No.33245
So chummers I noticed we have a PPH of 1, it kind of makes me sad. I thought there would be more people interested in cyber as a genre, but I guess not so much as I wished it would be. Any ideas on how we can get more people in here? I have none to few friends and they're not that interested in cyberpunk related things. I'm not saying let's become the next /v/ in being an active board, but it could be a bit more active than it is currently
No.33248
I myself feel a little conflicted. I love feeling cyberpunk and immersing into the atmosphere, but I don't feel the urge to talk about it online anymore. I felt like this board was the comfiest ever and now there's just… nothing. For me that is.
It's a shame, I do miss those rare good threads
No.33250
No.33254
Well I'm a newfag at least.
Tranny threads seem to get the job done. How desperate are you?
No.33255
>>33250
Seems like a starting point.
No.33257
>>33250
But we need more than just that, quality content is missing, maybe something on a weekly basis or something? Some theme of some sorts; e.g: Cryptography week, all about crypto and hashing, security etc.
No.33263
>>33257
Everytime someone makes a new thread they get flamed for making a new thread. "Oh my god this is only .5% similar to another thread, don't fucking make duplicates!" And then the board owner goes and locks it. I've kinda been done with cyber lately. Might permanently switch to lainchan.
No.33264
Posting NSA keywords?
Assassination Attack Domestic security Drill Exercise Cops Law enforcement Authorities Disaster assistance Disaster management DNDO (Domestic Nuclear Detection Office) National preparedness Mitigation Prevention Response Recovery Dirty bomb Domestic nuclear detection Emergency management Emergency response First responder Homeland security Maritime domain awareness (MDA) National preparedness initiative Militia Shooting Shots fired Evacuation Deaths Hostage Explosion (explosive) Police Disaster medical assistance team (DMAT) Organized crime Gangs National security State of emergency Security Breach Threat Standoff SWAT Screening Lockdown Bomb (squad or threat) Crash Looting Riot Emergency Landing Pipe bomb Incident Facility HAZMAT & Nuclear Hazmat Nuclear Chemical spill Suspicious package/device Toxic National laboratory Nuclear facility Nuclear threat Cloud Plume Radiation Radioactive Leak Biological infection (prevent) Chemical burn Biological Epidemic Hazardous material incident Industrial spill Infection Powder (white) Gas Spillover Anthrax Blister agent Chemical agent Exposure Burn Nerve agent Ricin Sarin North Korea Health Concern H1N1 Outbreak Contamination Exposure Virus Evacuation Bacteria Recall Ebola Food Poisoning Foot and Mouth (FMD) H5N1 Avian Flu Salmonella Small Pox Plague Human to human to Animal Influenza Center for Disease Control (CDC) Drug Administration (FDA) Public Health Toxic Agro Terror Tuberculosis (TB) agriculture Listeria Symptoms Mutation Resistant Antiviral Wave Pandemic Infection Water/airborne Sick Swine Pork Strain Quarantine H1N1 Vaccine
Fuck guys, /cyber/ used to be great ;-;
No.33265
Well, we should start up projects together, but it almost seems like the cyberpunk genre comes to a dead end at times. Like how are we supposed to add onto it with removing the basics of the schway?
Plus, nobody here is really connected except maybe those guys working on the /cyber/ game, but I guess what really we need is collaboration. It could just be from us starting a short story, making music, art, or a website.
I've liked the Lainzine and it'd be cool for us to do something similar, I don't know about a magazine though, maybe a podcast?
Also hit up http://8chancyber.wikia.com/ maybe? It looks like it could use some work.
Or doing a group doxxing? :^)
>>33250
I have my own /cyber/ themed website hosted by neocities and I would be willing to make a page for dumping infographs and tutorial in there? I want to add on to it, but I'm not sure what else. I don't want it to be just copying jinteki.industries, which was/is my inspiration btw ;-;.
moleratcorp.neocities.org
For now I'll dump a couple infographs.
>>33263
I haven't really noticed the flaming, but I've just noticed it's been slow, so my main go to for cyberpunk now is lainchan. I do check out /cyber/ though everyday.
>>33264
Yeah, but what we need to figure out is what was great about it before? What made it exciting? And why does it seem to be dying? What are we doing wrong?
No.33267
>>33248
I feel you there. Half of what I post about these days seems to be meta, and the rest is news. The problem is that there's so little lit that after a while, you've discussed everything there is to discuss. It hits me hard, because I've been here since the start, created /cyb/ before the exodus, was on /g/punk before that, and /r/cyberpunk before that.
I think we need to shift gears from celebration into creation, myself. In fact, I think I felt that a long time ago, and that's what pushed me to make Cyberlife, which you all now know as Jinteki Industries. I really need to stay on the ball with updating that shit, I'm just too goddamn lazy. Be it a tabletop game, vidya (I know there's already a project underway), music, infographs, a manifesto, a wiki, a better definition of "cyberpunk" for the modern world, guides to being Free as in GNU/Freedom, what have you. We need to do it.
The other aspect of it is that we need to wait. I saw the release of Deus Ex: Human Revolution result in a glut of people interested in cyberpunk, and some of them undoubtedly stuck around. Now we've got DX: Mankind Divided coming up, AND Cyberpunk 2077.
>>33265
Nice site. It always gives me warm fuzzy feelings when people take my ideas and improve on them.
No.33283
It isn't that people aren't interested, its just that our userbase (as 8chan) has gone down since school was back.
It's actually very slow on almost every board, but the site as a whole has a good amount of traffic.
