/cyber/ - Cyberpunk & Science Fiction

ironic shitposting is the worst kind of shitposting

I was actually thinking about this exact question yesterday and the answer is yes.

>>35560

im not even shitposting

im asking this legitimately. while sure, nobody's eating a goddamn burrito in Blade Runner, the only food that will survive in a cyberpunk world altogether are foods that are:

1. Cheap. The average joe isn't going to be wasting all of his precious brouzouf on expensive foods. You can easily get a good burrito for $6.25 tops.

2. Filling. There's no point to spending $6.25 on a food item if it isn't filling as fuck. Thankfully, you're essentially getting your entire day's worth of calories in a single food item– because who bothers jacking out for three meals a day?

3. Properly nutritious. While you might scoff at the concept, it'll probably help keep the body stronger in that it's a decent representation of the food pyramid. It's got wheat, it's got some veggie, it's got plenty of meat, some dairy… and yes, it's probably worth eating nutritiously and avoiding sickness/medical costs.

4. Caloric counts. A Chipotle burrito, for example, is easily ~1200+ calories.

A Soylent Shake, costing $2.42 each, is only 400 calories. A Chipotle burrito, costing $6.50 each, (not including things like guac or double chicken) and has roughly 1200 calories if ordered properly. Calorically speaking, it's the economic and simplest option as well.

5. Easy production. Similar to instant noodles, someone with a few day's worth of training can easily construct a burrito in roughly a minute. No long cooking times or anything of the sort– built and in your hands within a matter of a minute.

6. Easy, on-the-go edibility. Noodles need chopsticks or silverware, while burritos are brought to your mouth by your hands. This allows for consumption on the go, as well as while on public transport. This allows you to conserve on time.

7. It's far superior to things like Soylent in the way that you won't be looked at like (as much of) a fucking nutjob for only drinking weird milkshakes every day, and you'll also look slightly more financially stable than a person living on cheap ramen noodles. Not to mention, in most places within the United States, it's difficult to find an on-the-go noodle shop regardless, and certainly not a cheap one.

Now, can you tell me why burritos *aren't* cyberpunk?

>>35544

>>35562

Assuming you're telling the truth, then I'd go ahead and say it's a /cyber/ food. But the whole idea of cyber intake is to just get the minimum to live on. That means probably anything soylent or budget like fried rice with some slices of meat + a multivitamin. Burritos fill you for _a_ meal instead of the general 2-3 meals a day (breakfast, dinner. Lunch is optional). So you'd be over-consuming if you ate two or three of these a day. Nothings stopping you from growing your own veg, maybe rice, and having chickens to get eggs and meat from.

Yes, as long as the burrito was made by a robot on a street corner.

>>35562

>$6.25 for a Chipotle burrito

>cheap

>"bu-bu-but it's better than Soylent!"

Why are you such a San Francisco bubble shithead. Rice and beans in a tortilla is about $0.30 for a meal.

>>35572

This guy is right.

Even in great British pounds, I could make a stack of burritos for a £1, being lazy.

How people can think in restaurant prices by default. It's like the poor who still buy Starbucks, they've been conditioned to buy this ridiculous crap.

Beans are punk, they are very easy to grow quickly. DIY hydroponic beans and basic veg. Sadly flour is effort.

>>35568

It's a waste of time to have more than one meal a day. Being able to consume all of your required daily calories at once is useful.

>>35572

whats next, are we going to be yelling at Deckard for eating at a noodle shop rather than home making his own?

yes, you can probably home make it and save several brouzouf, but denying as cyberpunk product simply for being sold publicly is obnoxious

regardless, homemade or not, you agree that burritos ARE cyberpunk then, no?

Burritos, kebabs and so on are very likely to be cyberpunk food. While classic cyberpunk envisioned the world where Japanese culture reigns supreme with noodle shops and shit like that everywhere, in reality stuff like sushi and real ramen remains niche and more pricey than burgers, burritos and doner kebabs.

>>35581

Kebab takes a while to make though, does it not?

See, you misunderstand the point. I wasn't telling you that burritos are bad or a poor choice. I happen to love burritos and I might go make one right now. The point of my complaint about the thread boils down to something so obvious I'm surprised I have to explain it.

Cyberpunk does not mean good, tasty, cheap or smart. It's not a catch-all word to describe everything you like.

God damn I'm hungry.

>>35621

> Cyberpunk does not mean good, tasty, cheap or smart. It's not a catch-all word to describe everything you like.

No, but we have a massive thread about 'cyberpunk foods'.

