No.38304
I am seriously considering hosting /cyber/ by myself
Reasons for doing so:
1. Josh (infinitechan dev) announced that the migration to infinite 2.0 failed, and that the next time we switch, everything after december 18th will not be saved. If this is the case, then there's really no difference between that and switching to a completely new site besides the URL (assuming the new site uses infinity next).
2. The way the site is run and general non responsiveness from the administration is frustrating, and I feel like I can do a better job by myself.
3. The current site is a broken mess, and won't be fixed any time soon.
—————
I'm aware that taking such an extreme action would fracture the already small userbase, but at this rate, I'm very pessimistic about the future of 8chan. We've been waiting for fixes a long time, and what we get is mostly silence from the administrator. Over the last year I've donated around 300 dollars to keep this site up and help development, but the rate of change and lack of communication is frustrating.
No.38318
>>38304
No, you're absolutely right. That's a brilliant idea. I'm going to elaborate on why I think it's a good idea;
>this board will be separated from 8chan to its own site
>nothing changes
>frequent development
>faster servers
>less fuckups (ideally, what's your experience programming?)
>a lot of our traffic is skids thinking they're cyber but are just on holiday/weekend break so a change in address will eliminate most of that useless traffic
At the moment I'm only seeing plus sides. Maybe you can make the amber theme everyone loves so much as the default theme too (being honest, the original theme is ugly a/f)
No.38322
>>38318
This.
And if I can be frank, let users create new threads, instead of pumping up older ones. AFAIK/IMO, it's killing new users from integrating with our ecosystem.
No.38324
>>38322
It's only killing the lazy new users, which I think is good.
They can't even bother reading a thread because it's too long.
No.38325
Will there be other cyberpunk related boards?
No.38337
I like the idea. Things I would like to see in NeoCyber: more mods, less spam, a mirror on Tor and i2p, amber theme :^)
No.38340
>>38337
NeoCyber actually sounds cool as a name
No.38346
>>38325
probably just /cyber/ and /random/.
I'm also a big fantasy fan and there aren't any good boards on the internet devoted to that, but that's a project for another time.
>>38318
>less fuckups (ideally, what's your experience programming?)
not enough. I'm going to try to enlist some help from people I know who have more experience than me in webhosting.
>>38337
I really like amber theme, and no matter what happens, migration or not, I will be changing the default to amber soon (by the end of this month when infinity next is finalized and css stops being fucked up)
No.38351
The real question is whether it will run on Lisp.
>>38318
I don't see how seceding from 8ch would mean faster servers. Also
>nothing changes
>frequent development
Pick one. Good call on the CSS though, this is awful. Amber wouldn't be a bad default as long as I can still get an ebin dark as my soul theme.
No.38355
Join group 3 on tox for further discussions
passcode is schway
>>38304
100% agree, I would love a separate site. Also, good on you for donating, I too, thought that 8chan had a lot of potential.
I think we need to find a good balance between
>>38322
this
>>38324
and this.
We also need to start introducing more people to /cyber/. But not just shill the site willy-nilly all over the place. If you know anyone that you think will have interest in the site, and the concept of cyberpunk, without shitting up the content, tell them about it.
The current IRC is dead as a droid btw, which just says something about the population of cyber.
>>38337
>mirror on Tor and i2p
If this actually happens I swear I'll start pumping out some shitty oekaki for /cyber/ at least once every 2 weeks. I would love a mirror on either or both, although I assume it's pretty difficult.
btw hosting an eepsite is super easy. not sure about a mirror though
Also am I the only one that likes the current CSS…
I wouldn't mind amber though.
Use the QR code on the side if anyone wants to add me on tox. We can throw some ideas around in the group chat or on IRC (#cyber on rizon)
No.38356
>>38355
almost forgot to add
I have a particular liking for I2P because it is slightly hard to set up (not really). This means that it weeds out idiots who know nothing about simple technology.
also, we can host an IRC through I2P, making it twice as schway.