No.33347
>>33283
It has nothing to do with muh summer maymay. The site as a whole has a pretty shitty userbase that has been poisoning every part of 8chan.
No.33349
/cyber/ lost all its PPH when the board wipe happened ;_;
No.33354
>>33267
>tabletop game
Count me up. There is a lack of decent cyberpunk tabletop RPG out there, either lacking in mechanics or settings.
No.33366
>>33267
/cyb/ on halfchan were good days.
btw the gentooman link is dead. There's a working magnet in one of the data dump threads.
No.33377
OP here again,
Seems pretty schway that this had replies as it did, 14 but still… I'm glad I am not the only User here who thinks that this board needs more content and users
No.33378
I feel conflicted.
On one hand, I enjoy the small community we have here and I don't want it to be TOO popular.
On the other, the board is indeed really slow and lacks content. I see a new thread only every other day.
CYBERPUNK IS NOT DEAD
No.33379
To be honest, I would rather have a slower pph with more considered posting than a faster pph with plebs and shit posting. In fact, today is the first day I've been on /cyb/ since the "is dubstep /cyber/" thread. Horrible.
No.33380
>>33379
That still leaves us with the content problem, shitposting and fucking newfags not included asking stupid questions like "is this cyberpunk" and starting such threads.
No.33389
I don't post much but enjoy the board.
Also been to a few /cyber/ movie nights which have been decent.
No.33402
>>33267
>I think we need to shift gears from celebration into creation, myself.
I support this sentiment.
I think that contributions are mired by a growing rift between people that consider "cyberpunk as a genre" versus "cyberpunk as a lifestyle."
The definition of cyberpunk, I think, should be more modernized simply because as a genre it's become more of a satire of itself than anything of cultural substance.
We are reaching the cusp of the future that the gods of decades past envisioned, but these parallels are more abstract than what could be said in these codices of old.
I think in order to have more stable contributions we have to, as a group, do the difficult act of coming to a consensus about what "cyberpunk" means. Once we can reconcile these differing opinions about "what it means to be cyberpunk" can we move from baseline topics of "is _ cyberpunk?" and more more towards quality contributions of art (literature, drawings, music, etc.) and reality (world affairs/news, the changing face of corporatism, resistance/complacency in our age, etc.).
Of course I could just be spewing bullshit at this point.
No.33407
>>33402
> …coming to a consensus about what "cyberpunk" means. Once we can reconcile…
I'm not so sure that this is possible to establish a homogenous identity, but I think that it shouldn't be necessary if people could accept that cyberpunk might mean more than one's own narrow definition, and that there can be room for tangential discussion as well.
A well based morning paper has different sections catering to all sides, I'd much rather see that, than /only/ cerebral dissertations on the relative merits of various form of government, or /just/ the evening paper gloss pages.
No.33408
>>33354
Here's a quick mechanics pitch:
Combat works not by turns, but by flow. You declare an action, such as running for cover or backflipping off a wall, knowing how long it will take to perform that action with your character's stats. You can, however, declare an interrupt at any time during combat flow - say, the yakuza member pulls out a gun while you're backflipping, so you pull out a gun. You need to see the yakuza member in order to be able to react, and you won't pull out your gun until you've had time to react, which might be 2/10ths of a second. So 200ms after the yakuza member begins to pull out his gun, you're pulling yours out while backflipping off the wall, and have to roll for the increased difficulty of the task. You just declare action after action and the GM resolves it all, with interrupts and changes of action coming in hard and fast.
>>33366
Good to know, thanks. Individual books are also at https://rms.sexy/books/
>>33402
>I think that contributions are mired by a growing rift between people that consider "cyberpunk as a genre" versus "cyberpunk as a lifestyle."
I see no reason it wouldn't be both, myself, but everyone is so fragmented on it.
No.33412
>>33407
Trying to be homogenous is not just bad it's actively hurting the community and all the shitposting about whats cyber and what's not is probably driving new users away.
Perhaps the board should have been /futurist/ or /Transhuman/ it might have been more inclusive
The problem with being Cyberpunk is that the whole concept is grounded in fiction that is over 2 decades old now. For the fiction threads that's fine because we can create fiction to view any world we want but for the real life threads that presents a problem.
What Cyber should be doing is trying to make all the elements that span off the original genre welcome. Things like Grinding or DIYBio aren't directly cyberpunk but are definitely also important to the real life aspect of the genre. Hell even plastic surgery stuff is the first steps in physically messing with the body for purposes other than just fixing a health issue.
Trying to discuss what's cyber and what isn't is useless, let people post anything(that's not shitposting) and if it's not gettin replies it will fall ofor quickly.
People are right there needs to be more projects as well though, the media side is probably covered though maybe we could have a few threads to gauge interest in things like a writing competition or animated movies etc. The real life side on the other hand definitely needs to pull together for something but what isn't quite clear.
>>33354
Between Cyberpunk, ShadowRun and Eclipse Phase I`m not sure what there is you can't just home brew on top of one of those systems
>>33408
>Those mechanics sound like a GMs worst nightmare once they number of combatants scales up to party level+ assailants. Imagine 4 to 5 people who probably have some setting equivalent of super speed all shouting interrupts and rolling for them while you try to figure out how double their number of NPCs plus any bystanders or plot critical noncombatants react and roll for them too.
No.33473
>>33412
>The problem with being Cyberpunk is that the whole concept is grounded in fiction that is over 2 decades old now.
