/digipen/ - DigiPenitentiary

>>3701

I love this school for this exact form of autism spectacle. Please describe what happened.

>>3703

I started to make a fucking programming joke and she stopped me mid-sentence with "yeah, I'm not going to get it." Not much else to say.

>>3706

What was the joke?

>>3707

The one where the programmer is told "while you're out, go get some eggs" and never comes home.

My roommate got asked out by a girl and he said "HA" and walked away

He didn't get over that he actually did that for almost a month.

>>3708

I'm a programmer and I don't get it.

>>3710

while(out) get(eggs);

he never stops being out, so he never stops getting eggs

>>3711

What a shitty fucking joke

>>3713

And fuck you too. It's not meant to be a fucking stand-up routine, it's just a dumb ice breaker.

>>3714

>dumb

>>3715

>too dumb for DigiPen snobs

>too technical for women at the bar

>>3714

Fuck you, if you said that to me I'd bitch slap you and then make sure any place I work never hires you because your ice breaker jokes are shit and will singlehandedly ruin the fucking company.

And you're ugly

>>3723

Your face is a butt

>>3727

I get it!

>>3713

I love that joke. You shut your fucking mouth. (Honestly, its a lot funnier when spoken allowed. I tell it to people all the time and they laugh. I dont blame OP)

>>3735

>allowed

it's aloud

>>3736

Give him a brake; he's only ever hurt it allowed.

>>3701

At the risk of actually engaging you, this BAGD right here has gotten more pussy than you probably ever will.

>>3747

Come on man, I'm BAGD too but you have to admit our class is fucking shameful.

Every lecture with BAGD students is torture. Everyone thinks they're brilliant. Everyone thinks they have the perfect solution or story for every topic. Everyone is just desperately trying to be Ben Ellinger or Valve.

>>3747

Good, with a BA in game design you're probably going to need to find a rich chick to hook up with.

>>3779

I feel bad for the people who're trying to get a BA in Game Design

The programmers can get work tons of places. The artists can get work anywhere that needs art if they're good enough. Game designers? They can get a job… designing games, I guess.

I feel like that market might already be over-saturated by other people who want to work for videogames.

>>3780

That's why the school is pushing the BAID program I feel. Trying to get some of them to look in other fields and such. AFAIK there aren't that many design jobs in general, but there are more out there if you look beyond games.

It doesn't help that all most of them ever talk about is wanting to join some large & popular company like Blizzard or Monolith. There's probably just as many (of the limited) positions being offered by smaller companies, and I've already seen a few cases of people ending up with minimum wage jobs just because they don't want to settle for a smaller company. Whether it's that or because those individuals are just bad designers, I can't be certain.

>>3783

Bit of both I imagine. There are a few BAGDs that are competent, but a staggering amount of them are still unable to grasp fundamental concepts of design.

The easiest way to weed out whether or not someone is worth their weight in a design capacity is to talk to them about things other than video games. If they're interested in, say, why a mug was made a certain way, or why the windows on the side of a car are the shape they are, then you've got someone fundamentally interested in the reason behind making anything.

All these kids that just wanna "make sick video games" are going to crash and burn regardless of degree program.

>>3780

>Game designers? They can get a job… designing games, I guess.

As a BAGD, that is what I want. I know it's not the most glamorous of jobs and I'll never make as much as I could as an RTIS, but if I wanted to work as a computer programmer, I would have stayed in my home state and gone to one of the colleges there. I could have gotten a better degree from one of the top engineering schools in the nation for less money and stress. I know people who did this, and maintained relatively normal social lives in the process.

Instead, I made a conscious realization that I wanted to make video games, even if its not professionally, but preferably if it was. A degree from DigiPen seemed like the best path forward with that.

>>3792

A fair decision, but I think you missed the point >>3780 was trying to make.

>I know it's not the most glamorous of jobs and I'll never make as much as…

It's not so much how much you make (most professional game designers make at least enough to live comfortably last I checked) or the prestige of it but rather the amount of job offers available to you. There's simply less out there for designers compared to programmers and computer graphics artists, even if you count the non-game industry positions. It's the reason why BAGDs have the hardest time getting a job after graduation compared to the other degree programs. I'm a BSGD myself, and I don't expect to be able to get a pure design job for quite a while (even though we take nearly identical design courses in amount and type). I'll probably be hired to do gameplay programming (things like software tools, AI, and engine subsystems), and failing that I plan on just going for a straight-up programming job somewhere; there's enough out there for me to find a few options once I look past games, especially since I have a lot of prior programming experience.

I'm not here to put you down; a BAGD is still more likely to get a proper career making games than not (at least since I last checked), but if things don't work out for whatever reason it's okay to look in places other than the big video game companies (something a fair number of BAGDs before you have been too prideful to accept). If you're a good designer with a heart for making games and a decent grasp on scripting & pre-built game engines, you should at the very least be able to make a decent indie title in your space time and be able to use that to get a leg-up on the other BAGDs competing for the same positions. But your game-designing job is not guaranteed and your competition is large (and growing), so be prepared to keeping working hard for your dream job, potentially even after you graduate.