No.38357
>>38304
What about Lainchan? That is infinity based chan with /cyber/ and /tech/ culture.
https://lainchan.org/
No.38358
>>38357
Too much drama (there's several threads that provide the details)
No.38359
>>38357
:\
Lainchan's community is good. I just don't agree with the way it's run.
No.38361
Disagree. Being on 8chan gave us publicity in the first place (board listings and such)– we'd die out pretty quick if we left it.
However, if we did do a switch– it'd be nice to have multiple cyberpunk boards.
/culture/ (99c ramen noodles and the anonymous masks they sell at Hot Topic)
/genre/ (bladerunner circlejerk)
/art/ (cityscape circlejerk)
/tech/ (hardware)
/wares/ (software)
No.38363
>>38361
Yeah I'm quite torn between staying and leaving. I feel like we should wait and see if 8ch gains popularity again, but by then it might be too late.
I think it's good to at least toy around with the possibility of migrating.
No.38364
>>38304
How can I contact you for getting some hosting set up?
Figuring you just want to fork off of vichan/tinyboard yes?
I'm in a position to get some free hosting space at a data center with gigabit upload.
No.38372
>>38357
That place smells of decadence. There is a huge problem when people are getting focused on the identities of the users rather than the content. Everywhere that does that is the same.
No.38373
>>38351
What I mean is virtually nothing changes. Of course when development happens shit changes.
No.38375
>>38361
> Being on 8chan gave us publicity in the first place (board listings and such)– we'd die out pretty quick if we left it.
One of the things I am most dissapointed in hotwheels about is his lack of interest in growing the smaller communities on 8chan. His removal of the top boards really hurt every board that isn't /v/, /n/ or /pol/.
>However, if we did do a switch– it'd be nice to have multiple cyberpunk boards.
What I eventually plan on doing is to modify vichan to allow users to tag their threads, similar to 1chans software. Instead of separate boards, there will be one board where users can select or filter topics they want to see. Tech posts get tagged as #tech, fiction posts get tagged as #fiction, science posts get tagged as #science and so on. I'm going to ask marktaiwan (the guy who I commissioned to make the post hiding and tripfag filter on 8chan) how feasable this is on vichans software).
Another upgrade I'd like to see done is user notifications when your post/thread has been replied to.
>>38364
Thanks for the offer, but it will be a while before I can actually begin hosting. All of this stuff will take me around a month to set up, I think. I need to wait for my yearly bonus too, before I start thinking about the financials.
No.38376
>Make our own chan
>Have autistic fun
>if it dies, we go back to 8chan with next/8chan with now/nttpchan/69chan
Don't see why not if you have the brozouf
>>38340
Schwaychan?
Deckchan?
No.38381
>>38375
Here's an other suggestion that is miniscule but might have a great impact: intergrate into the site a system like "appchan x", but for us. Seems stupid but mascots are a nice option to have.
No.38382
>>38376
What about dystopianow.xyz? I bought the domain for a year and I'd happily give it to the board owner for free. XYZ domains are cheap as.
No.38384
>>38375
>I need to wait for my yearly bonus too, before I start thinking about the financials.
Like I said, I've actually acquired some free rack space at a data center. It's not like I'd charge you.
I ran an imageboard for a year and a half with a vichan build.
No.38385
>>38384
>>38382
>>38375
Now you have to do it, it all works out too perfectly not to
頑張りなさい, chummers
No.38390
>>38385
That's the spirit.
I feel like I have a lot to clarify to the board owner though. Because I'm sure my own offer seems extremely out of the blue. But I very much have my reasons and /cyber/ is just the type of board that I think can thrive as a splinter chan.
No.38394
>>38376
Well, I still think NeoCyber is better, schwaychan sounds kinda forced and deckchan sounds too neutral for the theme
No.38396
>>38394
neoCyber.tokyo
fuck yea
No.38397
>>38396
get your weebpunk outta here
No.38406
http://hambubger.com/ is a functional demo of lynxchan if anyone is interested in moving beyond muh PHP.
I was planning on setting up a shadowrun-themed chan for tech, cyber, and programming; but that's a ways off atm.