Thats exactly the problem. Too much time passed since Neuromancer was written. Everything has changed since then. Cyberpunk has partly come to reality, but mostly without -punk part, as real world doesn't have superheroes opposing megacorps, technology and life in general is much more dull than it was predicted or fictionalized. Some parts came true - computers everywhere, huge corporations, shady government activity, conspiracies of any kind, big information flow, etc. What we need is to correct the course of cyberpunk or rather, just cyber to modern world and modern technologies and ideas, becoming more self-aware.
No.33476
The problem isn't how many people are on the board, but how often those that visit post. like most people have said, I think the only way to keep things interesting is through creating our own content. At this point there isn't anything left that hasn't been discussed to death
No.33508
>>33473
So, how do we 'fix' the course of cyberpunk to today's standard? Wouldn't that just make a new genre, which would defeat the purpose? I think the closest /cyber/ story related to modern times is probably Mr.Robot.
No.33510
>>33473
Thats well put. SO much of cyberpunk came true, we just don't realize it because its in a different form than it was portrayed in originally. Cyberpunk seems well defined as a genre, so theres no way it can be added to or updated without all this pushback about how it isn't traditional. Let cyberpunk be what it is and move on to what cyberpunk would be if it'd come about today.
No.33511
>>33476
>creating our own content.
I agree this is the solution, however most content creators would like to enjoy an audience. So, that lays a chicken and egg problem at our feet.
> Too much time passed since Neuromancer was written. Everything has changed since then. Cyberpunk has partly come to reality,
IMO, also a lack of imaginative writers that's the problem, and also the insanely high expectations people place on new cyberpunk works. Nothing can be like the experience of reading/writing the very first science fiction. If past readers had our standards of being blown away each new tale, rather than settling into exploring nuances of familiar tropes, then most of all fiction genres would have died.
A large problem is actually a dystopian force which is purposefully dumbing down the arts to limit and frustrate the intelligent, and that's pretty fucking cyberpunk in of itself. All the good scifi shows get canceled as soon as they pick up a following, despite ratings, and pointless love triangles are added to plots, along with diversity quotas, and etc. themes which social messaging consultants ensure are injected quite needlessly. Make no mistake there really is an effort to mind fuck the world into a complaint worker class and elite innovator class. Cyberpunk is a casualty of this, but self publishing is fighting back. I assure you the "conspiracy" is real:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfInio1sLE0 Common Core is merely the latest iteration of a decades long effort. Such subversion tactics are applied especially to arts and science, let alone across racial, sexual, and poverty lines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g
That's essentially why communities and universities are falling apart, bringing us closer to the despotic future of our beloved genre while denying it to us.
Of course, there are some who would divisively shout "GTFO /pol/"… and yet all cyberpunk works are deeply political in nature. One can not fight an enemy they refuse to see. That said, my stance is: It's better to work on the solution rather than focus on problems.
No.33516
>>33511
I just reread Neuromancer, and honestly I don't think it's aged much at all. The whole 80's aesthetic that it gets stuck with was purely a product of the artists at the time it came out. The book is effectively about a small group of human trash making a deal with a daemon and turning it into a god. That's pretty timeless in my opinion.
No.33523
>people try to participate with something related to cyberpunk
>baww not my cyberpunk
>elitists everywhere
>OC is criticized if it isn't perfect and since nothing is perfect ergo it always is
>science fiction posts are relatively ignored
Its like barely any users grasps what cyberpunk really is outside of the basic Gibson-esque stereotypes of a hacker against the corps.
>>33511
>>33412
>>33407
These users have the right attitude.
>>33379
>>33380
These don't.
No.33530
>>33523
Man, I found out what cyberpunk was and that I was into it. Not long after I discovered it, I found a reddit page for it. Up until then I'd never really been on reddit. Since frequenting their cyberpunk page, I've concluded that this place is WAY better. /r/cyberpunk is like a pussified version of this. It has more people posting more content, but it's all shazboty pictures of Japan in the rain, or some news article they read about a prosthetic limb. This place seems more willing to actually DO cyberpunk stuff, and pays more attention to the "punk" side of it. /r/cyberpunk is basically just a scifi subreddit with pictures of skylines thrown in all over the place.
This place might have fewer people and posts, but I like it much more.
No.33531
>>33516
cool. reading it now.
No.33533
>>33530
Indeed.
Cyberpunk is now, that's more important than aesthetics.
No.33550
>>33407
>>33412
Hey, thoughtful replies to my post.
I admit the idea is a little naive, and overly-idealistic.
>I'm not so sure that this is possible to establish a homogenous identity
It isn't. In fact I'm pretty certain it can be downright detrimental and altogether time expensive.
>but I think that it shouldn't be necessary if people could accept that cyberpunk might mean more than one's own narrow definition, and that there can be room for tangential discussion as well.
This is the core of the problem, though–some people aren't willing to accept different view points or ideas, and rather than doing a more simple "ignore the thread" attitude, they go out of their way to try argue about why such objects aren't related to their narrow views.
>What Cyber should be doing is trying to make all the elements that span off the original genre welcome.
This is what I would like to see. Even though there are things that people discuss that I don't really care about, I don't think it's my place to tell them "this isn't cyber enough" because it doesn't fit my view.
>Trying to discuss what's cyber and what isn't is useless, let people post anything(that's not shitposting) and if it's not gettin replies it will fall ofor quickly.
I would like to believe this answer is the best, and it could be, but for it to work we have to be consistent in at least some of our ideas (and work towards some positive reinforcement of it) or else every thread will eventually turn into, as >>33523 put it:
>people try to participate with something related to cyberpunk
>baww not my cyberpunk
>elitists everywhere
>OC is criticized if it isn't perfect and since nothing is perfect ergo it always is
>A well based morning paper has different sections catering to all sides, I'd much rather see that, than /only/ cerebral dissertations on the relative merits of various form of government, or /just/ the evening paper gloss pages.
