/debate/ - Discussion and Debate

At best is not so bad but still not good, at worst is argueably worse than absolutism.

There's no point in it either, just like there's no point in having any form of power structure.

Democracy is one of the things that would work if at least 95% of the population was really intelligent and capable of independant thoughts.
Because this is (obviously) not the case, it's actually worse than dictatorship or anything since the sheeps think they are free. The best slave is the one who think he is free.

I don't think we have yet reached a point where we can witness true democracy at work. Liberal democracies are largely subdued to the interests of the ruling class: we can confirm this by looking at the amount of financial backing presidential candidates in the US receive in exchange for political favors.

>>78
Democracy is control by the media.

A republic or democracy is not inherently good or inherently bad, it's what is chosen that makes it either way.

However as you can see with the debt there is a strong tendency to favor the present over the future.
This is for both the temporary leaders to look good and the fact that children or those that will exist don't really have a say and the average person doesn't project too far into the future.

>>155
>Democracy is control by the media.

That's just its current, corrupted form. We could call it a corporatocracy, since mass media is ultimately owned by corporations.

Democracy, by definition, is control by the people.

>A republic or democracy is not inherently good or inherently bad, it's what is chosen that makes it either way.

I disagree. Rational, informed people will ultimately make the better choices if they are left free to choose.

>However as you can see with the debt there is a strong tendency to favor the present over the future.
>This is for both the temporary leaders to look good and the fact that children or those that will exist don't really have a say and the average person doesn't project too far into the future.

True. The corporatocracy lacks long-term planning: corporate interests are more concerned about making a quick buck than using resources to secure a safe and stable world in the future.

>>156
Transitivity nigga. Medias control "people" (the majority of them).

>>78
It is the worst, because the more people are in power the less consensus there is and the slower and more bureaucratic the making of decisions becomes.
>Fascism/Dictatorship when following Machiavelli's philosophy is the one best system for the improvement of human civilization.
>Anarchy is the one best system regarding individual opportunities and freedom, obviously.
>Communism is the one best system in regards to the human condition and dignity.
I'd like to add that what I view as the greatest flaw in nowadays' democracy is that all idealism is lost, all that matters to the electorate is what practical changes a politician makes, not what that politician stands for.

>>165

>Fascism/Dictatorship when following Machiavelli's philosophy is the one best system for the improvement of human civilization.
>Anarchy is the one best system regarding individual opportunities and freedom, obviously.
>Communism is the one best system in regards to the human condition and dignity.

That's a pretty interesting way of seeing it, at least in best case scenario.

best and/or worst case scenario i'd go with anarchism

>>167
>anarchism
Anarchism simply cannot exist. If there is conflict on person or group will enforce their will over another.
This is the very definition of government.

Anarchy isn't a bad system of government, it just cannot exist outside of a theory.