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 No.37654

Hello friends.

If any of you are planning to do anything that lives up to the /cyber/ dream of raiding corporate facilities, you need some serious kit and planning. One of the tools I've found exceedingly useful is the illustrious compound, thermite. It can be used for melting security fences, sabotaging equipment (cameras/computers/you name it), and anything that requires destruction or heating. It's also fairly quiet for what it does.

So, if you're looking into how to get your hands on some, here's a basic guide to creating it at home.

Thermite is actually a name for many different mixtures, all made up of two parts: A reactive metal and a metal oxide. It works by a simple redux reaction that swaps the oxidation to the reactive metal, releasing a shit ton of heat in the process.

Realistically, the only metal you should use for the reactive metal is Aluminum. It works well, and is readily available.

For the oxide, you have two common options: Copper (II) Oxide, and Iron (III) Oxide. Copper ignites at a lower temperature, meaning charges made with it are easier to light, but in my experience Iron makes a more reliable reaction.

Now, to prepare the Thermite itself, you want to have these chemicals in the finest powder you can get them in, then mix them together, with a proportion of ~2/3-3/4 Oxide and ~1/4-1/3 reactant. Precision isn't required here.

To light, you'll need something hotter than a match to do it. As stated previously, Copper Oxides also start the reaction easier. You can light a strip of Magnesium or use a sparkler to light charges reliably.

Also, make sure to be wearing a glove to prevent burning yourself, and shield your eyes adequately.

Last thing is acquisition of materials. Powdered aluminum is actually what's inside an Etch-A-Sketch, so if you can find one of those lying around you're set. Alternatively, you can just grind down some aluminum. Copper Oxide is possible to create at home by just heating Copper in an oxygen atmosphere until it oxidizes. Iron (III) Oxide, on the other hand, is very hard to get pure. You can get it from a chemical supplier, but that can look suspicious, and be an unwanted paper trail.

Thanks for reading, pyrotechnic responsibly, and feel free to share other effective chemicals/equipment itt.

 No.37666

>the illustrious compound, thermite

CWC reference?


 No.37671

>>37654

10/10 keep up the good work

only effective thing i came up is dispersing large amounts of lsd in corporate HVAC and watch the terror unveil


 No.37686

>>37666

Not intentionally

>>37671

Shit, you can aerosolize LSD?


 No.37690

>>37654

Here's a good place you can get all your materials from, if you're willing to buy that is.

https://unitednuclear.com/


 No.37696

>>37690

Just checked out this site. I'm impressed by the variety and price point. Good job, cyberanon.


 No.37698

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I stole some powdered aluminum & copper from my work today. Thanks OP, gonna try making some


 No.37719

>>37654

Last time I checked, you make thermite with Iron Oxide (rust) only or else shit goes wrong and you lose a hand.

Your idea of using copper oxide would work, but sounds very fucking dangerous. The whole point of using Iron Oxide is that you won't light it on accident. I'm sure you can spare a Magnesium ribbon and a cheap ass poor fag torch if you're planning to raid a corpcucking facility.

Thanks for spreading the word though OP. I hope these fags don't cheap out and fuck themselves over.


 No.37720

>>37671

>>37686

>Shit, you can aerosolize LSD?

Oh boy, the thought of doing things with a hallucinogen is making me schway already.

LSD is a very potent liquid. Simply touching it to your skin in an undilluted form will give you an Acid trip. That's actually how the psychadelic effects of LSD were discovered. Most people doing acid either drop it very very lightly onto a sheet of papers for ingestion, or they dillute the fuck out of it with water. Even if you couldn't make LSD into a breathable vapor on it's own, you could just mix it with something more easily vaporized, like water, and use that instead.

Just know, if you only microdose them, you've basically just made them slightly more creative and alert.

I guess another major issue would be that LSD is hard as fuck to find. Th|e Oni|on Ro|uter helps, but it'd be easier to just buy a bunch of morning-glory seeds and make some LSA. That's right, morning-glory as in the flower. Make sure you buy them without the toxic coating on them.

My personal recc would be to use DMT instead, since it'll knock them off their feet and make opening their eyes pretty spooky. I think it might be a bit harder to disperse though, and it'll only last a few hours, so maybe not as schways as LSD.

