/digipen/ - DigiPenitentiary

>>3574

they make a few interesting points every now and again

>>3574

No, at least some of them have made games before. If you were ever in one of Portnow's classes, then you never heard the end of how he helped work on COD4. But game design is a very subjective field, and everything needs to be taken with a grain of salt. It's part of the underlying reason why the GD programs have the issues they do (or at least why people have problems with it).

>>3605

Moral of the design classes - Think about what you're doing and make sure that players are enjoying your fucking game in playtests rather than pretending that you're a delicate genius whose game will make peoples eyes bleed rainbows when they play the 100% completed game at the end of the semester but they don't "get you" because you came to playtest club with a smiley face that platforms through an ugly placeholder world.

>>3644

Wow, that was a long angry run-on sentence. Sorry about that. Sentiment stands.

>>3644 & >>3645

Eh, pretty much. At the very least it's all you need to do to pass (other than know time management, but that's a given).

Not that the instructors past GAT 211 are telling you that, since it really should be common sense.

Though to loop back to the discussion, it means that a lot of the GD instructors struggle to come up with anything of real value to actually teach, which kinda ruins the point of the classes (assuming you're "smart" enough to playtest and not slack off). Hence, EC as a "lecture" you paid for.

http://allenchou.net/2015/01/gdc-social-tips/

Clean yourself as much as possible (esp. your hands). It's easy to get nasty sick at conventions just because of how many people are milling about in (relatively) cramped spaces.

Also you should probably figure out where you're staying in advance. Probably an obvious point, but crucial nonetheless.

Good job wining that ticket though. Hope you have fun when you're there!

>>3638

Hey, I won a ticket last year and Digipen never gave it to me. Their story changed each time I asked.

You need to ride their fucking asses hard to make sure you actually get what they promised you, because they will fuck you out of it if you're not super proactive about it.

>>3660

Really? Shit was easy. I was one of the first to win and I was told 'come talk to us later' a couple times which ended up getting my ticket if I remember like a couple weeks before GDC. All it was just a coupon code that I assume had a limited use. Absurd that no one knew when, but it wasn't difficult.

>>3663

yo what's the coupon code tho

>>3591

Bachelor of Arts in Game Design students.

So, yes.

>>3591

Basically the punchline of nearly every single digipen joke.

And for good reason.

>>3557

You drop out, you overly sensitive asspie. The game has an overtone of a lesbian relationship, so if he calls it "gone-homo" is its a word play on the theme, not a fucking statement on the industry. "gamergate", grow up.

>>3612

>overtone of a lesbian relationship

nigga the game is straight up about lesbians

>>3618

It's not like the games about lesbians that I like to play, though..

That was only fun when it got proposed back in september.

>>3499

Do you really think this?

Go on /v/ and post about how gaming needs more vagina, divorced from talent or capability

>>3505

hiring based on peoples "talent" and "capability" is just another way of upholding the status quo, and has no place in an inclusive society

>>3458

>>3506

>shilling

>on a tiny niche board

for what purpose

>hiring based on peoples "talent" and "capability" is just another way of upholding the status quo

You mean the status quo where only talented and capable people, regardless of their genitals, skin color, or sexual preferences, are rewarded?

>and has no place in an inclusive society

I'm sorry you have no talent or ability, but that's not my - or anyone else's - problem. But if you're looking for a job, they're always hiring at McDonalds - no talent OR ability required!

>>3569

Don't mansplain stuff to me, shitlord

>>3571

I hope you're not trolling <3

>>3542

You know every rule that treats you like a child at the school? It's there so if any liability issues occur.

Supposedly the building had a gym when Microsoft had it.

>>3546

Gym's still there, they've just blacked out the windows after loading it with fucking model planes.

>>3547

ah yes, claude's airplane room

Softball would be awesome, if you can organize a time for it that doesn't conflict with classes, preferably during the weekdays though

The whole no sports thing is a liability issue but I think the DP admins are trying to get rid of it, so talking to them about this'll probably go well

>>3566

Oh man I'd be down for softball or baseball. I used to love that shit back when I had a life. If this goes anywhere do try to get the word out.

Reminder, since most freshman and some sophomores dropped out there will be more of dat sweet PARKING.

>>3558

There's some truth to the board being melodramatic but there *are* huge fundamental problems with the school, and the people who care to see them change are also often the ones who are too busy to get those changes to happen.

More importantly, what are those screenshots from? The text looks like pokemon Viet Crystal, but the map looks like a shitty romhack

>>3564

>we'll all be homeless once we graduate

Only if you're a badger, particularly incompetent BSGD, or a complete autist

Dafuq is that shit

>>3485

It's yet another goddamn social media thing

I only hear about it because people keep getting arrested for making threats on it.

