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Semantics User 03/08/16 (Tue) 08:23:11 No.40311
So what exactly is the punk part of cyberpunk? The technical DIY know-how? Rebelling against the system?
Personally, I think that half of the term in under-emphasized.
User 03/08/16 (Tue) 17:07:40 No.40315
It's the rebelling against the system part
technical DIY know-how would fall under the cyber part
User 03/08/16 (Tue) 17:54:34 No.40316
Hmm, perhaps I just need to expose myself to more elements.
For some reason I thought there was more to it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
User 03/08/16 (Tue) 18:05:49 No.40318
>rebelling against the system
Eeh, not really. I mean, look at Gibson's characters, they weren't revolutioners, they were just trying to make a living. System is not The Enemy, it's just force of nature one has to shelter yourself from sometimes.
User 03/08/16 (Tue) 19:26:18 No.40319
it actually comes from co-opting heavy metal rock aesthetics, and the original writers being dirty hippies
the "punk" is a reaction to clean and tidy visions of future sci-fi, trying to take technology in a dystopian and anarchic direction. Personally, I think the works that emphasize it are very tacky
User 03/08/16 (Tue) 19:51:30 No.40320
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>>40319
Interesting. In that context, it makes sense that the "punk" is more of an undertone.
I guess that would go hand-in-hand with the low life aspect, then.
Not that I'm trying to confine the definition of the phrase, just wondering about this lingering influence.
User 03/08/16 (Tue) 20:44:50 No.40321
>>40320
this is one of those academic who-defines-what things so don't pretend I'm god. But the original CYERPUNKS were basically an unsuccessful literary cult centered around gibson who became a talking point for the very successful media presentations of the genre. So even though, it's debatable whether cyberpunks actually created blade runner (they didn't, it was released while the gib was writing neuromancer) and ilk, the ideas tapped into the zeitgeist and made a splash big enough to influence people into self-defining based on the criteria. So it became PUNK because it was dirtier and the defined aesthetic. Funny thing