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 No.37199

How can we be sure that what we perceive is real if our senses are subject to the inherent bias of our organic systems?

Even use technology to record a moment for example, leads to the same problem. While a non-edited/manipulated recording would be a definitive memory of sorts (in contrast to our reconstructive memory), the only way to evaluate, observe and perceive such is still using our senses, which makes everything subject to the same bias. Wh is to say that other beings wouldn't perceive the world with a different bias (and thus in a different way)?

Now imagine, how would it would work out with a machine that doesn't have a reconstructive memory, allowing her to pick and mix events as it best fit her?

 No.37211

>>37199

>How can we be sure that what we perceive is real if our senses are subject to the inherent bias of our organic systems?

This is basically Immanuel Kant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel_Kant

Just read the first paragraph and you'll immediately see the similarities of what you've said and much of Kant's work.

I'm not quite sure I understand your final question though.


 No.37213

>>37199

That cat/person looked so cute.


 No.37218

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>>37213

I-It's not like I wanted to be noticed by you or anything, U-User.


 No.37234

>>37199

Plato's Cave.

A bunch of people are chained up in a cave (or in The Matrix, that movie was basically Plato's Cave with explosions), and the only thing they see are the shadows cast by a fire behind them. They can't see the fire, nor can they see anything other than the shadows, so they assume the shadows are the real world.

If someone breaks out of those chains, and gets out of the cave, and tries to explain the outside world to the people inside? He's considered insane.

Of course, there's a reason that the people in the cave assume that their world is the real one. If you try to live on the assumption that none of what you see, feel, or experience is real, then you end up paralyzed because you can't figure out what is real. Thus, you end up being unable to function as you try to plan for the event that your computer is actually a cactus.


 No.37251

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>>37199

>How can we be sure that what we perceive is real if our senses are subject to the inherent bias of our organic systems?

We have no good reason to be confident that we perceive reality. Every idea of reality that we generate could be deceptive, and we must be ready to throw it away at a moment's notice.


 No.37259

>>37211

>>37234

>quoting old ass dead fuckers over science

Niggers this video is old as fuck, the technology to reconstruct images from brain activity its getting better every day

Now they can even pull video from your memory rather than a live feed like that cat, though if your memory is shit then the video quality its going to be shit as well


 No.37302

>>37213

It looked spooky to me.

>>37259

And where are said updates then?


 No.37314

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 No.37319

>>37314

>thinks the human body is not a system

Poor reading comprehension or just another case of English not being your native language.


 No.37324

>>37259

I'm not him, but you do realise that science wouldn't exist without philosophy, right?

Besides that, he was responding to a matter of philosophy that the OP brought up, and Kant is one of the most influential thinkers in philosophy.

I don't think you quite got the OP, man


 No.37374

>>37324

Everything is constructed. "Reality" is manufactured. Think about it. What are letters?

Letters are just a ton of little pictures that your brain recognizes as an idea. The only reason you understand "a" to be "a" is because some dead fuckers tons of years ago made it up.

Language is also manufactured, which means that all higher thought is fabricated.


 No.37428

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


 No.37456

Is that cat going to be ok?


 No.37477

>>37199

ohhhh

very spooky at the end.




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