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 No.35800

> be NSA, Google, etc

> store petabytes of data each day

> their face when said data is mostly non-text and therefore unsearchable/useless

That's why posting using images only is schway. Image boards were made for this.

> inb4 mah ocr teknologie

> simply don't do https://support.google.com/drive/answer/176692?hl=en

> mfw i posted this in image only format but the mods deleted it

 No.35802

The vast majority of images are reposts, indeed the vast majority of content on the internet is reposts. If you're storing all of it, you only need to actually process/identify the OC, which is a tiny proportion of all posts. The image you just posted has probably already been identified and classified elsewhere, so the image recognition algorithm doesn't need to be able to know who the dude is or what his expression means, it just has to match it against the other instances of that image.

Also don't pretend that Google's commercially available OCR is the same as the government's classified OCR.


 No.35811

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>>35802

>Also don't pretend that Google's commercially available OCR is the same as the government's classified OCR.

>


 No.35814

Why do you think they're developing A.I?


 No.35824

>>35800

duplicated thread

>>35715


 No.35827

>>35802

The purpose of image posting is not for the images to be totally unreadable but to tax the information gathering system.

It's one thing to hand them text files that can easily be processed and it's a completely another thing processing images and trying to figure out their contents.

For example, traditional web scraping becomes almost impossible for a site with no text.


 No.35846

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The more difficult you make it for them to harvest useful data–the more they'll invest in developing their methods. For example it does not make sense to transmit lots of useless data via the most advanced methods because then it raises the motivation for the intelligence agencies to develop their tech…

Only transmit vital data through non-normie ways. (TOR is closely related to this: we want it to be big enough so it's secure etc but not too big that the NSA will increase their "TOR-related budjet")

Hopefully my non-professional rant has given insight to any of you.


 No.35849

>>35846

>but not too big that the NSA will increase their "TOR-related budjet"

I think its a little bit late for that.


 No.35851

>>35849

Yeah, absolutely. I2P is the way to go… Tor is flawed anyway because of it's inability to handle torrent traffic properly. IPFS is looking solid too.


 No.35852

>>35851

IPFS and Tor are in no way meant to cover the same niche. Tor is for communicating anonymously, IPFS is for distributing files via swarm. IPFS could easily be used to learn information about you since other people are able to figure out everything that you have browsed. Using it over I2P or gnunet won't protect you from this.

I2P is what you would use for torrenting.


 No.35903

>>35846

1) Image to text is never 100% correct (especially on a large scale). On the other hand, text reading is… 100% correct.

2) Image posting is LOW tech but in order to ocr it (especially on a large scale) you need HIGH tech. So, with little effort you can jam the agencies' spy efforts.


 No.36536

bumping.


 No.36545

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 No.38264

posting images really is no solution.

it's pretty dumb.

if you don't want the nsa to read your shit then host a private irc on i2p or something like that. there are also people working on decentralized end-to-end encrypted social networking software on top of gnunet and maybe tor/i2p.


 No.39225

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>what is steganography

Hell, we even have a dedicated board.


 No.39261

>>39225

what board?


 No.39295

>>39261

Damn, I thought it was Lainchan. Kill me.


 No.39330

>>35800

>That's why posting using images only is schway

>implying they don't do OCR over any text in images

>implying maymays with their big fonts aren't perfect for this shit


 No.39331

>>35800

Apparently OP is too much of a shazbot to know about Project Naptha


 No.39415

not sure if OP is trolling or really this retarded.

probably a christian who denies the existence of AI.


 No.39471

>>39415

If AI was that good, CAPTCHAS would be completely useless


 No.39476

>>39415

>probably a christian who denies the existence of AI

*tips cyberfedora*


 No.39481

>>39471

Many of them are worthless. The ones that aren't worthless are ones that are too expensive for spammers to compute.

If you have a bigger defense budget than the rest of the world put together then it's not much of an issue.


 No.39564

Why do you care if the NSA catalogs your data if all you do is post on imageboards?

I'm not saying it's ok for them to snoop on you I'm saying why go to all that bother when you're not even being monitored by them? Like if you were guilty of cyber crimes on a continuing basis then yeah you should take precautions but for your average poster why bother?


 No.39625

> their face when said data is mostly non-text and therefore unsearchable/useless

Doubt it. OCR exists. They can scan audio for voice IDs. Facebook is VERY good at identifying a person in a photo, so I'm sure the NSA could handle that.


 No.39629

just encrypt your shit.

>>39471

>If AI was that good, CAPTCHAS would be completely useless

it is.

remember when that troll company hired halfchanners to solve recaptcha for their botnet but in public they claimed they built an AI that solved 90% of captchas?

(at least that's how i imagine the story went)

google wanted to do that too so they built a real AI that could solve captchas at 99.8%.

www.zdnet.com/article/google-algorithm-busts-captcha-with-99-8-percent-accuracy/

that's why they kinda deprecated reCAPTCHA and instead use AI to guess who is a bot and who isn't just like the US uses AI to guess which mobile phone to send a drone at.


 No.39956

That's why twitter did it right. They made fashionable the use of metadata tags. And now everyone else is following, including facebook.

In a future, the odd image with no hashtags will be looked in derision and some subcontracted indian will tag it invisibly for you.

The solution is not to use neither twitter nor facebook nor google.


 No.39962

Isn't Google worse than all of that?




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