I used to, but fucking nobody else did(it's all u-w), so I gave up on using it.

BAGD's are required to take a multitude of art classes in addition to their CS and GAT classes, not to mention random one-off classes like film.

Everyone is busy, it's not unique to any program. I know plenty of RTIS that get straight A's and don't typically have to work on the weekends.

>>3467

The reason you are using Zero Engine now is because BAGD's weren't fully included in game projects until the last two years. They tried separating them completely, and it resulted in a bunch of elitist tools that are more interested in making particle effects than fun games.

The RTIS and BSGD's were also complaining because they were forced to build an engine before they were taught how to do so. Rightfully so, as that's an ongoing problem this school has.

So now they are trying to keep the degrees together so that there are always people thinking about making GAMES and not just tech. I can't yet comment on how successful it has been, we will see at the end of the year if there are any games from the Sophomores that are actually fun to play, but they do seem to be concentrating more on making games rather than just tech.

Alpha Engine was throwing people into the deep end of the pool and forcing them to swim or drown. Theoretically your classes should be giving you that information, but…well…welcome to DigiPen!

>>3481

I still feel like Alpha Engine had the right idea, it was just poorly implemented.

If Alpha Engine was anywhere near as polished as Zero is, and if CS 230 was made into an actually useful class, I think GAM 150 was fine the way it was in Spring 2014. Alpha Engine sucks ass though.

Zero is pretty fucking awesome, and some teams have used its code to add Zilch support to their games. This is the structure GAM needs! This should be mandatory!

If DigiPen actually cared about students learning, instead of just throwing them into a pit and letting them figure out how to make a game on their own, they would actually try to put structure to GAM, but they don't, it's all completely free-form.

>>3482

It was fine. It did it's purpose of being a shitty graphics wrapper with people requesting a new thing to be added every week. Eventually it wouldve reached the point of 'completion'.

What was the problem with gam150 wasn't alpha. It wasn't even making a game entirely in C. It was how to make a game. Hell there wasn't even anything wrong with CS230. It's the timing of everything is way off which makes the course completely pointless or suffer making a game weeks late in which you feel like a twat during presentations. With Zero being used that just means now it is a completely pointless class.

The change wasn't for the sake of structure. It was for the degree that the school is trying to create, BAGD.

Everything could have been solved, well not for BAGD, if they just you know used game lecture for teaching how to make a simplistic engine rather than talking about nonsense that you don't give a shit about since it's so high level.

It seems like they fixed it (or repaired it to how it was before), GAM150 used zero last year but all CS students except for biscuits have to use Alpha for it.

I was there, this is pretty much how it went down

>>3537

The really didn't do their research.

https://www.techinasia.com/china-citizen-scores-credit-system-orwellian

The system is bad, but it's not exactly what EC is portraying.

>>3538

Extra Credits? Not doing the research?

Preposterous! James Portnow invented the first video game!

It does if you have financial aid. If you fail a class or have too low of a GPA then *poof* there goes several thousand dollars.

For jobs? Companies usually don't give a shit.

>scholar ships

>financial aid being >2.0

>graduating needs >2.0

>Masters requirement, Digipen continuing for masters is 2.5

Other than that most jobs don't give a fuck. The only place that I know of that actually had GPA for a graduate/intern was NASA.

Your grade does not tell anyone how knowledgeable you are at the subject despite what the grading scale is meant to be. It just shows you can test well.

Those group projects you do? They show what you know

Unless you graduate with a 4.0, then no…and even then, it probably wont.

It MIGHT if you were coming from a different college but DigiPen has a reputation for destroying people. Managing to make it to your junior year at DigiPen is often just as good as getting a degree with a 4.0 at most colleges in the eyes of most HR reps.

>financial aid GPA requirements lower than the ones at my 'local university'

looks like i know where to go for my college education :^)

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Good thing I'm a senior and I had 1 final out of 6 classes. Feels great. Hope it's the same shit next semester.

>>3518

I wish I did, since I still play that game (anyone else here play, I'm on Verdantine, though I haven't played since school started this semester)

>>3519

I'm surprised it still exists, has it been neutered of its sandbox elements like all the other non-eve sandbox MMOs?

>>3521

Its basically the same thing its always been, which is both pretty awesome and unfortunately likely the reason it never went 'mainstream'. Its in maintenance mode no though, no further updates. I don't think it has much time left sadly.

that game is ass