No.35794
As most of us know, censorship & surveillance are our biggest threats. Hardware backdoors, censorship on social websites, and background data collection in software are their primary form. The question is, how are we going to combat them?
Any solutions we adopt need to be easily able to be distributed and decentralized. If it's not accessible we'll cut off most of our potential userbase, and if there's a central body a corporation or government could sue or otherwise pursue then it will not last against a determined foe.
Use this thread to discuss technologies and techniques internet denizens can use to dodge Gov./Megacorp surveillance and censorship of all forms.
Potential Hardware Solutions:
-3D printed homebrew hardware, distribute the models online for free
-Website that tracks hardware backdoors and allows users to share strategies on disabling/removing them.
Potential Software Solution:
-Firewall that blocks all outgoing information that isn't specifically authorized and provides false info to fool data-miners.
Potential Online Solutions:
-Improved TOR-style network that fully protects anonymity
-A peer-to-peer hosted net where each connected machine acts as a server, unlike TOR which relies on the TOR network of servers. Files would be hosted on random machines, and the user that was the original owner of the file will not be attached to that machine. Essentially, an anonymous decentralized cloud-networking solution that protects anonymity.
This is all brain-storming, feel free to tell me if I'm a dumbass and none of this is feasible
No.35795
Blockchain technology definitely. Resistant to censorship despite it's still in its infancy you can see its potential for decentralized consensus, voting, tax collection, even a decentralized Amazon-like company could be plausible.
No.35798
>-A peer-to-peer hosted net where each connected machine acts as a server, unlike TOR which relies on the TOR network of servers. Files would be hosted on random machines, and the user that was the original owner of the file will not be attached to that machine. Essentially, an anonymous decentralized cloud-networking solution that protects anonymity.
This sounds just like an improved retroshare.
No.35799
>>35798
Very much so. Basically a second dark web hosted on the same kind of technology
No.35808
>>35798
Literally Freenet.
No.35819
>>35808
Not literally, but close enough for OP's wants.
No.35828
what do y'all think of ipfs?
No.35835
>>35828
Terrible, but it's being shilled ridiculously hard on /tech/.
No.35859
No.35917
No.35923
Depending on your level.
Casual: rooted Smartphone, Windows Computer with encrypted files and some good plugins for your browser
Medium: Featurephone without mobile Internet, atleast one Not-Windows Computer, encrypted, Browserplugins including Noscript, pay-VPN
Hard: Featurephone plus Netbook/UMPC for mobile Internet (not Windows, maybe Tails), Computer with as much open hardware as possible, not Windows, Running all Internet-using Software inside of a VM, encrypted, Pay-VPN plus Tor
Also try to handle not so common OS' as these are less targeted by enemies. Try to learn some scripting languages and/or network analysis to help in projects. (they really need your help)
OR if you are a richfag support them with some brouzouf so they can eat. OR if you have good speaking skills consider to join a NGO with these aims. Like EFF.
No.35927
>>35794
as long as we use deep sea cables and commercial ISPs they will own the web.
See: guifi.net and similar projects.
No.35933
>>35923
rooted phones are idiotic.
yes, they are cool, but its just better software running on unsafe hardware.
No.35999
/CYBER/ MUST /SURVIVOR/
BUMPING!
No.36161
No.36168
>>35794
>makes thread about resistance
>uses Weyland mega corp logo
Johnson detected
No.36193
>>35794 (OP)
sed -i 's/TOR/Tor/g'
No.36195
>>35933
safe hardware doesnt exist, as long you want small size or potent power.
No.36201
There is going to need to be alot more hardware hacking/creation before we have any safe and open hardware to work with when it comes to anything tech related. There just never seems to be enough drive to do so unless brouzouf is involved… :<
No.36202
>>36195
what this guy said
No.36220
>>36195
that's a silly assumption to make.
No.36221
we need free open source software as well as free open source hardware
FOSS and FOSH
No.36224
>>36220
why? Because trying this might result in success?
No.36227
>>36220
ignore other reply, wrong thread.
Still, why? I couldn't find any, might you point out something?
No.36229
>>36224
I'm saying its silly to assume that there is no such thing is good hardware.
we need free open source software and free open source hardware
foss and fosh
No.36230
>>36229
There is good hardware. In theory. But not in reality.
No.36322
>>36230
fuck off shill
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) No.36424
>>36230
>There is good hardware. In theory. But not in reality.