I'm sorry if I didn't really explain myself properly, but I would prefer to see this "something for everyone" style thing that you describe.
I admit that I'm not the best at communicating my ideas; I would just want to see an increase in quality, no matter the niche it's going for.
Overall, I can't really explain myself too well… but I feel like that if this was a problem that would solve itself, it already would have.
No.33554
>>33508
>I think the closest /cyber/ story related to modern times is probably Mr.Robot.
Its close to modern times indeed, but totally lacking deeper aspects of the story telling, ideas/morals/satire/etc. Such aspects make any story great, just like any classic literature.
Good modern /cyber/ story should have layers, and a big number of them - layer of technical feasibility of our RL, layer of respect to old cyberpunk, layer of satire, layer of warnings and ideas, and layer of combining these into one with tropes and plot devices. Mr Robot is good in first layer, but others failed and are like thin layer of ice on a river, when you think its frozen and walk, you fall through.
As said above, it requires imaginative and creative writers and I wouldn't say that this would 'fix' cyberpunk as a genre, but adding depth, complexity and space to grow in would give cyberpunk another spiral in its development, which would be good.
No.33580
>>33408
>Combat works not by turns, but by flow. You declare an action, such as running for cover or backflipping off a wall, knowing how long it will take to perform that action with your character's stats. You can, however, declare an interrupt at any time during combat flow - say, the yakuza member pulls out a gun while you're backflipping, so you pull out a gun. You need to see the yakuza member in order to be able to react, and you won't pull out your gun until you've had time to react, which might be 2/10ths of a second. So 200ms after the yakuza member begins to pull out his gun, you're pulling yours out while backflipping off the wall, and have to roll for the increased difficulty of the task. You just declare action after action and the GM resolves it all, with interrupts and changes of action coming in hard and fast.
Sounds pretty cool in concept, but I have to agree with >>33412 . During play, it's better to keep numbers down and just perform simple streamlined operations like sorting/comparing numbers and adding/substracting.
The idea of interrupts may be good, though. If you have any number of actions you can do in a single turn, you could set up a "trap card" to be activated on a specific enemy action or simply whenever after your turn.
>>33412
>Between Cyberpunk, ShadowRun and Eclipse Phase I`m not sure what there is you can't just home brew on top of one of those systems
>Cyberpunk
Pretty good overall, but the rolls system is dated and some of the outdated gadgets are a mess (pocket computers are just extremely expensive calculators with a few kilobytes of memory for text files, for example). I guess you could make a total conversion of Cyberpunk 2020 by tacking more rules on top of it, but at that point you might as well rewrite it completely.
>Shadowrun
Yeah, I guess we could just write a custom setting for Shadowrun, but where is the fun in that?
>Eclipse Phase
Chombatta please.
No.33780
>>33245
We're up to 6 PPH now, interestingly enough.
No.34886
>>33780
I'm trying to post once in a while.
I had been absent to /cyber/ but yet everytime I came back nothing seemed to happen. This lack of a proper owner is hurting us.
No.34900
>>33402
There's never going to be a consensus on what "cyberpunk" is. Never seen it happening on any irc channel, any board or any forum.
Nut that seems to be the consensus here anyway :)
I come and go on forums and chans. Now I seem to lurking here instead of posting on CCF.
But I do see content creation as the only real way to keep the spirit and genre in general alive. It also applies to this chan. and the "is this cyberpunk?" threads ware one of the reasons why I left the last time.
No.34902
>>34886
And the current owner refuses to hand it over to anyone because "monoelain will be back this month, really guys"
No.35838
I'm just a generic scifi fan, I just started looking here. I think your focus on cyberpunk might be throwing people off. cyberpunk fans are normally only fans when there is something to fawn over. When there's nothing to discuss, they usually don't try to create something.
No.35840
>>33245
We had a lot more people posting, but then summer ended.
No.35841
I love this board, but I'm just a lurker, I don't have much to say or discuss about Cyberpunk.
I'm mostly a tabletop player and a gamer, and I think cyberpunk is pretty much dead in both of them, unless CD Project Red manages to finish its Cyberpunk game. Val-ha11a is also an interesting game, but it's just too small to make a difference.
I also loved Serial Experiments Lain and much of my views about information flow are related to that anime.
I've only wanted to say this: If Cyberpunk is dead, you can revive it by making OC. 4ch/tg/ had an interesting setting called "Snow Crash" that managed to re-ignite the interest of many about Cyberpunk. Maybe you should do the same.
No.35856
>>33245
I noticed its very slow too. our board is probably not high up enough on the boards list to get noticed as easily. this is a really cool board and should be about as active as /tech/
SOLUTION
we post.
more posts.
like this.
to.
make.
bump of.
board.
faster.
for more.
board going up.
No.35857
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No.35858
>>33263
on any board, on any forums ever
>post new thread
>"NYEUGHHH READ THE STICKY FUCKER! IT ANSWERS EVERY QUESTION YOU COULD EVER HAVE!"
>"NYUEHGGH THIS THREAD IS THE SAME AS THAT OLD THREAD STOP MAKIGN DUPLICAKES"
>"THREUAGHD DELUTED FUCK YOU"
>make post in old thread
>"NYUEUGHG!!GH!! REEEEEEEE!!!! STOP BUMPING OLD THREADS STOP NECROING STOP IT STOP IT FUCKER!!!!!"
