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 No.104502

Not one bit edition

The last thing left of Gwen Cooper: >>103777

 No.104504

nilsos dead


 No.104505

File: 5a0ec09b5b2c2c3⋯.jpg (207.15 KB, 1271x720, 1271:720, Creet-toclafane.jpg)

I have a complicated relationship with the S3 finale. LOTL did get me to stop watching the show for six years, I disliked it and how the show was being ran to that extent. But I just don’t think the S3 finale is “cynical RTD”, “populist RTD”, “empty RTD”, the way something like the S4 finale is (remember RTD had to be repeatedly talked down from negating the strength and emotion of Journey’s End’s, er, ending through including le wacky hook of two Cybermen grabbing the Doctor at the end instead of letting 10 wallow just for a second). Of course it’s full of big ratings hooks (the Master! Captain Jack! The Doctor captured! A year of devastation! Presidents and prime ministers oh my!) but there is some actual thought in there that I don’t think was just RTD subconsciously making stuff interesting because he’s a brilliant writer.

What the finale, especially Utopia, says about humanity, about the whole concept of the future, it’s meaningful. It’s powerful. It’s a scathing reputation of the idea of teleological progress, of the passage of time having any inherent worth, especially in the context of the human race. The Toclafane reveal is arguably the bleakest thing RTD has written, and that’s including Children of Earth. Consider the audience RTD knew he was selling and showing this to, the millions of children (including me, at the time) who saw the literal mutilated face of a child representing humanity ultimately autocannibalising itself. RTD is a rightfully blackpilled man, and he certainly channelled that to great effect in Torchwood: Children of Earth, but bringing that kind of cynicism to the main programme was astonishing.

Consider how Yana’s Master reflects that depressing realisation that humanity has no promise, no better future, that’s it’s all just shit, and everything dying and meaning nothing in the end is only somewhat negated through mutilating yourself enough to momentarily offset it (both racially through the Futurekind as humanity’s abomination, and temporally through the Toclafane in the Year That Never Was). Moffat may have had a better handle on the character of the Master, and brought that sort of character fault (that even if the Master “turned good”, they’ve already been too bad for that to mean much materially) to a bleak (yet certainly more cathartic) conclusion himself, but RTD weaponised his character into illustrating a greater point about the future: that there’s just nothing there. Even in the shakiest episode of the finale, RTD still drives this point home - “Weapon after weapon after weapon. All you do is talk and talk and talk”. He doesn’t just break down humanity, or the Master, he breaks down the tropes of a Doctor Who story, all exposing the mounting nothingness and meaningless everything will fall to.

It’s interesting how this all reflects the Doctor/Master relationship instead of just humanity itself - they provide entry points into their shared genesis together (naturally this finale is where NewWho first introduces us to Gallifrey visually and musically) and accordingly reflect on the eventual collapse of their origins together. Interesting how eventually they, together again in The End of Time, restate the ugliness of what Gallifrey comes to be, and ensure that its eventual end remains intact (much can be read into RTD’s and Moffat’s differing worldviews on the moralities at play there). The Doctor and the Master know that eventually their world dies, their people die, and they themselves will die. The Master makes no peace with that fact, dedicates his life (even BEFORE knowing of the inevitable extinction and meaningless of his origin) to denying and preventing it, and the Doctor - who only two series earlier had made perfect peace with it, “everything has its time and everything ends” - increasingly becomes Master-like in doing what he can to deny that. From acutely experiencing how ego death actually feels, as John Smith earlier in the series, to his casual lack of interest in actually stopping the Master (seeking instead to unite with him and form some shared meaning and future together - contrast “I forgive you” to “NOT ONE BIT” for some juicy 10/Jack differences as protagonists - sidenote, isn’t that moment just utterly divine? So fucking cathartic, such a reputation of the tiresome cheaply written moralising heroes we get in most shows, such a clarification and actualisation of character instead of saccharine morality play), to everything eventually compounding in his snarling denial of his own future (The End of Time), the Tenth Doctor comes to reflect the ideology present in the S3 finale. He mutilates and distorts himself to try and prolong his life (The Stolen Earth | Journey’s End), he denies the explicit confirmation of his death (Planet of the Dead), becomes depraved in his assurance that his life has weight and meaning (The Waters of Mars), and dies screaming against the inevitable nihilism of his existence ending (The End of Time).


 No.104506

Morphs alive


 No.104507

File: 94d01f052e95922⋯.jpg (128.42 KB, 1200x677, 1200:677, doctor-who-back-when-utopi….jpg)

Much has been written and said about the effective cosmic horror of The Impossible Planet | The Satan Pit, but the horror of Utopia is much more abject. The former is Lovecraft, the latter is Ligotti. The Devil escaping space in the future is scary, but you know what’s scarier? The future having nothing at all. Torchwood increasingly would focus on existentialism and nihilism, exploring death as vacuous termination, the horror of emptiness, of your life ending and that being it, signifying nothing, but Utopia scrawled that idea at a horrifyingly larger scope, all of humanity. Humanity either devolves and inevitably decays as violent beasts (Futurekind) or kills itself in an act of self-mockery (Toclafane).

It’s interesting how this plays with Torchwood, even coming off the back of its nascent S1 form (where a lot of this was more suggested, and even bizarrely rebuked in episodes like Random Shoes, before becoming the more formal worldview of the show as would be espoused more in S2 and beyond), especially They Keep Killing Suzie (nihilism, death as meaningless and final), Countrycide and Combat (humanity as inherently self-destructive and arguably sadistic) and even, sigh, Cyberwoman (humanity grotesquely clinging onto life in increasingly perverse and violent forms). Consider how the neoimperialist foundations of Torchwood might also play into the outsider Blairite charisma-fascism of the Simm PM.

Captain Jack himself also forms a sort of interesting counterpoint to the worldview of much of the S3 finale. He is immutable fact, a straight line, a repudiation of the idea of death coming to us all. Sure, you can read his immortality as torturous, but the mere fact of his continued existence is enough to repulse the Doctor (and the TARDIS) and to gently suggest an alternative to the breakdown of meaning the end of humanity represents. Jack will always be alive. He is the absolute.

But, then again…it is S3 that suggests Jack is the Face of Boe, and it is S3 that kills off the Face of Boe. He may live a very, very long time, but in the end he too decays into a grotesque mockery of human life and - while nobly, and in service of others - dies. Certainly a future scion of humanity dying to liberate and enliven a past collective of humanity is a nicer variation of the future dregs of humanity killing a past collective of humanity to sustain themselves, but it’s still essentially reassuring that however long humanity might extend, none of it can go anywhere in the end except endlessly into the past, collapsing back into itself. RTD, ever the atheist, did maturely grapple with faith in Gridlock and provided the option for a more meaningful faithful worldview for any so inclined, but the horrors of the S3 finale have so much more finality that it’s harder to imagine RTD managing to conjure up a genuinely reasonable faithful and optimistic alternative.

Of course, RTD did go to the same wellspring - faith - to address the horrors and nihilism of the future he conjured up in the S3 finale, but…decidedly less effectively. This is where it all comes crashing down. The shlockiness of the Simm Master and his (utterly wasted) prime ministership, the video game plotting of Martha’s story (both feigned and real), the astonishingly poor judgement of the dobby Doctor, I think those were still able to be if not salvaged then at least ignored. But the Jesus Doctor is a cowardly, artificial, CHEAP breakdown of everything the S3 finale had been exploring. It pulls the story out from under itself, removes all the weight, makes a mockery of the genuine depth it’d been flirting with. Everything the finale had been saying about death and humanity and progress, it meant something, it has actual relevance to the lives of the audience. Billions of people praying really hard, and that making a magic man wave his wand and have all the horrors of the world literally be reversed and undone, doesn’t. It stings especially as RTD even portrays the horrors of the world as born of fascist egomania. No, RTD repositions himself into populist mode and everything interesting the finale had been exploring becomes vapour, and it’s only a matter of minutes until everything is (in true Torchwood style) retconned away, and we’re onto the next cliffhanger, the next Christmas special, the next series. None of it meant anything - and none of THAT meant anything.


 No.104508

File: 0e155b82a6ad934⋯.png (2.49 KB, 367x18, 367:18, morph.png)

morph


 No.104509

nils in custody


 No.104510

File: 178c37cb72c4db9⋯.png (357.17 KB, 490x503, 490:503, jodie 8.png)

>capaldi's a good actor but the writing was bad!


 No.104511

File: f1b7373e2bddf4c⋯.webm (2.62 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, cb.webm)


 No.104512

i want to fuck graham


 No.104513

>>104512

harper


 No.104514

>being a daddyfag


 No.104515

>>104505

>remember RTD had to be repeatedly talked down from negating the strength and emotion of Journey’s End’s, er, ending through including le wacky hook of two Cybermen grabbing the Doctor at the end instead of letting 10 wallow just for a second

?


 No.104516

>>104515

It's true, The Writer's Tale covers it, in fact it was the writer of The Writer's Tale who talked him down from it!


 No.104517


 No.104518

>>104512

Yeah, I'm thinking Nilso's back.


 No.104519

>>104511

what's claudia doing there?


 No.104520

>>104515

originally in Journey's End, the Doctor gives meta10 and Rose a piece of coral so they can grow a TARDIS, and after Donna's memory got wiped, 2 cybermen were gonna like, teleport into the TARDIS. It would end with the "what. What….. WHAT" thing that they had done twice before


 No.104521

>>104505

Did you interpret the Toclafane as something the Master did to the humans, or something that they did to themselves regardless, and the Master just took advantage of it?


 No.104522

>>104521

The latter, since the original conception of the Toclafane (they were designed as the S1 villains, the ones the Time Lords fought in the Time War, in case of not getting the Nation rights to the Daleks) was that.


 No.104523

>>104522

interesting.


 No.104524

>>104522

God, that story arc would have been so GOAT. Dalek was great too though, so I shouldn’t complain. But I still will.


 No.104525

>>104502

Just coming to /who/ right after rewatching They Keep Killing Suzie, and this is the latest thread. Spooked.


 No.104526

>>104524

There would have been something really interesting in the Doctor ending the Time War effectively involving him killing both his races, Time Lords and humans. The Doctor genociding humanity in general is a really interesting idea. I think Dalek/Time Lords worked though and still provided a lot of interesting material for S1.


 No.104527

>>104526

Would the Doctor have known from the get go that the Toclafane were humans? When would he have found out? the finale?


 No.104528

Just to let you guys know, I think a few more recently deleted wiki pages got undeleted somehow during the migration. AMAZING Easter, for example.


 No.104529

The best thing about Power of the Daleks is that Ben appears to have detailed knowledge of "govenors" seemingly due to the fact that he's Cockney.


 No.104530

>>104527

He would have found out in the finale. I read about the planned arc in the Dalek Handbook and it sounded, like, VNA-Level Dark.


 No.104531

>>104507

>Much has been written and said about the effective cosmic horror of The Impossible Planet | The Satan Pit, but the horror of Utopia is much more abject. The former is Lovecraft, the latter is Ligotti. The Devil escaping space in the future is scary, but you know what’s scarier? The future having nothing at all. Torchwood increasingly would focus on existentialism and nihilism, exploring death as vacuous termination, the horror of emptiness, of your life ending and that being it, signifying nothing, but Utopia scrawled that idea at a horrifyingly larger scope, all of humanity. Humanity either devolves and inevitably decays as violent beasts (Futurekind) or kills itself in an act of self-mockery (Toclafane).

Truly brilliant stuff. I wouldn't have thought to bring the two futures presented in The Impossible Planet and Utopia together.

>Consider how the neoimperialist foundations of Torchwood might also play into the outsider Blairite charisma-fascism of the Simm PM.

Kino take.

>But the Jesus Doctor is a cowardly, artificial, CHEAP breakdown of everything the S3 finale had been exploring. It pulls the story out from under itself, removes all the weight, makes a mockery of the genuine depth it’d been flirting with.

>it’s only a matter of minutes until everything is (in true Torchwood style) retconned away, and we’re onto the next cliffhanger, the next Christmas special, the next series. None of it meant anything - and none of THAT meant anything.

I BEG you write up your position on the Time Lord Victorious arc. Imo it's everything presented throughout the Tennant era culminating in The Waters of Mars only to be reduced to the Jesus Doctor-esque "shlock" of The End of Time, thus "vaporising" all meaning created in favour of "populism" once again. RTD was so set in his ways that these three words can be applied to almost all of his best work, and the potential Tennant arc is the most infuriating example of that.


 No.104532

>>104530

>VNA-Level Dark

unironically though, yeah. A lot of Series 1 reminds me of the VNAs. Like when the editor talks about tasting information as it passes through, or the person that was used as part of a computer network in Bad Wolf.


 No.104534

does that Jodie quote waxing lyrical about how "every season has taken us to bold new places" actively annoy anyone else in light of her obviously not having watched any of it? Like I don't mind the not having watched part, I actively welcome that, but it's so cynical to rabbit on about honouring the past in that context when you're blatantly just trying to shill the present


 No.104535

>>104534

I'm sure they just asked her on the spot and she had to come up with something


 No.104536

>>104534

i get that. It's because we know she's being fake, for PR. If Capaldi had said the same thing, we'd all love it, because he'd probably be genuine.

>>104535

I don't blame her, if anything it's part of her job. But I still get a 'fake' vibe from that


 No.104537

>>104531

The political stuff becomes even more interesting considering Children of Earth - how to read that PM coming after the everchanging Harriet Jones, and Simm PM, and in a world where the US president still fucking died in S3 even after the Year That Never Was retcon.

10's development in the specials year is really interesting, I actually really like his characterisation in EOT and love his take on regeneration, but it's so utterly adrift from the Time Lord Victorious stuff. It pays off some characterisation very well but ignores some (from the special right before it!) nearly completely. My issue with a lot of 10 and 11's characterisation is that it was too implied, which works fine when the show is very focused and consistent (S1, S8-S9), but when the vision is shakier it either makes it seem none of the characterisation is even there, or has it contradict itself all the time, which does the actors no favours. This is in part why Moff's approach in S8-S9 worked so much better and easier too, because he wasn't actually really doing character development so much as character exploration (instead of "10 is like X at first, but becomes Y" it's more "Clara is like X - what does that mean in Y scenario?") and in a show that does a new plot/setting/situation most episodes, that really makes things smoother.

The big thing with RTD on Who is, yeah, he's blackpilled, a fantastic writer, and has a great sense of character, but was more interested in populism, so he continuously set great stuff up but then brushed it aside in favour of cheers. His unrestrained work (like COE or Cucumber) is clearly superior because of that imo.

>>104534

Yeah Chib should be the one saying those lines, her saying the "it's accessible!" lines makes perfect sense just as him saying the "it honours old Who" lines make sense, don't cross the streams.


