No.3053
This thread is for questions, comments, concerns regarding the recent change of board ownership and new rules. Please post here instead of making off-topic posts in other threads.
No.3054
what happened?
No.3055
>>3054Old owner abandoned the board so I asked for it.
No.3080
Any rule changes or changes in what is considered "rule breaking"?
No.3091
>>3080Board rules can be found in the blue 'Rules' link in the announcement.
No.3107
Could you still promote
>>>/futa/ as an alternative so /d/?
You know, so /d/ doesn't over run with all mixes of futa and other fetishes.
and so /futa/ doesn't die aswell.
No.3109
>>3107I might be open to promoting other boards, especially on a reciprocal basis, but I think the board-tag system and the board's users are in a better position to do that. We only have ~22 active users and average about 1 post per hour. Even with the redirect and futa posters being forced out of /d/, /futa/ only has ~10 active users and is often listed as having 0 posts per hour. I don't want to see /futa/ die, the mod seems to be doing a good job, but neither do I want to give people the impression that futa is less than welcome here.
Part of the purpose of reallowing futa is to, hopefully, boost the population here and undo some of the damage done by the previous exclusion given time. Looking at half-/d/ I came up with a quick count of ~25% of the threads being about futa, I counted 38 of 150 threads. Obviously there are also futa posts in threads where it's relevant but I have no problem with people specifying they don't want futa in their thread. As it is we obviously don't have too many futa threads and if it becomes an issue I think it can be resolved by limiting the number of threads that are essentially the same and people who don't like futa actually posting threads and content.
Part of the reason I created this thread was actually an anon claiming to be the owner of /futa/ and a few people finally saying something about the change. Unfortunately I had to remove some posts from the current futa thread because we wound up with 5 out of 6 posts being not-futa, which wasn't fair to the OP, and the discussion warranted it's own thread anyways.
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No.3134
I'm a guy that moved from halfchan, especially because of the futa invasion.
I mean, I don't care if people like futa, but it pretty much took over /d/ so I'm sort of bitter about it. Would you at least consider segregating the futa to /futa/ if there's enough complaints? At least be open to it, please.
No.3144
>>3134This isn't to do with futa or anything, but is beastiality allowed? Not as it's own thread, but if images like this fit the subject of one would it be ok to post?
No.3151
>>3134I'm not going to make decisions based on number of complaints or who can complain the loudest. If people can present a well reasoned argument for why specifically something is an issue with good solutions I will consider it. So far anti-futa anons keep complaining that there are 'too many' futa posts, without clarifying what is too many or why it is an issue beyond them simply not liking it, and kicking out a large segment of /d/ posters is not a good solution. As far as I can tell the only thing futa posters are guilty of is having a fetish other people don't like and posting content that fits their fetish in relevant threads, which sounds suspicously like the purpose of /d/.
Segregation to /futa/, even though some people pointed out why it was a bad idea, was tried and failed. The result has been that /d/ lost activity instead of growing, /futa/ is barely hanging on, and /nofuta/ is dead. Usually more general sections of a site have more activity than more niche topics, however /d/ has less activity than boards catering to otherwise tiny communities.
I took another count of half-/d/ and came up with 48 of 148 threads being exclusively for futa, ~33%. Having between a quarter and a third of threads on /d/ being about futa is a lot for one fetish but doesn't strike me as so much that it is preventing other fetishes from having threads. So I decided to take another look and instead counted every thread that was either about futa or had a futa image as the OP, which led me to a count of 67 of 148 threads or about 45%. This leads me to believe that the issue is less there not being threads where you can post something other than futa and more about people who don't like futa not wanting it mixed in with other threads.
I can see where if you don't want to see any futa at all that might be an issue. What I don't quite understand is why anti-futa posters seem to feel they can't just create their own threads without futa or post more non-futa content. The reason there is so much futa is because of people making futa threads and posting futa content, so why isn't the solution to post more non-futa?