No.35869
>>35856
Fuck it, I'll spend a few nights posting everything I got on this board. I'll do a few threads on random shit. It may help, but I don't know. Should I invite /tech/ over to here? Or /g/ form 4chan?
No.35874
i'm not from around these parts, but I gotta give it to you anons, I really like this board style
No.35920
>>35869
>/tech/
has some nice community but is very poisoned (more so than /cyber) by shills and some shitty community
>4chan
let the website fade into obscurity. do not make contact with quarantine.
No.35921
No.36056
bumping for slow board awareness.
why come we have no cybernetic coffee?
No.36061
>>35920
>very poisoned
no chummer, its chill and relaxed over there. What are you talking about? We like to take it easy and have fun once in a while. Is that it? Are you a no fun allowed type of shazbot?
No.36079
>>35874
I use it for all the boards. I feel like I might be missing some schway styles, but then, since most are the standard ones and these days I rarely visit the more niche baords (due to lack of pop)…
No.36092
The problem I have always found with this board is that most people are more interested in the aesthetics of cyberpunk than the actualities of either cyber or punk. Its close to the split described here >>33402
>>33412
>>33407
You two are just trying to make everyone happy, and that is never going to work. The thing fucking up this board are the aestheticfags who are just here for aesthetics and are into neither cyber nor punk.
If I want cyber, I go to /tech/ and if I want punk I go to /leftypol/ because those places actually understand the issues they're talking about from a technical and philosophical perspective.
To be cyber means to understand and use tech, and I can't remember the last time I saw a thread on here that was legitimately discussing the best way to crack "ice" or protect your gear from megacorps. I bet most of /cyber/ are still running windows and chatting on facebook for fucks sake. When was the last time you hacked anything /cyber/?
And punk means anarchism, there are no two ways about it. Punk is antiauthoritarian anticorporate "smash the system" self determinant DIY, nonconformist and about direct action. Those values are primarily anarchist, and while its possible to self identify with other politics while promoting those concepts, you will still be espousing anarchist tenets. /cyber/ is not anarchist in the slightest, when was the last time you discussed Bakunin /cyber/? The music threads are filled with 80s retro synthwave without lyrics, there isn't a single punk rock band to be found and not one song which is anticorporate or antiestablishment.
Honestly /cyber/ I come on here some days and the whole place is filled with retarded kids posting selfies and asking to be rated on how cyber they look. When I point out what terrible opsec that is I get told to stop cramping someone else's idea of what cyber is. Being open to everyone's idea of what cyberpunk is means dilluting it to meaninglessness trite forum cancer.
Talk about books and games all you want, but they were all just predictions, we are living in the damn reality. There really are megacorps running a world full of polluted slums, and there really are counter culture anti-authoritarian hackers infiltrating and taking down those corporations. But you're too caught up in retroaesthetics to actually be /cyber/.
>>33516
>a small group of human trash making a deal with a daemon and turning it into a god. That's pretty timeless in my opinion.
You're right, that is timeless. Get your shit together /cyber/, if you want to know what modern day cyberpunks look like, go to /baphomet/. One of them just got raided by real life cyberpolice for hacking the head of an intelligence agency, he tried to blow up his rig and got shot twice in the chest. Now that is fucking cyberpunk as fuck, this board is just fucking posers.
No.36094
>>36061
are you a total idiot? a fool? a liar? you have never been to /tech/ or you are a jackass liar.
No.36113
>>36092
>posers
That baphomet thread was a nice fiction, the younger brother thing was like… try hard shit right there. The board owner was in on the joke, maybe he made the whole thing up.
I would like to see some software discussion but that would probably only be on Tor or I2P. Please do step up and make a thread and keep it bumped tho.
Rx is cyber, for me anyway. That or Facism.
>>36094
Maybe its just you, did you ever think of that?
No.36116
>>33245
I personally think that the main problem we have is the overall decentralisation of boards/interests here on 8Chan.
To my knowledge /cyber/ started as a small movement inside the boundaries of /b/. Hence there were more potential contributors who could make for more vivid conversations.
This decentralisation and the consequently less vivid conversations and smaller communities are the downsides of a Chan with user created boards, sadly.
I for one wouldn't have thought that we had only one PPH because of how "many" people were here after the first Exodus. It was quite astonishing, really.
Nonetheless there always was a trend of people leaving /cyber/ for reasons that I don't know. Even I myself took a hiatus of /cyber/ and image boards in general.
We can just hope that there will be some people come and stay here for what ever reason.
No.36118
>>36116
We just need /cyber/ topics and discussion of note. It is up to us to make the threads and post.
No.36126
This board is a pathetic shell of its former self, just like 8chan as a whole. Letting it die would be merciful.
No.36138
>>36126
Thanks for your contributions, goodbye!
No.36147
>>36140
I swear, that guy shills like crazy. I used to hear stories but now I've seen it with my own eyes. I think that he shills with a bot, that is how bad it is.
No.36158
>>36147
who shills? what and how?