 No.104538

File: fd52f1fb2157b89⋯.png (468.2 KB, 630x469, 90:67, 1528851377819.png)


 No.104539

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


 No.104540

>>104526

imagine that. from that point on, the doctor knowing he'll end up killing the humans. how would he cope? does he already suspect it?


 No.104541

>>104540

I think they'd have to somehow save it as a reveal for the S1 finale instead of Dr always knowing, though that stretches credibility a bit.


 No.104542

File: a72a811551cb7d5⋯.jpg (284.34 KB, 1615x998, 1615:998, schedule - Copy.jpg)

I know Morph will be AWOL soon, but Ingiga, maybe even Sloath, TheOncomingStorm, anyone else interested, any and all RTDfans, the stream will host Utopia | The Sound of Drums soon…20 minutes? 1 hour 20 minutes?


 No.104543

>>104542

ill show up if it's 20m but im not fussed


 No.104544

File: 78c64424da1a68c⋯.png (28.12 KB, 437x151, 437:151, Screen Shot 2018-10-01 at ….png)

morph


 No.104545

You know what's really funny? Even after defeating the master and undoing the Year That Never Was, humanity STILL becomes the Toclafane. 10/Martha just prevented the Toclafane travelling back in time. Humanity still ends as floaty mutiliation death balls in space. And the episode doesn't address that AT ALL.


 No.104546

File: 3376e6c8fa8f855⋯.jpg (135.64 KB, 1088x1088, 1:1, DNeCHLKXkAAgF_h.jpg orig.jpg)

Utopia


 No.104547

File: 0b0ff5fc26eb6e8⋯.jpeg (148.02 KB, 976x549, 16:9, tme1.jpeg)

File: aad2720f7b45d55⋯.jpeg (39.54 KB, 800x450, 16:9, tme2.jpeg)

Is The Metaphysical Engine the worst episode of NuWho? Biggest pile of pretentious pseudo-intellectual wank that i've ever had the displeasure of sitting through. Even for Class this was really really bad. Worse than anything early Torchwood spat out without the charmingly randy overtures. It's not even so bad it's good like Kill the Moon or Love and Monsters, it's just fucking awful and self-impressed. The idea of travelling through realms of thought is interesting enough but so many new pointless elements are thrown in that don't make any sense. What is the Quill goddess and why is it only important now? Who are the Law and why should I care? Arn Heaven? It doesn't matter because it's just pretext for some high-school tier philosophical musings that make you want to neck yourself because they are so irrelevant and dumb. I think that this episode has robbed something from me and I strongly feel that it should never have been created.

>>104542

Where is this stream?


 No.104548

>>104547

live fast die young bad girls do it well


 No.104549

>>104547

What are your thoughts on Love & Monsters?


 No.104550

>>104542

I can do 20 minutes

Sloath


 No.104551

>>104547

Never even finished this episode. Then I came on /who/ and everyone was like "WTF this one was actually great."


 No.104552

>>104547

>Where is this stream?

https://cytu.be/r/casualwhostream

>>104550

20m it is!!!


 No.104553

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

lol


 No.104554

>>104547

>without the charmingly randy overtures

Isn't there an entire scene in that episode where she fucks the shit out of the black dude?


 No.104555

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

oh no no no…


 No.104556

Soundcloud embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Missy audio trailer


 No.104557

File: 36c24f7bc4e8279⋯.png (61.69 KB, 1200x675, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)

DWE of this stock photo?


 No.104558

>>104554

yeah, she got blacked it was great. Second best sex scene in that show, after the shadowkin one


 No.104559

>>104557

series 2 promos


 No.104560

>>104556

Missed a trick with the potential "tell you what, I'm a master in almost every art" or something similar in that first line.

This genuinely sounds good desu


 No.104561

Sloath? stream?


 No.104562

WE'RE ABOUT TO START UTOPIA AND SOUND OF DRUMS NOW IN STREAM


 No.104563

>>104549

The stuff with L.I.N.D.A is actually great. The Abzorbaloff was pretty stupid but it was a Blue Peter contest so the kid that designed it was probably over the moon that it got on the telly. It's bad but for good reasons, it's just too wacky. It's not bad because it overreached or tried to do something clever which is where for me something becomes unwatchable. At the end of the day I prefer an episode that is bad but memorable to one that's just okay but utterly forgettable.

>>104551

The only episodes worth watching were The Coach with The Dragon Tattoo, Nightvisiting and Detained, Nightvisiting being the clear stand-out with a really great alien design.


 No.104564

>>104548

I understand this reference. I'd unironically prefer MIA to Sia.


 No.104565

Big Finish "Doctor Who" isn't Doctor Who. It's just noise. Any enjoyment you get from it is an auditory placebo effect from it being labelled Doctor Who.


 No.104566

File: a941b90ae398100⋯.jpg (42.21 KB, 443x332, 443:332, IMG_0990.JPG)

What's the deal with Peel. Give me the Peelpill.


 No.104567


 No.104568


 No.104569

When will Doctor Who have a sincere pro-abortion, anti-natalist episode?

This is why Clara should have had a spinoff, Forest of the Night proves she's exactly the sort of person who would rather peacefully euthanise a baby than condemn them to an unsustainable existence.


 No.104570

Time Lord, Last Of.


 No.104571

File: 3a03d1bfa0d2078⋯.png (382.27 KB, 692x456, 173:114, ClipboardImage.png)

Showrunner, Last Of.


 No.104572

>>104570

Christmas, must be.


 No.104573

does anyone know where i can get "Doctor Who: The Complete History" without paying for it??


 No.104574

Pavid Tenpaldi


 No.104575

File: 81e3344c6f224a6⋯.jpg (103.73 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, WHERE IS HIS LEG.jpg)


 No.104576

nilsos idea of a holiday is laying brick slabs instead of concrete


 No.104577

>>104576

Stop this, cats.


 No.104578

"something more could have been done with it" encapsulates all nuwho


 No.104579

>>104577

First you hack my Twitter and pretend to be me "back from holiday", then you adopt my flag and insult innocent /who/res? For shame. Let me leave /who/ forerver in peace.


 No.104580

I'm het. Always have been. And I'm getting a little sick of people calling me gay as I view that as queer erasure of those who are actaully gay.


 No.104581

im gay


 No.104582

>>104581

Stop false-flagging as me pretending to be Cats. It makes me look petty.


 No.104583

im gay


 No.104584

back from holy gay


 No.104585

starting to think Nilso isn't gay


 No.104586

File: 265a638c91e09ab⋯.png (1.88 MB, 1600x908, 400:227, 1519331673631.png)


 No.104587

>>104585

crazy talk


 No.104588

01:25:27] kindanonymous: gary johnson: what is a seppo?


 No.104589

>>104588

you forgot the opening square bracket and this post is RUINED


 No.104590

File: cec4e16b372cdc0⋯.png (244.14 KB, 512x351, 512:351, 1509475646291.png)

One day, I shall cum black.


 No.104591

File: 3426593dc8c881a⋯.jpg (21.77 KB, 489x275, 489:275, 1509475726734.jpg)

Yes, one day I shall cum black.


 No.104592

>>104578

I agree, so many areas ripe for expanding on like the Weeping Angels and River Song.


 No.104593


 No.104594

>>104593

Pretty sure that's the 13th variant really.


 No.104595

>>104594

Dohohohoh smartarse!


 No.104596

I am actually back from a short holiday. How has everyone been?


 No.104597

>>104596

stream


 No.104598

File: 61c5c82f6daa1a0⋯.gif (1.05 MB, 500x250, 2:1, yes.gif)

Steven Moffat: I'm phoning you from series 10.

Doctor Who General: I don't…

Steven Moffat: From before I got replaced. I mean it's all still to happen for me. It's coming. Oh, it's a-coming.

Steven Moffat: Not long now. I can feel it.

Doctor Who General: Why? Why would you do this?

Steven Moffat: Because I think it's going to be a whopper, and I think you might be scared. And however scared you are, /who/, the man you are with right now, the man I hope you are with, believe me, he is more scared than anything you can imagine right now and he, he needs you.

Chris Chibnall: So who is it?

Steven Moffat: Is that Chris?

Chris Chibnall: Is that Steven?

Doctor Who General: Yes.

Steven Moffat: He sounds bald. Please tell me I didn't get bald. Anything but bald. I had great hair. Oh, is he wearing a toupee?

Doctor Who General: Yes.

Steven Moffat: /who/, please, hey, for me, help him. Go on. And don't be afraid. Goodbye, /who/. Miss ya.


 No.104599

I'd love to hear Moffat's uncensored, candid responses to every Series 11 episode.


 No.104600

>>104599

RTD shitting on Moff's 50th on the radio was hilarious.


 No.104601

Geez have there been some great posts in the last few threads. You know who you are

>>104566

He's a nice dude and a meh writer with some particularly infamously bad novels. The Wilderness years (and probably NuWho as well) would have been completely completely different if the Nation estate had picked someone other than Peel to be their exclusive novelist, and I think it's kinda bullshit that they didn't apply similar restrictions to Big Finish. Peel was one of the few Dr Who writers to get back to me quickly with a positive answer when I was soliciting for Unbound; he seemed really happy to get the chance to write for Who again, and his story (which he delivered within a week!) was pretty damn good even if it did have weird pre teen sexuality undertones iirc. I haven't read his Doctor Omega stuff, at least in part because I'm annoyed he got there first, but I appreciate that it exists.


 No.104602

>>104601

I noticed that there was a bit of "that" in War of the Daleks between Sam and a crewman. Weird stuff.


 No.104603

File: dbd06215cb9979b⋯.png (151.3 KB, 886x1181, 886:1181, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.104604

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

UH

LADS


 No.104605

>>104604

That's an old fan made one.


 No.104606

File: 9ca7b5e10dc1c3c⋯.png (546.27 KB, 918x491, 918:491, cadffc9289684fcf7f85b005ec….png)

File: dbd06215cb9979b⋯.jpg (151.3 KB, 886x1181, 886:1181, DoMazvnWkAAmarP.jpg)

>>104604

Fucking forgot to attach the images


 No.104607

File: 839ed75536ea726⋯.jpg (404.32 KB, 750x733, 750:733, fag1536446812215.jpg)


 No.104608

>>104605

Forgot to post the comparison between the images in >>104606

Bit of a coincidence, isn't it?


 No.104609

>>104606

It would make sense considering that title sequence was designed by Stuart Manning who has done artwork for Radio Times.


 No.104610

1 2 3 1 2 3 3


 No.104611

>>104610

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10. Hook.


 No.104612

>>104610

What Did He Mean By This?


 No.104613

A vote for Trump was a vote for hundreds of innocent children to be murdered.


 No.104614

>>104613

Yeah, ok


 No.104615

>>104613

No, cuz Trump is anti-abortion


 No.104616

>>104609

ahh, you know what, that does make sense


 No.104617

>>104600

do you have a link to it?


 No.104618

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>104617

Just looked it up myself


 No.104619

>>104615

He'd rather the kids get killed in school than in the womb.


 No.104620

>>104618

oh. I sorta just figured it would be hard to find, shouldve googled it myself. Thanks a lot though n8!


 No.104621

Jodie's Graham Norton episode in stream!


 No.104622

>>104573

Pinch a copy from Smiths


 No.104623

>>104528

>wiki

This sounds like a job for NightmareofEden! I redirected the page. Not sure which other pages, if any, this applies to though.


 No.104624

>13 Words About the 13th Doctor's First Episode

>Funny, fast, smart, exciting, bright, colourful, sad, happy, urban, electric, quirky, action-packed, brexit


 No.104625

>>104623

>This sounds like a job for NightmareofEden!

this post is SO NightmareofEden it hurts


 No.104626

>>104624

One of these things is…


 No.104627

>>104625

I hurt all the time, so I understand that.


 No.104628

>>104624

>Funny, fast, smart, exciting, bright, colourful, sad, happy, urban, electric, quirky, action-packed, brexit

>generic, generic, generic, generic, generic, generic, generic, generic, generic, generic, generic, generic, brexit


 No.104629

File: 9edd08f4ef418ea⋯.jpg (17.55 KB, 338x435, 338:435, 1529081340387.jpg)

>>104623

>This sounds like a job for NightmareofEden!


 No.104630

>>104629

I use the wiki way too much. I’ve actually been in thread a lot recently though, I just don’t usually declare myself because I have no reason to normally. I just did it then because the wiki was mentioned.


 No.104631

File: 082b357e6197d29⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 32.9 KB, 612x312, 51:26, 1529081340387 - Copy.jpg)


 No.104632

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

NightmareofEden in the wiki!


 No.104633

>>104631

I saw you all talking about me in stream btw. Registered the name ‘AliveBabies’ because ‘DeadBabies’ was taken.


 No.104634

>>104630

Just genuinely interested here, why do you use the wiki more than /who/ itself? What do you think about doing that? This isn't me trying to trap you into a conversation point where I criticise you or anything, I'm just legit interested. I assume you like the humour here a lot since you clearly adore the wiki. How long have you been around anyway, post S10 airing maybe? Excited for any BF releases this month? I'm very hype for I Am The Master.


 No.104635

File: 1eeca51654364df⋯.jpg (10.43 KB, 320x180, 16:9, poo.jpg)


 No.104636

>>104633

What the fuck mate, seriously? Are you fifteen? Dead baby humour? Grow up…


 No.104637

>>104634

I use the wiki mostly to look up pages on stories I’ve just recently read/watched/listened to or notable events in /who/story. I’m more ACTIVE on it than here, but I lurk here, and have recently started actually posting quite frequently, but, since I’m anon here and not on the wiki, it still looks like I’m using that more. As for Big Finish, I pre-ordered I Am the Master. Looks GOAT.


 No.104638

>>104636

Don’t know if you’re b8ing me, but it’s a reference to a joke from another thread about it being a good stream name because it’s the only thing you can’t joke about.


 No.104639

>>104638

Why do you think ‘Dead Babies’ was taken? It’s a reference to a previous /who/ post.


 No.104640

>>104639

Oh, for context btw, a user said they didn’t want to use stream because they didn’t want a username that would inevitably be overanalysed/mocked/whatever, so somebody jokingly suggested they register that name. Seems

somebody took the advice, so I made a variation on the joke.


 No.104641

File: 0925eaf255cecb8⋯.jpg (92.35 KB, 960x540, 16:9, 5823ce5.jpg)

dwe?


 No.104642

>>104640

I can understand your thought process as you've outlined it but it's not something that would likely have any comedic value to anyone else (and I suspect even yourself, honestly), and more like to achieve the opposite of the goals of the user who originated the idea of a username not being mocked, because using a username riffing off such a stupid teenage edgy humour thing like that absolutely invites jeering and mockery. It also presupposes others being familiar with a previous /who/ post and honestly you'd be surprised how few users have encyclopaedic memory of every damn post here.