This is all purely hypothetical though. I don't endorse any illegal activity. Please take me off the watchlist.


 No.37724

>>37719

OP here. Yeah, as I said, Iron is a much more stable reaction. Essentially what can happen with copper is that because it burns so fast, it can suddenly heat air pockets within the charge to such a degree that the air expands from heat so fast it acts like a very low yield explosion.

The explosion isn't that dangerous unless you aren't wearing eye protection. But, it will blow away a lot of thermite and potentially ruin the charge.

So, to avoid, make sure the charge is mixed evenly and thoroughly or don't use Copper.


 No.37737

OP, you promise this won't explode on me? Or release toxic fumes or give me cancer, or melt my hands or some shit?

Can anyone confirm and post pics/webm?


 No.37740

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>>37654

>dream of raiding corporate facilities, you need some serious kit and planning.

Okay, seriously, what is the exact motivation for "raiding"?

1 - We are stupid teenagers who break laws for thrills.

2 - We want to sabotage this corporation because we hate it.

3 - We want to steal useful information and then make it look like 1 or 2.

4 - We want to kill somebody.

I'm not clear what is meant by "raid." Normally when real-life people say "raid," they mean one or more residents at a location is going to get killed.

>One of the tools I've found exceedingly useful is the illustrious compound, thermite.

I would find it easy to believe that you have made thermite at home or at school, and you have burned thermite somewhere inconspicuous - perhaps an abandoned junkyard.

I find it difficult to believe that you have used thermite to inflict a meaningful "raid" on a corporation.


 No.37741

>Lurking >>37690 's site

>find the following

>http://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=27_82

Anyone know how they make these?

If we can make our own, could we make fucking laser guns. Skip right past cyberpunk and straight into Space Sci-Fi


 No.37742


 No.37743


 No.37745

>>37743

>>37742

Is there anything that can stop it?

Anything that would also take a small explosion?

Anything that we could form a hollow tube out of?


 No.37746

>>37745

I don't think so. In The Sarah Connor Chronicles they used thermite to destroy a terminator chassis.

So it's safe to assume that it's the most powerful substance on this planet.


 No.37747

>In a fictional book they used thermite to destroy a fictional robot.

Either the authors are extremely dedicated to scientific accuracy or there is possibly another solution.

Emphasis on possibly


 No.37748

>>37747

Hell, maybe it's something we haven't even discovered yet


 No.37749

Now hold on a second…

in >>37742 the cement block lasted for a bit. As I gave away, I have an idea for a thermite weapon. Pic related is a basic idea of the shell, a thin layer of cement (Dgray) or some other material carrying the thermite (Lgray), while the copper(Yellow-Orange), or similar metal, is there to keep the thermite from exploding prematurely in the gun and to keep the cement from popping a hole. The fuse (Dbrown) is started by something in the gun, possibly mag ribbons. The light gray is some thin, flammable strip of material that will burn when the thermite has started just to keep if from spilling out. Or we could use an even thinner coat of cement on that bit. Any /k/ommando's and /eng/ineers know if this would work? Or am I going full fantasy now?

Also, anyone got any info on nano-thermite

and the dynamic gas-phase condensation method of producing nano aluminum particles?

Saw something about it on wikijewdia, couldn't find anything on the method itself


 No.37750

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>>37749

Forgot pic and actual shell bits of the ammo.

Black is gunpowder.


 No.37754

>>37750

Proximity charge is probably the best bet. You want to splash whatever you aim at with the thermite so it does the most damage/is most difficult to dodge. I believe that there was a thermite shell used in WW2 by the Germans as an anti-aircraft weapon, but I'm not 100% sure.

Proximity sensors could be done in a number of ways. Laser, radar, ultrasonic all work. I think there's a sensor for the Arduino, ultrasonic, costs about 2 bucks. Depending on the placement of the sensor, you might be able to use it as an airbursting thermite round.

Just remember that the range on those sensors is a little wonky. They're kinda imprecise for further distances from what I've seen. Probably decent enough for you like needs.

Further, you need to factor in the need to have the Mg ribbon alight, so you should set two distances, one to ignite the ribbon and one to detonate a spreader charge. Just make sure they're close enough together that the heat from the thermite won't have time to fry the sensors. This will take some trial-and-error engineering, but I'm sure you can figure it out.