No.36169
>>36138
>>36140
>I just started lurking here over the summer
No.36174
>>36158
The admin kalyx of lainchan has shilled his site to death over here. He ran a site-wide banner ad for a week. He shilled his site on /tech/ and cuckchan /g/, among others. What is strange is that he got a small following of dedicated leftists but they cannot agree on anything, although they do agree that they want a chan without chan culture. It was like they were determined to fail from the beginning. Or maybe it was just that they are so far gone they couldn't see what they were doing. Kalyx used his admin position to get donations so he could support himself and buy more Mac hardware, and he cannot into GNU/Linux. He got something out of it, he had some financial incentive to do as he did, but for everybody else involved they were just IRC sycophants, hungry for mod powers on an obscure chan or whatever. Those not in this immediate circle were drawn in by the beloved Lain brand name, and that is how they have existed up until now, but things have changed recently. Kalyx basically went full sperg one time too many and now even his inner circle has turned on him, his chan is going down the tubes into obscurity and he will have to get a real job instead of selling stickers to 14 year olds with the Lain with the lainchan web address printed on them.
No.36178
>>36169
you = who they reply to? or your making fun of them?
No.36180
>>36174
>The admin kalyx of lainchan has shilled his site to death over here.
I didn't see any admin doing shilling, but I did notice lainchan being shilled alot. don't know what lainchan is so I don't know if it's a bad thing or not.
>He ran a site-wide banner ad for a week. He shilled his site on /tech/ and cuckchan /g/, among others. What is strange is that he got a small following of dedicated leftists but they cannot agree on anything, although they do agree that they want a chan without chan culture.
a chan without chan culture sounds stupid. what does political stance have to do with it though, when so many of us anons have so many different and mixed views on many different topics anyway?
>It was like they were determined to fail from the beginning. Or maybe it was just that they are so far gone they couldn't see what they were doing. Kalyx used his admin position to get donations so he could support himself and buy more Mac hardware,
why by any apple, microsoft, intel crap in the first place? can you prove this or you joking?
>and he cannot into GNU/Linux. He got something out of it, he had some financial incentive to do as he did,
proof? I don't even know who this is.
>but for everybody else involved they were just IRC sycophants, hungry for mod powers on an obscure chan or whatever.
a terrible form of corruption. at least they didn't get jobs as cops or teachers. power trippers.
>Those not in this immediate circle were drawn in by the beloved Lain brand name, and that is how they have existed up until now, but things have changed recently. Kalyx basically went full sperg one time too many and now even his inner circle has turned on him, his chan is going down the tubes into obscurity and he will have to get a real job instead of selling stickers to 14 year olds with the Lain with the lainchan web address printed on them.
what even happened? anyway I'm sick of /cyber/ getting so little traffic. we need a stronger user base. I want better discussions and threads and more of them.
No.36198
>>36180
We will make more and better dicussion threads. We need you to take part. I'd go over everything again but if you are really late to the party we might as well forget it. You yourself said that you didn't have any prior knowledge of this drama. I have pics of his mac equipment but I'd need to dig it up, I usually collect tens of thousands of images and it seems a waste to go back and find them when this stuff is known by those who had involvement anyway. For example, kalyx deleted and then brought back as unlisted the /tech/ board on lainchan because they gave him shit for running macs. He brought it back from unlisted status a few days ago. I'm sure the memory is still fresh if you care to ask about it, but like I said earlier, its time to move on and build this place. Consider contributing an article to Infinityzine.
No.36199
well I guess we have alot of lurkers consuming the schway posts
No.36223
No.36253
Half the reason traffic to this board has slowed to a crawl is because of all the shazbots bitching at everyone who isn't an 1337 h4xx0r or a linuxfag. Of course that's going to make people go elsewhere, nobody likes being bitched at by a bunch of elitist fuckwits.
No.36258
>>36253
Now that CISA is getting dangerously close to being possible, we need to be posting more on how to keep yourself safe from criminals, corporations and government (redundant, I know).
No.36259
>>36253
This.
That kind of attitude kills the board.Even on 4chan, the most elitist boards are in the "slow" side. A balance between crap and elitism must be made.
>>36174
>he got a small following of dedicated leftists but they cannot agree on anything
Fanatics/extremists rarily agree on anything and in a chan, that means that no coherent culture will ever form.
No.36266
>>36174
Although him jacking off on cam is lulzy as fuck, the rest of that isn't true.
I know he can't into gnu/linux, but the rest of that shit about leftists is just stupid. He locked a thread telling them to shut the fuck up about all their gay shit not that long ago.
No.36267
hey guys, lurker fag here just popping in to say hi
I hope this winter we can get this place busy or at least more content so everyone is happy
i'm not hugely versed in cyberpunk stuff but I like blade runner and johnny mnemonic and the aesthetic side of it
hope you all had a good day
No.36275
>>36267
>I like blade runner and johnny mnemonic and the aesthetic side of it
You'd probably like the Shadowrun RPG (paper & dice one). Maybe even Rifts (again, paper RPG one, not the vidya one).
I would consider much of Rifts pretty /cyber/. It's got gateways to transdimensional demon/aliens, vampires, and conversion rules to bring Mechwarrior and D&D or anything else into the universe for a campaign, but everything is optional. The Coalition and its Juicers, genetically engineered Dogboys, kill bots, cyborgs, etc. are pretty schway even if their Psionic stuff is fantasy tier though.
My favorite weapon is the monofilament whip as seen in Mnemonic, but much more dangerous when it's flailing about.
This kind of plays into what we're talking about RE: exclusivity vs exclusivity of the cyberpunk genre. There are certainly exclusively cyberpunk areas of the Rifts universe in which to play, even though you have the option to explore the aliens / PSI / Magic etc.
I don't think many people would say Shadowrun isn't cyberpunk even though it has Elves and Trolls and Magic too…
I had started working on a novel which blurred the line a little between the reader's world and the story. I whittled it down into a short story, and thought about contributing it to the lainzine as I polished each chapter. I like /cyber/ a lot more than lainchan, but we don't have a publication. Now I'm pretty sure they're too "feel good" and P.C.-ish for my content.