No.38408
>>38406
>shadowrun-themed chan
FUND IT
No.38410
shadowrun is fantasy weeaboo crap
can we actually have real cyber please
No.38415
Dear Owner,
I first stumbled onto here in august 2014, and found the discussion among other schway individuals to be some of the most fun ive ever had on imageboards. It'd be great to have a very dedicated userbase who understands the necessity of keeping a tight knit community together to power such a chan, and I'd just like to say; i'm all for it!
No.38416
>>38408
gonna need $12,000 first
gotta work on dat software
No.38419
Hey oyabun, if you're taking /cyber/ off 8chan, are you going to consider an alternative format?
Personally, I've a liking for the forum-format. The issue with most forums is that they look terrible and it hurts your brain to look at, but I'm sure you can do it well enough. Freely available bases exist to make it easier on the back-end.
To me it'd seem like a wasted opportunity otherwise. Anonymity is overrated.
No.38425
>>38419
formus are soooo 2005
No.38426
>>38419
>Anonymity is overrated.
Do you even /cyber/?
No.38428
>>38419
> Anonymity is overrated
found the FBI shill
No.38429
Ｔｈｉｓ ｉｓ ａｎ ａｔｒｏｃｉｏｕｓ ｉｄｅａ． Ｙｏｕ＇ｒｅ ｊｕｓｔ ｇｏｉｎｇ ｔｏ ｆｒａｇｍｅｎｔ ｔｈｅ ｃｏｍｍｕｎｉｔｙ ｅｖｅｎ ｆｕｒｔｈｅｒ ｂｅｔｗｅｅｎ ｌａｉｎｃｈａｎ， ８ｃｈ， ／ｒ／ｃｙｂｅｒｐｕｎｋ （ｉｆ ａｎｙｏｎｅ ｈｅｒｅ ｉｓ ａｃｔｕａｌｌｙ ｐｌｅｂ ｅｎｏｕｇｈ ｔｏ ｇｏ ｔｈｅｒｅ）， ｔｈｅ ＣＣＦ， ａｎｄ ｎｏｗ ｔｈｉｓ ｎｅｗ ｃｙｂｅｒｃｈａｎ． Ｉ ｈａｖｅ ｎｏ ｉｎｔｅｎｔｉｏｎ ｔｏ ｌｅａｖｅ ８ｃｈａｎ ｆｏｒ ａｎ ｅｖｅｎ ｓｍａｌｌｅｒ ｂｏａｒｄ． Ｈｏｔｗｈｅｅｌｓ ｗｉｌｌ ｅｖｅｎｔｕａｌｌｙ ｐｕｌｌ ｔｈｒｏｕｇｈ ｏｎ ｔｈｅ ｓｉｔｅ， ｈｅ ｈａｓ ｔｏ － ｉｔ＇ｓ ａｌｌ ｈｅ ｈａｓ．
No.38430
>>38429
to be fair, lainchan is dead and /r/cyberpunk is more like /r/cityscapes
CCF are pretty much dead, too. Still, I think that trying to split /cyber/ and cyberchan will result in split communities– both of which will fail atrociously.
No.38432
>>38429
>Ｈｏｔｗｈｅｅｌｓ ｗｉｌｌ ｅｖｅｎｔｕａｌｌｙ ｐｕｌｌ ｔｈｒｏｕｇｈ ｏｎ ｔｈｅ ｓｉｔｅ， ｈｅ ｈａｓ ｔｏ － ｉｔ＇ｓ ａｌｌ ｈｅ ｈａｓ．
I'll be more convinced when he has done something to help out the smaller boards on the site like implement a board watcher. Even if we get a new software, 8ch will still stagnate until HW starts caring again. His removal of the topbar really hurt every board that isn't the three top ones. He used to feature boards on the site but stopped because of goon whining.
I have no feith at all in the admin of this site if he removes important site features because he can't stand up to goons.
No.38433
>>38428
Nobody's really anon. Might as well use the social functionality of attribution.Nobody posts here without a whole bunch of shit protecting them on their end and expecting to be truly anonymous.