 No.37775

Here's some useful pdfs. There's some thermite ones in there. Not used any of them so I can't swear by them but I'm sure if you have half a brain and some dedication you can make all kinds of things work.

https://murdercube.com/files/Explosives%20&%20Incendiaries/

Many other subjects on the rest of the site

https://murdercube.com/files/

>>37741

I don't know how you make it but they sell all the parts and some instructions. I don't think it's much more than a toy though. I mean it works but it's not mobile unless you want to cart it round on wheels with the batteries.

>>37740

Personally I'm not interested in raiding corporations, I just like collecting and disseminating information. One day it might be useful.


 No.37805

>>37654

I would like to say that iron oxide wouldn't look too suspicious to buy. It's actually used in the cosmetic industry to add colour to stuff so an excuse involving cosmetics (e.g; you're a tranny making your own makeup) will work.


 No.37809

Would finely shredding aluminium foil work or am I just being too stupid?


 No.37831

>>37809

You trying to make chaff?


 No.37883

Would it work with iron(II) oxide?


 No.37924

>>37883

I've only ever used rust. I don't think it'll work though. Needs more oxygen than FeO can bring to the table. Why not just use rust, though? It's not like it's hard to get.


 No.38048

Not one for posting, but this thread is relevant to my datalinks.

Grant Thompson is about as schway as you can get with science without seeming like a Hatter.

Por exemplo, you take this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSD9gYgVuvE

And fill it full of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUYxk-y-tU8

Molded with air pockets (I find a water balloon just barely inflated helpful that aspect) in something like the small toy capsules from vending machines.

The final step for exploding sling ammo is to slip on of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duoxvqxASak attached to outside of the Candy. For a more anti-personnel flavor, you simply use different sizes of whatever capsules, and fill the second with caltrops or shrapnel. Make sure you can hook the electric ignition up to some sort of walkie talkie signal instead of a wire.

You can also check out his "Ninja Balls" that you can fill with a Non-Newtonian fluid for some pretty surprising damage.


 No.38068

guys i been thinking 3d printed guns a fairly cyber right so i been wondering when 3d printers are a pleb price should i add them to my tools of trade?


 No.38082

>>38068

Go to a rich town's or city's library. Sometimes they have 3d printers there. Use the printer to print your own printer. Or just go scavenge parts from old hardware and dumpster shit.


 No.38085

>>38068

Yeah definitely but the thing about 3d printed guns is they're shit. They only fire a few shots before the barrel breaks. Somebody recently created a 3d printer that prints carbon fiber and I think Defense Distributed have got there hands on it so they'll be able to strengthen their design considerably.

But I don't think 3d printed guns will be able to compete with regular guns until select laser sintering (SLS) or select inhibition sintering (SIS) becomes more affordable, if they ever do. A company recently printed a 1911 pistol using SLS to make every part if I remember correctly, including the barrel. But SLS is an expensive, messy and dangerous process.

http://www.3ders.org/articles/20141111-metal-3d-printing-soon-affordable-new-selective-inhibition-sintering-process.html


 No.38092

>>38085

You can 3d print a lower reciever for an AR15 and just order the rest online. Totally legal, easy to do. The lower doesn't need to be that tough, since it doesn't take much stress when firing.


 No.38106

>>38092

That's true though not where I live in the UK.

I've always found the whole controversy about 3d printed guns in America funny. It's not a new thing there, people have had the right to build their own guns since forever. If 3d printing can come up with some decent weapons easily printable from home it will be a game changer around the world. Technology truly is a great equaliser.


 No.38108

>>38092

>>38085

jamesrpatrick.com/p/pm522-washbear-3d-printed-22lr-pistol.html


 No.38110

>>38108

Thank you kind User!


 No.39172

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>37654

> Powdered aluminum is actually what's inside an Etch-A-Sketch

It won't work you shazbot (video related).

Next time make some actual research and don't learn stuff from stupid unrealistic TV shows you idiot.


 No.39193

Is this thread average for /cyber/ or is it all an elaborate troll making fun of Instructables or something because lmao what is this shit




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