/div/ - Divination

Oh, an inaugural post, how exciting!

I'm looking for a general reading on my upcoming year. I'm fighting a disease, and making some fair amount of change in my life, so I'd like to know what might come of that.

I'm Ana, female, Cancer, 27 years old.

If a song is needed, this one has been stuck in my head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeAUf-VeXbE

Please tell me if anything else is required.

>>49

Situation: Knight of Wands

You: Justice (R), The Sun (R), 5 of Wands

Challenges: Strength (R), Knight of Pentacles (R), The Hierophant (R)

Outcome: 8 of Wands

Advice: 4 of Wands

I see that you're exploring deeper into your mind and body; taking action and overcoming some thoughts. You're seeking for peace, equilibrium, and security; asking yourself the question "what must I regulate and rebalance in my life?", however, you're facing some difficulties in your emotions, mainly because you're trying to do too many things all at once. Your biggest challenges are you and yourself alone; you need the Strength to move forward and stop overthinking things. The outcome from this is major transformation and realization for the better, so I'd say it's looking pretty good for you this year. The advice here would be to seek stability and completion; instead of trying to achieve many things at once, focus one thing at a time and then go on to the next. You can never finish the transformation of mind and body; it's always a work in progress, however, you can choose which to focus on first.

>>52

>"what must I regulate and rebalance in my life?"

Exactly! I think about this every day, and every day I come up with something new to do, some new project, to help me find that balance. This is how I end up doing too many things at once.

>instead of trying to achieve many things at once, focus one thing at a time and then go on to the next.

So I guess I'll drop some projects and try that.

Thank you very much. It was a good reading!

Practicing scrying~ I will need your name/alias, gender, and a query for me to scry.

>>56

Male, call me G. Can you scry my next girlfriend? Thanks

>>57

A girl with medium-length dark hair, smiling and smirking. Cups of coffee around.

So.. I think she may be a waitress/barista with dark hair that may flirt with you?

>>58

I'll have to start frequenting coffee shops, then. Thank you, I'll keep an eye out.

Can I get a love reading? Straight male here

>>63

Situation: 3 of Pentacles

Past: 5 of Swords (R)

You: 8 of Swords, Knight of Wands, The Hermit

Challenges: 7 of Cups, Ace of Wands (R), Temperance

Outcome: The High Priestess (R)

Advice: 8 of Pentacles

Friend, I can see a lot of change and transformation in your current situation. You're doing some thinking and deep introspection on what you should do to move forward, perhaps caused by a heartbreak in the past. Was there one? It seems that this chick messed your mind up, and you have no idea what to do from now on. This is what you're challenged by: a mess of your mind, no willpower left to move forward, no idea what you want, and zero patience when it comes to love.

You want to start over again, but you have no idea how; because your mind is a huge mess, perhaps because of that one lass. You're beginning to shut yourself in, because you don't believe in love anymore; that's the general feeling I get from this spread. Well, to be completely honest with ya, the outcome here doesn't look so good as it indicates much solitude and loneliness caused by everything above.

I know it's hard to move on, but you have to, lad. Nothing will come out of your current path other than solitary and loneliness, so: Go out more and socialize instead of shutting yourself in because of what may have happened in the past; find somebody else so you can forget her if you have to.

>>64

Your reading was spot-on in every last detail, every last one. Thank you, have a nice day.

Name: S. D.

Gender: Male

How is my life going to unfold in the next 18 months? Pointedly, am I going to be going back to my old life's plan or am I moving onward?

>>66

9 of Wands, 8 of Wands, The World

Nice. This is a really nice and good spread. You've made some choices in the past, leading to some transformation you're going through now, and the outcome of this progress is embodied in The World; fulfillment and completion of what you set out to do. There's some stability indicated here in your path, too. The negative connotations here you should watch out for are uncertainties in your path; know what you want, don't regret what you set out to do because it's what you wanted, and simply just keep going in face of setbacks.

You're definitely moving onward, friend.

>>68

I'm going to try my hand at this query, if you don't mind:

The Hanged Man (R), The Tower (R), The Sun

Wow, what a spread.. three major arcanas, eh? This all speaks of stagnation, self-doubt, destruction, then eventual creation. This is a really weird query, so I'm not sure how to answer it precisely; but I'd say what about creating your own system by mix-and-matching different systems and traditions? That seems to be what this spread is telling me - that you should forge your own path ahead and there will The Sun.

I am about to do a 3 day long college entrance exam.

Will I be aproved?

straigth male. Alec

general love reading please.

>>80

It means reversed. I assume you're using the Thoth deck?

New Query : what is my question ?

>>81

Yeah.