Unfortunately I accidentally the story along with some other files when some COINTELPRO shit went down and I had to destroy backups.
Starting to work on some new content got me thinking of how one might create a collaborative /cyber/ project. I've had success turning recordings from paper&dice RPGs into entertaining written stories.
A similar approach could be taken in any RPG, say Cyberpunk 2020, for example. A single GM usually creates NPCs but instead multiple people could create the setting, NPCs, etc. world crafting, and even build fleshed out characters. People could take turns playing a character rather than it belonging to a single person (or not, I mention it for the possibility). Rather than rely strictly on game rules and dice, what benefits the story's advancement can be of more import.
Record the sessions / logs, and create a novel or series of stories as more players/GMs/writers explore different parts of the universe.
What's needed is a rethinking of fiction to be more open-source. A creative commons cyberpunk world would allow anyone to join in the creative process of expanding the fiction.
There are already some /cyber/ collab game projects, but they fuck off into retroshare and thus isolate themselves from the greater community. I think that's folly.
I've got a coding project I've been working on that might pull together some of these ideas. But IMO, the most important thing is to keep injecting new ideas and do a bit of work on creative projects.
A platform or medium for content creation is key to increasing similar content. Just look at how fan-fiction takes off: Someone creates a world / universe and others expand on it without compensation or official sanction.
Perhaps we should create our own CC0 licensed /cyber/ fictional setting that people can adopt to expand with writing, art work, traditional and video games, videos, etc?
No.36276
>>36275
*exclusivity vs inclusivity (fucking auto-correct has no vocabulary)
No.36278
>>36275
Rifts is awesome. There are insectisoids and full AI terminators running around where they have taken over and humans can't live in large areas. Maybe this is "post-cyber".
No.36286
>>36258
I actually agree with this. I would like to see ways to protect oneself against monitoring and spying measures. However, I am also currently a windows user, simply because that's what I've grown up using, and I use my computer primarily for gaming. I would like to know about workarounds and ways to disable the monitoring software microcuck is starting to install without user consent and/or knowledge, and furthermore ways to circumvent odd security measures in browsers such as firefox and chrome.
There surely must be ways to do all of this without having to relearn a new OS.
No.36303
>>36286
> There surely must be ways to do all of this without having to relearn a new OS.
No, you need to bite the bullet and make the switch. Back up your data, partition your hard drive, install a beginner distro like Mint, there you go! You will fail with no prior experience most likely so come back here and /tech/. We will help you, I may personally tutor you if that is what it takes… don't give up, don't be a corpcuck.
No.36306
>>36286
Just consider this:
Windows Has an Important Update For You
[Update NSA Backdoor]
[Don't Update And notify NSA of your dissent]
Mint will give you a slider bar to repartition the drive so you can dual boot. Stick any flavor of *nix LiveCD in to see if it'll work with your system (the whole OS will run from just the CD/DVD or flashdrive without touching your existing OS install). Test it out, get online, If you want to install for dual bootage, click install. Move the slider for how much space you wan *nix to have on the HDD, and you're basically done. Even my grandma's comp illiterate bridge partner managed this. Stop being a pussy.
No.36311
>>36306
This anon is running Windows. He needs to:
1. Download a Linux distribution ISO file and unpack it onto a CD or DVD
2. Edit the BIOS setting to boot from the CD/DVD drive first
Then he can play test Linux
Partitioning and installing Grub to dual-boot is later. The first steps are to just see that it IS possible. You can do it, make your dreams come true!
No.36324
>>36306
mint is being shilled.
mint is proprietary.
mint is not foss.
fuck mint
fuck shills
get the fuck out
No.36326
I usually praise systems like linux for promoting privacy. But ever since visiting the chans (4chan, this chan, lainchan) you have all made me so disgusted in Linux. You. You guys, and your constant "muh rice", "muh security", "muh this muh that". What a disgrace. Do you all actually, legitimately, literally, honestly believe using linux /doesn't/ put you on a watchlist on itself? We're in a time where it doesn't even matter which system you use. You're ending up on a watchlist. And you know why linux users get priority filing? Because 99% of people who switch to linux that do illegal things, switch so they can "Securely" do their illegal things. So you guys boasting about your privacy on a broken system being forked, and forked, and forked, and forked into a tangled mess; you guys can enjoy being investigated. Use Linux, use apple, use windows. Nobody cares about your rice or your privacy. When the police decide to investigate someone, they'll investigate you no matter which system you use. Not worried about the police? Just general organizations? Why? What makes you so goddamn special sitting in your room all day watching anime or programming or reading or masturbating?
I'd rather pick a system that is right for me than one that isn't. I don't care about how many backdoors or viri it has. I don't care about anything as long as it works. If linux works for you then good for fucking you. It doesn't make you an cyberpunk 1337 h4x0r Elliot. Nobody in a cyberpunk world would even have access to free systems anyway because that's how the world works.
No.36327
>>36180
The reason why we get little to no traffic is because of the whole system where if there are new threads that aren't posted in the older threads, they get deleted or the admin blocks postings to the thread (e.g; a cyberpunk picture thread when the old one has not been posted into for months got pruned once just for being new; it got more posts than the old one by far, but because one existed they deleted it). This is why nobody posts, because "omg there's already a thread .00001% similar to this, mods!"
No.36337
>>36327
I'd sort of agree with this sentiment. Forcing users to post on old threads eliminates nearly every new-ish threads, to the point that there seem to be no changes/activity on cyber, which becomes part of vicious circle where less people participate because less activity is apparent, etc.