Sounds like you are trying to get others to give up hope. There is such thing as good hardware out there and there is nothing you can do about it.
"Reality is that which when you stop believing in it, does not fade away."
No.36425
>>36322
About fucking time we had some moderation around here.
You guys want some real resistance? How about making encrypted phone calls the norm? 15 years ago cypherpunks made a plan to make the majority of internet traffic SSL. Now over 80% of the bits are encrypted, even if most of that is to or from the datacenters of anti-privacy corps like jewgle and facekike.
We love to build shit that's fun for ourselves, like homebrew hardware, filesharing networks, etc. Most people are plebs (not necessarily a bad thing) and not interested in that kind of stuff. The pleb doesn't want to tinker with hardware because he finds it stressful. The pleb is afraid of filesharing because he's heard it's wrong and could get him in trouble. From a privacy perspective, we're better off if we can hide in a bigger crowd. If you have the only SSL connection you're a target. If you have the only phone capable of encryption then you can't even use it.
I love the idea of localized mesh networks. Find some scrap metal to build high-gain directional antennae and link up with your friends all over the city. Share your connections to the internet to break the idea that an IP address can be tied to an individual.
No.36428
>>36425
I agree with everything you said but
>About fucking time we had some moderation around here.
>seriously praising someone getting derezzed for calling out a shill
what are you? evil or something?
No.36447
>>36428
Not that anon, would like to interject. That post is not a contribution to the discussion, its just noise.
No need for
>calling out a shill
because we are not braindead retards here, everyone sees which reply means what, there is no need to spill annoying buzzwords, its not pol. Not to mention that this anon is probably too mentally challenged to write a decent reply like this >>36424 because that's outside of his attention span.
I could, instead of writing all this, say "FUCK YOU COCK-SUCKING FАGGOT", but that's not how discussion works. Let's not lower /cyber/ to that level.
>>36425
> How about making encrypted phone calls the norm?
Can we make a software voice scrambler similar to SIGSALY that would use PKI+fingerprint for exchanging parameters of scrambling?
No.36456
>>36447
you are kinda cool. but I still need to call out shills. I must.
No.36462
>>36424
Can we come to the point where you simply point me to this existing good hardware? Because I've never seen any. And if I would I will take back everything I said.
No.36492
>>36462
why should I tell someone like you, who does not wish for good hardware to exist, where they should find good hardware? you obviously hate it or something.
there is alot of good hardware, and people will never give up. people wil never stop improving.
No.36544
>>36492
>can you show me this hardware?
>no
Nice one shazbot. Just because Ive never seen any means I am against it? Cmon just show me I'm after it too but can only find pre-2000 hardware which is 100% open.
No.36576
>>36544
I don't share good info with shills m8.
No.36590
>>36322
Nice. Now we have censorship on this site too.
No.36603
this concept here is how we might begin communicating
No.36674
>>36590
>calls out obvious shill
>gets derezzed
>shill doesn't get derezzed
I'm not happy, lets think about leaving for a new board?
No.36676
>>36195
>what is open hardware
>Implying the knowledge of Intel or AMD isn't re-doable with open sourceness
jesus dude,
the real problem of indie open source hardware is initial budget and small niche market
There is no real technical knowledge problem in making an open source smart phone
No.36749
>>36676
>but open source smart phones are possible!
yes, but to this day none are made.
No.36751
>>36674
The internet disappoints me nowadays in general. No point.
No.36893
>>35819
What part of that description doesn't apply to Freenet? To me it seems exactly like what he described. Point out which part Freenet doesn't fulfill please.
No.37946
If you don't start building a piratebox immediately after reading this post, you are a megacorp-enabler.
What is it?
https://piratebox.cc/faq
>PirateBox is a DIY anonymous offline file-sharing and communications system built with free software and inexpensive off-the-shelf hardware. Learn more below by reading our FAQs or start building one now.
1. get a raspi or openwrt device or old laptop
2. install the img or software and services
3. deploy, hidden, in a public space
It comes with file upload and browsing, a simple chan "forum" (wakaba), and minidlna.
Enjoying one little file storage and conversation node is just the first step. Once you show people how computers really work, and that the centralized architecture of the internet is a very poor modification to the original concept. and you add more and more boxes and network them together… You have a mesh.
Longterm plan:
Dozens of boxes in a town/area, networked with cjdns, sharing content and connected to the normalnet too, so people can fulltime use local nodes as infrastructure grows.