Ah, alright.

Would like a reading on my current spiritual/occult path. Thanks!

>>56

Aya / Female

What can I do to progress with my professional life? Am I on the right path? If not which career should I pursue?

>>67

Thank you.

Namaste

Eric, Male.

What can you tell me of my journey over the next 3 months? (might get complicated after 2 and 1/2 though) Journey of "Being" more, so to speak.

Name: Adonay

Gender: Male

Little bit of a story Here:

i have been through some really intense things during the last couple of Years (well, we all have) And after all those years, I have been handling things quite alright, and I would say that I'm way better as a person, even spiritually better, But after some recent experiences I decided to change my self in some other levels (mentally and physically) But here's the thing, i don't know if this changes are gonna benefit me and the people around me or if they are gonna make people feel bad around me, and with that they will just try to avoid me.

Anyway, am I gonna benefit me and at least some of my friends and family members after going through this change? (No, it's not a sex change or anything like that, just to be clear)

Who would like to be my guinea pig for a divination method that just occurred to me randomly? I'm going to let me hand wander on foggy glass and see what shapes come out.

>>95

I'm down. That sounds fun.

I have no query, though.

>>68

Interested in how the reading would play out, so I gave it a shot too.

> Center: Knave of swords. Relationships with the forces: 5 of pentacles. Fire: The Chariot. Air: The Hermit. Water: The Hanged Man.Earth: Ace of Wands. Conducted in the presence and influence of Duke, Daemon and Teacher, Astaroth

The reading's central matter outlines the necessary for preliminary work, work that is guided by higher forces. These higher forces have to align the human intellect with spiritual currents. So, your preliminary work/initiation in those arts has to be guided and looked upon by a source higher then yourself, call it however you want, higher self, god, ain soph, doesn't matter how high or mighty, or who it is, really, but it must be a higher force you would enjoy being "guided" by, can even be thor or something from a pantheon you are familiar with, a like minded entity.

This magick, as is shown by the chariot card, is motivated and you will only advance into it, by fulfilling your material needs and desires, in an attempt to stabilizes your outer situation.

The hermit comes and colors the reading in an "interesting way", it shows how your awareness, during the process, even though it is influence by the conditions without, would be more productive, if turned inwards. This would outline, the need for a period of celibacy between each operations and the need of self discovery and operation, from an inner perspective.

Along with the hermit, we find the hanged man , core component of this system. It is a way to temper out your material desires, it is the process of inner alchemy, where states within are transmuted into others. As above, so below.Thus, for the succes, in this system, "low-states", such as lust and anger, must be transmuted into higher ones, to achieve the desired result.

And, as a product of the interactions of these forces, we find, the ace of wand, you will gain the power of affecting matter by the magickal Will.

Astaroth has expressed his opinion over the reading and has said that your "magickal system" is all about invokation and interaction from a "within yourself" perspective (as opposed to evokation). You will have to first interact with positive forces and entities for them to guide you to develop the core skills needed for the art of invokation, pathworking and to a certain extent, astral travel (more like dream work and travelling on the "inner-planes"). You will then have to use the skills gained, to control "dark" spirits and d(a)emons and instruct them to manifest your will. These dark forces also have to be interacted with from within.

Invoking angels and demons, enochian and goetic magick. Look and look deeper into these disciplines, trust me, there is a LOT more then meets the eye.

According to Astaroth, this is what will give you the results that you seek.

>>96

Hah, the glass unfogged long ago, so I scried a general for you. (also experimental because I don't think I've ever scried generals before)

I saw a heart with an arrow through it, followed by the Temperance card and the 2 of Pentacles

Well, I would say this represents a past failure that comes to define your present moment. At this time, you feel a mixture of sadness and anger over it. You feel inclined to supress it, but part of you also wants to embrace it in some strange way.

The trick here is to combine both of these feelings into an amalgamation that works for you by motivating you. Let your clear thoughts set the plan, and let your fury and feels provide the fuel you need. You actually need both your logical thoughts and your firey feelings in order to proceed forward; just one won't give you the direction or force you need. Once you put both of these together in the correct manner, you'll find yourself forging forward towards the direction you want to.

The 2 of Pentacles at the end shows balance, in this case representing that of your clear thoughts and your firey feels. Remember how I mentioned that you need both? Well, the result indicates your control over and balance of these two aspects of yourself, giving each its own place and sphere of influence. Your goal here is, once again, that balance and amalgamation towards your own advancement, here represented by The Temperance.

Out of curiosity, was the past failure a romantic one? I just got that feeling. Anyway, this is experimental, like I said, as I don't normally scry generals.