>>38426
Attribution is cyber as fuck. How else do you make a name for yourself in the sprawl? Calling people by their handle is cyber as fuck.
Like this shazbot right here
>>38429
They type that shit so that they're easily identifiable besides the effect.
>>38425
/cyber/ is so 1984.
No.38434
>>38433
back to /r/cyberpunk with you, redditor
No.38438
>>38432
Nobody here uses 8chanx?
No.38441
hotwheels stopped caring a while ago
No.38452
>>38438
I love you anon, thank you for helping me discover this. Makes my images a bit big though.
No.38457
>>38375
I saw an imageboard engine that used tags instead of boards, basically a one board where all threads are tagged. There was also a few interesting engines. I can find them again if you would want non-vichan engine.
No.38459
>>38376
>69chan
That tiny chan with kid admin? How about committing suicide?
No.38467
I helped dev the Xchat and CSS for Amber. Would be cool to see it on the site.
I like the default theme a ton though - PLEASE, PLEASE include both. I'll work on another one, too.
I run /occult/ and I've been looking for a faster home for it. Would you allow me to add my board there? An occult+neocyber board combination would be pretty cool and esoteric.
No.38468
>>38452
Can't seem to get it to work. :/
No.38501
>>38468
I had the issue too, restart your browser as soon as you install it and then go to options. Click just below the 8chanx's cross button. Don't hit the cross button because that uninstalls it. Then get a mascot and paste the URL into the bar.
No.38502
>>38382
Not bad, though, doesn't sound quite "cyber".
>>38419
Just keep it as anonymous image board.
>>38433
>Attribution is cyber as fuck. How else do you make a name for yourself in the sprawl? Calling people by their handle is cyber as fuck.
You don't. You leave it as anon, and anons know which anon is which. There's no need for attribution, because every post an anon makes is an individual and not part of a whole history. And if you really want that shit go to /cuteboys/ (or any general thread) and just from writing styles you can tell who's who. See: Penguinanon (if he still posts). Look at assbro, shazbots start to tell other shazbots apart from minors differences. An anon once recognized him just from a mole on his back. Also anonymity goes a LONG motherfucking way to stop drama whoring
>>38467
Never heard of /occlult/, schway board though
>>38459
>kid admin
Wait seriously?
Shitty GIMP unrelated
No.38505
>>38502
>assbro
I would like to know how he got his name and if there's pictures around of what I'm thinking there is.
No.38551
>>38505
>assbro
>I would like to know how he got his name
He has a nice ass
>and if there's pictures around of what I'm thinking there is.
If you mean porn
>go to /cuteboys/
>ask for assbro pics
>???
>profit
Otherwise, I have no clue
No.38598
not op
decided to make a /cyber/ site since all of the current ones suck. got the domain, got the webhost, etc.
im not so sure a chan is the best idea though. why would a cyberchan be more successful than here or lainchan?
what possible alternatives should I consider?
No.38627
>>38598
no one here is going to use it if it's not an imageboard
No.38636
>>38627
once again
the idea of "cyberpunk imageboard" has failed numerous times
no point in making another one
No.38637
>>38636
then fuck off, shazbot
No.38638
>>38627
>>38637
> comes into thread about /cyber/ alternative
> gets mad when someone suggests /cyber/ alternative
No.38639
No.38640
No.38650
Really not interested in going to your own shitty cyber offshoot.
No.38670
>>38650
>>38639
gtfo, new lusers
No.38679
>>38598
If you make an actual Cyber imageboard. I'll use it as my new homepage.
Lainchan feels like its going down the drain, and our board here on 8chan feels compacted. It's difficult to cover a lot of ideas on a single board where lainchan has the advantage.
No.38680
http://penumbra.network/
This will be your new home if 8chang dies.