A global mesh is made of nodes. Build the first one in your area, right now, start downloading and looking around for a board with wifi.
No.37957
>>37946
:O
Based user, thank you for alerting me to this project. Hopefully a new node will be going online in my hometown within a week…
No.37963
It's a political problem that requires a political solution. You can't smash capitalism from your bedroom.
No.37968
>>37957
Schway, user. Post back and tell us your progress, and update us in #piratebox on freenode, too. This community needs a revival.
My project will be posting info at http://cultoflan.neocities.org
maximum leejunshazbotry so it'll spread, hopefully, and because it's fun
No.37969
>>37946
>Going into the middle of a public space and hiding a mysterious metal box full of electronic components
Time to die…
No.37970
>>37969
>not being stealthy
I bet you've never raided shit
No.37982
>/pol/ is better at wireless subversion than /cyber/
>>>/pol/4202899
No.37983
>>37946
ok i'm going to make a few of these, but realistically,what kind of battery life would be possible? It would defeat the purpose if I have to go find it every few hours to swap out batteries
No.37984
>>37983
You can buy huge batteries but you still want them to be recharging themselves somehow.
The first one I'm making personally is wall-powered to avoid this problem for now and test the social takeup and impact.
Many anons in the /pol/ thread are investigating solar+battery or some other combination. One anon said he was going to get his into an air vent.
No.37986
>>37963
Of courshe you can't, Chummer.
Need a shadowlands to discuss that kind of drek tho.
>>37969
Aww?! Does the babby not know how does I make run?
It's simple…
*Don't get caught*
No.37987
>>37984
Kek. Airvents are useful for something other than hiding Stumpys!
No.37988
>>37982
Duh, chummer. Humanis gets shit done.
No.37989
>>36168
Hey, chummer. Work is work. Don't tell me you've never taken a Renraku Job.
No.37990
>>35798
You're basically waiting for someone to invent Jackpoint.
congrats, Omae! YOU'RE ON FUCKING JACKPOINT!
No.37991
1. Start lamp business(or any other common appliance). Maybe target geek culture and put some "nerdy" graphics on them.
2. Put a pirate box inside every unit with a randomly generated connection name.
3. ????
4. Self-creating network.
No.37993
>>37946
>>36749
The anon just literally fucking stated why it's not going to happen
>lack of budget
>market is extremely niche, limited to a few thousand people
You need at least a few hundred thousand for a hardware market to be financially viable. And if it was open hardware then guess what? Anyone will just replicate it.
No.37995
>>37991
Do you mean lamp as in "I love lamp" or as in "linux apache mysql php"?
No.37996
>>36893
The burden of proof is on you, not that anon.
No.37997
>>37995
Light And Maybe Pole
No.37998
>>37991
You don't think people will put two and two together? I mean, I think I would notice it if there was a network in my house that only existed when a certain lamp is on or when I am using the toaster.
Not to mention that the hardware cost would drive the cost of the appliance up, either cutting your profits or making the appliance too expensive for people to want to buy it.
No.37999
>>37998
Not the lamp guy but there are people who pay like $500 for sunglasses with Gucci written on it I don't see why someone wouldn't pay a fair sum for a lamp as long as it looks modern and minimalist.
No.38006
Is there any easy way to recognize pirate networks in the wild? I mean you go into the city and there's a zillion networks…how would you identify one of these without having to connect to every single one?
>>37998
>"i think i would notice if there was a network in my house that only existed when a specific lamp was turned on"
The rain man himself would not notice this, autist.
No.38010
All these "i want" and "i need" and almost no "how can i build it".
Why.
No.38015
>>38006
>Calling others autists on an imageboard
Pot calling the kettle black
No.38018
>>38010
You are right. I'm hoping some anons get off their asses and revitalize this project. Visit the forums! https://forum.piratebox.cc
No.38023
>>38006
>I mean you go into the city and there's a zillion networks…how would you identify one of these without having to connect to every single one?
That's why they're mostly named "Piratebox – Share Freely"
No.38024
>>38023
An anon in /pol/ said that his was named Piratebox - Truth Atx so they can be renamed but it seems that piratebox is a good place to start
No.38031
>>37984
What if you put it in the wall of a rental home? If you're an electrician, you could wire it up behind a socket and it would probably go undiscovered for a decade.