Oh, and I later saw the 4 of Pentacles. That has to do with holding onto something valuable, whether physical or otherwise.

Male / Phillip / 24 / Aquarius

What's the outlook on my multiple sclerosis this year? Is there something I should be doing?

>>105

I've got a lot of past failures. I try to take everything as a whole and learn from it and turn it into something to grow from.

Most recently I do have a past love interest pop into my life that I'm working on letting go of and moving forward from. I've dated a lot and learned to handle myself in different ways and grow from each relationship. Love is a big focus in my life amongst my other passions.

I also have childhood stuff that I'm learning to balance and work with so it probably plays on both of those.

Sounds like I'm on the right track either way! Thank you and I think your read was accurate.

Is my query at >90

Too general? Need more info to narrow things down maybe?

I got a reading here already at >>49, but I've never had anyone scrying for me before. I'm not entirely sure it is the best method to answer my specific query, but I wonder if there's anyone willing to try? Here goes:

If money wasn't a problem, what career would make me the happiest?

Again, Ana, Cancer, 27.

If a song is required: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4nb47lllz8

>>124

I see a man wearing thick glasses. He has short brown hair, kind of curly. He's not the most attractive, but he seems extremely kind-hearted. He has an underbite jaw, but he has a nice smile. He has a sort of cheesy sense of humor, and you'll find it somewhat charming.

>>127

seems like my type of guy :3 thanks anon!

>>139

Male, Scorpio. Will I ever make anything of myself? Feeling depressed/angry as all hell right now.

>>139

Male, Capricornian, Will my new life plans make me a better person for me and my friends and family? Feeling a bit unsure, but contented

>>123

Hi Ana, it's been some time I don't do a proper scry so please take it with a pack of salt :) nice song btw, there's a pure intention on it.

The images are cut in pieces

Lots of party balloons turning into a huge and colored air balloon, just above, a blue one awaits and both fly trough the sky, different places, beautiful scenery.

The two fly together, I see them passing by through a large and high window. It's France and the colored one hits the Eiffel tower, bringing a colorful petals rain and people who touches them feels happy instantly, like a pure child. In the sky a Japanese (or Chinese) dragon climbs down the tower and my vision was cut.

On a second look, a single bee escapes from being caught by the big man in white suit while harvesting the flowers nectar in a small but full of flowers garden.

It seems to me your satisfaction lies in the fact that you need to be free in what you do, you can create, produce and people would be happy with the beauty of the results. And someone more experienced can guide you through, just don't get caught up with pre-stabilished models.

>>122

It is very general. Some readers wish to do generals, and some don't. Given that this is a practice thread, your query would likely be read by someone looking to practice very general queries, but not anyone looking to practice more specific ones. It's a crapshoot, though; posting in this thread has no remote guarantee of being read.

>>84

I see the 2 of Wands initially to show. Looking into the scrying globe, I see a ship sailing over the sea, its white sails blown by the wind and majesty. I see turbulent waves smashing against its sides, but it continues nonetheless, for it remains undaunted inside.

For this query I'd say that you'll have some trouble come your way, but you'll do well if you stay the course that your on, come whatever may. There's some planning involved already, and you're already thinking if where you'll eventually be. Keep following that dream, and you'll find victory if you can deal with the hardships at sea.

>>94

I see a man walking down a sidewalk at night, his footsteps occasionally seen as shadows in the light from the lamps on the street. I hear the footsteps tapping rhythmically, and I also hear a tone I've heard before from the arrival if an entity. I won't get into that story, but I feel there to be an arrival of sorts coming proximate: a visitor shall arrive in your life, and some changes might occur thereby.

I see the 3 of Swords…a painful card, but it lets me know that this new arrival in your life might bring some strife. Grow through the blows and go for the gold.

>>148

Thank You! I have been visited by some entities lately, so there could be something related to your reading. Anyway, if it is too much to ask, that's fine, but could you be more specific about the way this man is going to bring some changes in my life? Like if it is related to some sort of spiritual level, or my academic life (I wanna be a teacher) or my family.

But again, thanks for the reading.

How the fuck do I get over my ex? This is taking way longer than it reasonably should, and I've already tried all the standard things. What do I do?

>>149

Well, anon, I'm used to scrying, but I'm not used to taking air-queries, which is why this is likewise practice for me.

It was actually a really strange reading for me because the footsteps and that tone are something I experienced during a recurring dream I had when I was living in a house that may or may not have been haunted in some way. I never quite figured it out, but there was also someone who walked past my window and walked through the door (without opening it) into the house, sometimes into my room. In several versions, whoever it was (they appeared differently) claimed to be looking for me. It also accompanied a period in my life during which I was even deeper into the occult than before, so it's hard to pinpoint a source.