>>104637

Have you been around when m/any events happened? I like plumbing the archives sometimes to see old events and threads. Do you pay for BF in general? I do for some stuff (generally young ranges I wanna support, like Eve Myles' new horror thing, or TW and River when they started) but ever since making the mistake of preordering WarDoc audios and getting more and more cynical about BF I've cared less and less to.


 No.104643

>>104641

>equating an oppressed minority with powerful and abusive white men

Hoodie's entire political thought process?


 No.104644

>>104643

hoodie


 No.104645

>>104642

> …and more like to achieve the opposite of the goals of the user who originated the idea of a username not being mocked, because using a username riffing off such a stupid teenage edgy humour thing like that absolutely invites jeering and mockery.

Well, the suggestion wasn’t exactly made in deadly earnest. Also, I’m not the one with the username DeadBabies, that’s somebody else, not sure who. I took AliveBabies.


 No.104646

>>104644

t. Neo


 No.104647

>>104645

That's why I said

>because using a username riffing off such a stupid teenage edgy humour thing like that absolutely invites jeering and mockery.

Riffing off, ie referencing, playing off, developing ostensibly to comic effect. Why not just "NightmareOfEden" if you were going to publicly identify what stream account was yours anyway?


 No.104648

File: c32239e7d10093c⋯.png (456.08 KB, 640x640, 1:1, 1509476342644.png)

>r-read my last ever dr who story! for real this time! only in humble bundle!


 No.104649

We don't know anything, not a slightest bit of detail from half of the S11 episodes.


 No.104650

Why the FUCK is the thread dead?


 No.104651

>>104648

Last Doctor Who! For realsies!


 No.104652

>>104650

Morph left.


 No.104653

File: 8df65cdaaa93eaa⋯.jpg (45.61 KB, 604x454, 302:227, deathworm.jpg)


 No.104654

Morph left, but Morph "right"…if you catch my meaning.


 No.104655

>>104650

It's reflecting its namesake.


 No.104656

>>104655

based ingiga


 No.104657

Because he's your grandson.


 No.104658

Why the FUCK does nobody talk about the S18 burgundy outfit


 No.104659

Screw you,

PETAL!


 No.104660

Because he's your morphant


 No.104661

Morph likes "apolitical" Doctor Who, the way it was back in the good old 70s


 No.104662

Morph's annoyed by the Moff era's digs at Trump and Hitler. He prefers the apolitical days of RTD, the days of episodes like Aliens of London | World War Three, The Christmas Invasion, The Sound of Drums | Last of the Time Lords, Planet of the Ood, and The End of Time.


 No.104663

when we woke up a chib was pissing on our ratings. hold me moffat


 No.104664

It was a cold wet night in December

Less than a year ago,

There was a Morphant in a general

We didn't know how far he'd go,

An old /who/re took a new one

Into /who/'s community,

It started off a legend

That no other could replace.

Morphant in distress,

Let's all answer his S.O.S!

Morphant in distress,

Bring him back now, we won't take less.


 No.104665

>>104663

based.


 No.104666


 No.104667

Morph is the Jack Graham of /who/,


 No.104668

>>104667

This could be a compliment or an insult


 No.104669

Morph is the Jack Graham

Ingiga is the Sandy

Broken Mirrors is the Shana Wolstein lol


 No.104670

the authorial intent wasnt real! it was just a concept!


 No.104671

i genuinely prefer the midnight play line/adlib of "[it] was just a concept!" over the actual epi's version of "it was a concept"


 No.104672

File: 8dd8a4ed88a1b93⋯.webm (8.84 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, wasjustaconcept.webm)


 No.104673

File: 874c1ebd85d2b92⋯.jpg (24.04 KB, 600x334, 300:167, w7-600x334.jpg)

Sia: I'm gonna swing from the chandelier, from the chandelier

I'm gonna live like tomorrow doesn't exist

Like it doesn't exist

I'm gonna fly like a bird through the night, feel my tears as they dry

I'm gonna swing from the chandelier, from the chandelier

Chibnall:

ratgam!1


 No.104674

File: dbe43d02324ea02⋯.png (332.64 KB, 417x460, 417:460, ratjam2.png)


 No.104675

>>104674

wht was owen thinking


 No.104676

>>104658

I think the problem with the series 18 outfit is that on crt tv's the colors wash together. Combine that with the color palette used back then and it looks uninspired despite the actual outfit being kino.

Consider this: during TARDIS scenes and when Davison wears it briefly in his first story, the colors pop so much better and it works.

If any season needs an hd remaster, its that one. The outfit alone would look so much better.


 No.104677

File: 790ded0e5e1cbc5⋯.png (1.39 MB, 901x884, 53:52, toshowen.png)

jam


 No.104678

>>104677

I'm just getting proven right time after time. Tosh is, has always been and will always be best girl.


 No.104679

>>104662

great post


 No.104680

>>104676

>>104658

I've probably posted before about that outfit being my favourite, and I think that's true about old TVs. It always makes me happy when I see fan art or something involving the burgundy outfit


 No.104681

>>104649

It's kind of exciting, not knowing what's coming at all, but simultaneously, I remember last year being fuckin hyped for the monks, and mondasian cybermen, and I guess speculating on what's coming. This time last year, I had a vision for what Series 10 would be like, I had seen the set pics of "truth police" vans or whatever they were called, I had seen fake spoilers about what WEaT was gonna be about, which were somehow less bizarre than what would eventually go on screen (in a good way)….

This time round, I'm thinking… mpreg? Rosa Parks? I can imagine how Chibnall might approach those topics… I'm excited for the Witch episode, because I like that period of history, James I, I think Alan Cumming will be great…. but not much speculation, theories, things like that.

What I will say though, is that someone put together a thing of which shots from the trailer were from which episodes, using evidence based on the characters clothes etc… And Episode 2: Ghost Monument seems mental. Spoilers ahead:

The ribbons, the spaceship that comes out of hyperspace and lands on the desert, the soldiers that shoot at the gang but miss every time, the electronic shit on people's faces are all from episode 2


 No.104682

the guy from reddit discord who seen the episode for reals says that music is VERY subtle and most of it is background atmospheric stuff, there isn't even an theme which you could identify and separate from the rest


 No.104683

>>104682

I'll miss Marigold desu. Not many shows have a soundtrack like Marigold's


 No.104684

>>104545

In faction paradox (written before the show came back) the last survivors of humanity are all killed by the time lords because they were being given time lord secrets and technology by a renegade time lord. Humanity is saved by the City of the Saved which is similar to another thing in a Master episode, the matrix hyperdrive Missy has in Dark Water.


 No.104685

>>104682

>the era of music being a part of the storytelling instead of just being part of the setting is over

Well, goodbye doctor who proms… It was cool when it would happen.


 No.104686

>based marigold didn't even get a leaving announcement

fuck chibnall


 No.104687

File: 6478099530f7042⋯.jpg (34.42 KB, 493x564, 493:564, 1274980664920.jpg)

>>104682

mfw its going to be the essence of mediocrity


 No.104688

also there's a montage of screwdriver building (predictable) and a very short scene where the doctor picks up her clothes. hi psj


 No.104689


 No.104690

>>104669

>Broken Mirrors is the Shana Wolstein lol

Because I haven't written anything in two years?


 No.104691

>>104681

The Ghost Monument might be kino. What were the scenes of the rest of the trailer from? What's the "blow a kiss and walk away" from? I thought that was Ep 2 as well.


 No.104692

>>104691

At first the person thought it was the mpreg episode, but someone else debunked it, because of the colour of Jodie's shirt. I didn't see anyone come up with another theory about it


 No.104693

>>104691

>chibnall episode

>kino

pick one


 No.104694

>>104693

adrift


 No.104695

Interestingly, The trailer only appears to use shots from 5 episodes. Of the other 5 episodes not appearing in the trailer, we know there is a witch episode, a modern day sheffield episode, and an episode filmed in Southern Spain, set in the past


 No.104696

File: 1b13f2e5dcd0528⋯.jpg (27.66 KB, 700x287, 100:41, doctor-who-season-11-700x2….jpg)

>>104695

Isn't this from the 2nd Sheffield episode?


 No.104697

File: e72078c61a587cd⋯.png (11.19 KB, 594x126, 33:7, GOATOR WHO.png)

>>104695

stoked


 No.104698

>>104696

ah yes, you're right. But that episode does seem to be ignored mostly. Only 1 or 2 shots


 No.104699

>>104696

Maybe. I didn't know there were 2 separate Sheffield eps. That's kinda cool.


 No.104700

>>104699

Sheffield is supposed to be new "hub" for S11, like powell estate was for S1.


 No.104701

>>104700

>Sheffield

isn't it a dump?


 No.104702

Here are some statements teasing the upcoming episode, The Woman Who Fell To Earth. Some are lies. Some are true. Which of these statements do you think are true? Vote w/ reactions! :)

:zero: There is a simple (think BROADCHURCH-style) titles for "Doctor Who" before the proper title sequence reveal for ep2

:one: No TARDIS or title sequence at all (excluding credits).

:two: Some of the Doctor Who theme is played in the first 10 minutes

:three: In 13's post-regen confusion, she squawks like a chicken.

:four: The monster has a foot fetish

:five: Ryan's dyspraxia forms the framing of the story

:six: Sia is featured

:seven: In 13's post-regen confusion, she sticks her finger up her nose

:eight: The monster gets a face full of salad.

:nine: Ryan is a Let's Play YouTuber


 No.104703

>>104702

My guesses.

True:

0, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9

False:

1, 3, 6


 No.104704

>>104702

NO THEME FOR EP 1

we are DOOMED

DOOMED


 No.104705

>>104702

I think they're all true.


 No.104706

>>104705

me too

I have a feeling


 No.104707


 No.104709

File: 313e1966a83784d⋯.png (13.61 KB, 902x74, 451:37, ClipboardImage.png)

Caught.


 No.104710

>>104709

Name and shame! Name and shaaame!


 No.104711

>>104707

have you seen the ep PCJ?


 No.104712

i've heard that part of the theme is played in the episode


 No.104713

File: 2700e1c9c2d7061⋯.jpg (30.24 KB, 341x512, 341:512, laughing tennant davies.jpg)

>>104598

>He sounds bald. Please tell me I didn't get bald. Anything but bald. I had great hair. Oh, is he wearing a toupee?


 No.104714

>>104598

I love this


 No.104715

File: ec2eabd314ff7a7⋯.png (120.63 KB, 444x331, 444:331, ClipboardImage.png)

BREAKING:

Actress Carole Ann Ford, known to portray Susan Foreman, the Doctor's granddaughter since the show's original run in 1963, was found today sleeping in her room because she was tired and needed some sleep lmao

Rest in peace Carole


 No.104716

>>104598

aww

this is lovely


 No.104717

>>104715

10/10 would tussle her hair lightly and smile before draping a blanket over her and tip toe-ing out of the room.


 No.104718

>>104700

Has anyone on /who/ actually been to Sheffield?


 No.104719

>>104718

Nilso perhaps


 No.104720

>>104718

Mcganon mentioned she passed through it once during a stream I believe. Least I think it was her.


 No.104721

>>104604

>video is unavailable

???


 No.104722

>>104721

It wasnt unavailable earlier, which makes this weirder


 No.104723

Nilsos favourite brothel is in Sheffield


 No.104724

>>104722

Does it say a reason why it was removed (e.g. copyright)? My shit's fucked and the message isn't showing.


 No.104725

File: a14c0374a74d7dd⋯.png (11.87 KB, 479x311, 479:311, Screen Shot 2018-10-01 at ….png)

>>104724

no info, and no link to the video on youtube to check either


 No.104726

>>104685

i completely forgot about the proms. I cannot describe how disappointed I am in this moment


 No.104727


 No.104728

>>104727

with that one I get "an error occurred, please try again later"


 No.104729

File: fd8b09600d80638⋯.png (878.5 KB, 735x808, 735:808, fizzy straw.png)

Part of me is so ready for everyone to hate the shit out of the new soundtrack. The more catastrophic mistakes Chibnall has made that incite widespread disappointment, the better. It's the only way we can hope to stop BBC Worldwide's five year plan to ruin Doctor Who.


 No.104730

Vimeo embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>104604

>>104606

was it this?


 No.104731

>nilso posts a youtube video to /who/

>video gets taken down that same day

hmmmmm


 No.104732

File: c1a1d95c24bb9fa⋯.jpeg (193.04 KB, 827x1169, 827:1169, manning_the dead planet.jpeg)

File: 168b33a1907e6eb⋯.jpeg (208.28 KB, 827x1169, 827:1169, manning_the dead planet m….jpeg)

>>104604

>>104606

>>104730

speaking of stuart


 No.104733

>>104731

It's a fucking conspiracy!

Alternatively maybe Stuart Manning took it down because that Radio Times cover came out today and he suddenly freaked out that people would notice he ripped himself off?


 No.104734

what would you do if doctor who did a poo


 No.104735

>>104733

it's still on vimeo >>104730


 No.104736

>>104733

took it down because they are in fact using it, so it's a s11 spoiler now


 No.104737

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


 No.104738

File: 974d4c887015ff2⋯.png (54.13 KB, 587x233, 587:233, stuartmight.png)

yes please


 No.104739

>>104738

He's waiting to see if it's shit or kino. Good man.


 No.104740

>>104690

Not quite.


 No.104741

Human Nature|The Family of Blood is the peak of NuWho.

Prove me wrong.


 No.104742

>>104741

Sleep No More would disagree with you.


 No.104743

Rat jam.


 No.104744

Rat | Jam


 No.104745

>>104742

Sleep No More is a legitimately experimental Who episode.


 No.104746

>>104745

I know.


 No.104747

ima chib fan i like a ratjam

ima chib fan i like a ratjam


 No.104748

come on and slam


 No.104749

Soundcloud embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Are there any Doctor Who stories that improve when played at a different speed to normal


 No.104750

File: 3c6889f1d7fe7c7⋯.jpg (436.69 KB, 520x670, 52:67, atomsinfinite1.jpg)

File: b222119b5fc0cd9⋯.jpg (413.8 KB, 520x670, 52:67, atomsinfinite2.jpg)

File: 9763712e32bfd84⋯.jpg (449.78 KB, 520x670, 52:67, atomsinfinite3.jpg)

File: 7bee64127555d65⋯.jpg (430.97 KB, 520x670, 52:67, atomsinfinite4.jpg)

File: 4220e54a93d9fc3⋯.jpg (445.6 KB, 520x670, 52:67, atomsinfinite5.jpg)


 No.104751

File: 55f618cbfeeac74⋯.jpg (446.02 KB, 520x670, 52:67, atomsinfinite6.jpg)

>>104750

Didn't we used to be able to post 6 images in one go? Whatever happened to that?


 No.104752

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

The writing was bad.


 No.104753

File: 47133ea50d9a933⋯.jpg (34.07 KB, 400x400, 1:1, unamusedcapy.jpg)

>TARDIS Eruditorum will return on December 31st.