The only real issue I can see as far as futa is concerned is the possibility that by having a thread for every small variation of futa that threads on other topics could be pushed out. If that becomes a real issue I will consider dealing with the problem at that time, but It's not an issue now.
Is there something I'm missing here?
No.3152
>>3144If a post is on-topic and fits within the rules it is allowed.
No.3175
ultra-oldfag from halfchan's /d/ here (started fapping there before the obama presidency). There are a lot of misconceptions about what the futa "menace" was and is, and how (and if) similar issues apply over here.
The problem was never futa itself, but how the futa threads were constructed and the habits in posting in them. Most porn on halfchan tends to be posted in "dumps"- ie, one or a small group of posters with a collection of porn post as much as they have as quickly as possible. So far most threads on this board have followed a similar pattern.
Now, futa on halfchan's /d/ does not follow this pattern. The porn is posted as a trickle, with a few images each day. this is very bad for board health. It will knock newer threads bursting with content off of the board, and it can keep a single thread up for months with only a few new images a day to show for it. Its behaviour that turns a board from a quick, dynamic environment to experience a variety of fetishes into a series of slow blogs. There were even rumors that it was only a few people posting out of some dorm rooms behind the vast majority of the once-a-day bumps, but its been awhile and I dont know enough about network security to independently verify those claims.
I quit halfchan's /d/ last august after the last tentacle thread was slid off the board and i noticed that three futa threads from april were still near the top of the board. If you don't believe me head over there and look at some of the post timers- there's shit from September still up.
the other issue is the proliferation in the number of threads. I understand that there are variations on fetishes, and having a "futa on top" and "futa on bottom" threads are very valid. However, having separate threads for each tiny variation on a fetish is bad, especially in a place with limited space like a chan. A specific "futa caption" thread instead of just posting that shit in the caption thread is unacceptable, as is every single god-damn variation on dick size, ball size, no balls, skin color, ect. it would be like if our current, massive "bad end" thread had different threads for each kind of bondage, monster, the relative bustiness of the girls, ect. that is currently in the same place. if people keep to their own threads, or only make new ones when necessary, there'd be enough space for all kinds of sexual expression, and as deviants we are all too aware of how rare those places are.
in short, i'm OK with futa being allowed here, since the problem was never really futa. The same behavior could fly under the banner of any other fetish and be just as damaging to board culture. Also, the post-rate issue is not likely to be an issue any time soon, simply because of how low of a population we are, but please don't let endless fracturing of a single fetish drive the variety off of the board, regardless of whether that fetish is futa or not.
No.3177
>>3175Thank you for presenting a clear and reasonable assessment of the issue. If any fetish ends up flooding the board with minor variations to the extent it pushes out other fetishes I will deal with it at that time. In fact the rules requiring you post content in your own threads and using existing threads where possible are specifically designed to deal with that type of issue. It is also worth noting that it looks like the thread limit here is ~225 vs the ~148 of half-/d/ so even when our activity goes up it will take that much longer before we have a problem with threads being pushed out.
I'm not entirely sure how to deal with people using a single/few posts to necro-bump a thread that should have died already. Right now people posting in any thread is a good thing, but I can see how it could become a problem.
No.3195
as it currently stands, I don't anticipate a necro problem for quite a while, just due to how slow we are. The only way I could see that changing is if old mootles does something absolutely fucking retarded (which, considering his current behavior, is decently likely) and drives more refugees here.
It may not take much- it is very possible that a single person with some dedicated autism could do a lot of irreprable damage very quickly, especially since "being better moderated than that OTHER /d/" is pretty much our only selling point. What might work would be some sort of Id system so you could tell if it was the same person posting in the same thread day after day, and ban/warn appropriately. If possible, making it visible to mods and the board owner only would avoid a lot of the squeamishness that people have about IDs, but if that's outside what you have the capacity to change a standard ID system might work if people are willing to agree to it.
on an entirely separate note, it might make sense to delete the "/d/ is for dickgirls" subtitle to the board. I had a reflexive wave of panic when I saw that prior to this sticky, because the spammers would repeat that phrase as something between an overused meme and a battlecry when you asked them to stop posting frivolous threads. For a moment I thought that the moderation had been hijacked. I'm relieved to know that this isn't the case, but it might be best to change the subtitle to something with less of a history so that folks won't suspicous of us from the get-go.