No.38062
>>35794
>Potential Hardware Solutions:
>-3D printed homebrew hardware, distribute the models online for free
I can't wait for this to become real. Homebrewed hardware is the final frontier.
I've been studying alternatives, every fucking one that exists, and shit is ugly. Unless we go full slowtech, back to analog, electromagnetic tape, radio transmission and mechanical parts, it's not doable right now. Even 70s electronics are way ahead of anything that can be achieved at home.
Albeit the biggest issue really is communication. You can always faraday-cage everything and compute safely and privately at home, but as soon as communication gets in line, you're back to stone age.
No.38214
>>38062
>I've been studying alternatives, every fucking one that exists, and shit is ugly. Unless we go full slowtech, back to analog, electromagnetic tape, radio transmission and mechanical parts, it's not doable right now. Even 70s electronics are way ahead of anything that can be achieved at home.
What about building systems within FPGAs?
Also, have you looked at Oberon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberon_%28programming_language%29
No.38313
>>38023
How about setting them up at libraries & universities, and asking someone in staff if they are interested in giving free, secure, encrypted Internet to students?
No.38331
How about using Gopher protocols or even going back to using EBBS?
No.38525
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Volafile has a pretty good record and policy for privacy and confidentiality of user data.
It's a bit like 8chan in that you can automatically generate your own page pretty quickly.
Good for files of all sorts with IRC. Maybe we should set up a cyber-chan Volafile room for our warez and filez and thingz?
You know, The Principality of Sealand used to run a data haven, what would it take to set up something like that again?
No.38555
IPFS over I2P, with many mixers with the clearnet/spynet so that all the IPFS traffic on I2P is not cutting itself off from the rest of the IPFS traffic in the world.
No.38557
>>37946
>cjdns
No, this is not a mesh protocol. That's like saying I2P or GNUnet is a mesh. CJDNS is pretty fuckin' cool but it has nothing to do with making a meshnet.
What you're looking for is something like BATMAN-ADV or OLSR, which is what Byzantium Linux uses.
http://www.olsr.org/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
http://project-byzantium.org/download/
Also people interesting in meshnets should look at Forban, a filesharing application that runs on wifi mesh networks.
http://www.foo.be/forban/
No.38558
>>37946
>cjdns
No, this is not a mesh protocol. That's like saying I2P or GNUnet is a mesh. CJDNS is pretty fuckin' cool but it has nothing to do with making a meshnet.
What you're looking for is something like BATMAN-ADV or OLSR, which is what Byzantium Linux uses.
http://www.olsr.org/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
http://project-byzantium.org/download/
Also people interesting in meshnets should look at Forban, a filesharing application that runs on wifi mesh networks.
http://www.foo.be/forban/
No.38694
>>38214
>What about building systems within FPGAs?
It's a good solution, but then can we trust the FPGA? That issue kinda balances itself easily with two things:
- basic FPGAs are easy to audit, as they just repeat the same pattern over and over, albeit "easy" means "doable", not "done in 10 minutes", it's still a big job;
- the complexity of a system running on a FPGA would require a spying chip about twelve times the size of the FPGA to effectively spy on it, so you could easily see it.
I'm still not quite ready to trust FPGAs, but they're a good alternative, albeit not in line with "homebrew hardware". My first objective if I could make electronics would indeed to make a FPGA.
But sadly we're really not there yet.
No.38758
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>>38557
What kind of hardware do you recommend for a Byzantium setup?
No.38861
Literally wtf? Pic related is my nearest "dead-drop" (https://deaddrops.com/), a 35 minute drive away. It has been rainy and cold and we will soon have snow, and it has been below freezing at night for weeks. How it this USB supposed to be survivable? Why would I drive from my comfy NEET-hovel to access files from some shazbot with shit taste? Everything about this is wrong. This isn't even encrypted shit, people can see me coming to access the USB, why would I compromise my physical security by using this? Its an art project, but a loser in my opinion. Nobody should be promoting this.
No.38953
>>36193
we can win one battle at a time
No.38954
>>38861
>dead drop
that looks super obvious
they couldn't even try to hide it?
No.38975
>>38861
Free offline non-cloud virus distribution. Oh boy, I can barely contain myself. That'll teach those megacorps not to mess with us.