 No.104754

The end of Series 3 marked the point at which Ten's arrogance boiled over into outright contempt for humanity. While most of the Master's most recent butchery was undone by the Reset Button, he still murdered a sitting U.S. President, the entire British cabinet, and who knows how many "little people," and the Doctor never once even considered the possibility that humans were entitled to have a say in his punishment. No, it was to be house arrest, mainly so the Doctor wouldn't feel quite so lonely.


 No.104755

dwe of every person whos telling kanye he's an idiot could literally only dream of having the same amount of impact on culture and the world that he had and continues to have?


 No.104756

>>104754

nah dude he was still sad over rose you can't blame someone when their heart has been broken :((((((((((((((((((((((((((


 No.104757

>>104756

Good old Rose!


 No.104758

>>104754

I always saw the fact that Ten got complete control over The Master's fate, despite Martha's family vowing to kill him, as him having humans completely at his mercy. Yes The Master forcibly takes control over humans, but it's the Doctor who ultimately decides their fates and the fate of those who oppose them. If he wanted to he could just as easily let Humanity become extinct then and there. He just chooses not to for his own sake: his only purpose at this point is to preserve humanity.

Ten being revived by just people thinking of his name is taking this point to the extreme of satire. He is God.


 No.104759

>>104758

big agree, I always felt off about 10 deciding that humanity isn't allowed to kill their oppressive ruler, despite the chaos that would have ensued from the dead president and cabinet.


 No.104760

>>104749

Any classic who


 No.104761

File: 230eb6a4ec40dbd⋯.gif (375.57 KB, 500x281, 500:281, 10dramaticflames.gif)

>>104754

>>104758

>>104759

in the context of coming right after "the second coming", the thesis statement of RTD's tenure seems to be "Why bother with Jesus when we have Doctor Who?"


 No.104762

File: bdbc80f7f8e8e23⋯.jpg (1.55 MB, 2008x3047, 2008:3047, manylives1.jpg)

File: c14af109cfd10b9⋯.jpg (544.81 KB, 2008x3047, 2008:3047, manylives2.jpg)

File: b59c9d40d9f2920⋯.jpg (583.77 KB, 2008x3047, 2008:3047, manylives3.jpg)

File: 0389ce6ceabfab0⋯.jpg (527.85 KB, 2008x3047, 2008:3047, manylives4.jpg)

File: d626e0708831702⋯.jpg (712.21 KB, 2008x3047, 2008:3047, manylives5.jpg)

The 12 to 13 regeneration, now with interior monologue.


 No.104763

>>104755

>people telling Kanye he’s misusing his influence

>”you’re just jealous!!!”

No shit


 No.104764

File: 983f3f512ee901a⋯.jpg (773.97 KB, 2008x3047, 2008:3047, manylives6.jpg)

>>104762

>We're probably crashing. We usually are about now."

ah dear


 No.104765

>>104763

>>people telling Kanye he’s misusing his influence

theres just as much people telling kanye he has delusions of grandeur as there are saying he's misusing his influence, im talking about the former.


 No.104766

remember when murray used RTD music during jodies first scene, that was kino.


 No.104767

>>104766

I wonder if that was chib’s choice


 No.104768

File: a2e7c38aa23679c⋯.jpg (42.5 KB, 331x457, 331:457, bus poster.JPG)

Saw Doctor Who posters in bus stops for the first ever time in my country today.


 No.104769

>>104768

what's your country


 No.104770

>>104769

Nilsonia


 No.104771

>>104768

What is she even meant to be doing here? Trying to sonic her tit?


 No.104772

>>104769

New Zealand.


 No.104773

File: ee0662653f0b427⋯.jpg (26.33 KB, 696x575, 696:575, fake.jpg)

>>104770

This man is a FAKE


 No.104774

>>104767

doubt it, i honestly interpret that scene just as much if not more of a send off to gold than a welcome for jodie


 No.104775

File: 6708fe9073526b8⋯.jpg (125.43 KB, 1000x562, 500:281, d13-10r-c041.jpg)

>>104762

art is good, but man.. this writing is the laziest shit


 No.104776

the art was good but the writing was bad


 No.104777

>>104776

s11, is that you?


 No.104778

nilsos dick was good but the protection was bad

i'm pregnant


 No.104779

File: c68796913a84092⋯.png (135.37 KB, 268x475, 268:475, 1510391839896.png)

FlazzerBung


 No.104780

nilsos pussy is so tight, when morph comes over he has to bring a crowbar


 No.104781

>>104778

>>104780

Does Nilso have a dick or a pussy? Make up your mind.


 No.104782

>>104781

he has both and i respect him for that greatly.


 No.104783


 No.104784

There’s a tv show and set of books I peruse called doctor who


 No.104785

>>104784

>set of books

LOL


 No.104786

>>104784

no comics?


 No.104787

I have a dick, a pussy, and a third genital that cannot be described in any human language. Merely viewing it causes you to go insane. That's why Cheetah's the way he is.


 No.104788

File: aca2f274c2ab1b4⋯.jpg (30.81 KB, 620x413, 620:413, Morph-410492.jpg)

morph


 No.104789

File: b8b89d5aaa797e8⋯.jpg (95 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, maxresdefault.jpg)

nilsos fetish


 No.104790

File: 1d4bec3be121917⋯.jpg (50.86 KB, 320x427, 320:427, cake.jpg.320x427_q85_crop_….jpg)


 No.104791

File: 0c5e09312e43331⋯.png (686.43 KB, 686x582, 343:291, 1537446805665.png)


 No.104792

MORE MORPH


 No.104793

>>104791

im not even sloath! im cats!


 No.104794

File: 828ad13c9f2adc4⋯.jpg (527.08 KB, 800x800, 1:1, 41744670_1045409915630138_….jpg)

abstract


 No.104795

File: f1ea67acc9b1a75⋯.jpg (117.89 KB, 640x682, 320:341, 37539199_219246615607968_3….jpg)

gripping nilsos wood


 No.104796

File: f126c3f33e6eab9⋯.jpg (67.31 KB, 640x623, 640:623, 35617030_1890906437597913_….jpg)

unf


 No.104797

File: 2cce6d759135483⋯.jpg (220.24 KB, 1080x1080, 1:1, 40326539_1035539249939514_….jpg)

ride it


 No.104798

File: 68455075780849e⋯.jpg (44.99 KB, 630x420, 3:2, Morph-Day-4-630x420.jpg)

bursting out of a cake for nilsos birthday


 No.104799

>>104785

That’s what doctor who was when the show died


 No.104800

>>104799

and it was gay


 No.104801

>>104779

I don't know who this character is but it looks like they play with lego!!


 No.104802

File: b758d8d7eed6c8f⋯.png (326.29 KB, 779x690, 779:690, ClipboardImage.png)

wow i think cap is right guys…


 No.104803

kanye's maga shit is just him being stubborn. he can't accept that his sacramento rant about trump was wrong, bad, and the product of mental illness, so he comes up with these contrived reasons why he likes trump but totally not his policies guys!!!


 No.104804

File: 60f70d37b36a341⋯.png (128.04 KB, 870x580, 3:2, B&.png)

ah, good times


 No.104805

>>104804

>all boards

disgusting mods


 No.104806

>>104805

that was my only post too


 No.104807

>>104802

john maddening


 No.104808

File: e983c555eb789c1⋯.jpg (36.74 KB, 960x640, 3:2, FL_01_SickOfIt_S01-e153736….jpg)

The Day of The Doctor (2013)


 No.104809

File: 44411c67a5dd614⋯.jpg (474.12 KB, 520x670, 52:67, battlewithin1.jpg)

File: bb6066be01ff2eb⋯.jpg (488.46 KB, 520x670, 52:67, battlewithin2.jpg)

File: 0a7b1b832ba888b⋯.jpg (469.45 KB, 520x670, 52:67, battlewithin3.jpg)

File: 823b01355fe513d⋯.jpg (501.61 KB, 520x670, 52:67, battlewithin4.jpg)

File: 5ff360ea85d5adb⋯.jpg (453.4 KB, 520x670, 52:67, battlewithin5.jpg)

The Dream Lord mk1


 No.104810

>>104802

Hrs right about people who argue by saying “research says this” or “I saw it in an article” but can’t back up their claims

Even worse is when both parties in the one argument do it


 No.104811

File: 2323bb35834bb9d⋯.jpg (129.15 KB, 1000x562, 500:281, d13-10v-c067.jpg)

good morning everyone


 No.104812

what would you do if you opened your door and it was sia and she sung the new doctor who intro for you


 No.104813

>>104812

close the door


 No.104814

>>104813

Second this


 No.104815

what would you do if you opened your door and it was chris chibnall and he sung the new doctor who intro for you


 No.104816

>>104815

just close it, really


 No.104817

>tfw we're missing out on party hat editions on /tv/


 No.104818

and just like that


 No.104819

nilsos future turned to dust


 No.104820

Mr. Chibnall, how would you like your coffee?


 No.104821

>>104820

dusted


 No.104822

It's about time for a Chibnall flag.


 No.104823

Soundcloud embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Radio trailer


 No.104824


 No.104825

>>104824

I don't remember this episode.


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 No.104827

Wouldn't mind a rip of that Season 12 blu-ray tbqh famalam


 No.104828

Is Chibnall a political nihilist?


 No.104829

>>104828

he's pretty active about feminist representation

broadchurch almost exclusively has women in positions of power - the only exceptions I can think of are hardy and the reporter's boss in the first series


 No.104830

>>104828

chibskell


 No.104831

>>104828

do you know any torrent uploaders who would do the season 12 blu ray for me? asking solely because you're russian


 No.104832

File: aaeae8e09b90773⋯.png (11.31 KB, 421x70, 421:70, Screen Shot 2018-10-01 at ….png)

IT'S OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 No.104833

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

IT'S OUT


 No.104834


 No.104835

>>104829

Yeah I know, I was just trying to forge some Chibnall memes. His politics are pretty clear.

>>104831

I don't know for now, but sooner or later it will be on VK or on rutracker. I'll inform the thread when it happens


 No.104836

>Welcome to what I presume is your first alien planet! Dont touch anything

(line from 13 in episode 2)


 No.104837

>>104836

Wow, what a good line.


 No.104838

Where does chibs sit on the authoritarian-libertarian spectrum?


 No.104839

>>104835

>I don't know for now, but sooner or later it will be on VK or on rutracker. I'll inform the thread when it happens

didn't expect you to answer, thanks lol <3

VK is such a fucking based website oh my god


 No.104840

Our showrunner is an NPC.


 No.104841

>>104838

Chibs is a full on dalek


 No.104842

you're such a fuckin chib


 No.104843

i like the cut of your chib


 No.104844

File: 4512d0bc296b7ad⋯.jpg (159.91 KB, 1280x718, 640:359, i love you.jpg)

will we get moments like this in Chib's era?


 No.104845

File: fe9956723bb6002⋯.jpg (619.62 KB, 3264x3264, 1:1, 769ad448a97f032298082d94c1….jpg)

Will we get moments like this in Chub's era?


 No.104846

>>104828

chibcel

>>104832

>pdf

ill keep waiting desu

>>104842

ima chib fan i lie a ratjam


 No.104847

>>104845

why does he think of his balls as vegetable matter but not his dick?


 No.104848

liz needs to stop starting her articles with "it was this day, here's the music that was popular then"


 No.104849

>>104848

literally the entire conceit of eruditorum is based on those


 No.104850

>>104848

unless you mean shes just engaging with the pop tracks instead of more situated stuff of whatever time it was, in which case i get what you mean but they really are a useful method for situating yourself bac in that time


 No.104851

>>104849

music isn't important


 No.104852


 No.104853

>>104848

It's an exploration of how the show fits into British culture bro. It's not just a review with a paragraph of what was in the charts at the start.


 No.104854

>listening to anything in the top 100

>listening to any artist that has a wikipedia page


 No.104855

>>104848

They provide a snapshot of British culture at the time along with the major news events.


 No.104856

>>104853

The Eruditorum gets misinterpreted as a review series all the time alas, El is even explicit in some articles about what she's writing not being her personal take as much as what fits best into the Eruditorum narrative.


 No.104857

>>104856

Does that make Eruditorum a work of fiction?


 No.104858

>>104848

to be fair using charts music is really good at putting you in the mindset of when something came out


 No.104859

>>104857

What? Look, why don't you just read the actual brief if this is confusing you:

>TARDIS Eruditorum is a critical history of Doctor Who and, more broadly, of British history starting in the latter half of the twentieth century. Its structure mirrors that of an episode guide, though this is not to say it is one. Essays on every televised Doctor Who story are presented sequentially, interleaved with various other essays. These include Pop Between Realities essays, which look at things that are not Doctor Who, Time Can Be Rewritten essays, which look at Doctor Who stories set in a different time period from when they were written, and both Outside the Government and You Were Expecting Someone Else essays, which look at things that aren't quite Doctor Who.

>Its goal is to tell the story of Doctor Who as a cultural phenomenon. It is written for an intended audience of people who are familiar with the broad strokes of Doctor Who, but who have not necessarily seen every episode, or indeed any of the classic series. It does not contain episode summaries, and readers interested in given stories are encouraged to go seek them out, but it is no more obtuse to a reader who has not seen a given episode than an average movie review is to someone who hasn't seen the film. It is not primarily a blog about how good a given episode is or isn't, although such opinions may creep through. Its primary goal, however, is to tell one particular history of a half-century of British culture through the idiosyncratic but terribly useful lens of an at times ropy but always clever sci-fi program.


 No.104860

>>104858

not if you don't listen to the charts


 No.104861

>>104860

…I guess so?


 No.104862

File: 178c37cb72c4db9⋯.png (357.17 KB, 490x503, 490:503, jodie 8.png)

>so what music do you listen to?

>oh, you wouldn't know them. I only listen to the finest video game soundtracks and touhou doujin music


 No.104863

File: 635f86cafa7edcd⋯.png (113.09 KB, 340x170, 2:1, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.104864

>>104857

Arguably, somewhat.


 No.104865

https://old.reddit.com/r/doctorwho/comments/9k8sy2/is_there_a_way_to_read_big_finish_audios/

>For anyone interested, I wrote them and this was their response:

>"Thanks for writing in. I'm afraid we're not allowed by the terms of our license to release transcripts, as we don't have a publishing license. Sorry I can't be more help."

Am I wrong or does this make no sense? Doesn't Big Finish still include free scripts with purchases of Main Range audios?


 No.104866

>>104857

Does that make Elizabeth a work of fiction?


 No.104867

>>104865

Correct. Maybe they mean there's something specific to the NewWho deal that prevents them.