No.3212
>>3195>if possible, making it visible to mods and the board owner only would avoid a lot of the squeamishness that people have about IDsBoard owners always have access to thread ID's and a sort of IP-ID in place of the actual IP, as far as I can tell the only option is whether or not everyone can see thread ID's. Banning an individual user spamming the board is pretty straight forward, I was talking more in terms of rules dealing with the general behavior.
>I had a reflexive wave of panic when I saw thatThat seems like a fairly extreme reaction but I'm not overly attached to it so I'll remove it for now.
No.3234
We allowing drawthreads here or what?
No.3238
No.3239
>>3238That's cool, but I do want to make a few suggestions for drawthreads here based on what's happened with /d/rawthreads on 4chan:
I think we need to move away from request-based threads and make it primarily an open "post-what-you've-got" thread, where artists of all skills and mediums can post their work as long as it's /d/.
If artists are open to suggestions, they should post their work, what kind of fetish/subject they're looking for, and/or what they're willing to draw. Other posters can bounce ideas around to willing drawfags rather than flooding the thread with repeated requests until the thread sages. No direct requests either; the artists should have the opportunity to choose from a more diverse range of topics and subjects based on the thread's conversation. That way, we can keep the threads from becoming stale while engaging the userbase with the art creation aspect. Hopefully, the threads will be self-policing.
I'd also recommend that we stick to one and only one drawthread at a time, rather than splitting the thread into a colorthread, a general drawthread, and a single artist thread. That's just redundant and may push other threads off the board.
No.3241
>>3239I'm not a fan of cracking down on something before it becomes an issue. I also don't want to be heavy-handed in dictating the format of threads. That being said I am all for being prepared and there are already rules in place requiring people post content in their own threads and that they use existing threads where possible. Currently enforcement is intentionally somewhat lax because we have plenty of room for the amount of threads we have, but when threads start being pushed out more strictly enforcing those rules will help.
I certainly don't want to see a bunch of threads with no content.
No.3244
>>3241Fair enough. I guess we have to wait for more drawfags and people to get started. I'd like to start one myself, but I've got other things on my plate right now that keeps me from drawing.
No.3249
Discussion of other boards is currently allowed, but I expect you to follow the rules. If you want to talk about your board please stick to relevant threads and post content.
No.3285
>>3249I recall seeing people posting rule34 stuff here a while ago, I believe it was before you gained ownership.
If the posting of rule34 is restricted here could you redirect them to the /rule34/ board?
I only bring it up because I've sent some of the off topic fetish stuff here before.
I hope this isn't inappropriate.
No.3294
>>3285That's fine, it's a legitimate question. Rule 34 is allowed as long as it follows the rest of the rules, if that changes I'll keep /rule34/ in mind.
No.3298
are quest threads allowed here?
No.3301
>>3298Definitely if people are posting enough pictures. If there's not enough content then it's 50/50, I'm letting some low content threads slide due to how slow the board is. Otherwise as long as OP posts enough content you're good.
No.3302
If you're going to report please give a reason. Additionally I'm not sure what rule nipple-sex is supposed to violate but it seems ok to me.
No.6951
Is shitty western art allowed like it is on halfchan?
No.6953
>>6951
Western art isn't banned, art that is too shitty is subject to deletion/report regardless of style. It's pretty much a discretionary issue so bans will only be handed out if we're being flooded by it.
No.7005
Was my post in >>6866 containing a webm removed?
No.7014
>>7005
I don't recall deleting any webms from the thread, it's possible I mistook it for something else depending on the thumbnail.
No.7050
>>7014
It was a webm that was mainly an audio track with ero sounds, in response to an "asmr" request in that thread.