No.39038
>>38313
Because unless you know the staff member in particular, no one in the Uni or on their payroll will agree to it especially if you fucking call it a Piratebox and slap a black skull on it. Everyone thinks tech is magic so you KNOW they'll think its some virus encrusted piece of shit thatll give their mac aids or something…
1st: You're an autistic neckbeard, we all are. Who the fuck is going to accept a piratebox being set in the middle of the library if the autist neckbeard "swears' by it? This goes back to the Mac AIDS argument, you dont work for the Uni therefore they dont trust you. So offering to set up "Free encrypted internet" is an offer thats too good to be true and they'll probably think the box contains CP or Human Souls or some shit.
2nd: You're literally walking into a Pro-establishment…establishment shut up and setting up something controversial that can serve to destabilize the Stat Quo.
Universities have a tendency to shy away from controversy as a given and so their obvious answer will be "Fuck no". Even if you ask anon if you ARE found out, you're gonna get it in the bum.
*Better idea!* Set up the network but dont tell the staff you fuckin retard. Tell the people who are running around in CS and anything IT. Hell if the IT guy is relatively young he'll probs think thats schway af.
Spread it via word of mouth and social media as the Uni, again, has very limited interest in that shit (see controversy) and will share info.
Mind you, this shit will probs be used for cheating and shit of that nature, so your entirely good natured project will bite you in the ass if a staff member ID's you. But so long as you aren't fucking retarded, you can hide the Pillboxes anywhere and everywhere without much worry.
*Suggestions* Restrooms (everyone uses a cellphone in there).
Server Room (only a handful of people know how that shit works and even they dont know half the shit thats in there)
Behind or beside large and relatively stable machinery (Printers are the bane of everyones existence but they need em, hide it under or behind it and pray they don't know wtf it is and just leave it be.)
Teacher offices (Students get their shit updated regularly and so do their facilities, teachers normally dont get the same liberties, so just set em in one of their rooms in an unremarkable location and it'll generally be ignored)
You can try to be fancy and hide it in books and shit but generally that damages property and forces them to put the defiler on priority. If you just leave shit lying around, they probably wont fuck with it if they don't have a clue as to what it is and either confiscate it or leave it be. So long as when they start doing a show of hands to determine who owns the mystery box and you aren't dumb enough to respond, you're likely going to be okay with simple (if boring) methods of hiding the shit.
Also be sure that if the shit dies, you don't replace it. Ever.
Just make a new one and place it at a new location. Sure, that increases the chances of being found out, but if all they find are unlabeled mentos boxes filled with electronic bits and it doesnt "look" like a bomb, you're pretty much good.
Basically, make it discreet, make it bland, make it hidden.
Even if someone does go looking for your shit half of it is either unseen, unnoticed, or just an expensive doorstop by the time they find it.
No.39040
>>39038
Also, a few teachers have been known to use TOR for bypassing UNI filters. Just find out who's making use of that and you can make the network a sort of "unspoken" liberty especially at poorer public uni's.
AS much as the fuckers wanna keep shit under their thumb, if you produce something uncensorable, but to their benefit, they'll allow it (why do you think the internet got as far as it did?)
No.39133
>>38975
>not installing anti-virus
aslong as you dont run that shady shell script to haxor facebooks, you'll be fine. as for the ilitterates going on your box, best of luck to them…
No.39173
>>36674
>le make more boards
No.39206
>>38006
>>38018
mesh nets are actually old and more common than you think. In cuba for example, people have built a network utilizing their TV antennas, because government limits network access. Prior to that, people used to share files through a underground network, callet Paqueta, where people would exchange movies, programs, ebook or music via small media like DVDs or usb drives.
Me and a few mates from college had something like(!) a meshnet going at university. Basically offering thousands of pirated movies and music through a openly accessible WLAN with the hardware stored in a car we parked near campus almost all of the time.
This ran for like 2 years and statistically speaking, people downloaded shit worth of several hundred million dollars.
To get that shit rollin', we'd spread leaflets during the night with the WLAN information and how to use it. It was basically a website which people were redirected to automatically once they joined our access point and opened their browser.
>>38525
There are some interesting projects going to create 'small countries' by building artificial islands and form specific communities on them with thousands of people. There is one project which tries to build a scientist society in the middle of the ocean - forgot the name though. They're active and accumulating funds right now.
The future will create much more of projects like this, on sea or land but I doubt they will be accessible by the common people, as most projects cater towards financial elites.