 No.104868

top 100 music is scientifically engineered to placate the masses and has no artistic integrity

genuine quality cannot be appreciated by people who are unfamiliar with the field, this applies to all forms of media


 No.104869

>>104868

cringe and bluepilled


 No.104870

File: 2e229669b164fac⋯.jpg (91.04 KB, 315x437, 315:437, Smug_matt_2.jpg)


 No.104871

>>104859

If liz writes things that are not her opinion but something made up to fit a narrative agenda, she's writing a fictional opinion


 No.104872

>>104868

by that logic, democracy does not work


 No.104873

>>104865

I believe subscribers get a free digital copy of the script. There might be a finicky legal distinction between that and releasing a transcript.

Honestly BF need to fix this fucking rights agreement so they can make T-shirts and shit like they know their fans want.


 No.104874

>>104868

>Something cant be created to be as popular as possible and also be good


 No.104875

>>104871

inskel


 No.104876

>>104871

>she's writing a fictional opinion

he's writing a fictional persona

ftfy


 No.104877


 No.104878

>>104868

>genuine quality cannot be appreciated by people who are unfamiliar with the field, this applies to all forms of media

That explains why you claim Death Grips isn't music, skelloid!


 No.104879

>>104876

Oh fuck off you tedious person.


 No.104880

>>104877

Is it just me or does that music sound derivative of 12's theme? Do you think it's stock music or a sampling of segun's work?


 No.104881

>>104879

if you give him a reaction he's more likely to keep doing it


 No.104882

>>104881

I don't usually block people….


 No.104883

>>104877

>first sentence is "I hope you can expect everything you've always loved about Doctor Who"

CHANGE

THE

FUCKING

RECORD


 No.104884

>>104880

Not ambient enough to be Segun


 No.104885

File: b7847daca45dc0d⋯.png (23.07 KB, 601x153, 601:153, ClipboardImage.png)

>>104877

what a based cunt


 No.104886

>>104885

Good old JK


 No.104887

>>104881

I know how the internet works skel, and I am perfectly happy explicitly telling transphobes to fuck off instead of just letting their opinions lie around here.


 No.104888

Chibnall isn't the Best or Worst showrunner. He is the showrunner, lets give him 60 episodes before branding him with an adjective


 No.104889

>>104885

>live

Does he mean live action or does he think Doctor Who is filmed live.


 No.104890


 No.104891

>>104888

Lets not, he sucks.


 No.104892

>>104854

i bet the music you listen to is absolute shite


 No.104893

>>104888

1 episode


 No.104894


 No.104895

>>104894

Find a new tune.


 No.104896


 No.104897

>>104895

Divisive


 No.104898

File: c32239e7d10093c⋯.png (456.08 KB, 640x640, 1:1, 1509476342644.png)

>its my last ever dr who story


 No.104899


 No.104900

>>104896

I voted yes

just remember, the boardies are coming in


 No.104901

>>104900

you are a boardie, judy.


 No.104902

who is erino


 No.104903

Paul Cornell still advertises the mini-series as his last story even after the TUAT novelisation


 No.104904

I like Castrovalva more than I like Deep Breath.


 No.104905

File: 8dd8a4ed88a1b93⋯.webm (8.84 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, wasjustaconcept.webm)


 No.104906


 No.104907

>>104904

How do you feel about dick?


 No.104908

I'm a TERF


 No.104909

>>104904

I like Castro more than I like Pol Pot


 No.104910

>>104909

duh, castro was based


 No.104911

>>104909

Fair enough man, he had a killer beard.


 No.104912

>>104904

I bet you liked when Adric got a boner.


 No.104913

Nilso wishes he had a beard and I'm not talking about facial hair!


 No.104914

File: 3304c894dd490fa⋯.png (125.96 KB, 287x302, 287:302, 3304c894dd490fa6d63e538beb….png)


 No.104915

what if castro was a time lord


 No.104916


 No.104917

>>104913

Time Crash Master's beard


 No.104918

File: 8c7f93b734601ba⋯.png (560.11 KB, 700x479, 700:479, 5 gets a blowjob.png)

Oh adric! Keep sucking! You're gonna make me cum!


 No.104919

>>104916

Beard as a female placeholder gf to hide gayness


 No.104920

>>104917

Precisely the kind of beard I'm talking about.


 No.104921

>>104918

skelly's kind of fantasy


 No.104922

File: 686b9202a3d76ad⋯.png (433.57 KB, 700x527, 700:527, 5 gets a blowjob 2.png)

>>104918

ooh ohhhhhh!!!!!!


 No.104923

>>104918

Don't ruin Davison's only good performance as the Doctor.


 No.104924

>>104919

>placeholder

I'd like to hold Nilso's "place" (genital area) if he consented to such a lewd act.


 No.104925

>>104923

in his weakest script


 No.104926

File: d74508b972ba633⋯.jpg (508.54 KB, 2000x1334, 1000:667, chibnall and strevens.jpg)

I am drowning.

There is no sign of land.

You are coming down with me,

Hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die,

I hope we both die.


 No.104927

>>104923

He was unusually good in Logopolis.


 No.104928

>>104924

you have to be passable lady


 No.104929

27%


 No.104930

>>104929

We want 27% We will take 27%


 No.104931

Put the multi Doctor and other lorewanky episodes in the middle of a series to combat the midseries slump, and keep the finales to whatever specific finale story is going.


 No.104932

>>104931

Eccleston's gonna be in episode 5


 No.104933

final blackpill: if a female doctor wasn't cast then the series would be higher quality because there would be no jodie to offset the fact theres nothing interesting in the series, prompting the showrunner to actually put in effort.


 No.104934

Chinballs will be involved in the #metoo movement and the series will be canceled after episode 4


 No.104935

>>104933

broke: thinking that the scriptwriters wrote anything with the logic "sure it's shit but jodie will make it endearing so that doesn't matter"


 No.104936

>>104933

yes, every critique will be reflected as Cletus behaviour


 No.104937

penultimate blackpill: chibnall likes ratjam


 No.104938

>>104935

I get where kinda's coming from. Given that Chib cast Jodie, he was also desparate not to scare fans away.


 No.104939

>>104935

woke: get scriptwriters that were actually good


 No.104940

Moffat:

>You just want cruelty to beget cruelty. You're not superior to people who were cruel to you. You're just a whole bunch of new cruel people. A whole bunch of new cruel people, being cruel to some other people, who'll end up being cruel to you. The only way anyone can live in peace is if they're prepared to forgive. Why don't you break the cycle? What is it that you actually want? when this war is over, when – when you have the homeland free from humans, what do you think it's going to be like? Do you know? Have you thought about it? Have you given it any consideration? Because you're very close to getting what you want. What's it going to be like? Paint me a picture. Are you going to live in houses? Do you want people to go to work? What'll be holidays? Oh! Will there be music? Do you think people will be allowed to play violins? Who will make the violins? Well? Oh, You don't actually know, do you? Because, just like every other tantruming child in history, Bonnie, you don't actually know what you want. So, let me ask you a question about this brave new world of yours. When you've killed all the bad guys, and it's all perfect and just and fair, when you have finally got it exactly the way you want it, what are you going to do with the people like you? The troublemakers. How are you going to protect your glorious revolution from the next one? maybe you will win. But nobody wins for long. The wheel just keeps turning. So, come on. Break the cycle. Because I'm trying to get you to see. And I'm almost there. Are you ready to play the game? Who's going to be quickest? Who's going to be the luckiest? No, it's not a game, sweetheart, and I mean that most sincerely. Because it's not a game, Kate. This is a scale model of war. Every war ever fought right there in front of you. Because it's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know who's children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken! How many lives shattered! How much blood will spill until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning – sit down and talk! Listen to me, listen. I just – I just want you to think. Do you know what thinking is? It's just a fancy word for changing your mind. Then you will die stupid. Alternatively, you could step away from that box. You could walk right out of that door, and you could stand your revolution down. You're all the same, you screaming kids, you know that? "Look at me, I'm unforgivable." Well here's the unforeseeable, I forgive you. After all you've done. I forgive you. I don't understand? Are you kidding? Me? Of course I understand. I mean, do you call this a war, this funny little thing? This is not a war. I fought in a bigger war than you will ever know. I did worse things than you could ever imagine, and when I close my eyes… I hear more screams than anyone could ever be able to count! And do you know what you do with all that pain? Shall I tell you where you put it? You hold it tight… Til it burns your hand. And you say this – no one else will ever have to live like this. No one else will ever have to feel this pain. Not on my watch.

Chibnall:

>Rat jam!


 No.104941

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

what are /who/ listening to?


 No.104942


 No.104943

File: 48aeaa31227ac74⋯.jpg (35.12 KB, 700x528, 175:132, exitmask.jpg)

We deserve a regeneration episode that actually feels like watching someone die.

>tfw no regeneration story where the Doctor spends a lot of it bedridden, slowly dying, their skin drying up and cracking, blood seeping from their eyes, their hair falling out as they shrivel up, all the while with their companion sat beside the bed holding their hand in fear and sorrow through each sudden spasm of unendurable agony, until finally the Doctor is no more than a lifeless husk reminiscent of the Watcher - like a cocoon


 No.104944

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


 No.104945

>>104935

scriptwriters didnt but chib did


 No.104946


 No.104947

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


 No.104948

>>104941

some incel


 No.104949

>>104933

>prompting the showrunner to actually put in effort.

This is Chibnall we're talking about.


 No.104950

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

 No.104951

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

 No.104952

raaaaaaat jam, you dont have to put on the chib light

Those days are over, you don't have to sell your kino to the night


 No.104953

>>104951

put your trip back on neo


 No.104954

>>104949

the person that took Law and Order scripts and added wigs to the characters, pronto


 No.104955

>>104950

I'm 27 years old. I love this music, I am born 60 years too late


 No.104956

>>104953

>implying there aren't at least 4 big NIN fans here


 No.104957

>>104952

redpill me on ratjam?


 No.104958

RAAAAAAAT JAM, YOU DONT HAVE TO PUT ON THE CHIB LIGHT

THOSE DAYS ARE OVER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SELL YOUR KINO TO THE NIGHT


 No.104959

>>104956

I've been on record saying the NIN was the worst part of Twin Peaks


 No.104960

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

 No.104961

Cucumber episode 6 is a more haunting and resonant depiction of death than anything Doctor Who has even attempted. Why, WHY couldn't we get post-Doctor-Who RTD on Doctor Who.


 No.104962

>>104959

Obviously I'm not talking about you Judy


 No.104963


 No.104964

>>104961

you read rose book?


 No.104965

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

 No.104966

File: 25b60c70e28f8f7⋯.jpg (2.54 MB, 5760x3240, 16:9, 18ea5afa2fa194a53327598ade….jpg)


 No.104967

>>104961

Is that the one with the hammer scene?


 No.104968

>>104958

Raaaaat jam! You don't have to wear that dress tonight.

Walk the streets for viewers you don't care if its wrong or if its right.


 No.104969

logopo


 No.104970

I watched ep 1 of that show with Lynda with an Y


 No.104971

rat jam meme good. any story behind it or just "rat jam funny"?


 No.104972

>>104971

Owen's face


 No.104973

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

 No.104974

File: 5faf8e6f8b92412⋯.jpg (418.18 KB, 2736x1824, 3:2, 72481a6eef606371e3557acebe….jpg)


 No.104975

>>104973

god is a concept


 No.104976

"rat jam" but it's nilso jamming a live rat up his arse on cam


 No.104977

>>104976

This is filth. Stop.


 No.104978

>>104976

Consensually right?


 No.104979

>>104976

yfn file to post


 No.104980

>>104978

can rats consent?


 No.104981

File: 6330ce6929c5279⋯.jpg (59.32 KB, 750x430, 75:43, 2j4gmd.jpg)


 No.104982

File: 853fbd22920cafe⋯.jpg (60.42 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, maxresdefault.jpg)

rape jam


 No.104983

rat spam


 No.104984

>>104978

he's doing it to himself, so yes, there is consent.


 No.104985

>>104984

i meant the rat


 No.104986

>>104984

But he has multiple personalities and the other one regrets it later


 No.104987

File: a4c5a6caa4d510c⋯.png (32.32 KB, 300x250, 6:5, ClipboardImage.png)


 No.104988

>>104984

>the animal's consent doesn't matter

Wow.


 No.104989

>>104988

It didn't matter to Owen


 No.104990

>>104984

Hi Kero, how you doing?


 No.104991

>>104987

Now this is more like it.


 No.104992

>>104989

as if TW had pleb "ethics"


 No.104993

>TARDIS Eruditorum will return on December 31st.


 No.104994

Niggas not ya mans they gon rat to avoid the jam 💯


 No.104995

>>104993

🖕🖕🖕 don't return 🖕🖕🖕


 No.104996

>>104995

Good advice, you should take it.


 No.104997

File: 68ebf9488420155⋯.jpg (60.94 KB, 600x800, 3:4, 137593505136.jpg)


 No.104998

>>104996

NOBODY talks to me like that not even my close friends. BLOCKED.


 No.104999

doctor who


 No.105000

>>104999

inane show


 No.105001

Do rats die with honour?


 No.105002

>>105001

>honour

is a concept


 No.105003

File: 871e644d07aae90⋯.jpg (179 KB, 1296x1064, 162:133, tom.jpg)


 No.105004

>>105003

devilish


 No.105005

>>105003

Are you hyped at all for the Joaquin Pheonix Joker film?


 No.105006

>>105005

Of course, everything about it sounds promising.


 No.105007

File: 8bfe3b9eda1d452⋯.png (419.34 KB, 601x759, 601:759, 2ade85baa2871658c3e566f0a9….png)

>>105006

I agree, it's shaping up to be a nice idea but I don't want to hype myself up for it if it turns out to be a load of hot garbage


 No.105008

>>105007

society is my camera

gamers arise


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 No.105010

File: b88b59ecb0ea485⋯.jpg (60.37 KB, 1000x562, 500:281, sas.jpg)

They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative, hard core, by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us. You're not special, you're not original, you're not the first; this is just another boss fight.


 No.105011

ITS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peOOTd22mi0


 No.105012

>>105010

psy op


 No.105013

File: 79f0eea60e27099⋯.jpg (82.2 KB, 480x719, 480:719, mondas.jpg)

>"series 11 breathes new life into the series after the divisive 12th Doctor"


 No.105014

File: 5b16a8abab404f4⋯.png (1.01 MB, 1024x576, 16:9, rptpfz3k8ao11.png)


 No.105015

i'm Joaquin nilso off LMAO


 No.105016

>>105015

Consensually yeah?


 No.105017

#MakeMoffatApologiseToCapaldi


 No.105018

>>105016

there's no other way


 No.105019

>>105017

Literally should be the other way around


 No.105020

nilso, i want you to know, every sexual thing i wish to do to you - and the list is so so long - i would only do with enthusiastic consent from all parties involved

- morph


 No.105021

>>105020

kinda weird but wholesome. good morph.