However, plausibly speaking, if the world ever went cyberpunk– would burritos be a more commonplace item, akin to the noodles and nutrition bars we can't shut up about? My reasoning is yes, and that it's far more 'cyberpunk' than really any food that people on the board circlejerk to be considered a 'cyberpunk food'.

>/cyber/ turns a shitposting thread into a cyberfood thread

I'm so proud of you guys.

>>35581

Both are pretty fantastic street foods, and ergo, cyberpunk. Not gonna lie, I love kebabs and gyros, but sadly there are no local places that make them.

However, this comes with a corollary in that it assumes that you're spending more time on the street than in your home. If I'm jacked in for the day, I don't particularly see the point.

If the meat is protein enriched algae paste and vegetables are flavoured synthetic lab grown hydrocells then yes

>>35544

Should've said hotpockets, OP.

Peanuts are a decent /cyber/ snack though.

>>35544

OP it's even cheaper if you make it totally vegan.

you don't add meat and add a huge amount more beans than usual. maybe some tofu. It's gotta be organic though, to avoid loads of bad shit.

>>35664

mmmm spirulina.

>>35685

Veganfag pls go

you are the reason I don't visit this board as often as I used to

>>35695

OP or /ckfitvegan/ anon?

>>35688

but spirulina anon. SPIRULINA!

>>35562

In support of soylent, you don't have to go around telling everyone that you only ever consume "weird milkshakes". Just drink it when you're hungry, no one will know it isn't a regular milkshake, and no one will care, they'll just think you like milkshakes.

>>35699

>>35562

I don't support soylent (the product) I don't like the quality of the ingredients and I can actually make a better and more nutritious shake myself.

I can mix all kinds of nuts, seeds, spirulina, herb powders, fruit powders and such, some d3 and b12 sprays from garden of life at wholefoods, and make a nutritionally complete shake (or mushy blended slush goop/ nutritional paste) that has more vitamins and minerals, of better quality than soylent.

I just don't like it how soylent goes as far as it does, and then just falls short of what COULD have been a true healthy and easy alternative to food and multivitamins, but just like multivitamins it ends up as a bunch of synthetic crap.

>>35686

>>35698

I put spirulina in my homemade soylent. Feels cyb man.

Unfortunately, it's rather pricey unless it comes from costco, so -10 punk

>>35704

rarely been in costco before, but have never noticed spirulina there. much cheaper online if you have a trusted source.

>>35562

Not cyber enough. I want to squeeze my food out of a toothpaste tube. Ideally a tube will have one measure of liquid to chase it with. Perfection.

post moar cyber food

>>36265

I always thought the flying noodle house from Fifth Element was pretty /cyb/, I'm pretty sure there was a robot bartender in that movie too.

>>36281

What would be cyber toppings? Should the slices be really small and thin?

Is anything pre-packaged that is specifically designed to be microwavable cyber?

>>35562

Six bucks for a burrito? Nigga I get schway-ass protein-packed burritos for $1.25 on a regular basis. And I get equally-filling cans of spaghettios for about 60 cents thanks to my employee discount (only thing about being a corpcuck that isn't absolutely terrible).

>>35580

Well burritos can be quite a utilitarian food, which is cyberpunk as hexadecimal, but buying them from a chain like Chipolte is not. In the perfect cyber world, noodle shops are run by old crotchety senseis who teach you valuable lessons about life, not a multi-million dollar corporation.

As such, in this world, your handheld Mexican nourishment should be sold from a street vendor or shop run by a jolly husky Latino of questionable citizenship, preferrably augmented by black market cybernetics provided by the Mexican cartels. Not only will they NOT be working for the man, they will probably be much cheaper than Chipolte.

Basically, another point someone was getting at, because the burrito is convenient doesn't quite make it "cyberpunk," but I think it does make a good food item to fit into the circumstances of such a world.

Look at those plebs, thinking burritos and pizza is cyber. Do you think future will be comfy, like "OMG, pizza for $1.25", with all your homie cheap mainstream food available everywhere? Do you even /cyber/, bro?

Consider hakarl, bureks, plov and lagman is the real food of the future.

>>36308

derezz urself, you cyberhipster

>>36345

Point still stands.

"I ate at Burger King today. Is it /cyber/? It is a big corp, cheap food, utilitarian too, right-right guys?" Enjoy your ignorance, shazzbot.

>food

>cyber

Nigga, people should eat pills.

Think about it: We know how much vitamin, mineral and calories it takes to keep a man going per day. Wouldn't it make sense to slap all that shit in one pill that you take in the morning?