No.39207
>>35794
We are living in dark fucking times, a guy got arrested and then deported from gaynada for refusing to unlock the decryption on his phone, he wasn't even a fucking extremist or anything just a random guy who was demanded to surrender the files in his phone for inspection by the gestapo mounties and refused to do so.
For all the jokes we make about living in a syndicate-like society dominated by megacorps whats ironic about those settings is that there were work-arounds, there were still places to escape this shit, but in our reality the megacorps and governments have paid shills and bots pretending to be other users on the internet so they can catch you, this is KGB-tier shit
These systems are put in place not to fight terrorists and extremists but to stifle dissent against the status quo, so of course they became really efficient at doing that
>>35923
>Windows Computer with encrypted files
Kek, bitlocker is compromised and windows has a ton of backdoors
Best option is to have a clean windows computer so as to not look suspicious and just boot linux off a pendrive you can destroy if found out
>>36425
>If you have the only SSL connection you're a target
>I love the idea of localized mesh networks
A mesh network node makes you an even bigger target, keep in mind the pigs are unlike to take a node, they will compromise it instead and use it to gather as much data about the network as they can
A direct laser link its practically invulnerable to this shitty tactics and pretty much the stealthiest form of data transmission, problem is you need a direct line of sight between the nodes so unless you live in an urban sprawl with no buildings and few trees it would take all your buddies living almost in front of each other for it to work
>>36456
You still haven't explained why that guy is a shill you shazbot
>>36931
Fat fuck just got deported to burgerstan where he's gonna get butfucked for megaupload
He's not gonna do shit
>>37968
Got a map of those? to see if there's any in my city
>>37969
Better hide it as something no "urban" person will ever take nor open: a book
>>37991
>using dumb hipsters who buy stupid overpriced shit to build a mesh network
>get the pigs to raid their houses
Schway, nice thinking user
>>37993
There are already open chips we can use, and with RiscV there's gonna be even more
Fucking search around before shitposting
>>37995
I would make it a desktop vintage lamp, pixar-style but with a modern twist like LEDs and shit, you can fit a bananapi (rpi are sellouts) with a battery and use the lamp's surface as one big antenna
>>37998
>I think I would notice it if there was a network in my house
We're talking hipsters here, dumbest of the dumb
Also hidden SSID man, they're not gonna notice
No.39256
>>38975
>being such a pleb your OS allows for viruses to propagate through USB
No.39259
>>39256
>not using libre hardened usb firmware
No.39274
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Y'all nigs should hold some cryptoparties.
https://www.ccczh.ch/~cryptoparty/cryptoparty-handbook-2013-08-21.pdf
They're like Tupperware parties for cyberpunks.
No.40652
No.40736
“The world is not sliding, but galloping into a new transnational dystopia. This development has not been properly recognized outside of national security circles. It has been hidden by secrecy, complexity and scale. The internet, our greatest tool of emancipation, has been transformed into the most dangerous facilitator of totalitarianism we have ever seen. The internet is a threat to human civilization.
These transformations have come about silently, because those who know what is going on work in the global surveillance industry and have no incentives to speak out. Left to its own trajectory, within a few years, global civilization will be a postmodern surveillance dystopia, from which escape for all but the most skilled individuals will be impossible. In fact, we may already be there.
While many writers have considered what the internet means for global civilization, they are wrong. They are wrong because they do not have the sense of perspective that direct experience brings. They are wrong because they have never met the enemy.”
― Julian Assange, Cypherpunks: Freedom and the Future of the Internet
——————–
Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
Zuck: Just ask
Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?
Zuck: People just submitted it.
Zuck: I don't know why.
Zuck: They "trust me"
Zuck: Dumb fucks
Instant messages sent by Zuckerberg during Facebook's early days, reported by Business Insider (May 13, 2010)
No.40737
>>35794
No, Muslims are our biggest threat.
No.40738
>>40737
I expect them to be pacified a-la post WW2 Japan in the near future (10-20 years, 67% confidence. would bet brouzouf on if had any).
Without nuclear weapons though, and cultural effects will be less radical.
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>>40738
Islamic terrorists are too useful as a bogeyman to give our masters an excuse to curtail our rights. Expect them to be carefully cultivated and provoked, and regularly harvested, to make it look like our military, police and intelligence communities do something apart from step on our faces.
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>>40745
Eeh, there's endless supply of bogeymen, and history shows them being rotated frequently.
Having domestic terrorists and other internal "enemies" as a scarecrow is more useful for purposes of face-stomping.