 No.105022

WITH-AH MORPH-AH


 No.105023

morph jorph


 No.105024

I miss Edge


 No.105025

I miss putting Nilso on the Edge… of orgasm.


 No.105026

CONSENSUALLY


 No.105027

>>105025

What if Nilso is still a teenager?


 No.105028

>>105027

He has a job and is around way too often to be balancing it with school.


 No.105029

Remember the silent majority. I'm almost certain they've stopped watching.


 No.105030

File: ff54dfee1b4df68⋯.png (396.04 KB, 1080x1920, 9:16, age of consent europe.png)

>>105027

how does this make you feel?


 No.105031

>>105030

based Irish


 No.105032

I swear if we get cryptopedos going on about muh arbitrary age of consent again I will Nilsopost this thread to hell.


 No.105033

>>105027

my birthday was yesterday


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 No.105035

>>105033

HAPPY FOURTEENTH BIRTHDAY


 No.105036

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


 No.105037

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

 No.105038

>>105033

HAPPY 14TH BIRTHDAY


 No.105039

>>105033

How old are you?


 No.105040


 No.105041


 No.105042

File: 2a6b65d14923678⋯.jpg (214.84 KB, 1406x2048, 703:1024, DmP-CGwXsAEyyI7.jpg)

>>105041

YFW Nilso is a Libra

so do I


 No.105043

>>105041

And what is your sexual orientation?


 No.105044

>>105033

happy birthday nilso


 No.105045


 No.105046

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


 No.105047

21 years in the closet marks the perfect time to come out Nilso


 No.105048

Was utterly gutted when Whitaker was announced but my other half has persuaded me to watch it thinking of it not as Dr Who but just as another random programme to at least give it the benefit of the doubt for an episode or two. I kind of reconciled myself to that, as much for family harmony as anything, until I saw my first trailer yesterday. I know this is going to sound weird but I clenched my teeth and my gut, kinda squinted through half closed eyes and the world didn’t cave in …. until ….. I heard her speak. Random I know but that was the absolute killer moment…. that voice just destroyed a 45 year indulgence. Yes I’ll still watch the first one , too curious not to, and I dearly hope I make it to the end but I can see it being a challenge. On a different note, for different reasons, was miffed with Bradley walsch’s casting too…not against male companions or older ones at that but far too recognisable….have always loved it when they’ve been someone obscure I’ve never seen before, so much more believable. Oh well, a week to go… if all else fails I’ll carry on with my marathon watching every episode, animation, recon, audio etc from the beginning. Caves of androzani is up next…. rattle through Colin and sylvester and I can dig in with some good 60s and pertwee in front of the log burner for the winter.

Will be thinking of you all next Sunday. Polly xx


 No.105049

Dear whoever made that 11+13 goggles edit: it's now been liked + reblogged over 500 times on Tumblr. Cheers!

>>105033

Happy birthday Nilso!


 No.105050

>>105048

>Will you be watching series 11?

yea


 No.105051

>>105048

>Will you be watching series 11

ya, but I like to suffer


 No.105052

I will be viewing the 10 standalone Doctor Who stories that will be broadcast over the coming weeks.


 No.105053

File: 506e75c6a1437c6⋯.jpg (74.1 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Thumbs Up Man.jpg)

>>105049

>>105044

>>105038

>>105035

Thanks lads, much appreciated


 No.105054

>>105050

>>105051

its the thread title on planet mondas you dumbarses i'm not asking you anything


 No.105055

>>105053

You forgot to say thanks to me. >>105047 For the advice.


 No.105056

>>105053

Meet me at the pub


 No.105057

File: a9b2035a763178a⋯.jpeg (1.84 MB, 1120x1722, 80:123, silent.jpeg)

>Coming next to Doctor Who Infinity, we bring you Jacqueline Rayner's The Silent Streets of Barry Island, featuring the Eleventh Doctor, Amy Pond, Rory Williams and a new character to Doctor Who canon, Ted (and his cat), voiced by the wonderful British actor, Steffan Rhodri.

>Something sinister lurks in the streets of Barry Island in this 1960s mods/rockers era love story.

>Drawn by Emma Vieceli, colored by Kris Carter and Dylan Teague.

Finally some new canon stories. I hope ur excited.


 No.105058

>>105052

official fan series


 No.105059

>>105057

Sounds cool, I shall play


 No.105060

File: 0a9580fa2d8b858⋯.png (1.14 MB, 625x840, 125:168, Screenshot_2018-10-01 Face….png)

wow


 No.105061

>>105060

I AM THE HORSPIEL STARTS PLAYING


 No.105062

File: 5a23fc3ee1c893e⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 323.44 KB, 927x1277, 927:1277, Roryinfinity.png)

File: f320182eb2514a2⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 398.33 KB, 887x1279, 887:1279, Amyinfinity.png)

File: a03e9affd552051⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 361.18 KB, 919x1279, 919:1279, 11infinity.png)

>>105057

/who/ ready for costume kino?


 No.105063

>>105060

HORSPIEL


 No.105064

I wouldn't want to give [The BBC] the views personally. Vile man hating bast*rds and chancers the lot of them.


 No.105065

>>105062

holy shit that 11


 No.105066

>>105059

>play

"PLAY"


 No.105067

>>105064

Yea. I think I'll watch it


 No.105068

File: 8bfd66a673cdab9⋯.jpeg (796.96 KB, 1120x630, 16:9, holm.jpeg)

>The fifth story in Doctor Who Infinity is underway for release this Autumn and features the Fourth Doctor, Captain Mike Yates, Osgood, and Kate Stewart in a story told in two time periods on the island of Flat Holm in Wales.

>Featuring the voices of Ingrid Oliver, Richard Franklin, and Nick Briggs, written by Mike Collins, drawn by Patrick Goddard, colored by John-Paul Bove.

>>105062

Rory looks fucking great


 No.105069

Is it just me, or does the majority of the new era of the series seem to concentrate on relationships rather than story? I have watched the series since the early 1990s, and I have never been more dismayed at the quality of the writing as I am now. Undoubtedly, the effects are better than they used to be. But, what the classic era had in it's favour was good story telling. Now it is becoming nothing more than a soap opera with a monster thrown in to try and keep the viewers attention. Am I going to continue watching the new series? I really don't know! I would like to see other people's opinions, and what you all think to modern Who.


 No.105070

>>104889

I think he means it's the one programme he watches live on TX, as opposed on VoD.


 No.105071

>>105068

no tom no buy


 No.105072

im a simple man, i see a returning monster, i watch


 No.105073

>>105057

who will voice?


 No.105074

Hi. I would like to thank you for your thoughts. Also very polite of you to welcome me to the forum.

Yes I do believe that the series is becoming politically motivated, and I suppose to an extent even the Classic show had it's moments. But surely, in these bleak times that we live in, series such as Doctor Who should be a form of escapism from reality! Not just an extension of it. I must admit that both eras of the show has brought me immense enjoyment over the years. Unfortunately, Stephen Moffat wanted to turn it into a show that tried to delete it's past. Considering that he was supposed to be a fan of the show, he did a very good job in virtually destroying it. Plot holes galore and a blatant disregard for the timeline of the series. Will it ever be as good as it once were? Personally I don't think so. While we live in an age where everyone seems to be offended by anything and everything, there isn't much hope for tv shows in general. But when I want to watch a programme, I want to be able to relax and enjoy. Not be reminded of the pc brigades influence over everything.Hi. I would like to thank you for your thoughts. Also very polite of you to welcome me to the forum.

Yes I do believe that the series is becoming politically motivated, and I suppose to an extent even the Classic show had it's moments. But surely, in these bleak times that we live in, series such as Doctor Who should be a form of escapism from reality! Not just an extension of it. I must admit that both eras of the show has brought me immense enjoyment over the years. Unfortunately, Stephen Moffat wanted to turn it into a show that tried to delete it's past. Considering that he was supposed to be a fan of the show, he did a very good job in virtually destroying it. Plot holes galore and a blatant disregard for the timeline of the series. Will it ever be as good as it once were? Personally I don't think so. While we live in an age where everyone seems to be offended by anything and everything, there isn't much hope for tv shows in general. But when I want to watch a programme, I want to be able to relax and enjoy. Not be reminded of the pc brigades influence over everything.


 No.105075

bring back the weeping angels maybe they can fight the daleks it could be like a quantum time lock thing and time war 2.0?


 No.105076

>>105073

Steffan Rhodri will do narrating


 No.105077

real talk the daleks havent had a proper story since 2015, lets bring em back!


 No.105078

>>105077

>2015

?????????

more like 2005


 No.105079

>>105078

zoomer meme, TMA/TWF infinitely more valuable dalek story than toothless jubilee rehash


 No.105080

Educate the audience? That's the last thing nuWho wants to do. They can't even do it with the historicals.

Surely Who is the only thing in recent years that insisted that vikings had to be 'Hollywood' vikings, with horned helmets, when Hollywood and others have stopped? I'm pretty sure that in the very same week of the viking episode with the kid from Game of Thrones aired, the Beeb premiered a new adult viking series (The Last KIngdom) without horned helmets. The SAME CHANNEL! If that's not presuming your audience is thick, I don't know what is.

Just the sort of episode to have Newman, Lambert, and Lucarotti spinning in their graves.


 No.105081

After the awful double barrel of 'Love and Monsters' and 'Fear Her' I really wondered if nu Who hadn't plumbed the depths, that is until Steven Moffat took over. Despite a promising start, things went downhill faster than Lizzie Yarnold, which was even more disappointing, as our expectations were almost unfairly raised by his replacement of the erratic RTD. The awful sex change nonsense was the utter nadir, which proved that nothing was sacred and the whole history of the programme could be swept aside at the whim of such sneering, self-aggrandizing twonks, with neither love or respect for the show.

It's dead to the point I now wish it hadn't come back. The show is nothing more than a hollowed out corpse, (ab)using the warm memories a lot of fans once had for it; an act of unforgivable cultural vandalism. How he managed to emasculate Sherlock Holmes at the same time beggars belief. I can't wait for the adaptation of Dracula, where the titular villain is played by, or undermined every week by, a smart-arse, wise-cracking female character.


 No.105082

>>105079

most of the time

the sewer solution feel like a cop out


 No.105083

>>105079

That’s a davros story not a dalek story


 No.105084

>>105081

Excellent post. Glad to see some common sense around these parts.

Anyone who is defending the show at this point is behaving foolishly.

There is no doubt that the show has been taken over by an agenda, worse still a hateful, spiteful agenda, aimed at upsetting long time fans of the show. Here is an article about it I did. https://t.co/CmgNhqs6W1

Moffhack is the worst thing to ever happen to the show along with Chinballs. I want to go back in time to that picture of Moff as a little boy reading the Daleks, rip the book out of his hands, and stick in a book belonging to a franchise I am not a fan of. Even then though I think that would be a little unfair just to condemn a franchise that I don't particularly care much for to his clamy embrace.


 No.105085

>>105082

we learn in ‘The Witch’s Familiar’ that the ultimate terminus of all Dalek life is shit. Yes, I know the stuff in the Dalek city sewers isn’t literally Dalek shit, but it’s still brown gloop in a sewer. If it isn’t actually shit, it’ll do until actual shit comes along. This is what all Daleks become. Shit is entropic in the sense of being matter shuffled into featureless predictability. Time does this. Entropy homogenizes Daleks into diarrhoea. Sentient diarrhoea that just hangs about, seething with rage and bitterness and resentment. And the Doctor motivates this disavowed, expelled, excrementa. He sends some jolts of life back into it. He reanimates the byproducts/revenants of the whole Dalek experiment. The industrial waste of the entire Dalek project becomes zombie crap. He rouses it from its powerless stupor and allows it to make the gothic move, to return, to crawl back up the pipe. And, as a result, the Daleks drown in their own turds. The turds that are also them. The brown stuff oozes and pours out of their casings. The great bed-shitters of the cosmos proceed to shit themselves to death. This is absolutely fucking perfect. It hooks into the particular truth about fascism that it obsesses over hygiene while generating entropy, decay and filth, which then subsumes it. This is legitimately, properly, brilliant. No caveats. Especially since the spectacle of the Daleks’ gothic zombie crap (the return of the excreted) is also laced with a class war subtext. The bottom rises up to attack the top. Oh me, how I loved that bit.


 No.105086

>>105083

t. RTD


 No.105087

Wait a second guys, this >>105084 is Burrunjor. The link goes to his blog. He goes by the username "Joseph" on Planet Mondas. I wonder if Hoodie has an account?


 No.105088

>>105048

weak bait desu


 No.105089

>>105088

newfag


 No.105090

>>105089

how am i a newfag?


 No.105091

>>105090

for not understanding flagposting


 No.105092

File: 50962974182065f⋯.png (295.03 KB, 636x305, 636:305, ClipboardImage.png)


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 No.105094

>>105093

Attack of the Graske obviously


 No.105095

>>105093

honestly a really cool and experimental idea. Can't wait


 No.105096

>>105085

Lot of words, no meaning.

Every organic matter destiny is to decompose, decaying matter and shit are almost the same.


 No.105097

File: 3233685772624df⋯.png (38.49 KB, 914x222, 457:111, lol.PNG)


 No.105098

>>105093

Colin Brake


 No.105099

>>105093

Chibnall Will Remember This


 No.105100

>>105095

If I wanted an adventure I would play a game, Netflix should be passive only


 No.105101

How do you pirate interactive netflix kino? Surely the interactive thing will be restricted to their videoplayer.


 No.105102

>>105101

It is just chained small videos

you would have to download them all and in the end it would say

if you chose A over B, open file 10


 No.105103

>>105101

>someone who has netflix records their tv; streams it in the CWS

>strawpoll in the stream for every choice


 No.105104

DW Chose your own adventure were mostly shit?

amirite?


 No.105105

>>105104

I cant remember what they were like much, but as a kid, I had a weird obsession with seeing every possibility


 No.105106

File: 358472cd3e61642⋯.jpg (91.2 KB, 667x1000, 667:1000, DoSqxDZWkAE7d9F.jpg)

95 what?


 No.105107

>>105106

95 years of RadioTimes.


 No.105108

>>105106

Operating system the CGI was done on


 No.105109

>>105105

doing that you will never know how does it feel if you never knew every possibility


 No.105110

>>105106

the 95th doctor. The morbius doctors, plus the new diverse pre-morbius doctors that Chibnall is adding


 No.105111

>>105107

Imagine, the time Radio Times was about radio


 No.105112

>>104566

Timewyrm: Genesis, the one Dalek-less Peel book that I read, was more or less tolerable. But War of the Daleks is just a huge dumpster fire driven by one man's attempt to rewrite decades of continuity in order to make everything fit his ideas. It's probably the most unintentionally hilarious Doctor Who book I've read, it's so ridiculously convoluted. There's a great blog post about it here: https://davidrestal.blogspot.com/2015/04/war-of-dalek-writers.html

I recommend reading it all, but here are the important bits:

>So, Peel chose to kill off Davros in the pages of the book despite there being not a chance in hell it would ever be followed up in canon, at the express wish of his pal and co-author Terry Nation. He could easily have written "unfortunately Davros then fell into a black hole and hasn't been seen since", sorted out the history section and kept his credibility. But no. Peel hates Davros. And not in a "loveable bastard" like Nimrod or Sherrif Vasey. He flat out despises the character that Nation loves so much and insists on using.