Getting back to your reading, my personal experience leads me to believe that this is more a spiritual/occult matter than a mundane one. I got nothing about physical changes, but something about your recent practices will lead you a bit deeper into your spiritual journey or otherwise affect you primarily mentally. Once, again, it was a weird one for me; I'm no stranger to seeing things that mean things to me person but might be meaningless to others, this one is a bit hard to figure out by virtue of the fact that I never completely figured it out myself.

There is always, of course, the possibility that I may have messed up the reading, as I usually don't read air-queries well.

Good luck with the teaching career, by the way. I studied to be a teacher myself, but the market crashed when I got my degree, so I had to settle for teaching anons how to divine, particularly scrying.

>>156

Thank you, anon.

And I'm sorry about your teaching career, the market can be a total bitch with us sometimes, I hope now that things are going better for you.

Anyway thanks again, you really helped me with some leads about my spiritual/occult path now.

>>151

I was drawing attention to myself, but I've sort of just stopped talking to people so I don't act like a complete douche. There are plenty of people who enjoy my company, as I'm a charismatic dude, but the company of most feels empty, and it just ends up leaving me feeling lonelier; same with going out.

I'm hopeful for that anchor, though. Thanks for the reading.

>>168

they make you feel lonelier because the energy you want is an energy you aren't giving yourself.

I am glad for your hope. I find that to re-open one's heart takes a lot of courage, and that an ended relationship closes one's heart so it won't be hurt again in the same way. But to have another one, one must reopen one's own heart with love. Then the love will shine and attract the other person. That's what worked for me (:

Good luck, well wishes, light and love to you.

Here's another air-query. Feel free to anwser with any method you want. I will provide feedback

"Will I get a girlfriend soon?"

(straight male here, if its relevant)

>>192

I see a girl with frizzy blonde hair, and some slight thick-rimmed glasses she wears. I see her carrying a book in her hands, and she seems a bit nerdy from what I understand.

Now, for the experimental part:

Within a month: 6 of Cups

Within two weeks: 3 of Wands

So, I'm going to say you'll meet her in a little over two weeks, but that was completely experimental, so don't trust me excessively.

Please come back and let me know later, though.

I have a question that is moderately simple.

Is it best to choose the path of masculinity that feels "cold" to me,

some middle ground between that coldness and the warmth I feel from less conditional love?

or something like I did when I was at a peak a couple months ago?

I can do an oracle card reading. Angel/Mermaid decks are general affirmations/advice, Energy deck is energies of the situation (currently missing 1-4 cards) + affirmation, Chakra Wisdom deck is most complex/detailed, Ascended Masters deck is sorta general advice.

I'll do moderate detail, up to 15 cards drawn, (fewer cards = more detail), and intuit which I should expand upon/allow for 3 others expanded.

>>194

I can do that query for you in a few hours if you tell me what considerations you have (ie, love, money, personal well-being, etc)

>>196

Love

>>193

Going to college soon."book" and "nerdy" fits that part. I wear thick-rimmed glasses.

The body description certainly fits what I would like.

The time however seems too soon. But if i am wrong I let you know.

Could you make a more detailed explanation of those cards and how you estimated time please?

>>194

>>200

I was going to do a Golden Dawn or Two Path spread, but then I saw there were two, then I saw there were three or four…so, I'm just going to make up a spread right now and see how it goes.

You / Hopes / Fears: The Fool / 4 of Wands (reversed) / 6 of Pentacles

Guiding Principle: Page of Swords, supported by King of Swords and 10 of Swords (reversed)

Past Influences, Present Stage, New Circumstances: Page of Cups, Temperance (reversed), 7 of Wands

What You Really Want / How to Get It / Projected Outcome: The World / Wheel of Fortune (reversed) / Knight of Swords

Wewlad. I'm not even going to bother rhyming like I usually do; I'm just going to be real with you: you're hurt, dude, and the reason for this whole “I need to man up” mindset is simply because you got burned, and you're looking to trusting your mind after your heart has failed you.

That Page of Cups for the past influences is clear enough there: you were romantic and soft and nice and all that shit girls like to see on British romantic comedies, but you got burned. I get it, it happens to the best of us.

Alright, you're truly afraid of your efforts bringing about nothing in terms of stability and, more importantly, you've found yourself giving more than you get, and it's something you might regret. You're thinking overmuch on how you're not being paid adequately for your efforts, or at least haven't before, and the result of these thoughts is you going straight for the totally left-brained approach.