>But muh digestion

Down it with formaldehyde, fuck up your digestive tract until it's useless.

>but muh chewing

That's the one thing people would miss. When I was bedridden in an hospital, I missed chewing food more than eating it.

Probabbly make a sort of large buble gum. Like when you put 5 of them in your mouth. Flavorless, but you can chew on it for an hour or two after you take your Vita-pill and pretend it's real food.

>>36355

why not just have the gum have all that shit in it and you absorb the nutrients with your mouth and the saliva you swallow, no need for a pill

>>36350

I still maintain that just straight-up street food is /cyber/ as fuck, and Blade Runner (and the asian themes one finds in cyberpunk in general) mean that asian street food, especially noodles, is particularly cyberpunk.

Harkarl looks disgusting, and not like something that'll ever spread - if for no other reason, because fishing is limited and drying up quickly. Bureks just looks like another ethnic pastry, not something that I could see particularly spreading save via immigrants, although to be fair, kebabs took off in the same way, even though they were always more widespread, being the hamburger of the middle east and surrounding areas. Plov is just a hipster way of saying pilaf, which is already a fairly common dish, but has nothing particularly /cyber/ about it. Lagman/Lamian looks schway.

I take it you're from Uzbekistan?

>>36339

They also get boring as fuck very quickly, as any poor college student can tell you. I spiced my ramen routine up back in the day by adding stuff - first leeks, then soup stock instead of flavor powder, then eggs dropped in while it's boiling, then chives and onion and garlic powder, but I can barely stand to eat the stuff to this day because I used to consume so much of it.

It's also miserably unhealthy for you.

>>36359

Pills go into your stomach. I'm not a nutritionist, but I think it's absorbed faster that way.

I guess it depends on how things are digested. Someone with more biology knowledge could tell us.

I guess if you wanted it even faster, a supository would do. Which would be funny. Humanity gets so fucked up, we start eating backwards.

The food itself isn't cyberpunk, it's how you get it that is

>hack a vending machine

>have android serve it to you

>BTTF2-style food rehydration machine

Or you could sprinkle nanomachines on it and call it a day

>>36367

You can absorb certain chemicals sub-lingually (through the tissues in your mouth), but what about macro nutrients? For instance, fats will require bile from your gall-bladder to digest.

>>36355

So, the bubble gum from willy wonka?

>>36307

found the janitor. Keep your greasy disgusting burrito wannabees.

>>36482

China/Japan aren't the world superpowers that 80's writers imagined them to be.

Something being Asian no longer automatically qualifies it as cyberpunk.

>>36803

That's lamer than all the shazbots talking about muhbrics

Back in the 80s you had actual metrics showing that japan was going to dominate, the "economic miracle" was insane growth, but it became a bubble that exploded

On the other hand china is already collapsing, projects like these or those absurd new cities are desperate attempts to keep the economy going now that foreign demand for cheap shit its down and the average chinese is getting restless

>>35562

>It's got wheat,

Wheat? WHEAT?? You need to try a corn-based wrap, white man! That wheat stuff is unacceptable once you've experienced the bliss of corn.

>>36377

You know what's /cyber/? hacking a vending machine that gets deliveries made to it by another robot. No humans involoved, and shitty programming means no one will know for a long time. The downside is that you're only eating food that can be stored a long time, and also that probably has comparatively low calorie density. But, it's free for you, and corporations are footing the bill. So eating shitty food is your way of saying , "fuck the system".

>>36851

This guy knows what's up. Fuck wheat, corn is where it's at. Plus, future corn prolly has so many genetic modifications that no one, besides the higher-ups of the company that owns the rights to the corn, knows what it's made of.

(Yes I know wheat is GMO but corn is better at it)

>>36856

Come back when you have gastritis or ulcer and say it again.

>>35580

>It's a waste of time to have more than one meal a day

Believe it or not that shortens your life. I can't remember the exacts of the biological implications since most of my biology class was spent talking to my friend, but I think it goes like if you binge eat in one sitting it causes your body to work overtime in a giant spurt rather than a few spurts per day (blood pressure rising, something something). Over time this places a lot of stress on your cardiovascular system and in the end shortens your life. It's like consuming an energy drink only once a day (except imagine this energy drink has all your needed nutrients). You'll get a spike then a drop some point in the day. Do this for a while, you're going to kill yourself sooner.

>>36834

That explains mostly why they raised their child policy from 1 to 2 children per couple.

GENTLEMEN.

I give you "blunner".

Breakfast, lunch and dinner in one roll.