>For example, there is nothing on-screen or from Terry Nation or Douglas Adams to suggest this is the back-story to Destiny of the Daleks, but Peel's bias immediately shines through.

>"The Dalek Prime knew that Davros considered himself superior to the Daleks and would inevitably try to gain control of them again. He must seem to have that opportunity. The Dalek Prime ordered the special construction of a small group of Daleks that would take orders from Davros but be fitted with explosive devices that the Dalek Prime could detonate in case of need. Davros would be given an extremely small army to order about, but the Dalek Prime would retain ultimate control. Their task was to find and restore Davros, and to convince him that he had full control of the Daleks."

>Rather than accept the idea that the Daleks were knackered and desperate, as intended by the writers, Peel comes up with this conspiracy theory to emphasize that the Daleks are awesome and Davros is an easily-fooled sap who is more trouble than he's worth. It's almost an act of denial, feverishly insisting that this must all be an elaborate con because the alternative is too much of a challenge to his worldview.

>The summary of the story emphasizes that Davros is a megalomaniac who never stood a chance against, well, anyone who stood against him and emphasized how he was no match for the Doctor, Romana, the Movellans, the slaves, Earth authorities. I bet that Kaled mutant pissed on Davros' wheelchair as well.

>I don't think anyone reading the book would have been thinking "Hmm, I guess we could bring Davros back by getting him rebuilt from the Dalek Brain Machine…" but Peel is, like the Dalek Prime, not taking any chances. I dare say the working title of the book was No More Davros Ever He's Dead We Will Not Even Mention Him Again. Peel certainly got his wish in literary terms: Davros first appearance in an expanded novel was his last and he's never returned. It was six years before there was another story with Davros, eight years before anyone explored what happened to him post the Hand of Omega.

>It's not like this is the first time Nation and Peel have been at loggerheads. For example, this "Dalek Prime" we've been talking about. Apparently this is the one true ruler of the Daleks throughout their history, but oddly enough the only references to a Dalek Prime are in the novelizations of The Chase, The Dalek Masterplan and The Evil of the Daleks. All written by… John Peel.

>Why?

>The answer's simple. The TV has been quite consistent on this score: the top of the Dalek totem pole, the one to whom the buck stops, is the Emperor of the Daleks. Created in 1964 for The Dalek Book by David Whittaker, later in the TV21 comic strips, and then on TV in Evil of the Daleks. The Emperor is an iconic character that even random hacks like Terrance Dicks, Eric Saward and Ben Aaronovitch instantly think that the top Dalek goes by that name. While it was up in the air as to who would lead the Daleks in The Parting of the Ways, RTD never considered anything less than Emperor could be their title.


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 No.105114

>>105109

I know. I was a weird kid though (I know everyone says they were a weird kid, but actually.)


 No.105115

>>105106

theses. 13's gonna go back in time and btfo the catholic church


 No.105116

>>105112

>And why not? "The Emperor of the Daleks" is a title that immediately intimidates. It instantly conveys an imperial, militaristic society ruled by one above all others. It conjures up images of Japan, of Napoleon, of courts at the heart of enemy territory no one has witnessed and lived to tell the tale. It is impressive - even new viewers watching the Cult of Skaro would understand what was happening when they spoke of their fallen Emperor, or why they would be so outraged when Rose brags about killing him.

>Except… Terry Nation didn't like the idea of the Dalek Empire being ruled by an Emperor for some reason. No idea why, but he preferred the head honcho to be the Supreme Dalek. In Planet of the Daleks he specifically created the bling-clad Supreme Dalek to make it clear to a new generation there wasn't an Emperor Dalek (which Terrance Dicks undermines in the novelization by making it clear the Supreme is just a representative of the Emperor, ala Darth Vader). One of Nation's stranger demands to Eric Saward was that the golden Emperor in Warhead become the Supreme Dalek for Resurrection of the Daleks.

>We can see a pattern forming. All the evidence in televised Doctor Who makes it clear the Daleks obey an emperor but Terry Nation doesn't like that. John Peel's very awkward compromise is to use the Emperor but call him something different: the Dalek Prime. In both TODWATDB and his adaptation of The Evil of the Daleks its made clear that the Dalek Prime, at the end of his career becomes the huge bastard wired into the Dalek City referred to by friend and foe alike as Emperor.

>So, not only is the leader of the Daleks obviously the Emperor Dalek, it's the one that Nation himself hated more than all the others. Is this the act for someone who thought Nation was right about everything.

>Thus, War of the Daleks is a book written with resentment, not love. Much as we joke about fan writers like Gary Russell or Craig Hinton penning whole books as an excuse to show off their continuity ideas, this is a book designed to show off a single scene written ten years ago. John Peel isn't coming up with a new look at established events, or marvelling at the interconnectedness of the canon. It is a primal scream of absolute hatred at a character that showed off everything he despised in Terry Nation's work.

>John Peel was specifically asked to undo Skaro's destruction by Nation, which of course became the core part of the backstory of War of the Daleks. However, one problem is flagged up.

>"The Doctor shook his head. ‘All simply to stop Davros from destroying your home world. I never realised you were so attached to it.’"

>Yes, John Peel doesn't actually have any reason to save Skaro and neither do the Daleks. Indeed, the resources they've put into saving Skaro are surely costing more than if they'd just moved to another solar system and let Davros do his worse. There is clearly a Dalek accountant screaming that this is a stupid waste of the quarterly budget. The only real justification is that War of the Daleks allows The Evil of the Daleks to be the final ever Dalek story. Which is set on Skaro, the same Skaro as the first story.And yes, totally ignores the point of Day of the Daleks that the survivors of the civil war were still causing trouble. Because now that was just the Daleks pro-actively trying to save Skaro anyway.

>So we have a writer being asked to do something entirely pointless by someone whose judgment he clearly does not respect. And - get this - we have the solution to saving Skaro miraculously involving retconning every single Dalek story with Davros in it. John Peel's revenge is not just to kill off Davros, but totally nullify all bar one story he appeared in. They no longer have any relevance or purpose, nothing that occured in them truly mattered and the only Dalek stories that count are the ones from 1975 backwards.

>That retcon, again, is ridiculous. It's ill-thought out and badly-plotted. Let's review it.

>The Daleks invading Earth in, er, The Dalek Invasion of Earth, manage to uncover a perfectly-preserved colour vlog of Rachel Jenson (because 1963 Counter-Measures had portable colour TV cameras for their staff to make badly-explained verbal reports). Exactly why the frankly-loopy Daleks were interested in mankind's history of which Barbara proved they would fail even the easiest round of Are You Smarter Than A Fifth-Grader, is not explained. Anyway, Rachel has conveniently left them a video message that is completely useless for anything else than warning Daleks that Davros will one day nuke Skaro.


 No.105117

Chibnall wasn't the first showrunner influenced by CW capeshit.


 No.105118

>>105115

Having Martin Luther kick MLK's ass

great plot


 No.105119

>>105116

>The Dalek Prime comes up with his awesome plan to both save Skaro and ensure the Daleks are reunited - and one can only imagine the bruises from John Peel's facepalms as he realized he couldn't just have the Daleks dig up Davros and shoot him right away, because he would enjoy writing that so much. No, they dig up Davros and, without waking him up transport him to the planet Antalin which has been terraformed, etc, so it looks exactly like Skaro. The idea is that this will fool everyone that Antalin is Skaro and anyone trying to blow the latter up with Gallifreyan superweapons will aim for the wrong one.

>The Dalek Prime then comes up with a brilliant idea - to create the Movellans and pretend these rasta discobots are kicking their arses, so Davros will not be remotely surprised they've dug them up again and agree to help them. This does involve everyone who's actually WATCHED Destiny of the Daleks to ignore the bit where the Daleks shoot Lan the Movellan (an act that completely undermines the whole plan, especially as they are supposed to be allies) and that upon waking up, Davros immediately assumed he could order the Daleks about despite the fact he had, from his perspective, just been shot by them.

>Given that the Daleks were not, actually, locked in a perpetual stalemate with the Movellans we have to wonder why they waited ninety years to rescue Davros when they needed him right away. Or why they used unreliable humanoid mercenaries and created a Dalek-killing disease which they then GAVE to Davros, who they didn't trust, rather than simply saying the war was still going and they still needed his help. If anything, this makes the Daleks of Resurrection look even more retarded than they already did.

>The events of Revelation are, significantly, glossed over as it is a story that proves beyond doubt that Davros is capable of using his immense charm, cunning and callousness to independently achieve anything. John Peel hates the concept that Davros is anything other than a gargling lunatic, so has all evidence to the contrary quietly played down by everyone. At the end, the real Daleks capture Davros and this time actually get to phase two of the plan: yes, they create a whole white-gold species of Daleks, brainwash Davros to think he is in charge of them, and then go through the motions of Remembrance of the Daleks. Which does make you wonder why they didn't simply brainwash Davros right away instead of the elaborate ruse.

>Now, all this turns out to be completely pointless as the Doctor programmed the Hand of Omega to wipe out Antalin no matter what Davros asked it to do. So if the Doctor hadn't been so completely fooled by the Movellans, et all that Antalin was Skaro (okay, I buy that, but Romana would surely have noticed they were in the wrong part of space) the plan would be ruined. The Seventh Doctor, you know the smart one, at no point checked that the solar system he was about to vaporize was the same one from the sixties. And even when he was collecting the Master's remains under the full scrutiny of the Time Lords (and Romana) he never noticed he was two star systems to the left of the one he nuked. Now, admittedly, there is a big scene where the Doctor sees the starcharts in the Imperial Dalek scoutship, presumably confirming his suspicions but even so it's a complete fluke the Doctor just happened to stumble across it.

>So, to summarize - the Hand of Omega has been deployed, Skaro is safe and it was Antalin that was vaporized. (It's also worth noting that War of the Daleks reveals that Antalin is a water planet occupied by Daleks AFTER the events of this retcon. It seems further proof that John Peel just didn't give a shit.) The Doctor has not noticed the truth and for the rest of his seventh incarnation he and the Time Lords are convinced the right planet was blown up. What does the Dalek Prime do?

>Kick it back for thirty years.

>Yes, despite the plan having worked perfectly and the only stage left to wipe out the Dalek rebels, the not-the-Emperor-honest just sits there. And this is working on the assumption some wierd timey-wimey stuff shifted Davros two thousand years in the future (there's no evidence it was not left in orbit around Earth in 1963 and indeed Harry Sullivan's War suggests MI5 got to Davros first…)

>Yes, it's ridiculous, inconsistent and almost insanely stupid but the retcon is not about making sense. It's not even about sparing Skaro, it's about making Davros look the way John Peel has always envisioned him: an overrated, useless jerk who ruins every single story he's in! There's not a sentence in the book Davros emerges from looking good - he's deluded, he's stupid, he doesn't even have standards because he'll willingly join the ancient enemy of the Thals. The narrative even has the Doctor say he prefers the Daleks to Davros in a sentence that would only be written prior to 2005:


 No.105120

>The Nilso Prime comes up with his awesome plan to both save Gay and ensure the Nilso are reunited - and one can only imagine the bruises from John Peel's facepalms as he realized he couldn't just have the Nilso dig up Gay and shoot him right away, because he would enjoy writing that so much. No, they dig up Gay and, without waking him up transport him to the planet Gay which has been terraformed, etc, so it looks exactly like Gay. The idea is that this will fool everyone that Gay is Gay and anyone trying to blow the latter up with Gayan superweapons will aim for the wrong one.

>The Nilso Prime then comes up with a brilliant idea - to create the Movellans and pretend these rasta discobots are kicking their arses, so Gay will not be remotely surprised they've dug them up again and agree to help them. This does involve everyone who's actually WATCHED Destiny of the Nilso to ignore the bit where the Nilso shoot Lan the Movellan (an act that completely undermines the whole plan, especially as they are supposed to be allies) and that upon waking up, Gay immediately assumed he could order the Nilso about despite the fact he had, from his perspective, just been shot by them.

>Given that the Nilso were not, actually, locked in a perpetual stalemate with the Movellans we have to wonder why they waited ninety years to rescue Gay when they needed him right away. Or why they used unreliable humanoid mercenaries and created a Nilso-killing disease which they then GAVE to Gay, who they didn't trust, rather than simply saying the war was still going and they still needed his help. If anything, this makes the Nilso of Resurrection look even more retarded than they already did.

>The events of Revelation are, significantly, glossed over as it is a story that proves beyond doubt that Gay is capable of using his immense charm, cunning and callousness to independently achieve anything. John Peel hates the concept that Gay is anything other than a gargling lunatic, so has all evidence to the contrary quietly played down by everyone. At the end, the real Nilso capture Gay and this time actually get to phase two of the plan: yes, they create a whole white-gold species of Nilso, brainwash Gay to think he is in charge of them, and then go through the motions of Remembrance of the Nilso. Which does make you wonder why they didn't simply brainwash Gay right away instead of the elaborate ruse.

>Now, all this turns out to be completely pointless as the Gayprogrammed the Hand of Omega to wipe out Gay no matter what Gay asked it to do. So if the Gayhadn't been so completely fooled by the Movellans, et all that Gay was Gay (okay, I buy that, but Romana would surely have noticed they were in the wrong part of space) the plan would be ruined. The Seventh Doctor, you know the smart one, at no point checked that the solar system he was about to vaporize was the same one from the sixties. And even when he was collecting the Master's remains under the full scrutiny of the Time Lords (and Romana) he never noticed he was two star systems to the left of the one he nuked. Now, admittedly, there is a big scene where the Gaysees the starcharts in the Imperial Nilso scoutship, presumably confirming his suspicions but even so it's a complete fluke the Gayjust happened to stumble across it.

>So, to summarize - the Hand of Omega has been deployed, Gay is safe and it was Gay that was vaporized. (It's also worth noting that War of the Nilso reveals that Gay is a water planet occupied by Nilso AFTER the events of this retcon. It seems further proof that John Peel just didn't give a shit.) The Gayhas not noticed the truth and for the rest of his seventh incarnation he and the Time Lords are convinced the right planet was blown up. What does the Nilso Prime do?

>Kick it back for thirty years.