CSS still needs a lot of work
No.38683
>>38680
>lord Linus on the front page
This is alright. Nice work chummer
No.38693
Schway idea, I would totally jump into a better ship
No.38727
>>38679
>>38693
if we're going to talk about a cyber imageboard, we need to know how/why this is going to actually work, moreso than the shitty failed attempts others have made
No.38728
>>38727
branch out beyond just straight /cyber/
it's a niche interest but it can tie in with a lot of other things
No.38750
>>38727
Because we're so cool.
No.38791
purchase and/or collaborate with owner of megachan & crank that bad baby up again
they and a few tumblrs were the only true cyberpunk presence on the internet
(notice how everyone whines about how dead things smell lately?)
that's why
btw - megachan shut down simply because owner had no backups & server went down
>totally legit is a paranoid world
No.38818
>>38406
>requires nodejs and mongodb
i was gonna start my own chan, and those are two things i wish to stay away from. vichan seems functional and its just normal php and mysql/mariadb. lainchan is a good example of that, even though they run their own modified version
No.38819
>>38818
whats wrong with node and mongo?
No.38820
>>38819
i personally have little experience and dont use them. im sure i could get used to them but i would rather throw down my normal apache and mysql
No.38821
>>38820
lynxchan is dead simple to set up and node and mongo are both easy to use
also
>apache
>not nginx
No.38824
>>38821
i dont like compiling nginx (if thats how you add mods)
No.38854
Lainchan already exists.
We should consolidate there.
No.38862
How about a black on white Windows 1.0 theme?
No.38864
No.38870
>>38854
lainchan is dead and they don't want new people
try joining their IRC and you'll get shit on instantly
No.38871
>>38821
whats with this dislike of lainchan? i like it, whats everyones grudge?
No.38888
>>38854
lainchan is full of macbook posers who wouldn't know how to install GNU/Linux if you handed them a debian iso. Do not recommend.
No.38889
>>38888
come on, dont be so salty. i find its good
No.38891
>>38889
lainchan seems alright, but I'm worried about the spastic who runs it. He seems to flip out fairly regularly and likes to mock his users. I just don't think an admin should be doing that.
No.38895
>>38891
do you have a source or archive? im new to lainchan and 8chan so i have never heard that before.
No.38896
>>38895
http://pastebin.com/search?q=kalyx
http://pastebin.com/t73HmCFY
https://lainchan.org/donate
>Sometimes I spend the donation brouzouf on food when i'm starving. I transfer all donations into, and keep them as brouzouf.
>I have to pay the bill for my Macbook too sometimes
Someone said the brouzouf thing was just a joke, which I can believe. It's getting really close to josh-tier shitting-on-your-users behavior though.
http://jinteki.industries/kalyx.html
http://jinteki.industries/hall_of_shazbotry.html
I remember he flipped out a while back over people not spoilering porn. So he plastered porn over the top of every page.
All in all he just doesn't seem like someone I want running a site I use a lot.
No.38904
>>38896
the community seems to be fine. i didnt understand what happened in the kaylx videopage or the one it linked too (the other one you posted 404ed). as for kaylx i wasnt aware of any of this before…
No.38907
>hall_of_shazbotry.html
:^)
No.38913
No.38914
>>38913
Ugh replace shazbotry with F A G G O T R Y
No.38917
>>38914
i still have no clue what was going on. care to explain?
No.38921
>>38870
No it's not, and that is the exact kind of attitude that helps communities along to their death. I hope you change your attitude.
>>38888
There are people like that anywhere, and I chose not to engage with them. Still, I have seen very few like that on lainchan,
>>38891
He isn't the best person but the site seems to run well and he interacts with the community and adds new features.
No.38922
Would you delete /cyber/ afterwards? Im okay with migrating if this stays.
No.38923
>>38921
did he dick up the css deliberately?
No.38924
>>38921
did he dick up the css deliberately?
No.38925
BTW, I got HTTPS on https://penumbra.network/ now
Still working on the javascript and a some css, but I think it's looking good if people don't want 12kchan and the floating reply box that you cant get rid of or lainchan and the bipolar admin
No.38951
This jintek guy is on some endless crusade against kalyx cause he was asked what his email address was so kalyx can help him with something. This is a special type of aspergers he has.
a n d h e t h i n k i t ' s c o o l t o t y p e l i k e t h i s .