Aside from that, i saw in another thread a user getting a post deleted.
I didn't catch the image in question, so I can't comment on it exactly. You posted:
>3D isn't necessarily against the rules but most of it doesn't fit the hentai style.
I'd like a bit more clarification on the type of content allowed.
Say, would 3D animated videos like:
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/4677122
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/4755878
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/4730805
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/4671866
be allowed?
Or other types of stuff like "suggestive audio" like what I was trying to post?
Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of shitty cg out there, but there's some notable content.
Lastly, just a suggestion: just delete the file rather than the whole post?
No.7051
>>7050
Ah, actually, i just recalled which posts are missing from that thread. Some awkward western renderings. Eh, I just looked over it and ignored them while browsing thread, people fond of the fetish would hold it to higher standards.
Also, to clarify the suggestion: I meant to not delete the whole post if they made wrote something in the comment field that's on-topic/contributing to the discussion. If the post is just poor quality images or off-topic, then yea go ahead.
I felt it was kinda unfair that one post was removed just because of the file, but whatever.
No.7055
>>7050
It's hard to give specific guidelines as to what is or isn't hentai style, people have been debating that for as long as hentai boards have existed. It comes down to a judgement call that has to be made on a case by case basis. As a general rule if a 3D render is going for realism I'm going to remove it.
No.7680
/v/ used to link to the other vidya boards in the header. I wonder if we could make /d/ less /d/ead if we got the various porn boards to do the same.
No.7807
Smallest nitpick in the world, but the rules link still refers to 8chan.co.
No.10363
>>3175
>Now, futa on halfchan's /d/ does not follow this pattern. The porn is posted as a trickle, with a few images each day. this is very bad for board health. It will knock newer threads bursting with content off of the board, and it can keep a single thread up for months with only a few new images a day to show for it. Its behaviour that turns a board from a quick, dynamic environment to experience a variety of fetishes into a series of slow blogs. There were even rumors that it was only a few people posting out of some dorm rooms behind the vast majority of the once-a-day bumps, but its been awhile and I dont know enough about network security to independently verify those claims.
That pattern had all hallmarks of an automated spam bot due to its perfect randomised 24h interval. I was very angry about it because no one complained about it while everyone complained about real people for having real conversations, and mods played along by banning those people. Genuine activity was called “shitposting” and shitposting was called “a good thread”. “It was a good thread until you appeared.” “Stop talking.” “Stop thinking.” The main preoccupation of /d/ was filtering of anything that stood out above the shit tier. It felt as if /d/ was run maliciously by a transphobic ring of from /pol/, determined to hold back the idea of futanari from gaining further traction and to hinder people who love futa. They claimed to love futa – and, at the same time, they did everything in their power to keep it dumb, and to stop it from ever becoming anything more than rubbish cartoons. So they (in fact you) asked for it to happen. Nobody cared when I reported the futa spammer (very likely mod himself, filling the board with “good content” to make it look bigger than it actually is before Moot without the hassle of policing real activity). And now you confirm that I was right...
Everything about 4chan’s /d/ was self-defeating: calculated to attract users without letting them benefit from it. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone leaked that it was a social experiment / a CIA psy-op. CIA likes to have the society’s sexuality under control because they are sadistic perverts similar to 4chan mods.
/lgbt/ was the opposite: they were a tight-knit, pseudo-anonymous circle of rabid, pornophobic and erotophobic dick haters and their chief preoccupation was tricking transcurious men into self-castration (chemically and surgically) which is literally the opposite of futa. It was like a radical version of /nofap/, essentially a castration cult. I wonder how many they have castrated.
Now that was okay for the 4chan crowd! But wanting the opposite? Would get you saged, reported, filtered and banned both on /d/ and /lgbt/.
There was no middle ground on 4chan.
>>3176
Can someone explain me what is Nazis’ business on transsexual porn boards? Shouldn’t you burn in Auschwitz for fapping to that?
No.10369
Oh, c'mon, we don't need THREE meta threads on the front page.