The guiding principle section (ie, what's guiding your decisions and your thoughts) is ALL SWORDS. You're at this stage where you're looking to solve your past hangups by ignoring them completely, and you just want to use your head and power through, finding a solution in being as cold as possible. Well, you told me as much with the whole masculinity thing, but this trio of cards leaves it quite clear to me: you're the Page of Swords looking to become the King, and this notion of dominance over your mental faculties seems to you to be the key to overcoming the failure in the past and finding in it some victory.

But your notion of victory is through ignoring. See the problem here, buddy? Your present condition is represented by The Temperance in reverse: you're completely unbalanced. As far as these other cards are informing me, you're bouncing back and forth between extremes, but that just isn't helping. The future as the 7 of Wands shows that you'll be forced to defend the…I'm sorry to be so blunt, but you'll be forced to defend the bullshit you're feeding yourself right now: you'll have this one moment while sitting in your room at night, and something just clicks, and you'll just ask yourself “what the fuck is wrong with me?”

(cont.)

>>234

(cont.)

Let's save you some trouble: what you really want is for everything to make sense. Like I said, you're sort of floating back and forth between right and left, but you're going to need to get those two hands together if you'd have a prayer of making sense of yourself.

To answer your original question: no. No to the cold masculinity, no to the way you were before, no to the middle ground, no to any of those simplistic options you're putting in front of yourself. At the same time, it's yes: yes to every last one of them.

>wtf dude, that doesn't make sense

Yes, it does: The World is what you really want here: you want to find where all the pieces fit, you want to know what your past experiences are supposed to have taught you, you want to see how this all fits in with the grand plan. Awesome, so do the rest of us, but you're being stubborn. Instead of being open to reexamination, you're finding new ideas and clinging onto them zealously in an effort to explain it all away, when sometimes explanations, no matter how well-contrived, are completely useless.

I sort of see you like those guys who get rekt by a girl and then start getting all into TRP/PUA/whatever they're calling it now and get lost in the ideology, simply because it makes quick sense at the time, but you're also flitting from ideology to ideology, based on its immediate ability to make sense.

Stop that. Take a breath, slow down, and stop looking for self-professed internet gurus to make up your mind for you. We're all individuals, and you may have forgotten that in some sense along the way, even if that particular reality hasn't quite hit you yet.

My advice: stop listening to other people, as there is no one-size-fits-all solution to this sort of thing. No matter how great a model, it is always inherently flawed, and you're just looking for the next flawed model right now. Instead, you should forget all about models and just think about yourself, not others, right now. Stop comparing your own experiences with vaguely similar ones, and understand yours to be a unique one: one that characterizes the present state of your life.

Once you stop, chillax, and think this through, you'll find your own idea and run with it: Knight of Swords.

Best of luck, friend.

>>206

I've been experimenting with time-frame things, but I haven't gotten any right yet. What I did for this was inspired by the way Cat People did timeframe readings, with a card representing a specific period of time, as well as the spreads that are meant for a year at a time.

Like I said, it's experimental, so grain of salt. Honestly, I hope it's wrong, because I did the same method for myself, and it told me that I'd be single for over two years.

>>235

I think you're mostly right. I did frantically trying to make sense of it, because the right words put a bandaid on it as long as it works.

I've long since gone past trp, (good general manliness tips regardless of shittery, and that's important for primal sexual attraction) never embraced it, but did wonder if they were right in my case and I was just a pathetic bastard who was hoping for something I'd never get. I think that isn't entirely correct or incorrect. I didn't grudge what I gave or the feelings I had until I wasnt able to see through pain and admit my feelings and be vulnerable to rejection. I don't think I would have been, and that's something that really screws with my head. The fact that I was pretty much there but screwed up. And looking back and seeing all the signs. The disconnected male side bit is due to a few things. I was hoping I was right in being wrong about that.

That I was too focused on ego pain to relate my needs.

Also I have been "what the fuck is wrong with me" a fair amount (:

And I found out how I should withdraw when I'm emotionally hurt instead of saying it, if I know it won't matter.

Thanks a lot! I'm already at the running with it point, but been depressed bc it's been tough dealing with the idea that the woman who "hurt me" (really it's both and neither of our faults. Just energy echoes) is the one that's been showing up as my mate later.

ego is like "why couldn't you just accept me as I was"

Much love. I'll send you some light (without actually focusing on you but when I meditate I do that for anyone divinity chooses as connected to me)

>>238

Oh, and I had divinations tell me I should go for being the best me and going for her again rather than letting go of the idea that we'll be together. That dissolves my ability to resist the fact that I still love that woman, and the pain involved. Time to embrace growing into my best and freeing myself from falsehood in a gentler way.

Joel. Male.

Will I make a lot of money in the next few months?

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