No.38952
>>38951
jinteki uses fullwidth unicode characters, get it right nigger
by 'help him' I think you meant he wanted links to lainchan on jinteki.industries and for 8/cyber/ to be deleted
No.38955
>>38952
how does jintek's cock taste?
No.38959
>>38955
like monospaced fonts
No.38973
I wouldn't mind a new board that doesn't store everything past page 3 in a catalogue.
No.38982
do it m8, don't let your dream be dream. no seriously do it. Don't be scared by the amount of user you have even if we're 20 people left we'll figured out something to get slightly more user.
I'll be more active in a separate website.
No.38985
there are 2 pedo spams on the front page right now
even lainchan would be better than this shit
No.38988
>>38985
Make it three. FUCKING SORT IT OUT.
No.38989
>>38304
Contact me at assman@420blaze.it
any one else who is interested can as well
fucking broken shit
No.39000
>>38304
I support the idea and plus splitting off and doing your own thing is pretty cyber. I've got a few suggestions though.
1)If we do split off to another site, keep ownership of the 8chan board and sticky a link to the new site. Keeps the community from splitting and I imagine hotwheels would be fine with it. The whole idea is you can do what you want with your own board.
2)Some sort of transparency in moderation and community involvement in running the site. Otherwise it'd just be lainchan2.
3)Cool extras, I bet a lot of people would like stuff like a community radio station of cyber music if you have the bandwidth. Lots of good stuff you can do with a site that you can't on a board.
I'm too broke to help with hosting but I'd be willing to do some development if you're planning on modifying the board software. I was making cryptography plugins for infinity next until josh wet the bed.
No.39006
/tech/ is going to endchan, why don't you guys go too? It even support text-based browser and Tor:
https://endchan.xyz
No.39007
>>39006
I don't know, If I migrate to a new site I wouldn't want to share the site with /pol/ again.
No.39012
>>39007
Your beef with pol?
No.39013
>>39012
See
>>32448
No need for that in the new chan
No.39015
>>39006
endchan doesn't support text browsers, they just happen to work
also no .onion
>>39007
I already shilled my site, no /pol/ btw
The BO here seems to be gone and infinity next is still not working
No.39016
Thanks for all your input. I appreciate it.
A friend and I have begun working on a project to write an imageboard engine from scratch that isn't shitty. While thats happening, I will quietly set up hosting for a new site using something like vichan as a backup in case this site shits the bed somehow.
If the migration is successful and Infinity Next becomes actually usable within a month or two, there will be no need to do anything. If it isn't I already have alternatives.
This thread is now bump locked. for meta discussion, post in the sticky.
>>39006
I don't really trust endchan, and I want the fate of /cyber/ to be determined by it's users.
>>39015
>>38985
I'm still here, but for a while I've been unable to post or even use moderation, getting 404 and cloudflare errors constantly, and deleted posts are still showing up on the front page.
>>39000
>transparency in moderation
In the new board software we are building, we plan on making deleted posts autohided by default. There will be an option to view them. illegal things are still perma deleted though, for legal reasons. I agree strongly that moderation must be transparent and no secrets should be kept from users.
>>38989
thanks for the offer assman, I have already registered the domain nullpo.io, and gettin amazon aws set up soon.
No.39023
>>39016
holy shit thank you so much based BO
No.39024
also, for those who missed it, this is my temporary home:
http://penumbra.network/
No.39025
>>39016
what are you writing it in?
No.39100
>>39025
django, probably.
My temporary board is up. http://nullpo.moe
No.39101
>>39025
django, probably.
My temporary board is up. http://nullpo.moe
No.39144
>>39100
https://github.com/paulmillr/chieftain
Hey consider forking this instead of writing from scratch if you're doing django. It's already pretty solid.
No.39294
Also here's my Tox:
CDEDA69D6C84A3A00C35914DA45A26E225507EC2C39702CDA60382598B03827C2CEED6B1F626