support corporations who exploit animal suffering, but I respect people who feel different about this.

The biggest problem I see is that consuming and buying shit has become a big thing while socialising. So, the first steps on becoming less connected with corporations can be a lonely road. It may not seem like that when you first think about it, but people really bond with each other with things that brouzouf buys.

When you actually don't ever have new shiny fashionable clothes, a smartphone (or even a phone), don't spend brouzouf on partying on expensive places, don't have social media, etc. you won't fit that much within a lot of people. But there are a lot of people who won't care about that shit, so it's a matter of finding them.

>>33999

There are heaps of open source 3d printers out there. Sure, someone had to make some of the core electronics and motors, but they don't have to come from a mega corp, there are heaps of factories in China putting that shit out.

>>35901

LARPing

>>33276

op here

due to all of the linuxfags itt, I actually ended up making the switch from windows to arch

is /cyber/ proud of me yet? ;-;

>>33158

You do know that /cyber/'s main userbase is twelve year olds who discovered this place over summer right? So it's actually not surprising how many people here use windows.

>>37596

The fact that you only installed it because other people on the internet told you is as bad as you using apple because women want your text bubbles to be a certain colour.

>The thing is being cyber isn't just being a hippie in the woods free from corps, but instead actually taking advantage of them at every turn, essentially hiding from the watching eyes while becoming essentially parasites that they can't eliminate.

This.

Also, I'll be a shill here and say I have a Linux drive partition, but I find myself using it less and less because with a little bit of nuance, it's pretty damn easy to dodge the malware that targets Windows, as well as close any backdoors.

Plus software is 10x as available on Windows, and doesn't require any virtual machine or modification to run.

Of course, I'm talking about Windows 7 or XP here, 8 & 10 are hard backdoor'ed by the iNSAne & Microsoft and should be considered shit tier.

>>37604

>taking advice for the question he asked is bad

ok

>>37617

He asked about advice on clothes, food, (edit) and actual technology. Not computer systems.

Interesting topic… Anyone know how to avoid operational conditioning? I want to be able to ignore the ads, publicity and morals conditioning my behaviour in any way

You can't disconnect without giving up comforts and securities that I know you're not prepared to.

Instead, attempt to minimize connectivity. We talk about this a lot within the context of privacy and security, so instead I'll talk about it in terms of materialism.

Buy multi-use things. Don't get a milkshake maker when you can use your stick blender for that, plus a load of other things. Have two, MAYBE three quality pairs of shoes that will last you at least a decade. Only buy quality clothing that will last a long time. Learn to sew, and it will last even longer. Grow some herbs and basic low-maintenance vegetables like tomatoes. When you buy a tool, appliance, pretty much anything, do your research. Will it last? Is it good value for brouzouf? Can I get it fixed? Can I fix it myself? Can I use it for any other purposes?

>>37596

Arch is cool, but if you mess around with configs and shit too much it can break. Make sure you keep backups, and if it breaks or is too confusing, there's no shame in switching over to Debian or something easier. Better to have a system that works than one that doesn't, and you can move back to arch once you're more comfortable with the system.

>>37604

It's more like eating healthy because some people on a nutrition forum told you to.

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