>Yes, despite the plan having worked perfectly and the only stage left to wipe out the Nilso rebels, the not-the-Emperor-honest just sits there. And this is working on the assumption some wierd timey-wimey stuff shifted Gay two thousand years in the future (there's no evidence it was not left in orbit around Earth in 1963 and indeed Harry Sullivan's War suggests MI5 got to Gay first…)

>Yes, it's ridiculous, inconsistent and almost insanely stupid but the retcon is not about making sense. It's not even about sparing Gay, it's about making Gay look the way John Peel has always envisioned him: an overrated, useless jerk who ruins every single story he's in! There's not a sentence in the book Gay emerges from looking good - he's deluded, he's stupid, he doesn't even have standards because he'll willingly join the ancient enemy of the Thals. The narrative even has the Gaysay he prefers the Nilso to Gay in a sentence that would only be written prior to 2005:


 No.105121

>>105119

(I'm done btw, the sentence was "He’s worse than the Daleks; at least they were created the way they are. Davros has no such excuse." but there was no more room to post it and it wasn't essential)


 No.105122

Has Cats EVER actually discussed Doctor Who?


 No.105123


 No.105124

>>105122

>actually discussing doctor who

>on /who/


 No.105125

>>105122

You and I have had this exact conversation before, do you want me to relink it to answer you again?


 No.105126

Has Neo EVER actually discussed Cats?


 No.105127

Has Nilso EVER actually discussed his sexuality?


 No.105128


 No.105129

>>105128

In depth?


 No.105130

File: 5ebdaeb6c42ebbc⋯.jpg (49.98 KB, 460x454, 230:227, c9dc3796830b0860386444e042….jpg)


 No.105131

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

first s11 trailer with "cinematic" sound with bass and shit


 No.105132

>>105129

He is het and not virgin

that is all we need

what about Cats' sexuality?


 No.105133

>>105131

it says kino

so it is kino


 No.105134

Someone in suicide watch over Ye's magaing on SNL


 No.105135

File: c32239e7d10093c⋯.png (456.08 KB, 640x640, 1:1, 1509476342644.png)

i am paul cornell and this is my song

im a cucked loser whose life has gone wrong


 No.105136

>>105135

he chose to leave to write comics

why would he regret?


 No.105137

>>105132

Actually Judy, I'm interested in a little more than that. I want to know when Nilso first figured out he was het. I want to know ten women he's attracted to. I want to know if he can conclusively rule out being gay, bi, or another non-straight sexuality. I want to know ten men Nilso might go gay for. I want to know which male trip Nilso likes the most. I want to know if Nilso has ever considered buying sex toys. I want to know if he's ever considered buying a video camera. I want to know if he's ever considered using them together.


 No.105138

>>105136

He literally admitted in his newsletter that he handwaved that sort of excuse because he had complicated feelings over the post S3 stories he submitted to NewWho being rejected.


 No.105139

>>105132

>me

>not virgin

You're thinking of someone else.


 No.105140

>>105138

poor soul

but why don't he goes BF


 No.105141

Accidentally selected Planet Mondas instead of Padre Collar. Now my fake Nilsopost is ruined. Pretty sure the real Nilso is a virgin though anyway.


 No.105142

>>105140

why can't you string together a coherent sentence?


 No.105143

never been nothing but virgin


 No.105144

>>105142

autismo


 No.105145

>>105140

He has before, made the great Seasons of Fear with his wife way back in the day, but I can't see him fitting into BF's culture great desu, he's too good and individual. He has more control over comics I assume. It was embarassing enough to Taret novelise TUAT, and Moff literally requested he do that, just fucking off and doing BF would be a bit sad. This isn't just some wilderness writer, it's fucking Paul Cornell, we wouldn't have NewWho as we know it without him. There was a time when he was the leading vision of Doctor Who.


 No.105146


 No.105147

>>105146

>breitbart

screenshot it


 No.105148

First they force out Eccleston for that annoying cunt David Tennant and now they force out Capaldi for a bloody woman. So done with this show.


 No.105149

>>105137

I have toys and Camera


 No.105150

Reminder Moffat's first ever writing for Doctor Who was the uncredited diary sections of Human Nature by Paul Cornell back in the 90s


 No.105151

File: 8b37bfab7c4859b⋯.png (867 KB, 842x1441, 842:1441, Screenshot_2018-10-01 Regu….png)


 No.105152

>RTD wouldn't allow Who to be shot in HD even while Torchwood was

JUST. Just… JUST.


 No.105153

morph makes me want to scream

you choose the emotion


 No.105154

>>105152

HD cameras in 2006 weren't that much of an improvement over SD tbqh


 No.105155

>>105151

good. first we commit mayocide in the media then we work our way up to real life


 No.105156

id like to film the kitty with a HD camera


 No.105157

>>105154

My enjoyment of Cyberwoman begs to differ


 No.105158

>>105156

consensually yeah?


 No.105159

File: d3235e3df734a6d⋯.png (39.25 KB, 250x250, 1:1, 250px-300Skitty.png)


 No.105160

>>105159

all good then


 No.105161

File: c0bb944a7e0a81e⋯.jpg (137.71 KB, 605x707, 605:707, painted-cats-heather-busch….jpg)

Skat


 No.105162

>>105161

all bad then


 No.105163

trips that end in Y are alt right


 No.105164

File: f13cd25fb06301c⋯.jpg (34 KB, 894x894, 1:1, 00e7cf67c138975428186496a6….jpg)

Communihilist


 No.105165


 No.105166

Cats is het, but envies the gay


 No.105167

>>105166

no thats me


 No.105168

Nilso is gay, but envies the het


 No.105169

File: e05118d549dd538⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 40.1 KB, 800x532, 200:133, 800px-TG_(2).jpg)

>>105168

no… That's Gareth!


 No.105170

Jodies a shat girl


 No.105171

Nylsa


 No.105172

>>105171

Good post


 No.105173

File: 803967a87a7621b⋯.jpg (129.13 KB, 1024x765, 1024:765, 6e24aa8fd254f75f6070dcf51b….jpg)

>We're here to fuck shit up


 No.105174

>>105173

what's the fourth one? I dont remember 7 ever wearing a grey outfit


 No.105175

>>105174

some non-canon shit


 No.105176

Nylsso


 No.105177

>>105176

Also a good post


 No.105178

Nazso


 No.105179

Gary Russell being based on twitter and verging Colin


 No.105180


 No.105181


 No.105182

>>105181

is Gary Tory or Labor?


 No.105183

>>105182

Read the comments and you'll find out


 No.105184

>>105183

got it


 No.105185

>>105069

>nothing more than a soap opera with a monster thrown in to try and keep the viewers attention

The Hartnell era had soap operas WITHOUT monsters.


 No.105186

>gary russell still has his failed australian anime show as his twitter header


 No.105187

>>105185

such as


 No.105188

>>105185

Falseflag


 No.105189

>Gary Russell wrote Zagreus


 No.105190

What do I need to Listen to enjoy

"Lucie Miller" / "To the death" fully?


 No.105191

>>105190

Of series 4 you definitely need to hear Death in Blackpool, An Earthly Child, and Relative Dimensions at least. Also some familiarity with Hartnell Who and earlier EDAudios so you understand Lucie and 8's relationship.


 No.105192

>>105191

right

>earlier EDAudios

name a couple


 No.105193

>>105192

Am I addressing the cunt?


 No.105194

>>105193

I beg your pardon


 No.105195


 No.105196

Neo's been watching too many episodes of The Thick of It


 No.105197

I never listened to Sirens of Time, kino?


 No.105198

>>105197

No, it's notoriously terrible


 No.105199

am I adressing the Bidmead kino?


 No.105200

Soundcloud embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>Welcome to what I presume is your first alien planet


 No.105201

>>105190

The full NEDA experience without the filler:

Blood of the Daleks, part 1

Blood of the Daleks, part 2

Horror of Glam Rock

No More Lies

Human Resources, part 1

Human Resources, part 2

Grand Theft Cosmos

The Zygon Who Fell to Earth

Sisters of the Flame (part 1)

The Vengeance of Morbius (part 2)

Orbis

The Eight Truths (part 1)

Worldwide Web (part 2)

Death in Blackpool

An Earthly Child

Situation Vacant

The Book of Kells

Deimos (part 1)

The Resurrection of Mars (part 2)

Relative Dimensions

Lucie Miller (part 1)

To the Death (part 2)


 No.105202

>Don't panic, not the end of the world, well it could be the end of the world, but one thing at a time, I feel glorious, glorious


 No.105203

>>105201

thanks


 No.105204

>>105201

>Horror of Glam Rock

>The Book of Kells

Wasn't those ones a bit filler-ish


 No.105205

File: 9e08f07caed8b0c⋯.jpg (6.24 KB, 225x225, 1:1, sad.jpg)

>applying the concept of filler to Doctor Who


 No.105206

Does anyone know where I can watch Dr. Who (2005) - Season 1 online?


 No.105207

>>105204

Auntie Pat is introduced in Glam Rock


 No.105208

>>105205

There were no fillers on classic who because they all had time to develop

But in nuwho and BF(1 discs) they exist:

Last example: Eaters of Light


 No.105209

>>105206

legally?


 No.105210

>>105209

yes im not a criminal


 No.105211

>>105210

amazon play


 No.105212

>>105204

They aren't all fundamental, but I tried to put in all the episodes that add something to the main arcs.

The ones you mentioned both introduce recurring characters.

>>105205

Okay, I'll rephrase that if I triggered you: "here is a list of everything that is somewhat important to the horizontal story, and most if not all the best episodes conveniently happen to be on this list. You could maybe add Max Warp and a few others depending on taste, but I figured the anon who asked that wasn't really interested since he said he only wants to fully appreciate the finale."

Happy now bitch?


 No.105213

>>105208

The approach that would have you see things as filler contextualises the show as something it isn't, as a serial. There are serial elements but the new planet/situation/monster-every-week and varying writers every episode keep the anthology aspect well maintained. If you are doing a "Missy marathon" or something maybe Eaters of Light is "filler" in that context (although she actually is pivotal at the end of that ep right? I think it's that one), but in the context of a series of Doctor Who, there's no "filler". Contrast TW S1 and S2 (inherently no filler because of procedural nature) to S3 and S4 (serials).

>>105212

VERGED.COM


 No.105214

>>105211

we dont have that in tanzania


 No.105215


 No.105216

File: 2783e1cecdc55c1⋯.jpeg (16.86 KB, 438x336, 73:56, 70155905-4D8D-480C-B84D-7….jpeg)

If we’re lucky series 11 will fail and the show will be cancelled.


 No.105217

>>105213

Eaters of Light without Missy is perfect Filler

(as much as Empress, Smile and Thin Ice)


 No.105218

>>105217

Thin Ice isn't filler, even remotely. It is as essential a formative stage in 12 and Bill's relationship as Beast Below was to 11 and Amy.


 No.105219

desu Smile is so vapid that Thin Ice is more like Bill's first real TARDIS trip.


 No.105220

>>105213

>If you are doing a "Missy marathon" or something maybe Eaters of Light is "filler" in that context (although she actually is pivotal at the end of that ep right? I think it's that one)

You're thinking of Empress of Mars.


 No.105221

>>105217

Why do I bother

>>105220

Oh good shout


 No.105222


 No.105223

Moffat: It speaks emoji


 No.105224

>>105218

you can enjoy the rest without them


 No.105225

If we're lucky Series 11 will be good.


 No.105226

>>105224

You can enjoy near any ep without others, that's precisely why filler is a useless concept in an anthology/proceduralesque show


 No.105227

If we're lucky Series 11 will be good alright.


 No.105228

wE DeSeRvE A ReGeNeRaTiOn ePiSoDe tHaT AcTuAlLy fEeLs lIkE WaTcHiNg sOmEoNe dIe.

>TfW No rEgEnErAtIoN StOrY WhErE ThE DoCtOr sPeNdS A LoT Of iT BeDrIdDeN, sLoWlY DyInG, tHeIr sKiN DrYiNg uP AnD CrAcKiNg, BlOoD SeEpInG FrOm tHeIr eYeS, tHeIr hAiR FaLlInG OuT As tHeY ShRiVeL Up, AlL ThE WhIlE WiTh tHeIr cOmPaNiOn sAt bEsIdE ThE BeD HoLdInG ThEiR HaNd iN FeAr aNd sOrRoW ThRoUgH EaCh sUdDeN SpAsM Of uNeNdUrAbLe aGoNy, UnTiL FiNaLlY ThE DoCtOr iS No mOrE ThAn a lIfElEsS HuSk rEmInIsCeNt oF ThE WaTcHeR - LiKe a cOcOoN


 No.105229

>>105221

you can shove a 5 minute lore in all episodes (as missy inside the nethersphere) but it is still fillers

Xfiles and Buffy had perfect fillers

comes to mind that episode that Cordelia got impaled and never was discussed again


 No.105230

>>105226

There isn’t any filler episodes in series 1 and 9


 No.105231

bro that episode of the simpsons was total filler


 No.105232

>>105231

95% of simpsons are status quo and resetable

except:

death of maude


 No.105233

Conflating "filler" with "bad" or "boring" is a silly mistake. Filler can be comfy and fun, and just because it's boring or bad it doesn't automatically make it filler.


 No.105234

I'm starting at Series 11 because everything before it is filler.


 No.105235

>>105230

Boomtown is not a plot-filler but it was made to fill the lack of budget

Long Game is filler if you disconnect the location of the finale


 No.105236

>>105232

95% of doctor who is status quo and resetable

witty alien lands in X setting, whatever shall happen next


 No.105237

Treehouse of Horror = uncanon filler to be skipped


 No.105238

>>105233

>Filler can be comfy and fun, and just because it's boring or bad it doesn't automatically make it filler.

Yes, knock knock


 No.105239

most canon episode is the one where bart works at a burlesque house

first ep I ever saw so it's the most canon


 No.105240

>>105236

70% yes, 95% is too much


 No.105241

>>105233

It's just a silly concept to apply to something like Doctor Who where the MO is nominally adventures of the week and the best stories don't tend to be the arc heavy ones.


 No.105242

>>105241

classic who is 99% filler, like, get to the plot arc already


 No.105243

>>105241

You forget Alien Bodies and Unnatural History


 No.105244

>>105241

> best stories don't tend to be the arc heavy ones.

would you list the nuwho in this category

no 2-parters


 No.105246

>>105242

only 1 parters are filler


 No.105247

Almost nobody would call Midnight filler because the term is negatively loaded, even though it's totally inconsequential and we know it was written just to fill an empty slot.

Filler is something that is both inconsequential in terms of continuity and in terms of impact. If it doesn't do anything remotely original, it's filler.

This is why the concept of filler can exist in shows with little or no continuity. Of course, this adds a more subjective element to the concept.


 No.105248


 No.105250

>>105241

Yeah, I agree. I feel that when people say "X was utter filler" they actually mean to say that they didn't enjoy it that much.

Filler can be a thing, however, and The Walking Dead is a perfect example of this since each season (bar 1 and 2) has had 16 1 hour episodes with about 8 to 10 episodes of content between them. It's utterly unacceptable.




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