Oyabun seems to mistakenly think that we have enough population to support generals a la 4chan.
>>36324
>propietary
I don't think you understand what that word means.
No.36343
>>36324
>mint is being shilled.
Ubuntu is spyware, but easymode. Mint removes the Ubuntu spyware.
You have to crawl before you can walk. I'm Slackware & FreeBSD myself (but with GNU userland, because fuck using different tools for every OS). *nix noobs can't into Linux From Scratch, so I recommended
Debian is OK too, if a bit SJWy in parts, but they may have to do more if some hardware has no FLOSS driver.
Mint is "shilled" (read: recommended) for newbies because Ubuntu is shit (esp. with it's "not invented here" syndrome, and strange/broken UIs).
One step at a time anon.
No.36347
>>36331
>It disagrees with my views, so it must be bait
No.36354
>>36347
>I don't care about how many backdoors or viri it (my OS) has.
>On cyber
>not bait
riiiiight
No.36361
Should have kept checking back more often, for which I apologize.
Although I can't create much useful content i.e. just one of the vast majority.
Now that I've finally given up on /v/ and took some time to accept it, I'll try to contribute. But first of all I need to read everything I find interesting, so that might take a few days.
RE: *nix discussion
Would it not be simpler to just set up a distro in a VM instead of dual-booting and the like? Or even start with MinGW+MSYS?
>>36354
>>viri
Don't do that.
No.36368
>>36361
For one, I've never managed to get a VM working properly for whatever reason, but booting from a USB has always worked out.
>MinGW+MSYS
For what purpose? If you need to compile you can just use the Microsoft compiler, if you're code doesn't even run across the board on top of windows, it's bad code and MSYS or any other build system
will not help in the long run.
>>36354
There's no need to respond, not even to call it bait.
No.36370
>>36368
>For one, I've never managed to get a VM working properly for whatever reason
After you install VirtualBawks and click "New" you pretty much just follow the wizard(s) until it is done.
Your physical optical drive will be mounted as a virtual optical drive so whatever you put into your actual DVD-RW or whatever it is that you have, it will be working the same exact way in the VM.
That means if, for example, you put a Windows installation disk in your optical drive before starting your new VM, you'll get Windows installation started automatically once the VM gets past POST. Not sure about a Linux so I guess that is what you are talking about.
>For what purpose?
For the purpose of adapting to Bash. Learning common, basic Linux commands. It helped me a lot, even though I didn't seek it out specifically to start moving onto a Linux. Just needed to compile stuff like SDL and something else that I can't remember at the moment.
No.36437
>>33267
The feels are real.
>I think we need to shift gears from celebration into creation, myself.
I think celebration and creation both inspired my little cyberpunk blog. I'm doing my best on my little corner of the net to keep the cyberpunkian spirit alive. Though, lately, I've been a lazybones about updating my blog. Life gets in the way, and all that. But I'll keep at. I've got some many half-finished posts and I just hate leaving things undone.
Keep the struggle alive.
No.36444
>>36437
Don't forget to post here when there is something new, m8.
No.36467
>>36361
What pushed you away from /v/?
>>36437
>Life gets in the way, and all that.
Same issue here.
I'm at a point in my life I haven't got enough time to create and develop all the ideas I've had, nor even care/read/find/comment on the ones someone else has had.
No.36486
>>36444
The blog isn't exclusively Cyberpunk, but it does deal with a lot of cyberpunkian ideas. So I'm not sure if it would fit the spirit around here. But I did throw down a link on my blog to /cyber/. Hopefully the folks who read my blog will give this board a look.
No.36696
>>36467
>What pushed you away from /v/?
With time more users came from halfchan. It is not about where they came from but why they stayed there for so long, and also their reasons for coming. They came not for freedom and truth, they came seeking the next mainstream chan in the making.
The consequences of that are what made me leave, namely accelerating tempo of drops in posting quality, desire for more control from vols, inability to self-moderate and so on. But I gave up trying to help us as a community to lead them by example, speed up their adaptation and prevent our assimilation or ostracization exactly because I realized the underlying motives.
No.36920
>>35841
I should post more GURPS Cyberpunk stuff, or even GURPS Transhuman space stuff, but I'm lazy.
No.36943
>>36696
>they came seeking the next mainstream chan in the making.
So they already left, r-right?
No.36946
>>33245
>So chummers I noticed we have a PPH of 1, it kind of makes me sad. I thought there would be more people interested in cyber as a genre, but I guess not so much as I wished it would be. Any ideas on how we can get more people in here?
I could go to free software meetings and put the URL up on a projector and encourage Taiwanese people to post their incomprehensible moon runes.
No.36954
>PPH of 1, how horrible!!
Doesn't really bother me. It's an imageboard, not a chatroom. Between all the other shit I do I don't have time for more than 24 posts a day.
No.36958
>>36943
Judging by how /b/ is steadily becoming worse - no.
No.36997
>>36946
I'm okay with this
No.37002
>>36997
Sorry, the moon runes will not be coming this week. The Taiwanese had better things to do.
As a consolation prize, here is a blog that mentions cyberpunk:
http://uncabob.blogspot.com/2015/11/the-state-as-machine.html
No.37020
>>36946
that fucking cat haha oh my god
fun things aside, I usually check cyber and keep looking for cyber things out there, will post if I find something, and I'm reading books about computers, so there is that, I recommend the same to everyone. I will post when I has something worthy of sharing, till then, read on, chummers